Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
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Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ja, aber mit softeren Steinen wie Marble ist es kein Problem. Oder sogar mit Onyx ist es möglich. Aber mit Garnet wird es extrem herausfordernd sein. Ich denke, du kannst es immer noch tun, aber es wird extrem herausfordernd sein. Und wie gesagt, Blister und viele Ungewöhnungen. Also, ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass es gegräbt werden musste, und es war ein stationäres Werkzeug.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Es war ein Werkzeug, das auf dem Lase positioniert wurde. Es war ein Werkzeug, das entweder durch ein Rad oder durch einen CNC-Motor operiert wurde. Und weil es so gut befestigt ist, und es bewegt sich unter der Maschinenguidanz, kannst du die Bedeutung und Qualität sehen. Es passt zu der Qualität deiner präzisesten Artefakte. Also ja, wir können es jetzt machen.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Aber das bedeutet, dass jeder, der diese Vase in deiner Kollektion gemacht hat, eine ähnliche Technologie benutzt hat. Wo die Vase dreht und die Werkzeuge festgestellt wurden. Es war kein manuelles Reisen-Tool. Und wir können es deutlich sehen.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ja, okay. Ja, ja. Und das ist, weißt du, das ist Olga of Dovena's Vases. Sie sind nicht mal in diesem Chart. Sie sind so weit weg in Qualität, dass sie nicht diesen bestimmten Zoom auf dem Chart gemacht haben. Aber das war, weißt du, die Start- und Schlussfolgerung, wenn ich...
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ich habe mehr Datenpunkte hinzugefügt, und als ich den Chart weiterentwickelte, sagte ich, ich glaube, ich kann das entfernen.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Das war also diese Part der Update. Ich werde also eine Update zu diesem Blogpost anbieten. Ich werde das Marble Vase hinzufügen. Wir werden sehen, wie es passt. In case you're wondering what that magenta plot is, it's a vase from another collector in Australia who sent me an optical scan of his vase that I included. So maybe I'll add it in the next update so you have a picture.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Die Imprecise-Klasse ist klar handgemacht.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Oder es könnten primitive Maschinen sein. Man kann immer noch ein primitiver Lass machen, wo man etwas mit einem Handel spinnt. Aber weil man keine Beherrung hat, oder keine richtigen Metallpartien, haben sie viel Spiel. Und wenn man es mit der Hand dreht, geht es nach oben und nach unten. Und das ist die Zirkularität, die man bekommt. Man bekommt eine ziemlich dreckige Zirkularität am Ende.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Danke.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Well, the way I use this word, I use it in the sense that we use, it's a metal-based machine with an electric motor or with some kind of motor that has ball bearings also. So we can argue, well, you can use horses or donkeys or water to turn, sure. But you also need bearings. Because if you don't have bearings, you cannot accomplish circularity. Because if you just stick comes through a hole,
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Das Loch ist nicht rund, der Stecker ist nicht perfekt zentriert. Es muss also ein perfektes Metallrad sein, das durch ein perfektes Loch geht. Und natürlich, wenn du keinen Bering hast, dann wird das erodieren nach dem ersten Benutzen und dann wird es spielen und rausgehen. Wenn ich also Maschine sage, dann muss es eine Art Ballbeherrung sein. So metal parts and some kind of power applied.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Although I think power is probably less important unless you're spinning very, very fast. I think bearings are much more important and precisely manufactured parts that combine the machine. Because you cannot make a machine out of crudely made parts. Because then it's not going to be any better than hand tools.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I mean, it's possible. I mean, it's kind of hard for us to... um zu vorstellen, was andere Zivilisationen oder andere Menschen mitgebracht haben. Ich kann Ihnen sagen, dass während der Zweiten Weltkrieg, als die Nazis in den Vereinigten Staaten verloren wurden, also Amerikaner, Briten, Franzosen und Russen, die die Nazitechnologie studierten, waren sie überrascht, wie innovativ
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Nazi-Technologie war, wenn man es mit dem Rest des Weltkrieges vergleicht, weil die Nazis in der Kriegszeit verschlüsselt waren. Es gab keine Kommunikation zwischen Ingenieur- oder wissenschaftlichen oder technischen Ideen, weil jeder Land für sich selbst kämpfte. Nazi-Ingenieur-Gesellschaft Der deutsche Ingenieur dachte, er hat in ein paar ungewöhnlichen Runden angefangen.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Unglaublich, korrekt.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und als die Allies ihre Design angeschaut haben, sagten sie, wow, wir haben das noch nie gedacht. Also sind wir in der gleichen Situation, außer wir sind ein paar tausend Jahre zurückgekehrt. Ich kann gar nicht beginnen, zu spekulieren, was sie hätte benutzt, wenn sie mehr vorangig gewesen wären. Vielleicht haben sie die Behring nicht benutzt.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Vielleicht haben sie in der traditionellen Hinsicht keine Behringer benutzt. Darüber sprechen wir in einem kurzen Moment. Aber klar, sie konnten die Sachen zentrieren. Und klar, sie konnten diese perfekte Rotation garantieren. Denn was mir auf den Kopf schlägt, wenn ich die Scans deiner präzisen Vase schaue, ist, wie gut das Innere auf das Außere zentriert ist.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und das ist unmöglich, ohne irgendwelche Messungsinstrumente. Weil, sagen wir mal, du gehst mit dem Auge. Und du hast bereits diesen Vase gemacht. Und du musst ein Loch drücken, es rausdrücken. Nun, du denkst, ich denke, der Sender ist irgendwo hier. Aber, du weißt, ich denke, der Sender ist irgendwo hier. Das bedeutet, es ist wahrscheinlich, du weißt, 10, 20, 40 Tausendstel von einem Inch.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Selbst wenn du einen perfekten Drill hast, der einen perfekten Stahl drillen kann, musst du ihn positionieren. Und ohne dass du Messinstrumenten hast, um sicherzustellen, dass du diesen Drill positionierst, besser als ein Tausendstel von einem Inch. Und das ist das, was wir auf deiner präzisesten Wiese sehen. In Wahrheit ist es besser als ein Zehntausendstel von einem Inch.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Das ist wie weit über optische Instrumente. Du musst einen Art Interferometer benutzen, um Dinge zu positionieren, weil du in die Länge der Lichtfläche kommst, die interferiert und schmiert, weil die Wälder interferieren. Also mit dem Auge kannst du es nicht machen, selbst mit den Kalibern.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Gute Frage. Und um ganz ehrlich zu sein, bin ich nicht qualifiziert, sie zu beantworten, weil ich kein Maschinist bin.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Wir können es jetzt, das ist sicher. Wenn diese Objekte tatsächlich alt sind, mein Punkt ist, dass man eine ziemlich advanced Technologie haben muss, um es zu machen. Es ist vielleicht anders, und es ist vielleicht möglich, wie du es beschreibst, aber was du beschreibst, ist nicht wie eine Handoperation.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Es ist eine sehr advanced Knowledge. Und ich glaube, der Hauptpunkt, die Archäologen... die Diskussion, die wir haben, nicht mögen, weil sie sagen, wir wissen, wie diese Wesseln gemacht wurden.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ja, und der Grund, warum sie das sagen, ist, weil es viele Depiktionen auf den Wänden von Tempeln und Papyrus und anderen Dokumenten gibt, in denen sie zeigen, dass alte Ägypten die Wesseln ausgemacht haben und sie gemacht haben. Und ehrlich gesagt, sage ich, das ist in Ordnung, wir diskutieren das nicht, weil es ein paar Wessel gibt, die genau das gemacht haben.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Unser Punkt ist also, man kann nicht jedes Wessel, das wir im Museum oder in privaten Kollektionen beobachten, in derselben Weise machen. Und die Analyse, die ich präsentiert habe, zeigt, dass man eine von einer Seite erzählen kann. Selbst einige deiner Vase, wenn ich sie anschaue, sind so gut gemacht, dass man sie mit einem Augenblick und skeptisch,
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I often cannot tell whether it's like handmade or machine made. It's only, you know, the analytical technique where the object is scanned, the slice is analyzed, then it can tell, you know, the gap in quality. Because when the object is, you know, finely polished and smooth and you eyeball on it, it's very hard to tell Ist es konzentriert innerhalb von einem Tausendstel von einem Inch?
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Man kann es nicht sagen. Und das ist genau mein Punkt. Wenn man etwas ausrollt, wird es perfekt zentral und symmetrisch aussehen, aber man wird nie ein Tausendstel von einem Inch in Konzentrizität erreichen, außer durch Lock. Was bedeutet, wenn man 100 Vase macht, wird vielleicht einer so aussehen, aber der Rest wird... All over the place. That's not what we see.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Sehr gut, ja, danke, dass du mich kennengelernt hast. Und du hast recht, ich bringe meinen Germanium-Detektor, welcher ein High-Resolution-Gamma-Spektrometer ist, der mit liquidem Nitrogen gekühlt wird, um einige Spektren aus deinen Vasen zu entdecken. Ich hoffe, dass ich später zu Hause etwas analysieren kann, um zu sehen, ob ich eine erhöhte Radioaktivität sehe.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So, let's speculate a little bit on how this could have been done. I think first I would like to go to another. Yeah, let's go to this one. Yeah, radiological study of ancient Egyptian stone vases. Yeah, that's another part that interests me because I'm a nuclear scientist. So everything nuclear is of interest. So I'll walk you through my thinking.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So we are exploring a theory that these vases or some of the ruins that we find is the legacy of some advanced civilization that existed in times immemorial. So I'm not going to say, you know, these are aliens, Atlanteans. I don't know. It's just some highly, eine sophisticated civilization that existed once upon a time.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, we don't know when. But I think there is plenty of evidence that some of the artifacts that we find, some of these finely made objects, are in fact heirlooms from that civilization that's been appropriated by later civilizations. Egyptians, Sumerians, Mayans, you name it. So my thinking goes like this.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
If a civilization like this existed, surely it was more advanced than us, meaning hardly they relied on chemical energy as their energy source. Denken Sie daran, dass primitive Menschen Feuer entdeckt haben. Das ist ihre Energie-Source. Sie wurden weiterentwickelt und begannen, Steine zu benutzen. Das ist die Energie-Source. Nun ist es der 20. Jahrhundert.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Wir sind weiterentwickelt, wir benutzen chemische Kraft. Gas, Diesel, natürliches Gas. Bis heute ist das unsere primäre Form von Kraft. Aber wir haben gelernt, wie wir Nuklearenergie bestrafen. Wir sind ein wenig besorgt davon. Aber in Bezug auf Kraftdensität, Die nuklearen Materialien haben eine Million Mal mehr Energie pro Masse pro Unit.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Deshalb ist eine Atomwaffe so zerstört, weil man 100 Kilogramm nukleares Material hat, das die Zerstörung von mehreren hunderttausend Tonnen chemischer Materialien äquivalent ist. So my hypothesis is that this prehistoric ancient civilization must have learned how to harness nuclear energy for their everyday needs.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Wie ich an den vier Vesseln bemerkt habe, auf einigen Wesseln, die ich von Ihnen gekauft habe. Aber leider blieb der Detektor ein Transistor und ich konnte es nicht bringen. Aber das gibt uns die Möglichkeit, darüber zu sprechen, weil Sie recht sind. Ich habe einige weitere Artefakte analysiert, sowohl aus Ihrer Kollektion als auch aus nur modernen Technologien, die von Ebay gekauft wurden.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Therefore, some of these artifacts that you have in your collection that we see in your museum were either made using nuclear technology or were some parts in a machinery that might have involved nuclear technology. Und ich sagte, okay, wenn das die Hypothese ist, wie kann ich es testen? Nun, ich habe diesen Tonnen und einem halben Leitgerät. Und ich habe einen Germanium-Detektor.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Also, wenn du nach unten scrollst, siehst du den Detektor. Ja, also das ist eine gute Bildung. Also, dieser silberne Zylinder ist der Germanium-Detektor. Er wird von Liquid-Nitrogen gekühlt. Den der Vase sitzt. Ja. Und ich setzte den Vase drauf und es ist innerhalb dieses Leitgeräts, das mit Kupfer im Inneren verbunden ist. Und ich lasse es dort für 24 Stunden sitzen.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und wenn du nach unten scrollst, zeige ich dir das Ergebnis davon. Ja, und du hast ein Spektrum wie dieses. Also, das ist ein Gamma-Spektrum. Also, was es in Lehmanns Termen ist, ist, dass alles glänzt. Wir glänzen mit Infrarotlicht. Wir können es nicht sehen, aber einige Tiere können. Oder du kannst Infrarot-Goggles tragen und du siehst das Infrarotlicht.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So this is the glow of x-rays and gamma rays. We cannot see them, but germanium detector can. And every peak that you see on this plot corresponds to a particular nuclear isotope that's glowing with that light. So for example, we have thorium and uranium that's commonly found in nature. Every rock has them. Granite has more than others. So by looking at these peaks,
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ich kann sagen, wie viel Sodium, wie viel Uranium es hat und was die Isotope sind.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Eine Isotope ist beispielsweise, nehmen wir Oxygen zum Beispiel. Es gibt drei stabile Oxygen-Isotope. Oxygen-16 und Oxygen-18 und ich denke Oxygen-17, aber ich könnte auch 17 sagen. Zwei sicherlich. Sie finden sich in der Natur. Es gibt nichts Außergewöhnliches über sie, nichts Besonderes über sie.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Jede Atmung, die wir nehmen, enthält für die meiste Zeit 16 Oxygene, mit einer Mischung von 18 Oxygene. Das ist also das gleiche Element, aber eine etwas andere Nuklearmasse.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Wenn wir also in Richtung schwerere Elemente gehen, wird es interessanter, weil ein Isotope stabil sein würde, das bedeutet, dass es nicht in irgendwelchen X- oder Gamma-Energien glänzt, es nicht abdeckt, es bleibt einfach stabil. Während wenn man einen weiteren Neutron dazu nimmt, wird es schwerer und dann wird es instabil, das bedeutet, dass es zerstört.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und als es zerstört, gibt es diese Gamma- oder X-Rechte, damit es glänzt. Also Thorium, Uranium, Isotope, sie glänzen mit diesen verschiedenen Rädern. Und das ist, weißt du, wenn du durch den Flughafen-Sicherheit gehst oder wenn du präsentierst und du diese Detektoren nimmst und du siehst die Piks und du sagst, oh, ich sehe, dass etwas glänzt hier.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Also siehst du den Peak, oh, es sieht aus, als wäre es Uranium. Vielleicht haben wir einen Uranium-Deposit hier. Und das ist das, was Geologen tun. Sie sind wirklich gut am Charakterisieren von Steinen, Mineralien, Rohren, indem sie auf dieses Gamma-Spektrum, X-Rechts-Spektrum schauen. Und sie können sehen, welche Elemente da sind, ob sie radioaktiv sind und so weiter.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und das ist fast alles, was ich tue. Also, was ich in meinem ersten Studium gemacht habe, wenn Sie sich aufschalten würden, dann würde ich es erklären. So I bought some rocks, as ridiculous as it sounds, because the two objects you lent me that time was a diorite vase and a granite vase.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So I wanted to compare, will it be a different spectrum or the same spectrum if I buy a piece of Egyptian granite and a chunk of diorite rock? Und das ist, was ich gemacht habe. Das war mein erster Stab daran. Und ich habe nichts, das ich ausdrücklich sagen würde, gefunden, außer dass deine Objekte ein bisschen mehr radioaktiv waren als die natürlichen Steine, von denen sie kamen.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und ich habe viel mehr Datenpunkte und meine neuen Erfindungen haben mich überrascht. Deshalb bin ich ein bisschen ehrgeizig, zu teilen. Und ich würde sagen, dass die Hauptthese, also es wird ein Update, es wird zwei Teilen geben. Es wird ein Update auf die Meteorologie und ein Update auf die nuklearen Studien.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Aber es war nicht zehnmal oder zwanzigmal, nur ein bisschen. So I did another test. So I borrowed, you know, two more of your, of your vases and I did another one with them. And that's, let's go to that other, other blog post where it says excessive thorium, yes. So if we scroll down, you know, this is when I started noticing stuff. And the way science goes
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ein einziges Messing ist nie genug, um eine Schlussfolgerung zu erzeugen. Als ich zwei deiner Vase für die erste Zeit beschloss, hatte ich vier Messungen. Also eine für jedes Vase und eine für den Granit-Slab und eine für den Direktrock. Und ich benutze das Wort Messung in dem Sinne, Es war wie ein Resultat. Ich glaube, es war Dolarite.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Entschuldigung, Dolarite, ja. Keine Angst. Ja. Also, ein paar Messungen haben sich in das Produzieren dieses einzigen Ergebnis entwickelt, aber es waren wie vier verschiedene Ergebnisse. Also, mit diesem habe ich eigentlich vier mehr. Also habe ich jetzt total acht, weil ich zwei Basalt-Vasen und zwei Basalt-Sammlungen hatte.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und wenn ich das Spektrum von einem Basaltrock überlege, welches hier in rot ist, man kann es kaum sehen, aber es ist dort in rot, versus das Gamma-Spektrum von der Vase V2, welches die Beehive-Vase ist, sehe ich, dass die Beehive-Vase, die von der Precise-Klasse ist, deutlich mehr Peaks hat, die zu Thorium-232-Decay entsprechen.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ja, mehr radioaktiv. Also, was dieser Chart uns sagt, ist, dass die genau gemachte Beehive-formierte Vase, die bei V2 in meinem Studium läuft, ungefähr zwei bis drei Mal, ungefähr zweieinhalb Mal, mehr Thorium-232 als das Basalt. Und ich sage, wo habe ich das vorher gesehen?
