Dr. Suzette Sutherland

So you were able to glean some statistics here too about the the impact the ergonomics has and people even retiring early because of musculoskeletal issues and what our trainees are telling us even, right? The young ones, we think it's the older ones that are having trouble and they're going to retire anyway.

But my goodness, Dr. Nielsen, you've been on practice longer and with your geo-oncology, probably do a lot of robotics. I noticed in the questions, it was laparoscopy and robotics that was pulled out. That maybe is a question for Dr. North, but why that versus, you know, I do a lot of vaginal surgery. I'm sitting, but I still have back issues, right? And because of the ergonomics.

But my goodness, Dr. Nielsen, you've been on practice longer and with your geo-oncology, probably do a lot of robotics. I noticed in the questions, it was laparoscopy and robotics that was pulled out. That maybe is a question for Dr. North, but why that versus, you know, I do a lot of vaginal surgery. I'm sitting, but I still have back issues, right? And because of the ergonomics.

But my goodness, Dr. Nielsen, you've been on practice longer and with your geo-oncology, probably do a lot of robotics. I noticed in the questions, it was laparoscopy and robotics that was pulled out. That maybe is a question for Dr. North, but why that versus, you know, I do a lot of vaginal surgery. I'm sitting, but I still have back issues, right? And because of the ergonomics.

But anyway, in your practice and what you've seen and with residents, so on and so forth, how big of an issue is it? And what kind of things do you do in your program to try and mitigate them?

But anyway, in your practice and what you've seen and with residents, so on and so forth, how big of an issue is it? And what kind of things do you do in your program to try and mitigate them?

But anyway, in your practice and what you've seen and with residents, so on and so forth, how big of an issue is it? And what kind of things do you do in your program to try and mitigate them?

It is one that's great to have in conversation here with our residents as well and fellows, and they're the ones, I think, to your point, are really leading this, saying, hey, this is my future, and we want to have more formal training around this.

It is one that's great to have in conversation here with our residents as well and fellows, and they're the ones, I think, to your point, are really leading this, saying, hey, this is my future, and we want to have more formal training around this.

It is one that's great to have in conversation here with our residents as well and fellows, and they're the ones, I think, to your point, are really leading this, saying, hey, this is my future, and we want to have more formal training around this.

So they're really squawking at the ACGME to make it part of residency training, make a core curriculum out of this, which is wonderful that they're doing that. But it is really, really important as we look at our workforce shortage here And what are we doing to ourselves, right? We're making it even shorter if we can't get out of bed in the morning because we're too sore, right?

So they're really squawking at the ACGME to make it part of residency training, make a core curriculum out of this, which is wonderful that they're doing that. But it is really, really important as we look at our workforce shortage here And what are we doing to ourselves, right? We're making it even shorter if we can't get out of bed in the morning because we're too sore, right?

So they're really squawking at the ACGME to make it part of residency training, make a core curriculum out of this, which is wonderful that they're doing that. But it is really, really important as we look at our workforce shortage here And what are we doing to ourselves, right? We're making it even shorter if we can't get out of bed in the morning because we're too sore, right?

Yeah, it's such an important thing.

Yeah, it's such an important thing.

Yeah, it's such an important thing.

So my question again for you then is that the questions were specific towards laparoscopic and robotic cases. Do you see that more with those cases? I mean, I've sat at the council too, but I also feel like standing up out over a body is just as taxing.

So my question again for you then is that the questions were specific towards laparoscopic and robotic cases. Do you see that more with those cases? I mean, I've sat at the council too, but I also feel like standing up out over a body is just as taxing.

So my question again for you then is that the questions were specific towards laparoscopic and robotic cases. Do you see that more with those cases? I mean, I've sat at the council too, but I also feel like standing up out over a body is just as taxing.

Well, I think we hit, you know, most of the main take home categories there. Is there anything else we didn't hit that you were really passionate about wanting to discuss today, either one of you?