Gordon Ryan
Appearances
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
It's probably almost a 500-pound bench press.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
ADCC 2022, he had, like, another event that he had to do. And, like, ADCC, like, the scheduling wasn't perfect, so he was a little bit late. And I was trying to convince Joe to go out. I'm like, dude, just announce me, and it'll be fine. Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
What happened again in the Bilal fight with Sean? He got beat up. He just got beat up.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Well, he's stuffing that underhook pretty good with that thigh pry. I just would think that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Leanne's making it hard in the clinch. He's putting that hand super deep in the thigh, so Brady's underhook doesn't really have the ability to do anything.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Oh. Brady's got to get him in the clinch and get the underhook and immediately move him around with it. Otherwise, he's not going to make anything happen with it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
No. Yeah, he's 5'10". No. I think he's 5'10". Leon is 6'2".
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
That's a UFC 500. Leon's taller than that. I bet you Sean Brady's. He definitely said 6'2 for Leon. Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Dude, they used to have commercials of like Fords carrying like Chevys. Yeah, it was cool. Like a mountain.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Oh, immediately. Wow, that was dope. That was nice.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
You can suck him back here. You can suck him back and pull him between his knees.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
He should be attacking the neck with his right hand so he can put the second hook in. He needs to control. There you go.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah. Well, I mean I mean five ten to six two is four inches Got the back But even even on the ground our child Leon lens he survives down there he's tough to put away slant so hard shot Leon's doing a good job of stopping him from locking the body triangle. Mm-hmm Here he's got it. He's got it, but now he's got the outside triangle. Now this is going to be an issue.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Leon keeps trying to turn belly down. Sean should just take him belly down and hit him.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah. If these guys could just figure out how to trap hands from the back, they'd be so much more effective.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
He's going to get up. He's going to at least get up the turtle. Maybe not. Well, I mean, that was just Leon's... Leon could have got up easy from there.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah. Because Brady's left knee wasn't controlling Leon's right hip. So he could have... There's nothing stopping him from going belly down from there.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Leon should be inserting a butterfly hook here and looking to off-balance him out of that Kimura.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yep. Like play a dilemma between the Kimura and the pass. That way he can do damage.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
He lost it. But now I gave him the underhook. So now he should go back to a crossface. There he goes. But he gave up the underhook.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Well, it's actually worse now because now Leon's actually carrying his body weight.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
The first half of the round, he wasn't carrying Sean's body weight. Right. Now this is more exhausting than having your back taken.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
He's going to be a lot more tired going into the third.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Now, with the UFC being involved in grappling, they're not thinking about drug testing anybody, are they? I don't think so. As far as I know, no, because none of the other organizations test.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah, look at this. Drag him down. Nice. He's got to block the elbow if he's going to go behind, though. Yeah, this is the problem. Go for a drag.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
If Brady pushes that knee down, he'll be in three-quarter mount.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Should break him to a hip. Or you should be pulling him down to a hip.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah. Yeah. It takes away the explosive ability to get up.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
So it's like, unless you're going to sign, which is starting to happen now because there's a little bit more money.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
He's behind the elbows. I mean, Khabib would do that. Khabib would just let guys up and carrying body weight the whole time.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
You see how he's carrying. Birdie's doing a pretty good job of keeping his knees off the floor. Keeping the weight on him. Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah, that's it. Yeah, okay. That's it. You know, they're starting to sign people exclusive now because there's a little bit more money. Yeah. But unless you're going to test across, unless every organization is going to test, and it doesn't make sense because then you have guys who are tested in the UFC who are fighting on flow or at one or other events who are fighting guys who are juiced anyway.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
He's flattened him out. Oh, oh, oh. Flatten him again. Keep flattening him.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Leon keeps trying to stand up head first. He should be trying to four-point out of here.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Well, he's doing a good job stopping the takedowns in the clench. Yes. But when he gets shot on.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
So the whole reason to have testing is to have guys who are not on steroids compete against one another.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah, that would work, but the problem is that you need a business model where you can make that amount of money back. Right. Just to pay for testing. Most of the guys that are competing on the undercard, or not even the main event guys, you would actually be losing money testing them regularly.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
When they become the U.S., you never know. That's never going to happen.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
No, I believe that confidence is built in the gym training from doing like if you hit an armbar ten times out of ten times in training You're pretty confident that it's gonna work, but if you don't hit it in training, why would you be confident?