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und ich erinnere mich an meine Messung deines Spinners, den ich verglichen habe mit der rektangulären Sammlung des ägyptischen Granats, weil es die gleiche Bildung ist. Der fein gemachte, präzise Maschine, präzise Spinner-Wase hatte etwa zweieinhalb mal mehr Thorium-232 als dieser Schlauch aus Granit. Der gleiche Art. Und ich sage, warte einen Moment, es ist ein Pattern.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Also plötzlich scheint der präzise gemachte Objekt mehr radioaktiv zu sein als der unpräzise. Well, luckily I borrowed an imprecise vase from you also, that was made out of basalt. So if we scroll down, we'll see how that fares.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So the thesis for the metrology is that I think I'm able to tell modern artifacts convincingly apart from some of the precise artifacts from your collection. And I think I know the reason for it also. Und der Grund ist, wie die Technologie genutzt wurde und wie sie genutzt wurde. Und die neuen Datenpunkte habe ich in einem Punkt in diese Richtung erzeugt.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So out here, the red is the same basalt rock samples and blue is the spectrum of this imprecisely, evidently handcrafted vase. They align pretty well and if anything, the natural basalt is more radioactive because we see the red peaks are in einigen Orten größer. Und Blühpikse sind fast nie größer, was bedeutet, dass der Basel mehr radioaktiv ist als die imprächtig geformte Vase.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Deshalb habe ich mich wirklich aufgeregt und habe dich angerufen und gesagt, hey, ich will meinen Detektor von einigen deiner Vases auf den Spektrum bringen, weil ich wollte sehen, ob ich die Wiedergabe dieses Patterns sehen werde. Weil jetzt ist die Hypothese, dass ein präzise geformtes Artefakt mehr Radioaktivität hat als der imprächtig gemachte. But alas, my equipment did not cooperate.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
It blew a field transistor. So it will have to wait till next time. But that's, you know, the hypothesis. Und es scheint, der Pattern scheint sich zu formen. Nun, dieser Analyse ist sehr präliminär. Also, wenn wir über Forschung sprechen, sagt jeder, dass die Forschung peer-reviewed sein muss. Und das ist, was ich tue, indem ich es auf meinem Website poste.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ich eröffne Kommentare und Kritik von meinen Peeren, von Leuten, die es verstehen. Glücklicherweise habe ich Freunde, die Geologie und Radioaktivität verstehen. Ein Freund meinte, dass ich noch ein Stück Software benötigen muss, um die Formanalysen und die Formkompensation zu machen, wenn man so will.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Denn er hat rechtzeitig bemerkt, dass man, wenn man Radioaktivität macht, und das ist genau das, was ich mache, ich zähle Gammas. The counts and the peaks will be affected by the geometry of the object that you are counting. So vase has this specific shape to it, whereas if I compare that to a rock, rock has a totally different shape.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So the software that I need is the one that accounts for the shape difference and is able to crunch through the spectrum and say, okay, well, I know what your shape was and I know how it was positioned with respect to the detector, so it does corrections and modifies the spectrum. So that's the step I need to do in order to say for sure, for sure the peaks are different.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So right now they appear to be different. And I think this is interesting because they appear to be different like on different objects. So the crudely made is consistent with the rock. The finely made is inconsistent with the rock. And because I've done it four times, It still could be chance, right? Sure.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But, you know, the more times you do it, the less chance it becomes if you get, you know, the consistent result. But I really need, you know, to get that software in order to crunch the numbers to remove this objection.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Nein, es wird es nicht mehr radioaktiv machen.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Nein, es wird es nicht mehr radioaktiv machen. Nein, es wird es nicht mehr radioaktiv machen. Nein, es wird es nicht mehr radioaktiv machen. Nein, es wird es nicht mehr radioaktiv machen. Mit diesem radiologischen Studium. Es ist auf dem Weg. Und ich will, dass diese Software korrekt wird, um diese Form- und Mass-Variation aufzunehmen.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und ich will, mit Ihrem Vermögen, die Spektra von mehr von Ihren Objekten zu erfüllen, um mehr Datensatzpunkte zu bekommen. Und dann können wir eine Schlussfolgerung haben. Aber wie ich schon erwähnt habe... Können wir das hier machen und ein paar von ihnen rauswerfen? Ja, das war mein Intent für heute.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und wenn wir meinen Blog auf dem Bildschirm haben könnten, kann ich dich durch die Beleuchtung bringen.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und ich habe sogar gedacht, vielleicht sollte ich auch über Nacht bleiben und in der Morgenzeit weitergehen. Weil ich eine Portable Detektor habe und jetzt habe ich eine Portable Schild, die ich bringen kann. Und ich denke, es wird gut genug sein.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und dann war meine Meinung, wenn wir das machen und die Datenpunkte, die wir erzeugen, den Trend korrigieren, dann wäre es vielleicht wertvoll, vielleicht zwei oder drei Objekte zu verkaufen und einen anderen zu machen. bei meiner Location, wo wir einen größeren Schild haben.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und wir können ihn dort für 24 Stunden bleiben, weil die Art und Weise, wie die Radiation funktioniert, du kriegst einen krispern Spektrum, also wo es kontinuierlich sein sollte. Du siehst, es ist meistens kontinuierlich mit einigen Piks. Also je länger du zählst, desto smoother wird dein Kontinuum und desto krisper wird dein Pik.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und wenn man kleine Veränderungen diskutiert, ist das, was man braucht. Das ist der Grund, warum sie diese Schilder hergestellt haben, die fast alle umweltliche Radiation auszeichnen. Und dann ist der Rest Zeit. Man lässt sich einfach sitzen. Man geht ums Geschäft, kommt einen Tag später zurück, zwei Tage später, und dein Spektrum funktioniert perfekt.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Das ist der Grund, weshalb es besonders hilfreich war, vier von deinen Objekten zu kaufen und sie an meiner Location zu zählen, weil ich da seit vier Tagen sitzen musste. But returning to the kind of whole point of peer review.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yes, this is my website and this is my latest post on the metrology. The title is Quality of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vases is Inconsistent with Modern Machining. So that's kind of the thesis I want to discuss. So if we would scroll down. Ich beginne mit diesem Chart. Wir haben einen Qualitätschart.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So as people who are reading this, you know, someone contacts me and says, oh, you know, this is interesting, but have you heard of this paper by Mr. Fellows, who published a paper that's called Pharaoh's Curse? New Evidence of Unusual Deaths associated with Ancient Egyptian Tombs. And I'm sure Ross will do better justice to this paper than me. But I read it.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And it struck me as extremely exciting. Because the whole idea of this paper is the idea that Ältere Ägypten, sagen wir, war ein Hotbed der Radioaktivität, ist nicht so verrückt, wie es klingt.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Denn wenn man die ältere ägyptische Geschichte lesen kann, und die Beschreibung dieser Schmerzen und Feminen und Krankheiten, kann alles als radiologische Effekte, radiologische Krankheiten bezeichnet werden. Und das ist, weißt du, was er eigentlich tut, was Ross in diesem Papier tut. Und er argumentiert, dass die Mastabas, diese Linie, die große Pyramide.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und das ist eine andere Sache, die mich beeindruckt. Wenn man sich die aeriale Bildung anschaut, sieht man diese große Pyramide und diese feine Reihe von Mastabas daneben. Ich denke, ja, ja, das ist eine gute Bildung. Nur wirklich gut organisiert. Und ich frage mich, was zur Hölle ist das? Ich kann nicht glauben, dass das Gebäude sind. Und ich dachte, dass das Gebäude waren.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Aber er argumentiert, dass sie besser mit der Beschreibung der radioaktiven Waste-Bedienungsanlage aussehen. Ja, und dann geht er weiter, um zu argumentieren, dass eine unvergleichbare Anzahl von Ägyptologen, die von Kanzer und radiation-poisonierenden Krankheiten gestorben sind.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Sie wurden zwar nicht mit radiation-poisonierenden Krankheiten diagnostiziert, aber ihre Krankheiten waren so konsistent. Aber er bemerkt auch korrekt, dass seine Forschung eher anerkannt ist als statistisch, weil es schwer ist, eine rigoröse statistische Analyse zu machen. Aber die Fakten scheinen da zu sein.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Eine unabhängige Anzahl von Ägyptologen sterben von Leukämie oder Kanzer oder anderen radiation poisoning consistenten Krankheiten. Und wenn man sich die Menschen anschaut, die lebten und sterben in Ägypten, dann findet man viele Beweise davon. Ich werde also nicht zu viel auf dieses Papier hinsetzen. Ich war nur froh, dass es sich auch auf diese Idee auswirkt.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Denn ich würde sagen, dass die Hauptthese dieses Papiers ist, dass ein Kritiker kommt und sagt, dass das Bullshit ist, die ältere Ägypten. Wenn die ältere Ägypten Radioaktivität hatten, würden wir davon Beweise sehen. Also präsentiert dieses Papier diese Beweise. So people would be sick, and sure enough they were. And when there were leakages or breakouts, they would experience weird diseases.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And that's why Mastabas are forbidden, because it literally says, do not approach or evil spirits will kill you. And that's exactly what would happen if you approach a radioactive waste burial grounds. The evil spirits, the gamma rays, alpha rays and other radiation will kill you. Also, für mich ist das keine langfristige Idee und ich würde persönlich gerne mehr Beweise dafür suchen.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Zum Beispiel gibt es Beispiele, wissenschaftliche Beispiele in guten PRV-Journalen, die Radon-Messungen in Mastabas genommen haben. Und Radon-Levels da sind 10-20-mal höher als im Hintergrund. Und für diejenigen, die es nicht kennen, Radon ist ein natürlich erzeugendes radioaktives Gas. Also, wenn Uranium zerstört, werden einige Uranium-Nukleare in Radon gewechselt.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und das, weißt du, tendiert sich in Gebäuden zu akkumulieren. Und dann, wenn du zu viel hast, wirst du Kanzer bekommen. Deswegen haben einige Häuser mit Gebäuden tatsächlich Radon-Wände. Also, auf der einen Seite ist es ein natürliches Gas. Auf der anderen Seite Es passiert auch, wenn man radioaktive Wäsche besitzt, dass man mehr davon hat, weil man mehr Uranium hat, das in Radon abdecken wird.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Also, während unserer letzten Episode habe ich Ihnen und unseren Zuhörern erzählt, dass ich eine Technik entwickelt habe, um Steine zu analysieren, die Scans von Steinen in MATLAB. Ich habe also einen Code geschrieben, der das Objekt in Kugeln schneidet. Also muss das Objekt zylindrische oder, weißt du, axisymmetrische Formen.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Wer weiß. Das ist die grundsätzliche Theorie. Es ist ein natürlicher Nuklearreaktor, der ca.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Richtig, ja. Und ich weiß, dass es tiefer ist, aber das ist die... Ja, und um es komplett präzise zu machen, das ist die Idee von Ross, dass die Mastabas für radioaktive Berührung genutzt wurden. Ich habe es einfach mit ihm verstanden. Weil, bevor ich dieses Buch gelesen habe, wusste ich nichts über Mastabas.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und was ich auch sagen möchte, jeder weiß, was ein Cargo-Kult ist. Wenn... Let's say less advanced civilization, emulates. So I think what the Egyptians have done, they've emulated these burials and some of them would actually contain coffins and corpses and mummies and whatnot. But that wasn't their original design. So the original purpose of Mostaba could have as well been burial.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Because a lot of the spots are found in one place. That's what Ross points out. He says that a lot of these stone vessels organized neatly Da ist ein Bild davon, glaube ich. Es war also klar mit der Idee der Versorgung zusammengehalten, anstatt des Geburts.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und er geht weiter, um zu argumentieren, dass das Wesseln mit radioaktiven Kontaminaten waren, die getötet wurden und dann von Djoser wiedergeburten wurden. Also stimme ich dazu. Ich möchte ein bisschen die Gehälter wechseln und darüber sprechen, wie die Ägypten diese nukleare Technologie benutzt haben.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Weil ich denke, sie haben es benutzt, um Steine zu kreieren und Dinge daraus zu fabrikieren, auch für andere Gründe. Aber ich werde mich nur auf die Fabrikierung und Steine kreieren konzentrieren.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ich habe einige weitere Artefakte analysiert, beide aus deiner Kollektion und nur Artefakte moderner Technologien, die von Ebay gekauft wurden. Und ich habe viel mehr Datenpunkte und meine neuen Erfindungen haben mich überrascht. Deshalb bin ich ein bisschen ehrgeizig, zu teilen.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Denn, wieder einmal zurück in die Peer Review, sobald ich diese Ergebnisse publizieren begonnen habe, hat mich jemand anderes geteilt und gesagt, es war Stein, Stein Gerdes hat mich geteilt und gesagt, hast du Shamir gehört? Und ich so, was ist Shamir? Sie schickt mir einen Link und der Link ist, ich glaube, es heißt Jewish Encyclopedia. Und hier ist die lustige Sache.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Auf der einen Seite haben wir religiöse Menschen und nicht-religiöse Menschen. Also, religiöse Menschen glauben an die Bibel und an das Wort Gottes. Das ist die ultimative Wahrheit. Nicht-religiöse Menschen lachen daran und sagen, das ist Fantasie, das ist Mythologie. Und die Geschichte zeigt uns jetzt, dass viel von dem, was die Bibel erzählt hat, ist näher an der Wahrheit als an der Fiktion.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und dann präzisiere ich und entscheide die Qualität, also die Sphericität, die Zirkularität und die Konzentration der Teile und bereite eine Qualitätsmetrik ab. Und früher hatte dieser Chart weniger Einträge, jetzt hat er viel mehr. Und ich habe es auch vorher in logarithmischer Form präsentiert. Und jetzt ist es in linierischer Form.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Voller Ausdruck, ich bin kein religiöser Mensch. Ich praktiziere weder Judaism, Islam oder Christentum, also bin ich ein bisschen unabhängig. Selbst wenn ich mich als Christen betrachte, glaube ich nicht unbedingt, was die Bibel sagt, nur weil ich an das Wort Gottes glaube. Ich bin also ein Wissenschaftler, ich bin skeptisch, aber jeder weiß, dass wenn... Und wir dachten, Troy sei ein Mythos.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Aber dann finden wir die Ruinen. Und je mehr wir in biblische Geschichten schauen, desto mehr haben wir sie in sumerischen Geschichten zusammengefasst. Und wir haben die Beweise von ihnen von klein auf gefunden. Also sind Historiker jetzt mehr Archäologen. open to what scripture or various sources that became Koran or Bible or Talmud, they might have historical facts.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So the hypothesis that I'm entertaining is that people who wrote those stories wrote them truthfully. I think they wrote exactly what they saw and they wrote exactly how they understood it. So the caveat here is they didn't understand everything.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und wir können nicht bemerken, was sie geschrieben haben, weil man weiß, dass manche Dinge schwierig zu übersetzen sind, sie haben mehrere Bedeutungen, sie haben keinen Kontext. Also übersetzen ältere Sprachen in moderne Sprachen hilft nicht. Aber zurück zur Geschichte von Shamir. Im Grunde ist es ein Artefakt.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Es ist ein Artefakt, das in Talmud und anderen jüdischen Schriften und Schriften erwähnt wird. Und die Geschichte geht so, als ob Gott king solomon to build a temple god forbid solomon to use iron tools so solomon says how do you expect me to build this grand temple when i cannot use iron tools or metal tools to build it and god says no problem summon the demons
