Interrogator

Why would you want your husband killed?

Why would you want your husband killed?

If this was a mistake, if they weren't supposed to go kill the person, kidnap the person, the response would be, oh my goodness, what have you done?

If this was a mistake, if they weren't supposed to go kill the person, kidnap the person, the response would be, oh my goodness, what have you done?

I'm not going to f***ing hurt you. I'm going to hurt your f***ing parents right in front of you.

I'm not going to f***ing hurt you. I'm going to hurt your f***ing parents right in front of you.

Did you ever give him a ride to Georgia?

Did you ever give him a ride to Georgia?

No? Do you recall what kind of vehicle you owned?

No? Do you recall what kind of vehicle you owned?

Do you remember what color it was?

Do you remember what color it was?

Joe, we've got to be honest. I am completely honest with you. How did your boots, those same prints, end up at the crime scene? Joe, be truthful.

Joe, we've got to be honest. I am completely honest with you. How did your boots, those same prints, end up at the crime scene? Joe, be truthful.

Das war ein Kind, als wir seine Residenz besucht haben, der viele grafische Schriften hatte.

Das war ein Kind, als wir seine Residenz besucht haben, der viele grafische Schriften hatte.

Und dann haben sie einen ungewohnten Mann im Gefängnis gesetzt.

Und dann haben sie einen ungewohnten Mann im Gefängnis gesetzt.

Ich weiß nicht, was passiert ist. Ich denke, du weißt mehr, als du jetzt sagst. Was denkst du, dass ich es gemacht habe? Nun, alles sieht so aus, Tim.

Ich weiß nicht, was passiert ist. Ich denke, du weißt mehr, als du jetzt sagst. Was denkst du, dass ich es gemacht habe? Nun, alles sieht so aus, Tim.

Hast du nie so eine Frau gesehen? Fühlst du dich traurig vor dieser Frau?

Hast du nie so eine Frau gesehen? Fühlst du dich traurig vor dieser Frau?

Sie ist tot.

Sie ist tot.

Danke Gott, wir haben dich hier.

Danke Gott, wir haben dich hier.

They gave him a lie detector test. Are you the one who stabbed that girl? No.

They gave him a lie detector test. Are you the one who stabbed that girl? No.

Sie denken, ich habe es gemacht. Nun, alles sieht so aus, Tim. Sie ist tot.

Sie denken, ich habe es gemacht. Nun, alles sieht so aus, Tim. Sie ist tot.

Es ist vorbei.

Es ist vorbei.

Wir wissen, dass du es gemacht hast.

Wir wissen, dass du es gemacht hast.

We all know what's going to happen when someone gets with a baby. They get frustrated. Happens to everybody. Yeah. We think in this situation, the other babies are screaming, crying, whatever. You're taking care of them by yourself. You have Bennett in your hands. He starts acting up. And you get mad at him and you throw him on the floor.

We all know what's going to happen when someone gets with a baby. They get frustrated. Happens to everybody. Yeah. We think in this situation, the other babies are screaming, crying, whatever. You're taking care of them by yourself. You have Bennett in your hands. He starts acting up. And you get mad at him and you throw him on the floor.

And you throw him on the floor?

And you throw him on the floor?

Where did his head hit on the floor?

Where did his head hit on the floor?

A lot of people might think I made that call.

A lot of people might think I made that call.

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You've reached the Peggy Hetrick investigation hotline at the Colorado Attorney General's office. Please leave any information you wish to provide.

You did it?

You did it?

What the hell did you do?

What the hell did you do?

Would we bring you in here without some kind of proof?

Would we bring you in here without some kind of proof?

The mystery man who took on that very famous last name is now in police custody. Tell me who you are.

The mystery man who took on that very famous last name is now in police custody. Tell me who you are.

So who do you think stabbed Stephanie? I believe Aaron did.

So who do you think stabbed Stephanie? I believe Aaron did.

I think we have ways of helping this situation. You know what? What? I'm not really sure that locking you up is the answer.

I think we have ways of helping this situation. You know what? What? I'm not really sure that locking you up is the answer.

Tell us the story. But I'll lie. I'll have to make it up. Tell us the story.

Tell us the story. But I'll lie. I'll have to make it up. Tell us the story.