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
And then, like, fixing them, like, you know, coming up, I would be, like, super hot and cold. Like, I would beat a lot of guys, and then I'd have, like, one, like, disastrous match at, like, Purple Belt or something or Brown Belt.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
And then I was, like, you know, and everyone was always, like, your Tom or, you know, friends were, like, how will you beat everyone up in the gym that you can't translate it to the mat? And I was, like, I don't know, man. I just... I feel like eventually I'm going to get like good and then, you know, I'll be good everywhere and no one will be able to beat me in any position.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
And then kind of just like going through the reps in the gym and, you know, got to a point where I was beating everyone from every position.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah, but there definitely is the it factor that you can't really put your finger on. Most guys, even at the highest levels, if you give them the reason to quit, they'll quit. You can be as technically sound as you want.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Even guys who are super good technically, and you see a lot of jiu-jitsu who are super good technically, if they just get pushed hard and they don't have success early on, they either crush a guy in the first five minutes or... Or they lose the match.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah. I think I'm a lot stronger mentally than everyone I compete against. But also, there's a big physical factor because of the fact that when you have a 30-minute match, for example, the most important thing is the work rate. So it doesn't matter how good your cardio is, like how high your VO2 max is, if you're working twice as hard as I am, you're going to get tired faster than I am.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
So because I'm so much more technical, because the gap in skill is so big between me and the next best guy, their work rate is always three, four, five times as high as mine.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
So it doesn't matter how good your cardio is. Like, if I ran a mile, it wouldn't be impressive. But because I'm so much more efficient, the work rate is so much higher for my opponents that they just fatigue a lot faster.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
It's a lot. Everybody always talks about hard work, but the hardest work is mental work. There's a reason why guys on Wall Street make more money than guys who dig ditches, because they work harder. It's not just physical. Everyone has no problem coming in, getting a sweat, going home, being sore, stuff like that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
But if you ask them to sit down and watch an hour's worth of instruction every night from a... like a Gordon Ryan instructional, which is proven to work in competition. Nobody wants to do that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah. Straight up. I have like 40 instructionals, like hundreds of hours worth of instructionals that I do, and I've referenced matches that I hit this exact technique in, in competition at world level. And just no one's picked up on it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
So usually when they do exclusive, I don't know what his contract is, obviously, but usually it's exclusive, but they have cutouts for things like ADCC or like big world championships. Otherwise, it's hard to sign the guys completely exclusive.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
They kind of just grab stuff. They see me do a move, and they kind of just get the basics of it. But no one's really in-depth studied it and been able to perform the moves in competition. It's embarrassing for the sport. That's so crazy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Like everyone's just like, oh, it's just like a big juice head. And I'm just like, okay, guys, this makes my job easier. I'm glad that we all are agreeing on this because it just makes my job so much easier.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah, that's the thing. But like what wins wars is technology and information.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
like the usually the like a country with more technology more access to technology and information is going to be able to win a war it's the same thing for fighting like if you know more most of the time you're going to be able to to win more like i'm beating these guys because i know more than they do everybody's tough everybody's strong. Even the best guys in the world are super inconsistent.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
They'll win two, they'll lose one, they'll win four, they'll lose two. But when you know more than everyone in every given position, it's pretty easy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I can eat a little bit more. I'm eating better meals, but training hard is still tough. Whenever my heart rate gets super high and I start to get tired from a hard session, I still get super nauseous.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
The GPT thing, I got to do that. You talked to me about that the other day. But doctors know more about space or we know more about space than we do the stomach. And my issues in the small intestine, which is like the hardest one to treat because like they can look at your stomach with an endoscopy and they can look at your large intestine with a colonoscopy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