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und die Dämonen werden dir den Tempel mit Shamir bauen. Was ist also ein Shamir? Das ist eine medievale Beschreibung von Shamir. Aber die Talmud und die Geschichten, die in die Bibel geführt wurden, erzählen uns, dass es eine Steine war. Eine Steine der Größe von Barley. Barley Grains. Und so hat es funktioniert.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ja, vielleicht wie ein Knall auf meinem Pinkel.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Es ist also eine kleine Steine und die Art und Weise, wie sie funktioniert hat, als sie zu einem Stein gebracht wurde... Das ist der Grund, warum das Bild kalt war, weil die Steine den Stein sehen mussten. Wenn die Steine den Stein sehen, würde sie ihn verteilen. Sie würden es öffnen, als würde man ein Buch öffnen. Sie würden es halbieren.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Es war also genügend, um die Steine zu dem Stein zu halten, um ihn zu verteilen. So King Solomon embarked on a quest to find Shamir. And when he found it, you know, he gave it to demons and demons carved rocks using it and they put the temple together. So that's, you know, what Talmud tells us. He didn't build it, you know, humans didn't build it. Demons built it and they built it using Shamir.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Die Grund, warum ich logarithmisch entschieden habe, ist, weil Sie sehen, dass die grünen Bars so klein sind, wie die blauen Bars. Sie sahen besser aus, wenn ich die logarithmische Skala benutze.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
No iron or metal tools were involved. And then what really piques my curiosity is, Sie sagen, Shamir musste in einer Leitmaschine versorgt werden. Ich dachte, warte, was? In einer Leitmaschine? Wo habe ich das vorher gesehen? Wir versorgen alle nukleare Materialien in einer Leitmaschine, weil sonst, weißt du, Radiation.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ja, ich würde nicht sagen, dass es im Old Testament ist. Ich würde sagen, es ist in Talmud.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Es ist wie eine jüdische Schrift. Okay. Und, weißt du, nenn mich nicht auf die richtigen Begriffe, aber, weißt du, wir haben Kollektionen, Christen haben Kollektionen ihrer Schriften in der Bibel und, weißt du, biblische Texte. Also, die Juden haben offensichtlich alle ihre Kollektionen in Talmud und Talmudischen Texten. Okay, verstehe. Also, das sind ihre Ressourcen.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Aber es wurde auf viele Voraussetzungen erwähnt. Und es musste in dieser Lederbox gesteckt werden. Denn jede andere Box würde sich deintegrieren. Sie würde aufhören zu schießen. Es war ein gefährliches Artefakt, das präzise gesteckt werden musste, um die Voraussetzungen vorzunehmen. Und schlussendlich verschwand es. Es verlor seine Potenz. Und wo sehen wir das wieder? In den nuklearen Materialien.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Sie dauern nicht für immer. Anschließend verschwinden sie und verlieren ihre Potenz. So when I learned about Shamir, I was like, oh my god, I gotta read Talmud, because it seems to be there. And I was particularly excited, because it corroborated my own idea on how it would have done, and if it could go to my blog post, I would kind of elaborate. It's the nuclear machining post.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So before I learned about Shamir, there is nuclear machining, yeah. Just go down. Yeah, here it is. Als nuklearer Wissenschaftler dachte ich mir, dass ich die nukleare Wissenschaft in dem Sinne, dass ich jede radioaktiven Isotope in jeder Menge benötigen kann. Und wir können das jetzt machen. Das einzige Kaviar ist, dass wir nicht viel davon machen können.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Aber das ist eine lineare Skala und sie zeigt dir den echten Unterschied in Qualität zwischen den präzisen Wesseln aus Matt Bells Kollektion, die grün gekolert sind, und den unpräzisen Wesseln aus Matt Bells Kollektion, die grün gekolert sind. Also haben wir 10 bis 20 bis 30 bis 50 Die Unterschiede sind etwa 5.000 Prozent in Qualität. Das ist eine große, große Unterschiede.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und wenn wir viel davon machen, kostet es viel Geld. Aber ich habe das herausgefunden. Dann kann ich, sagen wir, ich kann eine Blatt nehmen. Vielleicht Bronze, vielleicht Metall, das ist egal. Jede Art von Blatt wird als Substrat sein. Und das werde ich mit einem radioaktiven Isotope öffnen, der hoch aktiv ist, wie Polonium-210.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Polonium-210 ist also sehr aktiv, das bedeutet, dass es viele Alpha-Partikel emittiert, wie ein Maschinengewehr. Es dekält also schnell und schnell. Und das Schöne daran ist, wenn ich sagen kann, dass es das Schöne daran ist, dass es nicht viele Gamma-Rasen emittiert. Das heißt, es wird dich nicht durch die Ausbeutung töten. Es wird dich nur töten, wenn du es ingestest hast.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Wenn du das in einer genügend Quantität auf einem Blatt hast, dann könnten diese Alpha-Partikel die Oberfläche eines Materials abblähen. Und wir sehen das, und wir verwenden das jetzt tatsächlich in der Mikroelektronik. Wir verwenden Ionbeam, um Wafen, manchmal, nicht immer, aber manchmal. Und das ist eine gemeinsame Verbindung für Elektromikroskope.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Man kann eine Ionbeam-Source bekommen, und man hat eine Sammlung, und man will einen Lager abschneiden. Man benutzt Ionbeam, um das zu tun. Also können wir das jetzt tun, wir machen es einfach anders.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Also, wenn man das genug hatte, sagen wir Polonium oder vielleicht ein anderes Isotop, ich sage nicht, dass es Polonium war, ich sage nur, dass Polonium funktionieren könnte oder vielleicht ein anderes Isotop, es könnte die Oberfläche durch Ablösung ablösen. Also, diese Helium-Nuklei-Alpha-Partikel schlagen die Oberfläche auf und sie nehmen Läufe aus.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
If you have a little bit, it will take a long time. If you have a lot, it will be quick. So when you push on the blade, you're not like carving through the rock by virtue of pressure or friction. The nuclear isotope does it for you, just, you know, a blade. And of course, you know, this is a primitive picture, right? So it probably wasn't done like that.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
You know, there would have to be more control over it. But, you know, it kind of drives the point. But if you scroll down, I'll... Oh, here is another idea, for example. Instead of using... diese Ablösung, die die Verschmutzung betrifft. Wie geht es um die Verschmutzung? Denn es wird darüber gesprochen, dass diese Steine so weich wie Kleber waren, als sie gekleidet wurden.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Denn wenn man sich einige der Marken anschaut, Der einfachste Weg, es zu erklären, ja, der Stein wurde irgendwie gesäubert. Und ich glaube, du hattest jemanden auf deinem Podcast, der einige Früchte aus Bäumen diskutierte, die die Steine sauber machen könnten.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ja, ich glaube nicht, dass es Früchte sind, aber ich glaube, wenn du einen Isotop hast, der Betapartikel emittiert, die Elektronen sind, und du die Steine übersaturierst, was ein Dielektrik ist, mit Elektronen, dann änderst du die physischen Fähigkeiten der Steine. Und das ist keine Spekulation. Wir wissen, dass wenn man irgendein solides Körper hat, sind die Atome zusammengehalten von Elektronen.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Wenn man also mehr Elektronen drückt, hat man innen zu viel Klebe, das diese Matrix zusammenhält. Es könnte es weich machen. Und in Wahrheit gibt es viele Experimente, die gemacht wurden, in denen Menschen beobachten, dass Metalle oder Nonmetalle plötzlich ihre Stabilität verlieren und ohne dass sie erhitzt werden.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Nun, diese sind gut dokumentiert, aber nicht einfach zu reproduzieren, weil diese Bedingungen typisch spontan passieren. Aber ich habe genug Beweise davon gesehen, um zu glauben, dass es ein echter Effekt ist. Und das ist, wie ich denke, wie sie es tatsächlich gemacht haben. Also ich denke, sie haben Isotope genutzt, die nur körperliche Mengen von Elektronen in Stein emittieren.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und Stein wurde im Prozess gesäubert. Und dann, weißt du, wieder einmal, kannst du es schrauben und molden, wie Kleid. Und ich mag diese Idee. Und vielleicht ist das so, wie Shamir wirklich gearbeitet hat. Vielleicht hat er einfach die Steine gesäubert, bis sie ausgeschnitten haben.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und man kann es sehr gut in der linearen Ebene sagen. Auch die roten Barren sind die zwei Artefakte, die manuell von Olga Vdovina hergestellt wurden. Sie fallen klar in die unpräzise Kategorie, die klar mit den unpräzisen Objekten aus Mads Bells Kollektion zusammenhängt. Und die orangenen Barren sind die modernen Artefakte. Wege, die ich von Ebay für 15-20 Dollar gekauft habe.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ich mag diese Idee, weil eine der Gründe, warum ich ein paar deiner Vase auf und ab gekauft habe, ist, dass ich sie durch meinen Elektromikroskop schauen wollte. Und es hat einen langen Zeitraum gedauert, um den Mikroskop operativ zu machen, aber als es war, wollte ich die Tränen des Mittels sehen. Weil wenn du etwas mit dem Mitteln grinst,
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Der Kutter verliert kleine Stücke und Teile von Material, das in der Steine gewägt werden würde. Und wieder einmal, das ist nicht meine Idee. Es ist so, dass jeder das weiß. Aber als Ben van Kerkreken, als ich mein altes Mikroskop hatte, wussten wir, dass wir fast keine Tränen des Metalls gefunden haben. Wir haben ein bisschen gefunden, aber nicht wirklich genug, um aufgeregt zu sein.
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Und dann, als ich mir die Wäsche, die ich letztens gekauft habe, angeschaut habe, konnte ich nichts finden. Das ist nicht in Ordnung mit der Idee, dass die Steine mit einem Metallcutter verarbeitet wurden.
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Du hast es wahrscheinlich richtig gesagt. Wenn es ein sehr unterschiedlicher Stein war. Wenn man versucht hat, Granit mit Granit zu schneiden.
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Aber du hast nichts gesehen.
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Nichts. Und es scheint, dass ich nicht der erste bin. Hier möchte ich den russischen Laboratorium für Alternativgeschichte nennen, weil sie das schon viel länger gemacht haben als ich. Und ein bestimmter Teilnehmer dieser Gruppe, Julia Gorlova, hat eine Menge Mikroskopie gemacht. Und ich habe ihre Präsentationen gesehen. Sie sind alle in Russisch, aber ich spreche russisch. So she complained too.
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She said, you know, we find hardly any traces of metal. So they were like, why, you know, how is this cut? You know, they did find one, I think it was a granite gate in Karnak. Samples from there did have bronze in it. So that was like the only place where they found like these chips of bronze that were consistent with ablation, you know, when you run a tool. Anywhere else was nothing.
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So they had to switch gears. And years later I'm doing the same work and at the same conclusion. How can you explain this? Well, to me, the easiest way to explain it is they must have softened the stone. Und dann, weißt du, wenn du es verschmierst, dann wird es die Konsistenz von Kleber, oder ungefähr, richtig?
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Und dann würde der Kutter nicht ablösen, weißt du, der Kutter würde keine Bisse und Teile seines Materials verlieren, er würde einfach, weißt du, alle Läufe entfernen. Also werde ich diese Hypothese testen. Einer der Vase, die ich gekauft habe, werde ich zerbrechen, weil es das innere surface that hasn't been polished.
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So if I look at that surface and I find traces of metal from the cutter, I would know how much to expect and how it would look like when we do take a metal cutter to a stone and it loses its bits and pieces, I will be able to see that clearly. And if I do in fact see it, then the conclusion would be pretty strong that the stone must have been softened.
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enough to where whatever tool was used didn't lose any bits and pieces of material. And in my mind, it's consistent with the nuclear hypothesis. Maybe it was something else they've done to it. To prove nuclear hypotheses, I would have to do more studies than that, but that's kind of the direction I'm going, and...
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Die Wäsche, die aus Giftshoppen hergestellt wurden, oder Wäsche, die von Artisanten in Bangladesch, Pakistan hergestellt wurden. Ich hatte letztes Mal drei. Und jetzt habe ich fünf, weil ich zwei mehr gescannt habe, mit einem optischen Scanner, den ich von Keyence gekauft habe. Und sie sind alle sehr ähnlich.
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So, I will kind of recap. Like you mentioned Mastabas, right. So Mastabas have elevated radon level. And as I said, you know, 10 to 20 times over background.
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Currently, you know, when I talk to my friends who are participating in peer review, they say, well, it could have accumulated there naturally because it's kind of an enclosed space. So really, I need to go in and take some measurements to address, you know, those concerns. Okay. Denn die Leute, die diese Forschung gemacht haben, waren
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Ich denke, es hat sich auf Sicherheit konzentriert, weil ich es schon erwähnt habe, dass die Archäologen zu viel sterben. Sie haben eine Studie gemacht, wie sicher es ist, zu arbeiten, und das Radon-Level war das erste, was sie beobachtet haben, damit sie wissen, dass es nicht besonders sicher ist.
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Aber wenn ich ein paar mehr Messungen und Kontrollen gemacht habe, konnte ich entscheiden, ob es ein natürliches Radon-Level ist, das nur akkumuliert wurde, weil es im Untergrund ist, nicht ventiliert ist. Oder etwas anderes passiert.
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Und was ich tun möchte, ist, dass ich meinen Spektrometer nehmen möchte und nicht nur Radon-Partikel zählen, sondern sehe, welche Gamma-Rasen vorhanden sind, weil das mir sagt, welche anderen Elemente da sind. Wie viel Thorium, Uranium, Potassium-40, was wir noch haben. Was ist die ganze Bildung? Ich weiß es nicht. Aber das ist einer. Der andere ist offensichtlich der Osiris-Schacht.
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die auf dem Giza-Plateau ist. Und ein Laboratorium für Alternativgeschichte, da unten. Und ich denke, man kann da unten mit spezieller Aufmerksamkeit gehen. Es wäre also interessant, dort zu gehen. Aber was da drin ist, sind zwei Sarkophagen auf dem zweiten Niveau und eine auf dem dritten, unter Wasser.
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Und wenn ich mich an diese ganze Struktur anschaue, weil ich ein Nuklearschütze bin, finde ich, ja, It reminds like a nuclear storage facility, because oftentimes nuclear reactors are submerged in water, either for cooling or for neutron moderation. So the bottom level, the third level, where the sarcophagus is underwater, looks an awful lot like a neutron, like a
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wie ein Nuklearreaktor, wo Wasser für Kühlung und Neutronenmoderation verwendet wird. Denn wenn du eine Stärke hast, die viele Neutronen emittet, sind sie ziemlich schlecht. Für zwei Gründe. Sie werden dich töten. Das ist einer Grund. Und der andere Grund ist, dass sie alles radioaktiv machen. Alles, mit dem sie in Kontakt kommen, wird radioaktiv.
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Deshalb benötigt man einen Moderator, um all diese Neutronen zu erzeugen, damit der Rest nicht ausgelöst wird.
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I don't think they even repurposed it. I think they just discovered it. I think there were some human remains found in one of the empty niches.
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Yeah, I think a jawbone. But it wasn't like a typical Egyptian burial. It was more like a Neolithic, I think. But I could be wrong, really. But the sarcophagi, the two ones, are empty. But what is interesting about them... Sie haben einen Lager von Bitumen auf sie. Und eine der Sarkophagen, Julia Gorlova, hat eine Sammlung genommen und hat herausgefunden, dass es viel Leber gibt.
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Und das ist der erste Ereignis, von dem ich weiß, wo ich eine Sammlung von einer dieser so viel Leit entdeckt. Und wo wurde das Leid gefunden? In einer dieser Boxen. Es ist verpackt mit Residuen, Bitumen und anderen Arten. Sie haben also nur ein bisschen davon gekopft und es gab eine Menge Leit drin.
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Sie haben alle eine gute Qualität, aber wie Sie sehen, ist sie nicht so gut wie die Qualität von einigen der präzisen, der größten präzisen Artefakte der Metz-Bells-Kollektion. Wenn wir also nach unten gehen, erläutere ich an diesem Punkt ein bisschen mehr. So here is a scatter plot of quality. And here the horizontal axis is inner quality metric in thousands of an inch.
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Eine Menge. Und für mich ist das spannend, weil, wenn man, sagen wir, meine Theorie ist, dass Psychophagie oder sowohl Versorgungselemente für nukleare Materialien, wie in modernen Powerplanten, wir haben dieses,
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uranium assemblers that go in it's a part you know with uranium in it that you know goes inside the reactor the old part goes out so it's like a replaceable component so to me this psychophagy is a similar idea it's like a nuclear component that goes in inside a reactor that provides power to it
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Und wenn das der Fall war, und es saß dort für eine lange Zeit, und es hatte irgendein Remnant von Material übrig, dann würde es alle bis zum Ende mit Leber abdecken. Also am Ende des Tages, egal wie viele nukleare Materialien man startet, die Decay Chains, alle Decay Chains enden mit Leber. Und das ist das, wieso ich so aufgeregt bin, dass sie ein Lid gefunden haben.