Can you feel the weight of her body in your arms?

Can you feel the weight of her body in your arms?

The only way it works is the truth.

The only way it works is the truth.

I just wish I wouldn't have done that to me.

I just wish I wouldn't have done that to me.

Just because a person does something bad

Just because a person does something bad

So it's either Shannon or it's your grandma.

So it's either Shannon or it's your grandma.

Who gave you the knife?

Who gave you the knife?

So who do you think stabbed Stephanie? I believe Aaron did.

I think we have ways of helping this situation. You know what? What? I'm not really sure that locking you up is the answer.

Tell us the story. But I'll lie. I'll have to make it up. Tell us the story.

Can you feel the weight of her body in your arms?

The only way it works is the truth.

I just wish I wouldn't have done that to me.

Just because a person does something bad

So it's either Shannon or it's your grandma.

Who gave you the knife?

You've reached the Peggy Hetrick investigation hotline at the Colorado Attorney General's office. Please leave any information you wish to provide.

You did it?

What the hell did you do?

Would we bring you in here without some kind of proof?

Das war ein Kind, als wir seine Residenz besucht haben, der viele grafische Schriften hatte.

Und dann haben sie einen ungewohnten Mann im Gefängnis gesetzt.

Ich weiß nicht, was passiert ist. Ich denke, du weißt mehr, als du jetzt sagst. Was denkst du, dass ich es gemacht habe? Nun, alles sieht so aus, Tim.

Hast du nie so eine Frau gesehen? Fühlst du dich traurig vor dieser Frau?

Sie ist tot.

Danke Gott, wir haben dich hier.

They gave him a lie detector test. Are you the one who stabbed that girl? No.

Sie denken, ich habe es gemacht. Nun, alles sieht so aus, Tim. Sie ist tot.

Es ist vorbei.

Wir wissen, dass du es gemacht hast.

The mystery man who took on that very famous last name is now in police custody. Tell me who you are.

We all know what's going to happen when someone gets with a baby. They get frustrated. Happens to everybody. Yeah. We think in this situation, the other babies are screaming, crying, whatever. You're taking care of them by yourself. You have Bennett in your hands. He starts acting up. And you get mad at him and you throw him on the floor.

And you throw him on the floor?

Where did his head hit on the floor?

A lot of people might think I made that call.

All right, come on.

All right, come on.

Stephen, did you hurt Lauren? No. I know this is hard for you to tell it, but it's weighing on you right now, ain't it, Stephen?

Stephen, did you hurt Lauren? No. I know this is hard for you to tell it, but it's weighing on you right now, ain't it, Stephen?

Did you kill Shantae?

Did you kill Shantae?

When you saw her on Friday, what was she wearing? What was she wearing?

When you saw her on Friday, what was she wearing? What was she wearing?

Why do you think somebody would kill her?

Why do you think somebody would kill her?

Extremely hard. Did you participate in killing Shantae? Shantae, no. Did you kill Shantae? No.

Extremely hard. Did you participate in killing Shantae? Shantae, no. Did you kill Shantae? No.

Was that a red flag?

Was that a red flag?

She says, I'm walking. And that's all she said.

She says, I'm walking. And that's all she said.

You're not being drugged in here, you were divided in here. Right, right. Came here of your own free will.

You're not being drugged in here, you were divided in here. Right, right. Came here of your own free will.

You're free to leave at any time.

You're free to leave at any time.

This is your one shot. Let's put the olive branch out right now and attempt to help you, okay?

This is your one shot. Let's put the olive branch out right now and attempt to help you, okay?

We have evidence that will prove Jonathan Hearn murdered Robert Lamont.

We have evidence that will prove Jonathan Hearn murdered Robert Lamont.

He is going to prison for the rest of his life, okay? If I wasn't clear to you in the beginning, this is your one chance not to join him. Do you understand that? This is your one chance.

He is going to prison for the rest of his life, okay? If I wasn't clear to you in the beginning, this is your one chance not to join him. Do you understand that? This is your one chance.

We don't believe you. We know everything. It is your turn to tell the truth.

We don't believe you. We know everything. It is your turn to tell the truth.

You're not being drugged in here, you were divided in here. Right, right. Came here of your own free will.

You're free to leave at any time.