But to like figure out what the fuck's going on in your small intestine is like a completely like they just can't they can't scope it. So it's hard.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Like, for example, if UFC signed Mikey exclusive, then he wanted to do ADCC, but it's on flow. Like a lot of times the guys have cutouts for that, like big world championship tournaments. That makes sense. That's cool. Because it helps everybody. Yeah, it's cool.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Oh, yeah. Antibiotics fucked my life up way more than anything else I've ever done to myself. That's so crazy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Well, so it was like... So if you get staph and you don't treat it, it just spreads and you die. So it was like I got caught in this cycle where it was like I got staph, I took antibiotics, and then I'd be good for two days. Got staph, took antibiotics, got staph, took antibiotics, got staph. So I'd have like three days of training, and then I would just get staph again.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Because once my stomach started to get affected and my immune system wasn't as strong... My body was trying to fix my stomach, and then I would get staffed because my immune system wasn't as strong. So then I'd take antibiotics, and then that would destroy my stomach, make my immune system weaker, and then I'd get staffed again. So I just got caught in this cycle.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
And I'm sitting there like, I'm not a pussy. I'm not going to stop training. So it was just me training the whole time, regardless of what was going on. Like, I would not train when I had the staff, but I wasn't going to, like, take time off and, like, try to deal with my stomach. I was just like, fucking got to compete next month. God damn.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I mean, I've been forced into like two-week fasts. Two weeks? Yeah, like pretty much like not eating hardly anything. I was actually, before I fought Roberto Jimenez, the one time I called the armbar, I was in the hospital like two days before that getting IVs because I just hadn't eaten in like a week and a half, two weeks.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
So obviously then that's not going to cure it. No. And the problem is everything is trial and error. So it's like, oh, try this for eight weeks. Fucking eight weeks is a long time. And you can't do everything at one time because then you don't know. Like you said, I just threw everything at it. I don't know what's actually making me feel good.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
So it's like you have to add one thing and take away one thing at a time. What about your diet? Has anything helped in that regard? I couldn't even eat red meat for a long time. Like everyone was suggesting carnivore, but my stomach just wouldn't digest it. Like fast food screws me up. Steaks sometimes still mess me up. Spicy food I can't do. Like light chicken and rice, eggs.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
But, like, a guy exclusive to flow or to UFC wouldn't be able to compete for, like, flow grappling or one normally.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Well, I mean, there was the first time I came on this show, a ton of people reached out. I finally found that guy who like, first of all, when you go to a normal GI doctor, like the guy in California did test that none of the other GI doctors even know exist. And I'm like, I don't know how that's like.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
If you ask me a question in jujitsu, it's like X, Y, Z. Whereas like you go to one doctor and there's no idea what the other tests were that I got ran on me by another doctor, which is just so insane. So this one guy actually ran tests, and he was like, oh, all these things are wrong with you, and now it's a question of how can we treat them.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
But like most of the doctors I went to, like all the best doctors in the U.S., just did like an endoscopy, like some basic blood work, and they're like, oh, you're fine. I'm like, I'm definitely not fine.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Um, well, it's just a bunch of things, like, I mean, I could sit here and list for five minutes of things that are wrong with me, but, um, it was like, you know, we're going to do a lot of holistic stuff, like over the counter, um, stuff like, um, like binders to like deal with like mold, poison, toxic, uh, like, uh,
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
issues and then a lot of like probiotics anti like prescription antifungals like just a combination of stuff like glue to shield like you just drink it and it like coats the lining of your esophagus in your in your stomach because my big issue is with a small intestine burr the the food and bile back up into the stomach and it just sits there because there's something there's the small intestines are so that's amazing yeah
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah, so it's like you eat food, you get full fast, and the food just sits in your stomach and just like rots in your stomach and doesn't filter down.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Well, right now we're just trying to open up this school. So I've been trying to open up this damn school for like two years up in North Austin. So once I get, we're like right at the tail end of getting that open. So once we get that open and up and running, then I'll jump back in if I'm healthy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I mean, I do follow-ups with the guy. Like, so, for example, it keeps evolving. So, like, they got that fungal issue they think under control. But because the fungal issue in the small intestines now is resolved, or mostly resolved, they think... The lining of the intestines is so inflamed, like a scar basically, that you have mast cells underneath your intestinal wall.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
So they're like garbage bags. So when food or stomach acid leaks through the intestinal wall and hits the mast cells, they shoot histamines back up to try to prevent it from leaking into your bloodstream. So every time I eat food...