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Und wenn ich das so machen würde, könnte ich auch andere Anzeigen suchen. Weißt du, finde ich etwas, das noch nicht entdeckt ist? Denn in der Nuklearschätzung entdeckt sich nichts komplett. Es ist eine Halbzeit, was bedeutet, so oft halbt es. Also startest du mit 10, x-Wert ist 5, x-Wert ist 2,5, x-Wert ist 1,25 und so weiter und so fort. Es wird also nie 0 sein.
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Und wenn es genug Determinierung gibt, kann man Tracers holen. Das ist es, worauf ich interessiert bin. Den gleichen Sampler zu bekommen, ihn in meinen Detektor zu stecken und für Tage zu zählen. Yeah, so it's not far off from nuclear reactor design. Yeah, you have a reactor underwater or in molten salt, as I said, for cooling or for nutrient moderation.
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So I kind of refuse to believe that someone drilled square shafts in the ground in the bedrock. You know, how the heck do you even drill a square shaft? And it was all underwater. So back then, the water table was higher. It was all underwater. Das ist sehr interessant für mich zu recherchieren. Das ist das Zweite.
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Ach, wer weiß. Ich meine, es ist wirklich unmöglich. Ich weiß nicht, wie es heute ist. Ja, das ist, wie es aussieht. Ja, das ist, wo eine der Sarkophagen noch unter Krieg ist. Das ist der niedrigste Niveau. Und lustig genug ist, dass es eine Schacht gibt, die nach der großen Pyramide von Giza geht. So evidently it was like at the same complex. It's not like an independent structure.
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So I'm thinking maybe that's like one of the power sources for the pyramid and the second was the sarcophagus and the king's chamber. So maybe, you know, two of them work, but you know, we're kind of getting to the really interesting part. And of course the third one is the Okla reactor in Gabon, you know, this natural, you know, purportedly natural nuclear reactor.
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Also diese drei, und dann die vier, die ich sehe, die erhöhten Level der Thoriumaktivität in diesen Vasen, was mich dazu bringt, eine andere Spekulation zu diskutieren. Also als ich diese Vase angeschaut habe, dachte ich mir, das sind keine Vase oder Pots. Sie sind so fein gemacht, so präzise gemacht, dass ich sie als Teil einer Maschine glaube.
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Und um die Frage zu beantworten, was für eine Partie es ist, müssen wir sehen, warum es aus Stein hergestellt wird. Ist es, weil diese ältere Zivilisation nicht in der Lage war, Metall zu arbeiten? Das ist lachbar, richtig? Also, wenn sie die nukleare Macht beherrschen, könnten sie sicherlich Teile aus Metall machen. Was ist also einzigartig an Stein oder Granit?
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And the vertical axis is outer quality metric in thousands of an inch. And this is the logarithmic plot. And once again, you know, as a scientist, I tend to go with complex stuff like logarithmic plots because it gives me all points to where I can see them. Aber es macht keinen Sinn, wie groß der Unterschied zwischen der präzisen Klasse, die grün ist, und der unpräzisen Klasse, die blau ist.
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Speziell wenn man es mit Metall vergleicht. Und was einzigartig ist, wenn man in einen modernen Maschinenshop geht, haben sie eine Granit-Tasche für Metrologie. Es ist wie ein großer, schwerer Tisch mit einem dünnen Schlauch von Granit. Das ist, wo sie ihre Teile zu messen setzen. Und der Grund, warum sie das tun, ist, weil Metall flexiert. Granit flexiert nicht. Ich meine...
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Nicht bis zum selben Ende. Es ist also sehr, sehr fest. Es hält seine Form. Temperatur, Druck, Vibration, es ist nur ein Schlapp. Deshalb sind alle Metrologie-Tabeln, die Messungstabeln, aus Granit hergestellt. Und wenn man es aus Metall macht, ja, hier geht es. Metall würde flexieren. Und deine Messung wäre ein Fehler. Und du würdest sagen, das ist ein kleiner Fehler.
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Wenn du kleine Teile arbeitest, hohe Präzision-Teile, dann musst du Granit benutzen.
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Es ist also ein Industrie-Standard. Jeder weiß, dass Granit nicht flexiert. Temperatur, Druck, Vibration, Stress flexieren nicht einfach. Und diese sind aus Granat und Basalt hergestellt. Und Basalt ist ziemlich ähnlich. Also, weil mein Hintergrund in der Akustik und der Ultrasonik ist, als ich diese Vase analysiert habe, habe ich bemerkt, dass die äußere Oberfläche parabolisch scheint.
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Und das hat mich aufgeregt. weil, wo benutzen wir parabolische Oberflächen? Nun, wir benutzen sie in Bildschirmen, in Teleskopbildschirmen, Akustikbildschirmen, in jedem Art von Bildschirm, wo ein Wind reinfällt und man es auf den Zentrum fokussieren möchte, muss es eine parabolische Form haben, um das zu funktionieren. Nicht sphärisch, aber parabolisch.
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Also habe ich gesagt, yay, lass mich den Fokus dieser Parabola blättern. Und ich erwartete, dass der Fokus der Parabola in der Mitte ist. Und ich erwartete, dass der Fokus der inneren und außen Parabola zu verglichen ist. Und als ich dieses Nummern auf deinem Vase gemacht habe, sehe ich, dass der V-Key nicht verglichen ist und nicht verglichen ist.
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Die innere Parabola verglichen nicht mit der außen Parabola und sie kam nicht zum Zentrum. Und ich so, was zur Hölle? Denn klar sind diese Wäsche, also Wessel, Objekte, bis zu hoher Präzision ausgestattet. Warum würdest du sie zu so einer großen Schiene polieren, wo es Tausende von Inch gibt? Das macht Sinn, wenn du eine Waffe formen willst und diese sehr präzise machen musst.
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Aber warum kommt es nicht zu einem Fokus? Das war mir beängstigend, bis ich gestern mit jemandem gesprochen habe. Und sie sagten, ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, es war ihre Spekulation, sie sagten, ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass Ägypten Geräusche benutzt haben, um ihre Steine zu prüfen oder sie zu wechseln. Aber es war nicht nur eine Frequenz, es waren mehrere Frequenzen.
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Und das war wie ein Aha-Moment für mich. Das macht Sinn. Vielleicht sind diese Vase Resonatoren, aber Resonatoren, die nicht zu einer bestimmten Frequenz eingeschaltet sind. Aber eher, sagen wir mal, es gibt einen technischen Begriff, einen COM Filter. Ein COM Filter ist etwas, das wie eine Broadband-Wave erhält. C-O-M-B? Ja, wie ein COM, wie ein Hair-COM.
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Aber Sie können es sehen, wenn wir die Skala von logarithmisch bis linear wechseln, und das wäre der nächste Plot.
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So it receives a broadband wave, which in lay's terms noise, like is a broadband noise. And COM filter suppresses all the frequencies except for those it's meant to leave. And that's why it's called COM, yeah. So I think that these vessels are COM filters. So they receive this broadband input, let's say an acoustical noise, and then they leave certain frequencies in and the rest out.
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And I think that would explain why it's made out of stone. Weil, wenn es aus Metall hergestellt wurde, würde Metall an seiner eigenen intrinsischen Frequenz resonieren, weil Metall flexiert. Und deshalb machen wir Bälle aus Metall. Weil die Bälle rein und raus gehen, rein und raus. Es vibriert, es flexiert und das ist das Geräusch, das wir hören. Diese würden nicht ringen, weil sie so fest sind.
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Was bedeutet, dass wenn man ein breites Bandgeräusch reinbringt, es alle Frequenzen zerstört, außer für die, die es behauptet, zu behalten. Und ich denke, das erklärt, warum wir Pots sehen, die ähnlich sind, aber etwas anders sind. Denn das sind alles KOM-Filter, die für eine bestimmte Anwendung angepasst werden. Und dann werde ich mehr spekulieren.
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Ich denke, was, wenn sie die Kombination dieses Geräusches und radioaktiver Isotope benutzen, um die Steine zu wechseln? Sagen wir, Sie sind ein Aquarist. Sie haben einen Block, den Sie kreieren wollen. Und natürlich werden Sie es nicht schütteln, Sie werden es nicht wechseln. Sie wollen es wechseln.
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Und suppose the softening action is accomplished by way of mixing these radioactive isotopes with a particular sound wave, just to, let's say, not exactly melt, but soften the crystalline structure.
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dann würde es wahrscheinlich bedeuten, dass verschiedene Steine ein bisschen unterschiedliche Frequenzen benötigen, weil wir Diorit, Dolarit, Dacite, Granit haben oder sogar die gleichen Arten von Steinen, aber aus verschiedenen Gründen, die ein bisschen unterschiedliche chemische und grafische Kompositionen haben und so weiter.
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Also glaube ich, was sie gemacht haben, es gab eine Art Kontraption, die sie verwendeten, um neben der Steine zu legen, und dann mussten sie es durch einen Filter tun. Und ich denke, diese Pots waren wahrscheinlich diese resonanten Filter, die designt wurden, um spezifische Röhrchen zu wechseln.
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Vielleicht startest du mit einer generikeren und siehst, was die Antwort ist, und dann weißt du, okay, ich weiß, welche Frequenzen ich erhöhen und welche Frequenzen ich zerstören muss, und du machst eine neue. Und deshalb finden wir so viele, die fast gleich sind, aber etwas anders, weil jeder von ihnen programmiert ist, um eine andere Komponente von Frequenzen zu produzieren.
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wenn ich mich an die Spuren deiner präzisen Vase schaue, ist, wie gut die Innenseite auf der Außenseite konzentriert ist. Und das ist unmöglich zu tun, ohne irgendwelche Messungsinstrumenten. Deine Objekte sahen etwas radioaktiver aus als die natürlichen Steine, von denen sie kamen.
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Aber sie sind ziemlich ähnlich, weil diese Granite ähnlich ist wie diese Granite, aber nicht genau gleich, aber hey, Es ist wie wenn man ein Radio macht. Es gibt ein paar bestimmte Tunings, die man machen muss. Deshalb haben wir ein paar Resistoren, Kapazitoren, um diesen Filter zu machen. Ich denke, es ist die gleiche Idee.
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Aber hier haben wir einen akustischen Komponenten, der diese Frequenz spezifiziert. Am Ende des Tages wechselt sich der Stein und dann könnte der Stein, wie Kleid, getrocknet werden. Oder vielleicht etwas anderes. Vielleicht war es für die Transporte. Ich weiß nicht. Wir können wirklich spekulieren. Aber ich denke, dass diese Pots akustische Komponente sind. Und das ist etwas, das ich testen kann.
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Wenn ich mit einem von ihnen arbeiten kann, kann ich bestimmte Geräusche dazu setzen und sehen, was die Antwort ist. Das würde einen guten Experiment für später als später machen. Weil... Ich denke, es ergibt einen perfekten Sinn. Es erklärt, warum sie aus Stein hergestellt werden, warum diese Form speziell ist, weil wenn die Antwort ein Com-Filter ist, dann ist es ein Com-Filter.
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Wie würde der Prozess funktionieren? Um ganz ehrlich zu sein, weiß ich nicht alle Details. In der Welt der wilden Spekulationen. In sehr breiten Terminen sagen wir, wir haben einen Stein, der eine kristallisierte Struktur ist. Und diese kristallisierte Struktur hat einige Vibrationmode dazu.
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Und wenn wir einfach, sagen wir, einen ungewöhnlichen Geräusch machen, wie ein Horn, würde es einige Vibrationmode erzeugen, aber nicht die anderen. Also vielleicht, vielleicht Let's say this spot was tuned to produce a collection of waves that need to excite all of the vibrational modes to soften the rock. But you also need power. You need to apply power. So where does the power come from?
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Ich würde sagen, die beste Art, es zu charakterisieren, wäre, dass die Distanz zwischen 1 und 10 die gleiche ist wie die Distanz zwischen 10 und 100. Das ist das gleiche wie die Distanz zwischen 100 und 1.000.
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If you blow the horn, it's the power of your lungs. If it's an industrial process, you have blowers and pumps. So maybe they used these radioactive materials to drive some kind of Let's say pump or blower or vibrator, you know, to generate this noise. So you need this noise. So I don't think somebody was just blowing in a tube, you know, to feed this.
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So maybe either radioactive components or, you know, something else was the source of this acoustic power that was filtered, let's say, by this pot and was applied to the stone and then, you know, stone would soften and then you would cut it. Would the pot be up against the rock itself? Pull up the unfinished obelisk, Ryan. Weil die Pfanne sieht aus, als hätte sie eine Flange.
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Die Lippe der Pfanne ist eine Flange und die Lücken sind Lücken, um sie in der Lage zu halten. Also ist mein Geld daran, dass die Pfanne an die Maschine eingestellt wurde, die einen bestimmten Stein arbeitete. Und dann, wenn sie auf einen anderen Stein gehen, würden sie einen anderen Resonator einsetzen.
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Ja, ja. Und natürlich ist das eine wilde Spekulation. Es könnte ein wildes Liron sein. Aber das ist, was ich jetzt denke, dass diese Steine, die Maschinen, die die Steine entschleunigen, als sie sie schmutzten. Und wenn wir mit der Akustiktheorie gehen, waren sie eine Komponente, um die Frequenzen zu wählen, die genau benötigt wurden, um die Steine zu wechseln.
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Und das ist eine gemeinsame Technik, die man benutzt, wenn man wilde Daten hat, die man auf dem gleichen Platz abschneiden möchte.