This is your one shot. Let's put the olive branch out right now and attempt to help you, okay?

We have evidence that will prove Jonathan Hearn murdered Robert Lamont.

He is going to prison for the rest of his life, okay? If I wasn't clear to you in the beginning, this is your one chance not to join him. Do you understand that? This is your one chance.

We don't believe you. We know everything. It is your turn to tell the truth.

Did she confide in you as far as like any problems that she was having with anybody, specifically maybe with Jaina or anybody like that?

Did she confide in you as far as like any problems that she was having with anybody, specifically maybe with Jaina or anybody like that?

Crunch?

Crunch?

And so who else would have been working that day then?

And so who else would have been working that day then?

Brittany was- What did you call it?

Brittany was- What did you call it?

What else have you been holding back that you've been afraid to tell us? Nothing.

What else have you been holding back that you've been afraid to tell us? Nothing.

Um, are you positive that you didn't have like sex with her that Wednesday then?

Um, are you positive that you didn't have like sex with her that Wednesday then?

We understand it like you may have had a relationship with Brittany. Right. Okay. and that it may have been a sexual relationship and that you may have had sex with her a couple of days before this whole thing started, like maybe Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, something like that.

We understand it like you may have had a relationship with Brittany. Right. Okay. and that it may have been a sexual relationship and that you may have had sex with her a couple of days before this whole thing started, like maybe Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, something like that.

Did she confide in you as far as like any problems that she was having with anybody, specifically maybe with Jaina or anybody like that?

Crunch?

And so who else would have been working that day then?

Brittany was- What did you call it?

What else have you been holding back that you've been afraid to tell us? Nothing.

Um, are you positive that you didn't have like sex with her that Wednesday then?

We understand it like you may have had a relationship with Brittany. Right. Okay. and that it may have been a sexual relationship and that you may have had sex with her a couple of days before this whole thing started, like maybe Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, something like that.

You told us things that, unless you were there, you'd have no idea about.

You told us things that, unless you were there, you'd have no idea about.

I don't think they understand what the death penalty means. I'm going to walk out that door and I'm going to do my level best to hang your ass from the highest tree.

I don't think they understand what the death penalty means. I'm going to walk out that door and I'm going to do my level best to hang your ass from the highest tree.

You consider yourself a man? Then stand up.

You consider yourself a man? Then stand up.

No, stand up and be a man, okay?

No, stand up and be a man, okay?

He had something he needed to weigh in on.

He had something he needed to weigh in on.

I've been just making things up to satisfy you guys.

I've been just making things up to satisfy you guys.

The absolute truth is, I was never on the scene. I don't know if Nick is the actual person involved in that. I've been just basically fitting an answer to what you guys said. have been asking.

The absolute truth is, I was never on the scene. I don't know if Nick is the actual person involved in that. I've been just basically fitting an answer to what you guys said. have been asking.

There's absolutely no doubt you are involved with this. And don't start over with me from the very beginning. You're telling me the truth, but now you're going to pull a jerking guys around deal? I mean, I wish I would have said that from the beginning. Yeah, from the beginning, you didn't say that. You had nothing to do with that. You took a polygraph yesterday.

There's absolutely no doubt you are involved with this. And don't start over with me from the very beginning. You're telling me the truth, but now you're going to pull a jerking guys around deal? I mean, I wish I would have said that from the beginning. Yeah, from the beginning, you didn't say that. You had nothing to do with that. You took a polygraph yesterday.

I gave it to you, and you were 100% involved with it. I had no doubt about it. I just told you that. Right. But the truth is, I was never honestly into that. I don't know that Nick is involved in this because we never, I mean, you can check my phone records. We never talked on Thursday or Friday about it.

I gave it to you, and you were 100% involved with it. I had no doubt about it. I just told you that. Right. But the truth is, I was never honestly into that. I don't know that Nick is involved in this because we never, I mean, you can check my phone records. We never talked on Thursday or Friday about it.

And the only reason I picked him, I heard through the grapevine that his brother's car was used. What are you telling me this now, or what do you think is going to accomplish this now? Nothing. I mean, I'm just trying to complain, I mean, you know. I don't believe you. You put yourself there. You were there. And you have told us things. But you told us things that nobody else even knows about.