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
these my i just get like this like adrenaline like adrenal response because they just shoot histamines back up into my intestine uh under from under my intestinal walls back into my intestines and it just sends my body into like a state of shock so like when it was really bad i would like every time i eat a meal my heart rate would go up to like 150 and just sit there for like 30 minutes and then like your heart rate goes up and your digestive system just stops
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
So it was like it would just send my body into like a full panic attack every time I ate a meal. And I'm like, oh, this is sick. And now it's gotten like a little bit better because it's starting to heal a little bit, but it's still not 100 percent. So it's like one problem just like evolved into another problem.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
And then like because the leaky gut was so bad, like my kidneys were shutting down because I couldn't filter out all the oxygen. That's when I took a leave of absence or retired, whatever you want to call it, after I fought Wagner the one time when we first met. My leaky gut was so bad, my kidneys started to shut down. Jesus. And then my blood pressure was high.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I've been on that for like three years, yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Is that of any effect? A combination of, like, it definitely helps.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Just toss the sink at it. Just do, yeah. A whole bottle. Three times as much.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I'm just hoping Elon makes us cyborgs. Yeah. Get me a new stomach. I'll be ready to go.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah, his contract ended. He was doing some negotiations. But as far as I know, I think he's going back to one. But I'm not 100% sure. It would be great to see him in the UFC.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Who is he fighting? Eight first-round finishes.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah, we did the first camp. I was with him for like a couple weeks. And then Stipe got hurt. And then the second camp, oh. Oh, here we go. Someone got hurt. He dropped him. I didn't see with what, but he definitely dropped him. So, but yeah, the second camp I was with him for like a full like six or seven weeks.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Um, no, I think that, uh, I think Tom would probably be trying to stand up. Um, I don't, and Tom also has pretty good, like fast takedowns, so they can both take one another down.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Um, but, uh, I don't think that Tom is going to be able to like really do anything besides try to get up on John.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I did see him lose He got heel hooked and it was a pretty shitty heel lock that he tapped to so Aspinall. Yeah
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I thought it was undefeated. That was a long time ago.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
It was a long time ago. He's obviously gotten much better, but it was a pretty shitty heel hook.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
If you would have asked me a few weeks ago, I would say have Alex move up, but Alex just lost.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I heard that Alex fought with a broken. Here it is. Here's the heel hook. It's actually a heel knee bar.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
So you see he just scoops the leg from half guard.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
And Tom turns away instead of trying to face him. So he exposes the heel, and it turns into a heel knee bar.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
There's a heel hook, but it's a knee bar, but with the heel hook gripping so he can't turn back into the lock.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
He's got to create an angle. He's got both arms.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
He did beat Craig Jones. In a grappling match.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I believe leg locks were illegal. That's a little sus. But, I mean, still, he's an MMA guy who fights at 170. Well, he's a fucking beast. No, yeah. He's got, like, a turtle shell for a back. No, he's a great grappler, which is why I'm excited to watch this. Yeah, his back is, like, triple thick. John Brady?