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Und dann muss natürlich alles poweriert werden. Und ich würde sagen, es war alles nuklear poweriert, weil die Zivilisation verbessert wurde und wir Tränen der Radioaktivität gesehen haben. Das ist das, was ich besuche.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ich würde sagen, es gibt andere Orte in der Welt, wo wir Vitrifizierung sehen. Vitrifizierung ist, wenn ein Stein glasig wird. In der Tat gibt es viele vitrifizierte Granaten in Ägypten und es gibt viele Vitrifizierungen in bestimmten Teilen des Sahara. und im Gobi-Desert in Südamerika. Also sehen wir das, und das wäre eine konsistente, explosive Erhöhung von Nuklearenergie.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ob es eine Nuklearexplosion ist, oder vielleicht haben sie die Oberfläche deliberate gearbeitet, um es zu vitrifizieren, weil es mit schnellem Heaten und schnellem Kühlen ist. Es wäre schwierig, das mit chemischen Mittel zu tun, weil man intensiven Feuer erzeugen muss. Und dann sehen wir keine Beweise von Entschädigung oder Zerstörung. Es ist heilig, aber ohne Pyramiden.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Also gehen wir zum nächsten. Also hier habe ich die logarithmische Skala gedroht und ich habe die lineare Skala gemacht. Und du kannst sehen, dass all die präzisen Objekte, die grünen. Sie sind im Grunde nur eine Klappe auf der linken Seite. Man kann sie kaum entfernen. Wobei impre size, die blau sind, weit nach rechts und nach oben. Und das sind nicht alle von ihnen.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Das Einzige, was geholfen hat, waren die Flaschen, die die Explorers benutzen. Es gab keine anderen. Was sonst? Könnten es vielleicht Mikrowellen sein? Oh, aber eine kurze Note, bevor ich vergesse. Mein Sohn ist Radioingenieur. Er versteht alles über Radiowäden und es gibt viele Gespräche über Mikrowäden, die in Pyramiden verwendet werden.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Wenn ich ihn als Radioingenieur frage, was er denkt, sagt er, dass es B.S. ist, weil Mikrowäden Metall benötigen. Wenn man also Steine hat, wie die Elektrische, ist es nicht ein Waveguide. Es funktioniert im Grunde nicht. Die Mikrowäden würden nicht reflektieren.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Das ist ein Teil des Peer-Review-Prozesses, also du hast eine Idee, aber ich weiß sehr wenig über Radio-Wäden, also kann ich nicht sagen, ob das Bullshit ist oder nicht. Also habe ich mit einem Radio-Ingenieur gesprochen, der sagte, ich kaufe nicht die Microwave-Hypothese, weil wenn du etwas machst, das Microwave benutzen muss, dann benutzt du Metall. Also ohne Metall, das entfernt wurde,
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, I like Ross Fellows' idea and assuming of course that he quotes the sources correctly because I'm quoting him assuming he quotes the sources correctly. So he says that Dozier was celebrated for combating eine Krankheit, eine Famine, irgendeine Art von Kalamität. Also ist er mit dem kreditiert. Und so hat er es gemacht.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Er hat 40.000, 50.000 von den Steinbräuchen gekauft und sie in einem Ort unter dem steppenden Pyramiden gebraten. Und Ross interpretiert es so, als wäre es eine Tätigkeit der Dekontaminierung. Und es macht Sinn. Also supposieren Sie, dass Sie dieses Legitimum der advanced Zivilisation haben, das ein paar dieser Pots verlassen hat, die mit unverbrauchtem Nuklearschutz kontaminiert wurden.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und Sie haben Leute, die sie finden und sagen, oh, es sieht aus wie ein Pot, ich werde davon essen. Also natürlich, die Leute beginnen zu sterben, links und rechts. Until someone connects the dots and says, you know, each freaking family that used this stone vessel died. How about, you know, we collect them all because they clearly have evil spirits.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
You know, we collect them all in one place, bury them and say it's taboo to approach because if you approach, you die. And it sounds to me like this is what he's done. And as soon as he collected all those pots, threw them away, buried them, you know, people weren't dying as much.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Bis morgen.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Okay.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Die meisten von ihnen haben das nicht gemacht. Weil sonst, weißt du, der Chart würde nicht auf dem Bild befinden. Und du siehst auch, dass die modernen Artefakte ein bisschen im Mittelpunkt sind. Also habe ich diesen Chart ein bisschen mehr erhöht. Also wenn wir auf den nächsten Chart gehen.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ja. Ich meine, das ist, wenn ich es so sagen kann, eine der tollsten Dinge über die Radiation, ist, dass sie verdächtigt ist. Es ist Zeit.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Entschuldige. Also die Spots von dir, sie haben eine Anzahl von Tracern. Ja. Das liegt beinahe auf dem Hintergrund.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Es gibt andere Wege, sich zu töten, wie Alkohol, Drogen und Frauen.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ja, das ist ein exzellentes Punkt. Wenn ich diese Wessel als technische Teile, als Teile einer Maschine anschaue, Und ich benutze viele Teile in meiner Forschung, in meinem Vakuumwerk und in meinem Fusion-Werk. Also alle Teile, die wir benutzen, haben Flächen, die sehr ähnlich zu den Lippen dieser Teile sind. Also wenn ich an dieser hochbearbeiteten flachen Lippe sehe,
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Für mich ist es eine Flasche, denn ich sehe Flaschen wie diese in jedem Wackempunkt, den ich zusammenstelle. Du hast also eine Flasche, dann hast du eine Gaskette, eine andere Flasche und dann hast du eine Klampe. Das ist so, wie man sie befestigt. Die Lüftungshändler. Ursprünglich, glaube ich, hatten die Lüftungshändler keine Löcher. Alle Löcher wurden später eingefügt.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und von der technischen Sicht braucht man Lack-Handle, wenn man einen Pott festhalten möchte. Wenn man eine Flasche hat, kann es drehen. Und wenn man es nicht will, muss man Lacks haben, die von der Flasche fliegen, die in die Nischen gehen, wo auch immer es geht, um sie festzuhalten. Und das ist ein weiterer gemeinsamer Pattern, der in der Einstellung von Teilen in eine Maschine verwendet wird.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Wenn man ein Stück nicht bewegen will, es hat einen Lack oder etwas anderes fliegend, und man hat eine Nische, in die es fliegt. So that would be my interpretation of the lip and the lug handles. Now what I find fascinating is how on earth those were machined. Because it's easy to contemplate a lathe, right? So you have a lathe, something spinning, you have a cutter.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So making a cylindrical shape is a piece of cake. Nun, etwas mit einem Handel zu machen, ist eine ganz andere Geschichte, weil die Art und Weise, wie diese wahrscheinlich gemacht wurden, da war ein Riemen für die Lackhandel. Und dann hat man irgendwie, weißt du, das Riemen wurde mit nur zwei Lackhandeln verarbeitet, was bedeutet, dass man plötzlich noch ein anderes Werkzeug benötigt, wie ein Mill.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und das ist etwas, was ich studieren möchte, indem ich diese Metrologie-Analysen mache. Ich hoffe, dass ich herausfinde, wie die Händler aus diesem Ring ausgemachiniert wurden. Denn das scheint so zu sein, wie es gemacht wurde. Aber alles ist einfach. Es braucht eine andere Maschine, eine völlig andere Maschine. Denn wenn ich 3D-Modelle von Scannen schaue, I don't see any imperfections.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So somehow they were able to match the rest of the surface so perfectly. Clearly it was not done by hand. And frankly, I don't see how it could be done without using CNC. Because let's say you spin a lace and you can give it any shape and not worry about it, even if you drive the tool manually. Because whatever it is, it's going to be symmetric. But if you need to duplicate it,
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, you need another tool, you know, either a template driven or because, and that was the earliest form of programming, like at the dawn of the 20th century, they used templates. But how the heck, you know, do you use a template on the mill, you know? Ich denke, es ist möglich, aber es ist alles, was einfach ist. Wir sprechen jetzt über den nächsten Niveau der Komplexität.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Deswegen bin ich gespannt, ob wir sehen können, wie die Hände ausgemachiniert wurden. Denn es ist viel schwieriger, als nur das ganze Ding auf einem Lack zu drehen oder es auszuhalten oder zu polieren. Es ist wie ein ganz anderer Schritt in der Maschinierung.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Okay. Du sprichst von der nuklearen Maschinen-Theorie, richtig. Ich glaube also, dass die ältere Zivilisation Radioisotope benutzt hat, um Steine zu maschinen. Entweder um Steine zu schneiden, um sie zu polieren, um sie zu kreieren. Entweder hat es mit einem Blading-Material funktioniert, so wie wir es mit Ion-Beamen machen, oder es hat mit der Entfernung der Steine funktioniert.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und wir können es besser sehen auf der nächsten Schicht.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
so dass man es mit einem normalen Werkzeug schneiden kann. Aber man schneidet es nicht wegen der Stärke des Steins. Man schneidet es einfach wie Butter, weil man die Steine durch diesen radioaktiven Isotopen entschleunigt. Eine Ausführung dieser Theorie ist, dass vielleicht das Geräusch daran beteiligt war. Vielleicht war es eine komponierte Aktion von radioaktiven Isotopen und akustischen Wägen.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So, hier habe ich den Linear-Chart noch mehr erweitert. Und natürlich musste ich alle unpräzise Objekte auswählen, weil sie einfach nicht passen. Aber so können wir sehen, wie die präzisen Objekte aus der Met Bells-Kollektion zusammenbinden. Versus wie moderne Objekte zusammenbinden. Und hier können wir sehen, oh, warte einen Moment. Sie wissen, das sind zwei verschiedene Clusters.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und diese akustischen Wägen sind nicht nur eine einzelne Frequenz, sondern es ist eine Kollektion von Frequenzen. Und ich glaube, dass diese Wägen, akustische Wägen, Geräusche, zu der Kugel getunten wurden, um die chemische Komposition in Bezug zu nehmen. Also ist es Granat, ist es Basalt, ist es Marmor, was schneiden wir? und vielleicht spielt auch die Größe des Rockes eine Rolle.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und das ist der Grund, warum diese Steine-Wesseln akustische Komponente aussehen, die spezifisch für den Rock gestaltet wurden. Und das ist der Grund, warum wir so viele verschiedene Formen und Arten haben, denn sie sind generell ähnlich, aber sie sind unterschiedlich.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und das hat für die längste Zeit keinen Sinn für mich gemacht, weil wenn du etwas maßgeblich produzierst, dann fängst du einfach an, das gleiche Ding zu drehen. Hunderttausend Kuppen hier, warum würdest du sie alle anders haben? Aber es macht Sinn, nur wenn du die Frequenz für jeden Stein oder jede Art von Frosch, die du arbeitest, tun musst.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Also konnten sie es messen und einen Pott auf den Spot machen. Es wurde also in das Instrument eingepackt, das den Stein arbeitete. Und so wurde es erfolgt. Das ist ein sehr kurzer Summary.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ich denke nicht unbedingt. Ich denke, der wichtige Faktor war, dass es ein sehr flaches Rock sein musste. Denn hier ist eine Unterschiede zwischen Rock und Metall. Wir machen also Bälle aus Metall. Warum? Weil eine Bälle ein Resonator ist. Sie resoniert an ihrer intrinsischen Frequenz, weil Metall flexiert. Diese Teile flexieren nicht.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Das ist die Unterschiede zwischen Metall und Stein, insbesondere Granit. Granit flexiert nicht so leicht, nicht fast so viel. Es ist nichts, aber nicht flexibel. So what I think the function of it is, is a COM filter. You supply a broad range of frequencies noise, basically. And out of that, it suppresses all of the frequencies, except for those it's meant to keep.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And then you get, you know, this three or four or however many, you know, program frequencies that need to go into the rock. And it doesn't matter what rock it's made of, as long as it's a hard rock that doesn't flex. Because if it flexes, it's going to start producing its own resonant frequency, as opposed to... Die Frequenz kommt aus dem genauen Geräusch. Das ist faszinierend.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I don't think so. We missed anything.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ich möchte ein paar Menschen bedanken. Bitte, bitte. Ich möchte dich natürlich bedanken, dass du mich unterstützt hast und mir diese Forschung unterstützt hast und deine Kollektion zur Verfügung gestellt hast. Und natürlich möchte ich auch Ryan von Dudley Femmer bedanken. Er hilft mir mit geologischen Fragen und ich kann Not thank Stein Gerdes, because she pointed me towards Samir.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Die modernen Objekte sind also nicht so gut gemacht wie einige der präzisesten Objekte deiner Kollektion. In Wahrheit, wenn du die Zahlen anschaust, sind die modernen Objekte vier- bis fünfmal schlimmer gemacht, in Bezug auf die Qualitätsmetriken, als die präzisesten Objekte deiner Kollektion. Das sind also zwei unterschiedliche Punktklauen.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Stanislav is another gentleman I'd like to thank, because he introduced me to the idea of Das ist der Grund, warum ich so aufgeregt bin, diese Videos zu machen und auf meine Website zu posten. Denn die Leute kommentieren. Sie haben faszinierende Fragen, faszinierende Ideen und Expertise, die nicht vorhanden sind. Das ist, was ich als Peer-Reviewer denke.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ich kenne nicht alles, ich kenne sehr wenig. Es geht um sehr wenige Dinge, aber andere Leute kommen rein und sehen Probleme und Löcher oder haben eigene Ideen und das ist, wie ich sehe, was Peer Review zu tun hat. Jeder hat etwas zu sagen, sollte es sagen und am Ende des Tages, hoffentlich wird es näher zur Wahrheit. Und vielleicht werde ich herausfinden, dass all meine Ideen Bullshit sind.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Or maybe we'll be able to prove it. Who knows? That's what makes it interesting.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Sure.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
welches mir sagt, dass ich moderne Objekte ganz überzeugend von den präzisesten Objekten deiner Kollektion entfernen kann. Vielleicht nur für S5, welches in der modernen Bunch-Kategorie liegt. Und letztes Mal hast du gesagt, dass du denkst, dass einige meiner Objekte Verbrecher sein könnten. Und wenn ich sagen möchte, dass jeder von Ihren Objekten ein Forger sein könnte, dann wäre das der S5.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Okay. Weil er in das passt.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Das war einer der Spinner. Ich weiß nicht, welcher. Okay, interessant. Aber ich denke, es ist der größere Spinner, den Sie hatten.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ja, es ist wie ein großer. Okay, ja. Und noch einmal, ich sage nicht, dass es definitiv ein Forger ist. Ich sage nur, es ist mehr konsistent in Qualität als modern. Ja. Let me elaborate on the meaning of it. My conclusion is that this analysis technique of CAT scans that I've developed can tell apart handmade artifacts from modern artifacts, from the most precise artifacts from your collection.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Meine Hypothese ist, dass diese ehemalige Zivilisation gelernt hat, wie sie die nukleare Energie für ihre täglichen Bedürfnisse harnessen konnte. Deswegen wurden einige dieser Artefakte entweder durch die nukleare Technologie hergestellt oder in einer Maschine mit nuklearen Technologien verwendet.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
It's very clear when you look at the chart. And I think I know the reason why. Weil moderne Giftshop-Vasen, die ich gekauft habe und studiert habe, und gescannt habe und studiert habe, und drei davon, die du für mich gescannt hast, mit dem CT-Scanner, und zwei sind die optischen Scans.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Also, diese wurden deutlich auf Lathen hergestellt, weil Objekte dieser Qualität sehr einfach auf Lathen hergestellt werden können, in der heutigen Zeit.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Richtig, richtig. Und natürlich ist es einfacher, viel weniger Arbeit zu machen, als einfach anzupacken. Außer du genießt es natürlich, anzupacken. Und ich denke, einige dieser Vase, zwei davon waren Onyx und drei sind Marble. Und wenn ich Videos von Artisanten sehe, die diese Objekte machen, weil es ein paar dieser Videos auf YouTube gibt.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Also, wenn du auf YouTube Onyx-Wäsche machst, findest du ein paar Videos aus Pakistan oder Bangladesch, wo Leute diese Steinewässer machen. Und was ich bemerke, ist, dass sie günstige Lassen benutzen. Ja, und sie benutzen Handtücher. Sie benutzen oft Handtücher. In dem Sinne, ich mag das Bild, das du hattest, das Titelbild für das Video. Ja, du siehst, er benutzt ein Handtool, um es zu polieren.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und Handtool, manchmal benutzen sie Handtools, um sie zu polieren, manchmal benutzen sie Handtools, um das Innerste zu schrauben. Oder manchmal schrauben sie das Außen mit dem Handtool. Also spinnt das Lack das Objekt, aber das Tool wird oft mit der Hand gehalten. Und ich denke, das ist das, was wir auf meiner Liste sehen, wenn die orangenen Punkte zusammenbleiben.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Wir sehen, dass die Qualität gut ist, aber es ist nicht spektakulär gut. Und ich denke, es ist nicht spektakulär gut, weil es Handheld-Tools gibt, die entweder für das Schrauben auf der Innenseite oder für das Polieren verwendet werden. Und die Leiste ist nicht so gut.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und ich denke, diese Schlussfolgerung wird von einem neuen Datenpunkt unterstützt, den ich noch nicht in diesem Post enthalten habe. Es wird in dem nächsten Post sein. Und ich habe tatsächlich einen Granit-Vase von Ebay gekauft. Er war etwas teurer als die anderen. Ich habe einen ganzen 50 Dollar verwendet, um ihn zu kaufen. Wo ist das? Ein Onyx-Vase kostet 15, 20 Dollar, Giftshop-Material.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Aber ich habe den Bank gebrochen. Ich habe 50 Dollar auf einen Granit-Vase verwendet. Und ich habe das in meinem Scanner gescannt. Und mein Scanner ist Keyence. Es ist ein metrologisch großartiges Instrument, das von Perfektion von einem Zehntel von einem Tausendstel, also einem Zehnteltausendstel von einem Inch, auswerten kann.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und ich habe einen metrologischen Standard für die Größe benutzt, um es zu kalibrieren, um sicherzustellen, dass es das tatsächlich auswerten kann. Und es tut das. Also habe ich das Vase aufgescannt. Und ich war überrascht, dass es genau in der präzisen Kategorie fällt. Es ist in Parität mit deiner präzisesten Objekte.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ja, mit der präzisesten Objekte, ja. Die Abweichungen, ich muss von der Erinnerung aus gehen, die Abweichungen von perfekter Zirkularität und perfekter Konzentrizität sind auf der Reihe von einer halben der Tausende von einem H. So that's, you know, I was amazed. And in the hindsight I shouldn't be surprised by the result.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Ich denke, sie haben Isotope genutzt, die nur körperliche Mengen von Elektronen in Steine emittieren. Und die Steine haben sich im Prozess gesäubert. Und dann, wieder einmal, kann man sie kreieren und molden. Wenn ältere Ägypten Radioaktivität hatten, würden wir davon Beweise sehen. Also präsentiert dieses Buch diese Beweise.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yes, yes. But we can make them today only using, you know, high quality laces, where the cutting tools and polishing tools are affixed on the lathe. And they're moved by, you know, when you turn a wheel or you use, you know, a CNC drive to move it so it's Nicht Handheld-Karver, nicht Handheld-Polisher, es ist Teil der Maschine.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Und ich denke, das ist es, was diese beiden, die orange Gruppe und die grüne Gruppe, uns sagen. Beide Gruppen sind maschinierte Objekte. Aber die orange Gruppe ist, sagen wir mal, krudell maschiniert, weil es eine günstige Fläche ist und die Maschine oft Handheld ist.
Matt Beall Limitless
Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Es könnte sein, ja. Aber sie haben oft handgehaltene Polier-Tools benutzt.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Also ja, du machst das raff, mit einem stationären Tool, aber dann, weißt du, du polierst mit einem handgehaltenen Tool und dann, je nachdem, wie hart du drückst, weil es nicht computerkontrolliert ist, denke ich, du bekommst diesen Grad der Variabilität.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
In most cases, yes. The videos that I watch, they often use handheld carvers, metal carvers that they just hold when the vase spins and they carve out.