And the only reason I picked him, I heard through the grapevine that his brother's car was used. What are you telling me this now, or what do you think is going to accomplish this now? Nothing. I mean, I'm just trying to complain, I mean, you know. I don't believe you. You put yourself there. You were there. And you have told us things. But you told us things that nobody else even knows about.

You told us things that, unless you were there, you'd have no idea about.

I don't think they understand what the death penalty means. I'm going to walk out that door and I'm going to do my level best to hang your ass from the highest tree.

You consider yourself a man? Then stand up.

No, stand up and be a man, okay?

He had something he needed to weigh in on.

I've been just making things up to satisfy you guys.

The absolute truth is, I was never on the scene. I don't know if Nick is the actual person involved in that. I've been just basically fitting an answer to what you guys said. have been asking.

There's absolutely no doubt you are involved with this. And don't start over with me from the very beginning. You're telling me the truth, but now you're going to pull a jerking guys around deal? I mean, I wish I would have said that from the beginning. Yeah, from the beginning, you didn't say that. You had nothing to do with that. You took a polygraph yesterday.

I gave it to you, and you were 100% involved with it. I had no doubt about it. I just told you that. Right. But the truth is, I was never honestly into that. I don't know that Nick is involved in this because we never, I mean, you can check my phone records. We never talked on Thursday or Friday about it.

And the only reason I picked him, I heard through the grapevine that his brother's car was used. What are you telling me this now, or what do you think is going to accomplish this now? Nothing. I mean, I'm just trying to complain, I mean, you know. I don't believe you. You put yourself there. You were there. And you have told us things. But you told us things that nobody else even knows about.

And there are so many emotional roadblocks for you to try to believe that.

And there are so many emotional roadblocks for you to try to believe that.

There are a few hours that you know he was not in that house.

There are a few hours that you know he was not in that house.

I can tell you that because I know that for a fact that he was out of the house, Holly.

I can tell you that because I know that for a fact that he was out of the house, Holly.

And there are so many emotional roadblocks for you to try to believe that.

There are a few hours that you know he was not in that house.

I can tell you that because I know that for a fact that he was out of the house, Holly.

Where did you work at before that? I don't really remember. I know I was on my way to work. But you don't remember where you worked at? No. Okay. Okay.

Where did you work at before that? I don't really remember. I know I was on my way to work. But you don't remember where you worked at? No. Okay. Okay.

Look at it real hard. You remember this case, right? No. You ever seen anything on the news about it? I have no idea what you're talking about. Watch TV at home? Not much. Every May, they do these big stories about what happened here. No. Not that I can recall. Actually, if you go down Hancock, they put up a billboard just recently about this, what happened. Have you noticed that? No, sir.

Look at it real hard. You remember this case, right? No. You ever seen anything on the news about it? I have no idea what you're talking about. Watch TV at home? Not much. Every May, they do these big stories about what happened here. No. Not that I can recall. Actually, if you go down Hancock, they put up a billboard just recently about this, what happened. Have you noticed that? No, sir.

I mean, it just looks like you have a lot inside of you. And I can understand right now that you're probably, you're probably afraid. But eventually everything kind of catches up with you. Things in your past eventually, you know, come to light. I always think that being honest about it just kind of relieves everything that people keep inside of them.

I mean, it just looks like you have a lot inside of you. And I can understand right now that you're probably, you're probably afraid. But eventually everything kind of catches up with you. Things in your past eventually, you know, come to light. I always think that being honest about it just kind of relieves everything that people keep inside of them.

You know, what happened there is just probably not something that somebody meant to do. I really don't know what you're talking about. You've heard enough interrogations to know what's coming next, right? It's always good to cleanse your sins before you go to meet God. Well, I think that's the best thing is to confess sins and go see the man with a clear conscience.

You know, what happened there is just probably not something that somebody meant to do. I really don't know what you're talking about. You've heard enough interrogations to know what's coming next, right? It's always good to cleanse your sins before you go to meet God. Well, I think that's the best thing is to confess sins and go see the man with a clear conscience.

The detectives found themselves face-to-face with either someone who didn't have much memory left or else was very consistent with his lie.

The detectives found themselves face-to-face with either someone who didn't have much memory left or else was very consistent with his lie.