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Well, for you guys, it would be called the Honey Hole. But for us, Cross Ashigurami.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah, Inside Sengaku, yeah. That's the best one, you think? One of them. And then what do you think about putting it on the outside and going Z-Lock? That's great too.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
50-50, you can get hit outside Ashigurami, or you guys call it double outside.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
You can get hit. Yeah, that's the worst one. But inside Senkaku, or if you pass leg across, we call it inside Ashigurami, where you have the – that's how I finished Nicky Rod, where you have the legs triangled inside, but the legs pass to the outside, so you have an outside heel hook. That's great, but because everyone's breaking mechanics are – not up to par on outside heel looks.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
It's harder to get catastrophic breaks on outside heel looks. So for MMA, if you have good breaking mechanics, like Paul Horace finished a lot of outside heel looks, but his breaking mechanics were pretty good. The legs inside with the foot outside is best. Otherwise, just keep the foot on the other side and go for the inverted.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
That's Gary heel hooking. On the inside, yeah. But, so yeah, so it's hard for the guy to, the guy can't hit you from here, he can't really throw any punches to your face.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Mm-hmm. The number one determining factor of with with leg locking is and so far as getting hit is In order for the person to actually hit you, they have to come up on top of you and put weight onto you. So the number one determining factor is, can I keep this guy's head? If you're attacking and you're trying to punch the guy, if you can get your head over his head, you can hit with power.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
So any leg-locking position, which doesn't allow your opponent to get head-over-head, is what's going to keep you safe.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Because the guy can come forward into you and get head over head and hit you.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
But anything where you're reaping, which doesn't allow him to come forward into you, because he'll break his own leg if he stacks you, and he can't get head over head is what you should be looking for. But if the guy can get head over head, then he can hit you easy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah, he kind of just bounces around from thing to thing. He'll be like, oh, I want to go over some leg locks. And you'll teach him a move. And he'll be like, so Darce's. I got a question on Darce. And it's just ADHD. But that's how he learns. He just bounces from move to move.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Let's go. That's got to do it. Good John Jones story that nobody knows. Because I was cornering him for that fight, his last fight against Stipe. And we found out that Trump was going to be there. And for probably a solid 15 to 20 minutes, while he was warming up, like 15 to 20 minutes, he's getting ready to go out to fight for the belt.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Probably 20 minutes of that warm-up was him just practicing the mechanics on how to do the Trump dance right now. We looked it up, we YouTubed it, and he was practicing the Trump dance in the locker room getting ready to dance.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
And the best is we were all for it. We're like, no, the hand's got to be a little bit higher, a little bit lower. So we were coaching him through it as he was doing it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
He knew you were ready for the fucking handshake poll. He just came to give me a hug that time.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Well, all the athletes started doing the Trump dance after that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
A lot of football players were already doing it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Anthony Johnson. I don't know how Alex ever made 85.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Alex Pereira. Maybe we fight at 225. How about DDP?
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I haven't seen him in person. I said that to Alex when I was like a jack 230, and he like dwarfed me. And I'm like, how does this guy cut to 85? He's bigger in every matchup he was bigger. He was longer, he was thicker. Like, it was just...
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I had mine fixed when I had my tonsillectomy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
And they had like the stents up there for like a week.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah, I was offered seven figures. Really? To do like Bare Knuckle MMA.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I believe so. It wasn't Masvidal who reached out. It was somebody else.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I think it was maybe through Philly Fresh reached out, and it was somewhere around seven figures.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
To do it. Yeah, I'd watch that. But it was like I was getting ready for ADCC at the time, and I'm just like, no.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
That's a good fight. I saw that poster. It's got to be fake because there's zero chance that deal. It was that lightweight.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
But remember, the weight cuts different. What is it? The weight cuts different.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
It's a legendary lightweight matchup. Yeah, but lightweight's different for them.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
But there's no way you make 65. He could barely make 170 when he was in shape for ADCC.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I posted right there. I'm not going to comment. Deal with making lightweight.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Well, Dylan wasn't even making 170 when he fought in Veltor. 50-50 revenue share. He would fight a catchweight.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
There's zero chance. He's big. When he fought in Bellator, he would fight at catchweight. It was 175.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I'm telling you there's no way Dylan's going to make it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah. I mean, maybe get hurt. I'm not sure. I just saw something that he pulled out. I don't even... This has got a video here. Oh, he got real sick?