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Were Ancient Egyptian Vases made using Nuclear Technology? | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Genau, du hast es genau richtig gesagt. Und ich denke, der Grund, warum wir diese stupende Präzision auf diesem modernen Granit-Vasen sehen, ist, weil man, ehrlich gesagt, ein Granit-Vasen auf Lassen mit einem Handheld-Tool nicht machen kann. Weil Granit so hart ist, wirst du viel Zeit haben, um es zu machen.
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Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
My name is Max Fomich of Zemelov. I am the founder of Maximus Energy Corporation. I've been doing my own research at my home lab, primarily focusing on nuclear science. The first thing you see when you walk into our house is a germanium detector, high voltage power supplies, vacuum system, gas analyzers, particle size analyzers. Did you say you had a nuclear reactor at your home?
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Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Well, I mean, I'm not a geologist. So it might be that, you know, if you just look at a random piece of granite, you can find an inclusion. So I just don't know. But that would be my guess. And that's another argument I'm having a lot with other people in the nuclear science community.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
There are a lot of people who are interested in low-energy nuclear reactions or cold fusion, and they always claim transmutation. And transmutation means that a new metal or a new element appears where it should not be. And my argument to these people is, well, you forget that no metal is pure. So let's say you have an iron bar, and you think it's just iron.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
it will contain nearly the entire periodic table in it, in some smaller fractions. But it will, because no material is pure. And in that bar of iron, you know, there will be gold and silver. It will not be a lot, but you know, if you do something to it, that stuff tends to migrate. And that actually happened in my research.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I was working with a nickel alloy, and that nickel alloy was evaporating under the influence of x-rays in my reactor. And at the bottom of that pit, I was getting rare earth. And I was like, holy smokes, you know, I'm synthesizing lanthanum and cerium and praseodymium out of nickel. So I was pretty excited because an electron microscope was very clear.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
It was a spool of rare earth in otherwise your bulk. So I even, you know, submitted a paper to the conference and then I reached out to manufacturer and said, asked them, you know, what else is in your alloy? Because, you know, when I looked at their spec sheet, it just said nickel and cobalt and maybe something else, you know, nothing about rare earth.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But it had an asterisk that said, and other proprietary additives. So I said, you know, what other proprietary additives? And they say, oh, by the way, we add some rare earth to it. And when I look at the boiling temperatures, sure enough, you know, nickel boils before rare earth.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So what I had in that pit where the x-rays were heating the metal, nickel was evaporating and the rest of the additives were concentrating. It was like, you know, I mean, a refinery. So when I presented the paper, it was an example of how you can get fooled because everything is a mixture of everything.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So if you take a piece of granite, you'll find, you know, uranium and thorium in it for sure, but you will also, you know, find iron and you might find, you know, titanium and good knows what. So you need a control. And that's, you know, a very well-known thing in science. You need to have a control and do a comparative analysis. So...
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
It's just, you know, a never-ending learning process. But that's only, you know, one facet of what tells, I think, amateur apart from scientist. And we're talking about idealistic scientists, because, you know, scientists are people. Some are better than others, but, you know, what I consider an ideal for a scientist. A scientist would always remain in doubt.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Well, I have two ideas. First of all, I would start by saying I don't believe that pyramids were religious objects or religious structures. I kind of find it funny when historians or archaeologists don't know what something is, they say, well... Ceremonial. Yeah. If it's a building, they say it's a shrine. If it's a tool, they say it's a... religious artifact.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So by the same token, you walk into a metal, metallurgical plant, you have no idea what it is, it will look damn impressive, you know, pretty high beams and fire, and you say, well, of course it's a shrine. And all this, you know, tweezers and hammers and something else, you know, those will be, you know, religious tools. So that's I don't know, maybe because scientists tend to be atheists.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Not that I am an atheist, but, you know, a more rational explanation is closer to me. So I'm thinking of those are, you know, some utilitarian structures and these are all, you know, utilitarian tools that are not like magical artifacts. So it was used for something. And because I'm a scientist, I'm familiar with plasmas and I'm familiar with sound.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And the two things that are unique about sound and plasmas, they have pretty darn good cleaning effects. In fact, the way we do microchips, plasma etching and plasma cleaning is used all the time. It's like a go-to technological method for ensuring purity, getting rid of surface contaminants, you know, stripping layers, it's plasma etching, plasma cleaning.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So if you have a dirty vacuum chamber, you know, you create some plasma and pump on it and it's gonna be clean. So plasma comes to mind and sound. So we use ultrasonic cleaners, you know, sound just shakes stuff. And if you have anything on the surface and you shake it long enough, it's going to dislodge everything.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So from the scientific perspective, I think you can achieve the same level of cleanliness with plasma or with sound. I'm not saying that's how those were cleaned. Because I don't know how dirty they were in the beginning, it's also possible that I don't know, if they were like found in the desert, I would say, well, maybe just sand blowing, you know, with just a blade and clean it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But because they were found in the pyramid, unless they were like in the desert before that, you know, several hundred years and sand and wind cleaned it. I don't see how else they could be, but you know, what do I know?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Personally, very interesting topic to me, and that's why I'm dying to get a piece of stone that was worked using copper, because I want to establish a baseline. So if somebody could cut me a piece of granite using a copper saw, I'd appreciate it. Even Veronica, my wife, volunteered to say, you know, I'll cut it. If all it takes is, you know, running the saw back and forth, I'll do it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So I might end up taking her up on that. But... When I was watching the Scientists Against Myths video, when they had this Olga of Dovina made vases out of stone, you know, one thing that I noticed, I don't think she used copper tools when she was making them. She used instead wood with some, I think, flint or stone attached to the wood.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And most people, you know, when they measure something, They want to prove something. There is like a certain point they want to prove. And that's the point they're invested in. And once you are invested in a certain point, you are very subjective about it. you want it to be true and you will be upset if it is not so.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And she was using basically an equivalent of an emery in a mixture or slurry. And I was just grinding. There was stone on a stick, so she used. And to polish the surface, she also used stones. So I think it's quite possible to make a vase like this in a general sense, in a general shape and form, using stone tools alone and without resorting to any copper.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Because frankly, I don't see how copper would be any good. Because she was even drilling holes in the lugs with a wooden drill. wooden stick, basically, that was tipped with the stone. Because copper is just, you know, too soft, yes. So you need a stone. And if you use like copper for a holder, it's no better than a stick. And copper was expensive at the time, so stick is cheap, you know.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So I don't see copper as being in a useful manufacturing material, unless you're maybe working on limestone. because limestone or marble is soft enough, it's basically chalk. It's slightly more, you know, dense than chalk, and that you can cut with a copper saw. So that's where the copper saw would be beneficial, because you can actually cut it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
A bronze saw would be better, but I think with copper you could. But, you know, with these hard stones, you know, copper is useless. And you really need other stones to cut it. And to hold another stone, you use a stick. So I think that explains, to me at least, you know, why we don't see much copper, or why we shouldn't be expecting to see much copper.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And it's understandable because let's say if you're an entrepreneur and you're making a claim that your widget does something miraculous, of course you want that claim to be true and you have no incentive to doubt yourself about it because then you undermine your sales pitch or your investor pitch. It's understandable. If you're an academic, then your grants depend on the veracity of your claims.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, and just adding real quick, you're quite right, so coring with copper tube, you know, makes total sense. And in fact, you know, the scientists against myth have shown that you can core granite with copper tubing, because it's not the copper that does the cutting, it's the emery or, you know, sand or quartz crystals, they do. And copper is just a holder, and you, you know, just twist it and
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
quartz grinds on granite, and of course, you know, you make a hole. So that makes sense. So perhaps, you know, some of these vases were cored in the same way, but then, you know, they were polished and machined further. So whatever traces of that initial core is gone. So if there was any copper left on it, you know, all that layer was removed.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So there could be hope in, like, if you find an artifact where the core was broken off and the bottom wasn't quite, you know, cleaned or machined or processed, you know, to the final shape, I would expect to find something there. And that's why I'm interested in looking into these, you know, various cuts, because you need to have a baseline.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
An excellent question. And when I watched Olga's videos... She doesn't do it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Well, her vases aren't that well hollowed out. And I can see how you can hollow out them to some extent manually, but when you watch videos on YouTube now, how people make them, that's all done on a lathe. And on a lathe, you have just an L-shape cutter that goes inside and you hollow it out that way. So my contention would be to make like a really narrow wall. You can do it on a lathe.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Manually, it would be difficult. I don't want to say impossible, because, you know, triple axel was impossible until it was done, right? I'd say it would be difficult. But once again, everything is comparative. And when we, you know, get down to discussing, you know, my paper, I will present my reasoning for why I don't think it was done manually.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
It has to be a lace in my mind. You have to turn it and you have to have an L-shaped cutter. Otherwise, you know, I don't.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I mean, you can machine granite with... some types of carbon steel. I don't know how efficient necessarily it would be, but when I watch videos of other people making, you know, granite artifacts, they typically use diamond tip saws. So they use diamond tip saws for cutters. And I think it's a pretty interesting technology because the object is turning and then your cutter is a desk.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
It's also turning. So they use a turning cutter on the turning object. So double the speed, and that way they can machine the outer surface. And for the inner surfaces, I only saw them using the L-shaped steel cutters. So perchance you'll ruin your cutter in just one vase, but heck, you know, if you have a bunch of them.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So how it could be done in the past, I don't really know, but I don't want to say. It was impossible to do any other way because I don't think you can prove a negative.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So you want to be correct, or you will not get the next round of funding, may not get the next round of funding. But unfortunately, this partiality to the outcome detracts from the truth. And that was the reason why I didn't go into academia once I realized that Academic scientists by far and large are partial to their pet theories, pet ideas, pet whatever. Nobody's interested in truth anymore.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I think Ben threatened to bring some other samples for me to look at, the ones that were dirty, in his own words. And I'm excited about that, because I want to see what those contaminants are, what that sort of dirt. You know, I have a hypothesis too on how this could have been made, and I call it nuclear machining hypothesis.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So suppose we entertain an idea that there were advanced civilizations, you know, prior to ours. And I don't really understand why scientists don't like discussing this. Heck, you know, we're discussing aliens. You know, why not discuss other civilizations? You know, what is so taboo about it?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But if there was an advanced civilization, why are we so certain that they were using the same machining tools as we are using now? Because, you know, we're using cutters and end mills and disks with, you know, diamonds or quartz crystals on them. But I'm thinking if... There was a really advanced civilization. They've been more clever about it. And nuclear science comes to mind.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And of course, because I'm a nuclear scientist, everything nuclear related is interesting. So I thought, you know, what if they used some radioisotopes to machine this? Particularly, you know, what is a radioisotope? Radioisotope is an element that emits high-energy particles. Be that, you know, gamma rays or x-rays, or some radioisotopes emit alpha particles or electrons.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And those particles travel at such a great speed that when they strike surface, they ablate it. And it's similar to ion beam machining that's used in microelectronics, nanoelectronics. So some electron microscopes come with ion beam tool, or you take your samples and you can direct that ion beam to shave layers off, and you can, you know, make a gouge, you can peel a layer.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So it's a very well-known machining technique. So why? Maybe this advanced civilization used something similar, except could have been an ion beam, or could have been, you know, just a beam of particles emitted by a radioisotope.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And then if you are that advanced, maybe you can synthesize enough of this in a radioisotope to where you can machine something not, you know, microscopic, but, you know, something that you can actually hold in your hand. And if that is the case, I should be able to find, you know, markers of it. And that's why, you know, I borrowed a couple of your vases and, you know, analyzed them.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Because, you know, I'm hoping to find some markers of that. Be that in the form of residual gamma spectra, or in the form of decay products. that are left there, but that's, you know, what I'm thinking of. And I'm not saying, you know, this is how they were made, you know, it's a hypothesis I'm testing. And at the end of the day, am I able to say, well, I know I was wrong.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
This is not how it was made because I didn't find anything. But, but it's an interesting area for me to chase.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
22, yeah. 22, and then we scanned three modern artifacts, and then we had two scans from Olga Vdovin's vases. So is it 27 altogether?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, well, first of all, I want to thank you for scanning all of those, because that was a very high-quality data set. And, you know, science these days is about analyzing data. So you need lots of data to analyze. And the more data you have is better, and the higher quality data you have is even better.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And then you become critical. In science, you have to be critical because that's kind of the scientific process. You are critical about everything and about your own thoughts and line of thinking in the first place. Because if you're critical, you can have the discussion and you can uncover truth. But if you're not critical, well, you're never going to uncover anything new.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And I'm very grateful for you because you provided a large data set of very high quality data. Because we're talking about CAT scans, you know, which are far more precise than optical scans.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Right. And, you know, I'm not an expert on metrology, so take my words and it was a grain of salt. I just look at the data and I will comment from the standpoint of the data. So the CAT scan has a lot more points in it. I would say 10 times, 20 times more. So some vases that I analyzed, I had optical scans. So those took maybe a couple hours to crunch through.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
The vases that were scanned using CAT scanner took a day, day and a half, sometimes two days, because there were just a lot more data points. So resolution in terms of how many points per inch you get is obviously one advantage. The other advantage is, you know, resolving capacity of the instrument. So the resolution in terms of how small of a feature you can see.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And what's the certainty that you're seeing a small feature that is a true feature and not the artifact of imaging. And that's like a very important point that I want to dwell upon. So when you, let's say you take an optical scanner and you scan an object, I almost immediately will say that your scan is probably invalid, because you are assuming the instrument behaves in a certain way.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And in science, you can never make that assumption. And here's where calibration is important. And that's a point that I argue all the time, not just, you know, with amateurs, with scientists, because let's say I make this, you know, nutrient detector, somebody buys a nutrient detector from me, you know, they make a measurement and they say, you know, here,
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And I say, well, where is your calibration measurement? All right, you know, I made a good instrument. I sold you a good instrument. But how do you know that at that moment in time, when you're taking this measurement that you're going to stake a claim on, you know that the instrument is actually working? Because, you know, things happen. And it's like breathing.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
You know, everything breathes, breathes. Everything, you know, goes in and out of tolerance, of calibration. Noise creeps in. It's just, whenever you take an important measurement, the first thing you do, you take a calibration measurement.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So in case of the nutrient detector, you take a nutrient source, you capture this spectrum, you make sure it looks the way it is, and then, you know, you take your measurement, and that's how you know that the device worked. And then every once in a while, you repeat this calibration, especially, you know, when The measurement is important. You want to make sure, is the instrument still working?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Because they never do. And in the case of metrology, there are metrological standards. And that was the first thing that I did when we started this. I said, Matt, we need this metrological standard, because I don't care what instrument it is and what the lab is telling about themselves. I want to see a scan of a metrological standard.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
because that skin tells us two things, that the instrument is working, that's one thing, and it's also like a golden case to validate the analysis technique. Because if I take that scan, and this metrological standard is a bead, it was a ruby bead, I think two millimeters diameter or something like that, so rather small, but it was scanned and I was given, you know, this STL file.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So in my mind, scientist needs to be critical. Endlessly, relentlessly. So whenever you get a good result, you never pat yourself on the back and say, this is it, I've done it. So the first question you ask is how I could have gotten it in error. And you start digging and digging and digging. And after you dug long enough and didn't find a problem, then you can have reasonable
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So I crunched that file through the same algorithm, I crunched the vases, and I wanted to see, you know, am I going to recover the stated diameter of the bead? you know, which I did. And when I recover it, you know, what will be, you know, the difference between what I get and what was on the calibration certificate, and what was the actual measurement.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And all of that, you know, matched within the declared tolerances. And I, you know, disclosed that in the paper. You know, there was some deviation, and I used that deviation, saying, okay, well, this is the limit of the resolving ability, which was worse than what the instrument could do, but That's the algorithm.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
You crunch numbers, and there are rounding errors, and all of that adds up, and you lose some precision. But without that standard, I didn't know if the instrument worked, and I didn't know if my method worked. Because at the end of the day, you crunch your numbers long enough, all of those rounding errors add up, and you entirely lose definition. You entirely lose resolution.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So you take a vase, you scan it, So I don't know how precise it is. So what you need to do, you need to scan a metrological standard, you know, then scan the VAs, and then scan metrological standards periodically, you know, to make sure that, you know, your thing stays in calibration. And that was, you know, one of the things I discovered in some of the scans.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Some of the CAT scans had artifacts in them, looked like ripples. And, you know, when I look at it, I don't know whether it's like a genuine feature of the object, or whether it's like aliasing. You know, we're all familiar with aliasing. You know, when you watch a video, it becomes grainy, so that's aliasing. So was it aliasing, or was it something else?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So I talked to the technician, and yeah, sure enough, it was, you know, one of those things. It wasn't a genuine feature, it was an artifact. But, you know, because the... It was.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But it was, you know, rather small, unimportant, so I quit focusing on it. But because the metrological standard was scan, I was sure, you know, the rest of the scans, you know, were good and solid. And the resolving ability of CAD scanner is at least, you know, 10 times better than optical, optical instrument.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And I'm not qualified to discuss pros and cons and limitations of optical scanning, but it's pretty clear. You see more with x-rays. and you see smaller features with x-rays. And you're seeing the inside.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
That's supremely important. Because one of the things I've done in my analysis, I added the analysis of the inside, because we all agree it's far easier to work the outer surface. And you can fool maybe somebody, kind of like Olga Vdovina did by working on one of her vases meticulously. She achieved some remarkable precision. but she couldn't do the same for the inner surface.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yes.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
certainty that, you know, perchance you could be right just this one time. And to illustrate this, you know, with my own experience, in my recent work, I detected a flux of neutrons from my reactor, which was an Avell design. And it took me nearly a year to prove to myself that that flux was genuine.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, and before I answer, I would say, in my mind, the biggest drawback of CAT scanner is not so much the cost. It's not portable. So you cannot take it somewhere. You have to send the artifact there. But what I've done, I've taken the STL file, which is a 3D model. And because all of these vases are round, I figured the easiest way to analyze them is to cut them like you would cut like sausage.