You haven't seen them ever? I don't know who they are. I know you don't know who they are. We're asking you when you saw them.

You haven't seen them ever? I don't know who they are. I know you don't know who they are. We're asking you when you saw them.

A little bit. I can tell you're, I can see it in your eyes.

A little bit. I can tell you're, I can see it in your eyes.

Like I said, once you get this off your chest, you're going to feel like the whole weight of the world is gone from the back of your shoulders.

Like I said, once you get this off your chest, you're going to feel like the whole weight of the world is gone from the back of your shoulders.

Because her mother thinks about this. She's the one that prays every day. She's the one that's going through everything, not you. Her mother, every day, goes through what happened to her daughter. All right. So look at her. I have looked at her.

Because her mother thinks about this. She's the one that prays every day. She's the one that's going through everything, not you. Her mother, every day, goes through what happened to her daughter. All right. So look at her. I have looked at her.

Didn't deserve what happened.

Didn't deserve what happened.

Okay. Okay. Think about what her mother's gone through every single day for the past 25 years.

Okay. Okay. Think about what her mother's gone through every single day for the past 25 years.

Where did you work at before that? I don't really remember. I know I was on my way to work. But you don't remember where you worked at? No. Okay. Okay.

Look at it real hard. You remember this case, right? No. You ever seen anything on the news about it? I have no idea what you're talking about. Watch TV at home? Not much. Every May, they do these big stories about what happened here. No. Not that I can recall. Actually, if you go down Hancock, they put up a billboard just recently about this, what happened. Have you noticed that? No, sir.

I mean, it just looks like you have a lot inside of you. And I can understand right now that you're probably, you're probably afraid. But eventually everything kind of catches up with you. Things in your past eventually, you know, come to light. I always think that being honest about it just kind of relieves everything that people keep inside of them.

You know, what happened there is just probably not something that somebody meant to do. I really don't know what you're talking about. You've heard enough interrogations to know what's coming next, right? It's always good to cleanse your sins before you go to meet God. Well, I think that's the best thing is to confess sins and go see the man with a clear conscience.

The detectives found themselves face-to-face with either someone who didn't have much memory left or else was very consistent with his lie.

You haven't seen them ever? I don't know who they are. I know you don't know who they are. We're asking you when you saw them.

A little bit. I can tell you're, I can see it in your eyes.

Like I said, once you get this off your chest, you're going to feel like the whole weight of the world is gone from the back of your shoulders.

Because her mother thinks about this. She's the one that prays every day. She's the one that's going through everything, not you. Her mother, every day, goes through what happened to her daughter. All right. So look at her. I have looked at her.

Didn't deserve what happened.

Okay. Okay. Think about what her mother's gone through every single day for the past 25 years.

So obviously you're brought in handcuffs, right? Which means you're arrested, so you have the right to your Miranda rights. Are you familiar with those rights at all? Okay, so before I speak to you any further about my investigation, I want to read your Miranda rights and see if you're willing to talk to me. Okay?

So obviously you're brought in handcuffs, right? Which means you're arrested, so you have the right to your Miranda rights. Are you familiar with those rights at all? Okay, so before I speak to you any further about my investigation, I want to read your Miranda rights and see if you're willing to talk to me. Okay?

The reason you're here is in reference to a homicide investigation into Nicole Vannerheiden. Okay? So, is this something that you want to talk to me about?

The reason you're here is in reference to a homicide investigation into Nicole Vannerheiden. Okay? So, is this something that you want to talk to me about?

What's that? You don't want to talk to me about that? So, if I read your Miranda rights, you don't want to talk to me? Because I prefer a lawyer.

What's that? You don't want to talk to me about that? So, if I read your Miranda rights, you don't want to talk to me? Because I prefer a lawyer.

So obviously you're brought in handcuffs, right? Which means you're arrested, so you have the right to your Miranda rights. Are you familiar with those rights at all? Okay, so before I speak to you any further about my investigation, I want to read your Miranda rights and see if you're willing to talk to me. Okay?

The reason you're here is in reference to a homicide investigation into Nicole Vannerheiden. Okay? So, is this something that you want to talk to me about?

What's that? You don't want to talk to me about that? So, if I read your Miranda rights, you don't want to talk to me? Because I prefer a lawyer.