Franco Ordoñez

It's a new world order, as some say, you know, that does away with all these multinational organizations like the WHO. the Paris Climate Agreement. It does away with working in collaboration with like-minded allies. Instead, as one former diplomat told me, that Trump is clearly now using the tools of his adversaries and looking to kind of build the U.S. sphere of influence much in ways that U.S.

It's a new world order, as some say, you know, that does away with all these multinational organizations like the WHO. the Paris Climate Agreement. It does away with working in collaboration with like-minded allies. Instead, as one former diplomat told me, that Trump is clearly now using the tools of his adversaries and looking to kind of build the U.S. sphere of influence much in ways that U.S.

adversaries are doing, whether it's China or in the case of our conversation today, Russia.

adversaries are doing, whether it's China or in the case of our conversation today, Russia.

adversaries are doing, whether it's China or in the case of our conversation today, Russia.

Yeah, I mean, I think there's no question that we are seeing an absolute shifting of that world order that you're saying. And the U.S. is a huge part of it and is in many ways leading that. Trump has clearly not only with what's going on in Ukraine, but if you look at Greenland and talking about potentially using troops to take over Greenland, talking about taking over the Panama Canal,

Yeah, I mean, I think there's no question that we are seeing an absolute shifting of that world order that you're saying. And the U.S. is a huge part of it and is in many ways leading that. Trump has clearly not only with what's going on in Ukraine, but if you look at Greenland and talking about potentially using troops to take over Greenland, talking about taking over the Panama Canal,

Yeah, I mean, I think there's no question that we are seeing an absolute shifting of that world order that you're saying. And the U.S. is a huge part of it and is in many ways leading that. Trump has clearly not only with what's going on in Ukraine, but if you look at Greenland and talking about potentially using troops to take over Greenland, talking about taking over the Panama Canal,

Even discussing Canada as becoming the 51st state. There is no question that Trump is talking about building the U.S. sphere of influence. He told me that it was about making America bigger, stronger and more protected. And again, it's like these are the tools that adversaries are using in Russia, in China. This is not unlike how China deals with Taiwan, how Russia deals with Ukraine.

Even discussing Canada as becoming the 51st state. There is no question that Trump is talking about building the U.S. sphere of influence. He told me that it was about making America bigger, stronger and more protected. And again, it's like these are the tools that adversaries are using in Russia, in China. This is not unlike how China deals with Taiwan, how Russia deals with Ukraine.

Even discussing Canada as becoming the 51st state. There is no question that Trump is talking about building the U.S. sphere of influence. He told me that it was about making America bigger, stronger and more protected. And again, it's like these are the tools that adversaries are using in Russia, in China. This is not unlike how China deals with Taiwan, how Russia deals with Ukraine.

It is very much looking at these relationships in power centers. Who are the powerful countries and respecting them and dealing with them directly versus the traditional way of working kind of in these multinational organizations and working in collaboration with these allies, which. he's really dismissed.

It is very much looking at these relationships in power centers. Who are the powerful countries and respecting them and dealing with them directly versus the traditional way of working kind of in these multinational organizations and working in collaboration with these allies, which. he's really dismissed.

It is very much looking at these relationships in power centers. Who are the powerful countries and respecting them and dealing with them directly versus the traditional way of working kind of in these multinational organizations and working in collaboration with these allies, which. he's really dismissed.

I mean, I think those boundaries in some ways are already being drawn. And I think you can see what are the boundaries that Trump sees. It's clearly the Western Hemisphere. And, you know, Greenland clearly is part of North America. The Panama Canal obviously is in the Western Hemisphere and even Canada. Now, I question whether Trump really wants to make Canada the 51st state.

I mean, I think those boundaries in some ways are already being drawn. And I think you can see what are the boundaries that Trump sees. It's clearly the Western Hemisphere. And, you know, Greenland clearly is part of North America. The Panama Canal obviously is in the Western Hemisphere and even Canada. Now, I question whether Trump really wants to make Canada the 51st state.

I mean, I think those boundaries in some ways are already being drawn. And I think you can see what are the boundaries that Trump sees. It's clearly the Western Hemisphere. And, you know, Greenland clearly is part of North America. The Panama Canal obviously is in the Western Hemisphere and even Canada. Now, I question whether Trump really wants to make Canada the 51st state.

That's not going to happen. But clearly he wants to put pressure there for U.S. interests.

That's not going to happen. But clearly he wants to put pressure there for U.S. interests.

That's not going to happen. But clearly he wants to put pressure there for U.S. interests.