Matt Beall Limitless
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And produce this horizontal. If the vase is upright, you cut it. across and you produce this round slices. And it's the easiest thing on earth is to see how round those slices are and how concentric they are. Because, you know, I spent some time thinking about, you know, quality metric, you know, can you derive? Because that's, I think, where I really would like to start.
Matt Beall Limitless
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So when you take a vase and you want to say it's a high quality or low quality, you know, what exactly do you mean, right? So you need to clarify what do you mean by quality. And on where you start, you define this quality metric. So what it is that you deem high quality versus low quality. And when I was picking this quality metric, it also... bears a lot on what you analyze.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And let's say, you know, these vases are smoothly polished. You can say, well, the quality of polishing could be one of it. Or, you know, there's a certain shape. You can say, well, the quality of following that shape could be the other. But these are not easy things to do. So to me, the easiest thing to do was, well, I see they're mostly round.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So if I cut them and get the circles, I could see how round these circles are and how concentric they are. And this is how I define my quality metric. I say, a high quality object would produce these highly round slices that are highly concentric. And a low-quality object would produce slices that are not so round, and they're not so well centered on one another. And that's, in a nutshell, it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I made it a little bit more elaborate than that, in the sense that I also look at outer surface and at inner surface. So we have two sets of circles, the outer circles and the inner circles. And maybe I'm forgetting something else. But in a nutshell, that's it, yes.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Sure, yeah. So what we're looking here at a draft of paper that I submitted to... The journal is called STAR, Science and Technology and Archaeology Research. So this paper is under review. I don't know whether it's going to be accepted or rejected, but I framed it as academically as I could. And basically here I say, look, I've developed this analytical technique.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
that can help date archaeological artifacts. If the object is round, you can apply this technique to an object to determine the quality of fashioning. And because different cultures or different historic periods involve different tools, you know, perchance you can establish that
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
you will get this different quality figures for objects made in different times or by different cultures, just because they use different fashioning or manufacturing techniques. And that's, you know, the main thesis of the paper. And I say, here is the method.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So I spent a year measuring the same thing over and over under different regimes and verifying different things about the data set I was capturing. It was tedious and meticulous work, but that's what you have to do in order to be sure. And few people have the stamina or you know, can stick long enough at it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And by the way, I tested this method on Matt Bell's collection of vases, which was also supplemented by three modern vases, and actually five modern vases, three that like gift shop type vases, and two that were handmade. just to show that we can tell them apart.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, onyx. Two onyx and one, I believe, was one. One's probably marble. Two were onyx. Yeah, so onyx is pretty hard. It's pretty close in hardness to granite. And when I watch videos on YouTube, I see people cutting onyx with... carbon steel cutters. So it's evidently machinable, but it's about the same hardness as granite. It's as hard or not too much softer.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, so maybe we can go... Yeah, well, I mean, here I just discussed the the background. So in archaeological science, people classify vases all the time. And, you know, Pietri classified them. And of course, I mentioned the pioneering work by Adam Young and Ben van Kerkwijk, because this is how I learned about the subject.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So I give them credit for discovering that some of these inner vases are finely made. And I say, okay, well, let me take a look at it. So here is the collection of Metz vases that I classified. S for spinner, V just for general type vase, and B for bowl type vase. So 22 objects from his collection are listed here. Some granite, some porphyry, and maybe one basalt.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, so those are three modern vases that I bought on eBay, like for 15 bucks, two onyx and one marble, and below are the two vases that Olga Vdovina made out in Russia manually.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, and I want to add a point about handles. So handles bother me a lot. Because they make analysis difficult, and I will return to it. But when you make a vase, you don't need a handle. And some of these vases are so small, handle is useless. So the reason that there are handles there is puzzling. And besides, most of those handles weren't originally drilled. They were drilled later.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So they're called lugs. And when I look at it, I say, well, I think those were like there to keep a vase in place somewhere. Like if I'm thinking about it as a machinery, maybe the vase was locked in place on those lugs and so it wouldn't shift. But I don't think it was like a handle for carrying or for aesthetic purposes, because as modern work shows, you don't need a handle.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
It looks better without a handle. It's far more difficult to make it with a handle. So why? Unless there was a technological reason for it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Because the holes are crooked, and I don't remember somebody... I'm citing information I heard from somebody else. Maybe it was in one of the Pietri's writings. But somewhere I read that there are plenty of these where handles weren't drilled through. And on every one I've seen, you know, the holes just don't match the quality of the rest of it. You know, they're pointing in different directions.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And besides, you know, what you're trying to do, you're trying to undermine your own achievement or your own discovery. And that's why a lot of, you know, papers or reports that are written, they're not worth reading is because a person is interested in a certain outcome, they achieve it, they describe it, and, you know, they publish it, be it in the form of a paper, blog, or video, whatever.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
They're crudely made.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah. So my, you know, my speculation is, you know, handle is a, is a latch type thing. And, we can... Okay, so that shows a STL scan of one of the vases, and it shows how I sliced it. Basically, it's organized upright for analysis, and I slice it horizontally.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, and I used it in a Matlab for my analysis. I used Matlab and MatGeom library for slicing. Yeah, so if you slice it, you get this concentric slices and some slices with a handle that I had to discard and I'll explain later. But here I talk about quality metric. So I used a least squares field, man, least squares fitting technique. So it's a common, It's a go-to technique in science.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
If you have a circle and you have points and you want to see how well those points fit on a circle, you use the least squares fitting technique. And what you get from it, so you get a radius and you get a center. That's the outcome of least squares fitting. And you also get this root mean square error that tells you how well the line or the points fit the circle.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So the smaller it is, the better the fit. So I measure, yeah, the radius and the deviation from the center, and that's the calibration standard, the bead that the EMS was so kind. Yeah, thanks, yes, to provide. So I ran it through the MATLAB code that I developed, and I was able to recover its stated radius within the error of 40,
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
four ten-thousandths of a millimeter, which is slightly worse than the resolving ability of the machine. But, you know, given all of the rounding errors and stuff, it's only two ten-thousandths of an inch. And that's how precise my analysis is. You know, I cannot see anything more precise than two two-thousandths of an inch.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
At least 200 hours, maybe even, you know, 400 by now. I've developed this analytical technique that can help date archaeological artifacts. Whatever was used to make it was not a primitive tool, a primitive technique.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
— Yeah, 0.2 thousandths, right. So if you get a number that's less, You still have to say, well, it's probably 0.2 because the algorithm is not resolving better. And these are a couple of vases. And I'm just blown away. I'm sitting here at Matt's lounge and I'm looking at these vases and I look at them. They all look fine.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
When I eyeball them, it's very hard for me to tell that some are well-made and some aren't well-made. In fact, I'm looking at them now and I say, wow, I cannot believe that the analysis showed that this is well-made, but that one isn't. Because when I look at them, they look fine. So when you look at the model, the model for a precise vase obviously looks better. It's more like symmetric.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And there is no, a very limited, you know, self-criticism. And that's what makes it of little value, because if you have checked the obvious things or less obvious things, how do we know you're not mistaken?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
but it's not that much better. Still, you know, when you have this rendering over an STL file, it's easier to see imperfections in shape because, you know, the colors are gone, you know, the shading is uniform, and you can say, yeah, I mean, that's more symmetric than the other. But, you know, those are just two examples of what I deem precise and imprecise.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And here are the points that I get from scans. On top is the precise ways, at the bottom is not so precise. And I did have to exclude the lugs, the lug handles. And because, and that's where I spent a lot of time on. Because when you cut through the handles, your slice is no longer circular and your analysis, you know, my analysis is invalidated.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And when you approach the handle, the quality of machining gets worse because where that handle meets the vase, you know, there is a ledge and it's not that well polished off. And initially I was just, you know, get rid of that manually. And then I started thinking, well, gee, you know, here's a typical example of a selection effect. You look at a data point, you don't like it, you discard it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So I spent a lot of time automating this process and I settled on an algorithm that worked like this. I discard every slice of an object. If the root mean square error is outside of the average by the factor of two. And I repeated this process, I think, two or three times.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And then that's uniform enough to where it get rid of all of the slices through handles and some of the messed up slices along the top and along the bottom. And without any human intervention. on all the vases. So the algorithm is applying the same set of criteria on, you know, which slices to discard from the analysis without, you know, me having a say in it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So I can say it's, you know, pretty objective, and somebody can implement a different algorithm, but there is no, like, selection error that arises from human factor. But that's what you need to do. You need to get rid of slices through handles, and some slices along the lip, because as it curves, and some slices at the bottom, you know, because bottom is... on some of these vases is not flat.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Here's another problem. So it's easy to analyze in a more or less cylindrical objects, but it's not easy to analyze rounded objects with this method. Because as object gets rounded, your slices become oblique. And oblique slices magnify areas disproportionately, kind of like, you know, shadows of a setting sun become elongated and everything becomes like grotesquely enlarged.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So you get the same thing when you have a rounded bottom vase and you're cutting it obliquely, you just get, you know, noisy, noisy results. Not because, you know, the vase is ill-made. It's just because, you know, the analysis is not suited for oblique cuts. So fortunately, this slice selection algorithm that I discussed in paper, in depth, takes care of that.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yes, I'm ultimately interested in the truth. I don't care what truth it is. I'm not vested in a particular outcome. But the search for truth makes it interesting to me. And the other thing I discovered about myself, and I didn't know that, I actually like measurements. I didn't know I would, but turns out I enjoy this, you know, meticulous measurements and systematic errors control.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So it discards all slices that are either noisy or going through handles. Yeah, we can go next. Oh, so this is a good scatter. The deviation from the center is the concentricity, right? So all this, I think this is for this vase that I'm holding. So the amazing part here is that the blue dots are the slices for the outer surface and the red dots are the slices for the inner surface.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And you see the horizontal axis is in thousands of an inch. And what we see is that the centers of the outer circles are concentric to within two ten thousands of an inch. And outer surface has, sorry, inner surface has slightly larger scatter. And even, you know, when you feel it to the finger, you see that the inner surface is not as well finished.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So what this tells me is whatever tool they used to do it, it was like perfectly rigid. And this thing, I assume it was rotated, because I don't see how else you could do it. It was rotated like perfectly axially. So the tool is perfectly rigid and rotation is perfectly axial, like in a chuck of a modern lathe.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
to where even though you can feel it, but each slice is still perfectly concentric, you know, better than one thousandth of an inch. That was pretty amazing. And this is like the most precise vase in the collection, according to my analysis. So that was pretty mind blowing to me. So what else is there? Yeah, and this is a less precise vase. It's the other vase that we saw for comparison.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, and you can see that the concentricity was all over the place. It's like 20 thousandths, 40 thousandths. It's almost... hundred times worse, you know, than for this. But, you know, visually you look at it, it doesn't look that different. But, you know, once you put this slices under the magnifying glass, you see.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So the bottom plot there shows you kind of like if you shoot at the target, right? You know, where your bullets land. Those are the centers of all the inner and outer slices for the precise vase. And you can see they're, you know, pretty well aligned, you know, like amazingly well aligned. Whereas for the other vase, they're not nearly as well aligned. Yeah, you know, that's for the other ways.
Matt Beall Limitless
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So you can see when they were machining the outer surface and the inner surface, there was a drift, like systematic drift on the tool. So what are the blue and orange lines here? So the blue line is the centers of the circles of the outer surface, and red is the centers of the circles of the inner surface. So when they were machining it, either, you know, the tool was turning,
Matt Beall Limitless
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or the bit was drifting. So there is systematic motion to it. And you can trace that motion because you got two lines. Whereas for this, there wasn't the systematic motion. So you got this just scatter. And that scatter was so tightly picked, if you overlay it on top of it, it would be just a dot. Because, you know, they were different scales. So this is like tenth of an inch, right?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And I think because there's beauty in it. Like art is beautiful. Math is beautiful. All measurements are also beautiful if they're done right. And I see that. And I think that's why I enjoy measuring the same thing over and over again, because then it gets more and more perfect. You know, your errors go down and
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And the other plot was, you know, thousands of an inch.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So the drift here is, you know, one-tenth of an inch. So compare that to ten... to 10,000, so it's 100 times worse in terms of precision.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Potentially, yes. That's what it looks to me, but... Once again, I cannot be sure unless you analyze a bunch of them and they can say, ah, you know, if you make this vases, you know, this is the pattern that you get. But because there is a pattern, you know, I tend to think that there was a path to it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And in all probability, you would get it even, you know, with a manual tool, if you turn it manually.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
It should break, yeah. I see your logic, yeah. So it's consistent with that idea, yeah. So it was done in one pass without clear resetting of the tool because the line isn't broken. Yeah, what you see is systematic drift. So as you were, you know, hollowing it out, you know, you were just shifting.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
It's, you know, when my lovely wife paints, sometimes when she paints something over and over, it tends to slide because, you know, that's what happens to us. You know, you think it's close, You put an X stroke, but it's not quite at the same place. You put the next stroke, and the thing drifts.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And every so often, she comes to me and say, curse this eye I was painting for so long, and now it's in a different place. And that's what we see here, you know. It's just what happens. Yeah, it's another vase, just for example, the other vase. It's not quite as precise as this one, but it's still pretty amazing.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So we have six, ten thousands of an inch centering error for the outer surface and little worse than, you know, one thousand of an inch for the inner surface. So it's on par, you know, with this vase, but I would say maybe like two times worse, roughly.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
That was the main conclusion. So this is scatterplot on the horizontal axis. We have, I believe, the... So the vertical axis is the deviation from the center. It's the concentricity error. Yes. And the horizontal axis is the circularity error. it's a two-dimensional plot. We have circularity error horizontally and concentricity error vertically. And this is a logarithmic plot.
Matt Beall Limitless
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Logarithmic means it's not linear. Because it was linear, we would have just two dots in it. And because if we had two dots, we cannot see the points through individual vases, I chose a logarithmic plot. And a lot of scientists do it when you have data that's very different in size. You cannot fit it like on one page comfortably.
Matt Beall Limitless
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And I think this is good because green vases here are what, you know, I deem precise, and I'll explain why. And blue is what I deem imprecise. And you can see that the red dots are the vases that are made by Olga. They fall into the imprecise class. versus orange dots are the contemporary machine made in a vases that fall in the precise class.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And on this particular chart, I just show a broad grouping. That's out of all vases that I analyzed, just looking at this two particular subsets of quality metric, how concentric the slices are and how circular they are. You have two blobs, you know, two distinct blobs. One is I call precise and the other I call imprecise.
Matt Beall Limitless
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It doesn't because it's a logarithmic algorithm.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
At least 200 hours, maybe even 400 by now. It really went fast because I got so interested in it. And literally I would get up in the morning and before I have my coffee and just wearing my boxers, I would run to the computer and rerun my MATLAB scripts to see, you know, what results I've gotten. And I was spending all time I had. At one point I had three...
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I would say 10 times.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And you can actually see it here from numbers. You see the sort of the center of the bottom ellipse is one on the left, and the center of the upper circle is 10. So that's how far apart they are about 10 times. And the same true about the horizontal axis.
Matt Beall Limitless
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So the next plot is just a summary of the quality metric. So on the previous plot, there were like two subsets of the quality metrics. It's concentricity and circularity of the outer surface. So this particular chart is more of a comprehensive quality metric that also includes the inner surface. So it's concentricity and circularity of both inner and outer.
Matt Beall Limitless
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And also the error of the, let's say, the inner surface relative to the outer surface. Because you can have both of them, you know, perfectly, but if you hollowed out your vase incorrectly, then there will be an offset. And of course, that's a telltale mark of a manual labor. You know, when you hollow something out, how do you know where the center is? You know, you eyeball it.
