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you know, global governance that isn't transparent, that doesn't have any accountability, that is profiting a very, very thin, you know, it's like the Turkey's government or, you know, the kind of, you know, where you're both the financial leaders and the government leaders.
you know, global governance that isn't transparent, that doesn't have any accountability, that is profiting a very, very thin, you know, it's like the Turkey's government or, you know, the kind of, you know, where you're both the financial leaders and the government leaders.
And it just, the United States worked so hard for so many decades to create a world order where that was not, you know, we were trying to move beyond that. And it's, you know, The consequences of this could last a really long time if the one nation that just imposed this new value system globally says, okay, we're done with that.
And it just, the United States worked so hard for so many decades to create a world order where that was not, you know, we were trying to move beyond that. And it's, you know, The consequences of this could last a really long time if the one nation that just imposed this new value system globally says, okay, we're done with that.
We don't really agree and we're going to start taking payments and making decisions. So yeah, it's potentially enormously consequential to the whole world order, honestly, unfortunately. Yeah.
We don't really agree and we're going to start taking payments and making decisions. So yeah, it's potentially enormously consequential to the whole world order, honestly, unfortunately. Yeah.
Unless he gets called on it and challenged, particularly by his own party. I was up on Capitol Hill last week. Yeah, good luck with that. I was on the Senate side and I spent my entire day, I spent like 10 hours right where the senators walked out of the chambers. I was focused almost entirely on Republicans. And I ended up speaking to over 25 U.S. senators in the course of a day.
Unless he gets called on it and challenged, particularly by his own party. I was up on Capitol Hill last week. Yeah, good luck with that. I was on the Senate side and I spent my entire day, I spent like 10 hours right where the senators walked out of the chambers. I was focused almost entirely on Republicans. And I ended up speaking to over 25 U.S. senators in the course of a day.
I just spent the whole day there as soon as they were walking out and pestering them. And I only found two. I was asking each one of them about the Trump meme coin.
I just spent the whole day there as soon as they were walking out and pestering them. And I only found two. I was asking each one of them about the Trump meme coin.
And, and is it, you know, that he's selling access to a dinner with, with, for 220 buyers of his meme coin, whoever spends the most money on his meme coin, they can have dinner with him and 25 of them can have a VIP reception and 25 of them will get a white house tour. And, and so, you know, was that, is that acceptable to you?
And, and is it, you know, that he's selling access to a dinner with, with, for 220 buyers of his meme coin, whoever spends the most money on his meme coin, they can have dinner with him and 25 of them can have a VIP reception and 25 of them will get a white house tour. And, and so, you know, was that, is that acceptable to you?
I was asking the U S senators this, and there was only two of them that were willing to, to give any, most of them gave the answer. I don't know enough about it. you know, the Republican, or I don't do walk and talks. I don't do walk and talks, but I will never sit down with you. Right. Yeah. And yeah, so I think that what's the lasting implication of this?
I was asking the U S senators this, and there was only two of them that were willing to, to give any, most of them gave the answer. I don't know enough about it. you know, the Republican, or I don't do walk and talks. I don't do walk and talks, but I will never sit down with you. Right. Yeah. And yeah, so I think that what's the lasting implication of this?
I mean, I think it really is going to depend upon a kind of a, you know, a rejection of this approach. And if that doesn't happen, then maybe it is normalized. But so far, I mean, the Cutter, You know, 747, you're you're hearing resistance from Republicans in the Senate in particular.
I mean, I think it really is going to depend upon a kind of a, you know, a rejection of this approach. And if that doesn't happen, then maybe it is normalized. But so far, I mean, the Cutter, You know, 747, you're you're hearing resistance from Republicans in the Senate in particular.
And if it really does start to go forward, there could be a significant backlash there that each step that seems more outrageous there. There's you know, there there's a certain hints of. of maybe he's gone too far. And so to answer your question, how normalized this becomes, it really depends upon if it becomes normal. And if as an American public, we begin to accept it.
And if it really does start to go forward, there could be a significant backlash there that each step that seems more outrageous there. There's you know, there there's a certain hints of. of maybe he's gone too far. And so to answer your question, how normalized this becomes, it really depends upon if it becomes normal. And if as an American public, we begin to accept it.
And as Susan says, one of the challenges that we face as reporters is that even when we write these stories and we try to make sure that they're understandable, plain language, and that they're distinct, I don't sense that they're resonating as much. I mean, the American public is sort of like, well, there's nothing we can do about it.
And as Susan says, one of the challenges that we face as reporters is that even when we write these stories and we try to make sure that they're understandable, plain language, and that they're distinct, I don't sense that they're resonating as much. I mean, the American public is sort of like, well, there's nothing we can do about it.