Erez Zukerman

that really went with it a keyboard that you could lean up you could tent it against the sides of the laptop we don't show an image like that on the site but it's very possible with a voyager and it's something that people do and you just kind of set both halves of the keyboard each half kind of like so that it's half on the laptop and mostly on the desk.

that really went with it a keyboard that you could lean up you could tent it against the sides of the laptop we don't show an image like that on the site but it's very possible with a voyager and it's something that people do and you just kind of set both halves of the keyboard each half kind of like so that it's half on the laptop and mostly on the desk.

We even have rubberized sides to support that so it doesn't slide on you. These are secrets. These are not things you necessarily see on the website. We don't highlight them. But we did a lot of work for those rubberized sides. The shell is a double-shot shell. The shell of the Voyager is made from a mix of ABS and silicon that we inject very precisely for those legs.

We even have rubberized sides to support that so it doesn't slide on you. These are secrets. These are not things you necessarily see on the website. We don't highlight them. But we did a lot of work for those rubberized sides. The shell is a double-shot shell. The shell of the Voyager is made from a mix of ABS and silicon that we inject very precisely for those legs.

And we had this idea and then these very thin key switches called chalk switches started appearing, made by Kale. And for a long time, I was a little bit on the fence because it is a proprietary part.

And we had this idea and then these very thin key switches called chalk switches started appearing, made by Kale. And for a long time, I was a little bit on the fence because it is a proprietary part.

If you look at the Moonlander and the Ergodox, we use cherry style switches and the patent on those expired, which means they're gonna be around for a long, long time because anybody can make them and many companies do. When the time came to make the Voyager, we really wanted an ultra, ultra thin board, still with like a steel backplate, like something that's very rigid, but very thin.

If you look at the Moonlander and the Ergodox, we use cherry style switches and the patent on those expired, which means they're gonna be around for a long, long time because anybody can make them and many companies do. When the time came to make the Voyager, we really wanted an ultra, ultra thin board, still with like a steel backplate, like something that's very rigid, but very thin.

So we opted for those switches and we opted for an even more minimal layout, like fewer keys. And yeah, and that's where we are today.

So we opted for those switches and we opted for an even more minimal layout, like fewer keys. And yeah, and that's where we are today.

It's a huge issue. And not just that, there's like real costs to picking because it's not like there's nowhere to just try them out. Right. So if you pick one, Yeah, that's something I think a lot about, and we try to be very clear about the differences, and we have those printouts and everything.

It's a huge issue. And not just that, there's like real costs to picking because it's not like there's nowhere to just try them out. Right. So if you pick one, Yeah, that's something I think a lot about, and we try to be very clear about the differences, and we have those printouts and everything.

Most people tend to be happy with their choice, but we do have people who are like, oh, I want to ship this one back and get a different one instead, and they do that. They ship, they get a full refund, and the shipping is on you, unfortunately, which is expensive because you do ship back to Taiwan. So that's expensive.

Most people tend to be happy with their choice, but we do have people who are like, oh, I want to ship this one back and get a different one instead, and they do that. They ship, they get a full refund, and the shipping is on you, unfortunately, which is expensive because you do ship back to Taiwan. So that's expensive.

Or some people resell locally to friends or people like on Facebook Marketplace or whatever. And then they get another one. But again, that's a minority. For the most part, people do tend to be happy with whatever they choose.

Or some people resell locally to friends or people like on Facebook Marketplace or whatever. And then they get another one. But again, that's a minority. For the most part, people do tend to be happy with whatever they choose.

I love it. I got to say, out of all our keyboards, my personal favorite is definitely the Voyager. Again, I'm biased because the Voyager, my little secret there is the Voyager was the first keyboard where I... personally designed the geometry. The location, the position of every key on the Voyager, the exact angle of the thumb cluster, that's me.

I love it. I got to say, out of all our keyboards, my personal favorite is definitely the Voyager. Again, I'm biased because the Voyager, my little secret there is the Voyager was the first keyboard where I... personally designed the geometry. The location, the position of every key on the Voyager, the exact angle of the thumb cluster, that's me.

And that happens to be very, very comfortable for me, for my particular hands, what do you know? Right. So I've been typing on the Voyager since it was just a circuit board. Before it had a shell, when we were just starting out, I got the first functional circuit boards. They had little rubber feet on them. And I just plugged in the circuit board, put keys on it, and that was it.

And that happens to be very, very comfortable for me, for my particular hands, what do you know? Right. So I've been typing on the Voyager since it was just a circuit board. Before it had a shell, when we were just starting out, I got the first functional circuit boards. They had little rubber feet on them. And I just plugged in the circuit board, put keys on it, and that was it.