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Apparently he was gassed pretty bad in the First World War. Yeah. So he like despised.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Oh, it's real. That's real. I don't know if that's real, but apparently he was gassed pretty bad in the First World War.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Nothing that I've seen so far. Do you follow that page on Instagram? It's called Real News, No Bullshit. Yes. They posted something about it. Oh, yeah? I think it was like 2,000 pages or something, and they posted the key takeaways.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah, yeah. I have a great relationship with them. I think they're trying to put together some kind of tough show now, like an Ultimate Fighter show for grappling, which would be cool because then you can build a star from scratch.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Exactly, yeah. You can get people emotionally involved.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
That's a tight key team. Oh. Is it over? Yeah, we missed it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Key team up against the cage. We're terrible at this.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
That's hilarious. Those 392 Jeeps are sick. Oh, they're great.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Brigham has a lifted one. They are awesome.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
You had the SF90 on order, didn't you? Yeah. Did you get that? That's still coming. No, it hasn't gotten here yet. You should just get the ZR1 instead. The other one's going to my wife. That's fair.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
And if you don't have a Tesla, you don't really know that, like, if you're, like, within 20 feet of the car, it's recording you.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
There was one guy who was rubbing shit. Grab his ass? Grab his ass cheeks and just rub it all over.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
You sure it wasn't like an AI-generated thing?
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
No. Tesla has solar panels. Yeah, they have Tesla solar panels for your roof.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Every man's dream. A one-bedroom house with a 40-car garage.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Did you see the thing? It's crazy, dude. It's crazy. Apparently there's some structures underneath the pyramids they just found. Yeah, we were talking about that the other day.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah, she's getting choked. Well, the hands aren't locked yet. She has a two-on-one on the support arm.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
but it wasn't good that she had her hand underneath the jaw that easily.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I think it was Robert Wadlow was 8 foot 11. He's like on record the tallest.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Would you do it separate from UFC events, or would you do it like one, where you have MMA fights and kickboxing?
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I know. I'm trying to find a good spot. No, right.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
It's right. What is their mechanisms supposed to be in the beginning through space?
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
That has to be still framed somewhere on that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Every day you wake up, it's like, what now?
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
That was kind of the start of them stopping all the crazy shit. Well, it was kind of a lot of people woke up.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah. Once the truckers did that and they started shutting bank accounts down.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Across all of North America, they were like, okay, maybe we should kind of make it easy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
This is a tiring position, though, for Gunner. He's holding his entire body weight off the floor.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah, I watched a video of it the other day. Oh, really? There's a video of Gunner and Thor? Well, I mean, Thor just has, like, he has no grappling experience. Zero. Zero.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
The Mountain from Game of Thrones. The giant dude. He's like 6'9". You know who's competing in Jiu-Jitsu now is that guy Martins. Oh, Martins? Yeah, Martins. He did that one. When I rolled with Thor, he was also there. He wrestled in high school, so he was a little bit more with it. Better base. He's been training Jiu-Jitsu and competed. That's cool. He just won his first tournament. Good for him.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
He's made a handful. Imagine if Brian Shaw started getting into Jiu-Jitsu. I taught him a private. When he came here, that was interesting. What the fuck, dude?
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I made him drill a big den. I was like, I'm not touching either one of you. That's a good way to get hurt.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
He lost four out of five. Yeah. Derrida versus Bowe is going to be interesting.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
If he would have kept stepping inside, he would have done it if he cut a circle a little bit better.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Well, look at Makachev and Oliveira. Like, he clipped him and then, like, immediately passed his guard and finished him.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
He doesn't have his hands locked anymore on the buddy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Grapevine in the legs. He rushed in the back taking the first round, though. He should take his time from here. Yep.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
and at least take his feet off the cage. That's what got him out. You're not supposed to dig your toes in the face.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah, underhook, underhook. Well, the first thing is to circle his feet off the cage.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yes. Because the bridge off the cage gives you immensely. Correct.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
He's got to get his right knee across to Kevin's left hip.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Can he not apply enough pressure in half guard? It's hard from half guard.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
But he's just got to... Why he's not passing the guard here, I'm not sure. It's also hard for him to dismount from here because the cage is in the way. Yeah. He's got even if he does there. It comes them out here. It comes, okay So now he's gonna try to either mount him or slice like neutral, but he's kind of like he's kind of wedged in place by the cage and
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
That was nice by Kevin. That was really nice. That's why you got him out. Gunner should have switched back to a tight waist when Kevin went to roll out. Kevin should break free here. He should break free here and start teeing off on him. Gunnar held on to the arm triangle too long?
