George

And I'm literally in the belly of the beast. Back to a constellation, you begin to get the sense that it is, in fact, a constellation with a lot of individual stars or or stovepipes underneath it. Could you describe that structure, what you learned and how you learned it?

And I'm literally in the belly of the beast. Back to a constellation, you begin to get the sense that it is, in fact, a constellation with a lot of individual stars or or stovepipes underneath it. Could you describe that structure, what you learned and how you learned it?

Describe those. For example, you're telling us that you realize the guys you're working for are lying. Do you start to feel marked because of your interest in this or do you make mistakes that put you in somebody's crosshairs?

Describe those. For example, you're telling us that you realize the guys you're working for are lying. Do you start to feel marked because of your interest in this or do you make mistakes that put you in somebody's crosshairs?

Describe those. For example, you're telling us that you realize the guys you're working for are lying. Do you start to feel marked because of your interest in this or do you make mistakes that put you in somebody's crosshairs?

It's disillusioning, isn't it? That the Congress has made a show of this. Hey, we want the information. We're going to pass this legislation, protect whistleblowers. Come on in, tell us this stuff. And then the channels really don't work.

It's disillusioning, isn't it? That the Congress has made a show of this. Hey, we want the information. We're going to pass this legislation, protect whistleblowers. Come on in, tell us this stuff. And then the channels really don't work.

It's disillusioning, isn't it? That the Congress has made a show of this. Hey, we want the information. We're going to pass this legislation, protect whistleblowers. Come on in, tell us this stuff. And then the channels really don't work.

Right. Did there come a time then when you start meeting, physically meeting with other people who are sort of like whistleblowers or at least making sounds like whistleblowers?

Right. Did there come a time then when you start meeting, physically meeting with other people who are sort of like whistleblowers or at least making sounds like whistleblowers?

Right. Did there come a time then when you start meeting, physically meeting with other people who are sort of like whistleblowers or at least making sounds like whistleblowers?

Yeah, you've got to be thinking, well, look, I'm going to go hear from some other people, see what their experience has been like. Maybe I'm not doing this right, and there's another way to do it.

Yeah, you've got to be thinking, well, look, I'm going to go hear from some other people, see what their experience has been like. Maybe I'm not doing this right, and there's another way to do it.

Yeah, you've got to be thinking, well, look, I'm going to go hear from some other people, see what their experience has been like. Maybe I'm not doing this right, and there's another way to do it.

You got a new job at the State Department. You have in the back of your mind, look, if I decide to take it a step further, this is a good place to do that. Right. What's your job at State Department and did you like it?

You got a new job at the State Department. You have in the back of your mind, look, if I decide to take it a step further, this is a good place to do that. Right. What's your job at State Department and did you like it?

You got a new job at the State Department. You have in the back of your mind, look, if I decide to take it a step further, this is a good place to do that. Right. What's your job at State Department and did you like it?

in the real world, as it were. Was there ever a period where you were thinking, maybe I'm just leaving this UAP stuff behind me? Oh, no. You were hooked. You were done.

in the real world, as it were. Was there ever a period where you were thinking, maybe I'm just leaving this UAP stuff behind me? Oh, no. You were hooked. You were done.

in the real world, as it were. Was there ever a period where you were thinking, maybe I'm just leaving this UAP stuff behind me? Oh, no. You were hooked. You were done.