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Well, he should have at least set it better for mount. It wasn't set. He should have mounted him. Oh, shit! Kevin's going to come at him hard here. Yeah, he's got to.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I mean, Kevin looked surprised when they announced him.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
How many surgeries have you had? One. Just one? Yeah, my LCL. Yeah, I've been injured a lot, but just one surgery.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
No. Eddie broke my ankles a bunch of times, but that was when I competed against Joao Rocha. I was going for a leg lock entry, and he was like 270, and he jumped towards my head.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Dude, I don't know. He just disappeared one day, and then apparently he was training pretty recently at Henzo's and Unity. But he just stopped training jiu-jitsu forever, got a real job, I think.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
You can, but the guy can high leg over. If you trap the far leg, the secondary leg, then you can get finishes belly down with it, which is why it's a good position.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
But a good guy is always going to limp leg and strip the grip, which is why I believe that probably the best position in terms of not having the guy come forward and crush you or hit you and strong catastrophic breaking mechanics is probably across Hachigurami, your guy's honey hole.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
so that's still the best um double trouble yeah so you feel you feed the one leg across the legs are split so you have an achilles lock here and then you dig for the heel and then you go in okay and lock up it's still the best um but my highest percentage finish um is that position but with the leg fed on the outside for the outside heel hook
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah, no, you get good finishes with Aokis. What's an Aoki?
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
It's not mechanically as strong as a heel hook, though, because when you go for heel hooks, you're physically bridging your hip into the knee.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Whereas with Iokis, the knee is turned out, so you're not bridging into the knee in a way to break it. Yeah. Whereas with an inverted heel hook, for example, you have a good, strong connection. you have a good, strong connection, but when you go to bridge, you see how he's not bridging into the hip. So with a heel hook, you're bridging directly into the hip.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
So it's the full extension of your body into the knee, so the upper leg is pinned through the leg position, and then your gripping position is what's manipulating the foot.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah, I hear a lot of that. This is a great position because, like, with the guy who's attacking, his right leg, usually the guy's trying to peel it off the hip. Yeah. So when you peel it off the hip, that butterfly hook comes in, and then normally you would throw that left leg over, so now you can't step over the, you can't disengage the legs as easy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
And also because the right foot is on the inside position, it makes it harder for the guy in defense, the defensive guy, to push forward into you. It makes it hard for him to come forward. Because the Aoki, you have to push into the lock, put your foot deeper to boot it. But the butterfly hook stops it. The butterfly actually stops you from pushing the foot in deeper.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah, everyone talks about him. I've never trained with him, but apparently he was like... He rips through everybody.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Well, it's difficult because the butterfly hook doesn't allow you to stack. It doesn't allow you to come forward and push your foot deeper.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
He, like, ran up to him after he was already down, like, with a running start.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Two shoulders at 42 are hard things to come back from.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
That takedown feint really got a reaction.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
It was right off the feint, too. Feinted the takedown, went right to the collar. Went right to the tie clinch.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Yeah. Especially if you hear the... Even if you go to sleep. If you hear the claps for 10 seconds.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
It's like, just pass out at that point. It must have been tight.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
I did a lift with Mitchell Hooper and Flex Lewis and Dragon Slayer in Vegas, and I was in a camp for something, one of the strongest I'd ever been, and it was just a complete embarrassment.
The Joe Rogan Experience
Fight Companion - March 22, 2025
Really? At 225? That's so crazy. That's fucking nuts. That's so crazy. My strongest ever, I was like 225. I weighed like 225, and I did 27. That's impressive.