Matt Beall Limitless
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So chances of you hollowing out something, let's say it was a 10 micron precision, and that's what, you know, half a thousandth of an inch, it's 10, you know, 12 microns. Chances of you doing that, you know, next to nothing, right? And much less on a bunch of artifacts. So this particular plot includes, you know, all of this consideration. So it magnifies the gap between quality classes even more.
Matt Beall Limitless
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And this is where I draw the line. You know, I just draw the line arbitrarily, say, you know, the quality metric of 25 is of my choosing, you know, the boundary between the precise versus the imprecise class. And below that, all of the, half of the vases that I analyzed from your collection, and the one I'm holding here, and three of the modern artifacts.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And above it, the other half of the vases from your collection and two of the handmade artifacts. And what this chart alone tells me is, according to the analysis method that I chose, Half objects in your collection are perfectly consistent with handmade vases.
Matt Beall Limitless
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Handmade vases by a good artisan that put in their time and hollowed out everything nicely and made it, you know, smooth and polished and it looks pretty to the eye. But the numbers clearly show it. It's not perfectly round. It's not perfectly concentric. it's hollowed out, not perfectly either.
Matt Beall Limitless
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And those are, you know, the Olga's vases, the two red bars are entirely consistent with the other blue bars. Yet in this subset, we have this green bars. meaning very round slices, very highly concentric. The outer surface is highly concentric on the inner surface, which means it's been hollowed out nearly perfectly.
Matt Beall Limitless
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And how you can do this without using some kind of measurement tool, I have no idea. And those are consistent, you know, with machining. The three orange vases are modern vases that we know were made on the lathe, you know, because when you watch, you know, these videos, they showcase this, you know, Pakistani, Bangladeshi,
Matt Beall Limitless
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shops where they... It's a primitive lace, but it's a mechanical lace nonetheless, right? So it has a motor, has a chuck. So this thing goes into the chuck and then, you know, the drill bit or the tool bit is secured on a table and they, you know, move it by turning the knob. Or sometimes actually hold the cutter.
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So sometimes they hold the cutter and they still, you know, get pretty decent quality. But Not only these green bars are consistent with machining, they are somewhat better. And few of them like V4 or V18 are like 10 times better in quality than this run-of-the-mill machined. Which means if they were machined, they were machined
Matt Beall Limitless
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or four, actually four computers, you know, crunching through the numbers in parallel, because it was taking sometimes a day or a day and a half to crunch this 3D scan, because it was just so high resolution. And I couldn't wait, so I had four computers crunching. Yeah, and a pretty good ones. One is like Core i9, you know, latest and greatest, you know, the fastest.
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with extraordinary care, not just, you know, quickly, we need to make a $10, you know, give thing. You can hold the cutter by hand because no time to do it, but it was done, you know, with some extreme care, but it's consistent with machining. I cannot say it was machined. I can say it's consistent with machining and it's consistent with high quality machining.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I mean, if it was done some other way, you know, perhaps, but That's all I can conclude from this analysis. What else do we have there?
Matt Beall Limitless
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Well, I would say, proper way of phrasing it, the quality of their fashioning is consistent with machining. So I cannot say they were machined, but I would say the quality of fashioning is consistent with machining, yes. Whereas the other one is quality of fashioning is consistent with manual labor.
Matt Beall Limitless
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And I think it's a defensible statement, you know, given the data that I presented.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I rather doubt that because, you know, that's not Olga's result. You know, she tried and her objective was to disprove.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And she tried. She tried very hard. and her bars are no, you know, was it 100 times worse? Yeah, 100 times worse than V4 and V18. So, you know, based of this, I mean, it's not a very large sample.
Matt Beall Limitless
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50, 60 times worse, right, and she tried very hard. So based on this, you know, limited sample, I would say no, right?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Obviously, you know, if you had 100 manual ones, you would have a better sample, but we had only two.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Some advanced manufacturing. I would say it would be fair to say... Whatever was used to make it was not a primitive tool or primitive technique. Definitely not a handheld tool.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Because you're not going to get to 12 microns with a stick and a rock.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And you will not get the quality of inner versus outer better. I couldn't resolve it, basically. It was aligned better than the resolving method of my number crunching ability. that went to the limitations of the scanner.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I bought specifically very fast, the fastest laptop I could find to crunch the numbers. So it was supremely exciting and I don't know why. I mean, some things are hard to explain. It's just really hooked me. Well, I guess number crunching, I'm partial to number crunching. I'm partial to measurements. It's kind of part of my DNA.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Right. And that's, you know, I kind of touch on that point obliquely in my paper. It's not my expertise to determine the veracity of an artifact. I have no idea how to examine the provenances and argue, you know, this is real artifact or a forged one. But I make a point that you can use this technique to tell things apart. So, like you mentioned.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So you're entirely right. So a skeptic looking at this chart would exactly say, just like you said, well, it proves, you know, those were made on a lathe and therefore they are modern. Yeah. Or somebody else like Graham Hancock would argue the other point and say, well, it means there was another civilization before ours.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yes, yes, I'm working on a nuclear reactor, yes. That's pretty cool. Yeah, I published my results last May in a Nature Scientific Report, so that's the neutron flux I mentioned. So that's, you know, one of my interests.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So I just want to clarify what you were saying.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
basically in these ancient artifacts, ancient vases, there are two types, maybe more than two classes. If we get to analyze 100 of them, maybe we'll discover they fall. And that's kind of expounding on my hypothesis. I think if you analyze 100 or 200 or 1,000, we'll discover different clusters of quality. And I think we can use those to date or attribute view objects.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Because somebody was better, somebody was worse, somebody had more advanced tools. But because this analytical technique allows you to gauge the quality objectively, vases made by the same people or at a certain time would tend to cluster and form specific blots on the 2D map or specific heights on this chart. So you'll be able to tell when it was made or by whom if you have more of this.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But regardless, when you look at them, we see two distinct types. And some are consistent with manual and some are consistent with advanced technology. We just... Don't know whether those are, you know, genuinely old or forgeries, like you're saying. But if you go to a museum and pick a vase, maybe it was made by a stick and hand. You know, we just don't know because eyeballing it is not enough.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And, you know, I was so wrong by eyeballing new objects and we're sure that it was precise or imprecise. But when you crunch the numbers, numbers don't lie. So you can use this technique to tell whether a particular artifact was made using hand tools or was made using some, you know, advanced, you know, machining techniques. That's, you know, what the outcome of this paper is about. You can tell.
Matt Beall Limitless
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Working primarily from home. And then for a while, I thought about getting a space or renting or buying a space. And I almost did. But before I did, I realized, well, then I have to drive to work. Yeah. And I'm very fortunate to have a sweet, loving, and caring wife, Veronica. Winters, who puts up with me, because she permitted me to turn our house into, basically into a lab.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And you cannot put calipers on the inner surface.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And some of them, yeah, like Olga's face had a very precise outer surface. because she cheated a little bit. She did cheat, yeah. How did she cheat? She used a modern porter's wheel that's supported by a ball bearing. So technically it's the precision instrument, an example of high technology. And it showed immediately. because she was able to turn her vase and use the marker.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
There's a picture, actually, of that to see if there was a deviation from, you know, a bump, let's say, on the surface. And then she would polish it away. But it's possible only if you have a ball bearing supported port as well.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Well, sharpies, you can use chalk. But they didn't have ball bearings. So if you used just a wooden potter's wheel, there would be play and run out. And you wouldn't be able to rotate it as precise as you can on the ball bearing.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
That doesn't bother me. I mean, what bothers me is the ball bearing, right? So if you just have a hole with a stick through it, they run out and it is going to be huge. So you will not have any kind of precise rotation. So a sharpie or a chalk or a pencil is not going to help you because it's just going to wobble.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Right, right. Because her inner surface wasn't precise and her core wasn't precise. But if we use just the outer surface alone, I think her artifact would have made the precise class. If we just went and calipers on the outer surface alone, I think she would have made it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And that's what they kind of showed when they went to Pushkin Museum in Moscow and picked another vase that was, you know, Egyptian. But that was worse quality in terms of the outer surface, because Egyptians didn't have a ball bearing potter's wheel. But yeah, based on that one criteria, the cheating would have been successful.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But because I supplemented the quality metric with the inner surface and how how perfectly it was scored out, it clearly doesn't fall into the same category.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yes, you're looking at an optical image, a high-resolution photograph of this dolerite vase, and you can see the markings on the inner surface that are consistent with lathing. You know, to me, that's pretty clear. You know, this vase has been turned on the inside. Because I'm not sure what else could leave these marks. But, you know, I'm no expert, so I don't pretend to draw a conclusion.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But visual examination, to me, is consistent with lathe marks.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And this is the most precise vase in your collection. The one with 12 micron precision or better.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So the first thing you see when you walk into our house now is a germanium detector with a liquid nitrogen tank. So you stumble over that, and you get into the living room that has two big electron microscopes. in it. And two smaller ones that I'm trying to repair. And then, so it's four electron microscopes at this moment. So the fifth one I sold, fortunately. And then you go to my lab and
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Right. Even the vases that were polished on the inside, under sufficient magnification, you could still see similar marks that were not completely polished away. Right. If I was in academia, or if someone was in academia, you could make a nice paper, like a separate study. You just take pictures on the inside of these vases, and you take pictures on the inside of vases that were turned on a lathe.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
You compare them, and you say, yeah, this is... consistent with turning on a lathe, and you can take pictures of vases that were, you know, handmade, you know, like Olga's vase or maybe some other vases, and you can say, yeah, this is not consistent with that. And then that, how you can also classify some of this and say, some were turned and some weren't.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And now that I'm looking at it, actually it's possible, given the CAT scan that you made, it's actually possible to unroll the inner surface into a sheet and extract the grooves. Oh, we got to do that. And see how... It will take in a little bit of coding, but it's possible to do, because the information is there. You just need to unroll the surface. And then you'll have a map and see how this...
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
You'll be able to see if there is like a single groove, for example. Is there a single uninterrupted groove that's kind of like on a record player?
Matt Beall Limitless
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Or is there a series of them or how they... It's possible to do that.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, you're right. So superficially it's consistent with manual control of the tool.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
There's the— Yeah, that's the porter's wheel, which is a contemporary piece of technology because, as I said, it's ball-bearing supported. So if she wanted to be entirely true to her cause,
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
her potter's wheel should have been consistent with what they used in ancient Egyptian time, meaning either clay-based or wood-based, stick-supported as opposed to ball bearing, because that's how she was able to achieve the remarkable accuracy of her outer surface.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Well, I think what she was doing, she was marking the high spots. So she would turn it, mark the high spot, and then she would polish them away. And then she repeated.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So it's like temporary marking.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, but this is how she achieved this remarkable precision of her outer surface.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But it doesn't mean it was achievable in ancient times, as I said, because there was no ball bearing supported turntable. Right.
Matt Beall Limitless
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Ball bearing supported. Porter's wheel is a piece of high technology. Right. Because it's straight. So the table itself is straight and rigid, which if you do it out of wood, it will be all curved. If you do it out of clay, it will be curved. And in a ball bearing, of course, you know. That's a 20th century technology.
Matt Beall Limitless
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Another, like, three or four germanium detector, you know, 300-pound lead shield, that nuclear reactor I mentioned, high-voltage power supplies, vacuum system, turbo-molecular pump... all sorts of vacuum gauges, vacuum feedings, gas analyzers, particle size analyzers, gamma detectors, neutron detectors. And you go to my other rooms,
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So I would put the thesis of this work is this. I've developed a numerical analysis technique that is applicable to round or cylindrical artefacts. And it involves a 3D scan of this artifact that you slice into circular slices and you determine how round and how concentric those slices are. And out of how round and how concentric those slices are, you build the quality metric.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
That's basically a sum of roundness and concentricity of outer and inner surfaces, and how these surfaces are concentric, you know, between each other. So you add all of those up and you get a number. And then once you have a scans of a bunch of objects and you apply this algorithm to every one of them, you get a distribution.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And it turned out that in objects that I analyzed, which were 22 objects from your collection, from Matt Bell's collection, three modern objects made on a lathe, and two manually made objects by Olga Vdovina, it turned out that they all fall into two very distinct categories, and I called them precise class and imprecise class.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And imprecise class is entirely consistent with manual labor using stones and stick. And all Gavdovina's vases fall squarely into that category. And 11 artifacts from your collection are consistent with machining technology as being, you know, turned on a lathe. So three modern artifacts fall into that category. And some of your vases, like this dolerite vase and and one of the granite vases.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And I'm 10 times more precise in terms of this quality metric than the contemporary lathe-made, you know, gift shop artifacts. You know, granted, gift shop artifacts aren't, you know, the highest quality objects. So it's, I will not say it's impossible to make it. You know, maybe with enough care by a good artist, you can achieve the same degree of quality. So who knows?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
The conclusion is you can use this technique to classify these objects. I cannot say whether it's a modern forgery or genuine. All I can say is you can tell them apart. And then somebody else needs to argue, you know, based on provenance of where these objects were found, if they were, you know, genuine Egyptian artifact or a contemporary forgery. But either way, it's a useful technique.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
You're able to tell one from another, and also, If we apply, you know, the same analysis to a piece from a museum collection, let's say, you know, a Petri collection or Cairo Museum or some other, you know, British museum, and they fall into the precise category, it becomes harder to ignore the fact that maybe, you know, we don't know something about ancient history.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Because, you know, the fashioning of this is... inconsistent with manual labor. Therefore, either there was high technology available back then that we're not aware of, or they were not made by the people we think they were made. But regardless, I am proud of the technique that I developed, because I believe it can be applied to a broad range of artifacts.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Because different culture and different fashioning method would bear a different distinct mark. And let's say if you have a hundred or a thousand vases and you analyze them all, they will group into distinct categories in this, you know, quality space. And I expect objects made by the same people, objects made at the same time, to bunch together.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Because if it's, you know, the same group of people were making, you know, the quality would be consistent. Or as time goes, you know, fashion and quality improves. So clearly, you know, with time we expect to see, you know, more and more precise objects appear as, you know, stone working improves as new tools come in.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So I think, you know, broadly for archaeological or scientific community, this technique could be used to help attribute and date objects. So especially, you know, once we gather more information and we start seeing, you know, what other islands of quality factors start to appear.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And then when you have an unknown artifact, based on where it fits on the chart, you can say, oh, it was made probably by so-and-so in such-and-such, you know, period in time. And I think this is where the true value of this method is, you know, beyond just purely, you know, pro-dynastic Egyptian stone vessels.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And on every surface, there is something in various stages of assembly, disassembly, repair or disrepair, depending on what I do. And sometimes I get carried away. If there is something cheap, I buy it. And then I realize, oh, shit, I need to repair it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
You know, with these hard stones, you know, copper is useless. And you really need other stones to cut it. So I know, you know, a lot of people who listen to this may say, oh, this is all bullshit. And the pseudoscience, well, it's pseudoscience unless you apply scientific technique to it. And then it becomes real science.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yes. So I believe that there is a problem with academic science that has been discussed recently, that when scientists become like a career scientist, they lose track of Objectivity. Yeah, objectivity of, you know, curiosity. Even Einstein said that, you know, get a cobbler's job because, you know, a discovery is too much to expect from a scientist.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So get a cobbler's job and you can always, you know, pursue your passion, you know, vocationally. And, you know, granted it's not easy and it requires means because, you know, scientific equipment is expensive, you know, time is expensive. But at the same time, you know, when you're motivated by curiosity, you get somewhere. You know, that's how I feel.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And that's why I chose the path that I'm on to where I work by myself. And I explore, you know, the topics that interest me, regardless of Whether it's practical or useful, I don't know what this is useful for, right? I just feel it's interesting.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Because a lot of things we're taught or we hear and we take for granted, they don't make sense to me. And I refuse to buy them. And if I can formulate my own opinion, I might as well.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, there are several steps I would like to take that are, you know, interesting. You know, directly continuing this work that I've done, clearly looking at some of the other artifacts from museum collections would be very helpful. Specifically, I've heard that Adam Young and, you know, Carol Ipoka went and scanned a bunch of artifacts from the Petri Museum.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So I'd be very, very curious to run those scans through my software in MATLAB and see, you know, how these objects fare, how do they classify, which category they fit. Or, you know, just going and scanning some of those objects is also a possibility.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And then I start repairing it and sometimes it doesn't go the way I want, but because I already paid money for it, I'm too cheap to throw it away. So Veronica told me, quit doing that stuff and focus more on research. And that's what I'm trying. to switch towards because I was really carried away with all of the repair and refurbishing work that I'm doing.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So I guess that's one of the things I would like to do, to subject a larger set of objects from known collections, you know, with unquestionable prominence where everybody agrees when they were and how they were found and what, you know, archaeological context
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I have reached out to Adam. I haven't heard much from him about that. Carolee, I think, is writing on his own paper, so I think he's going to maybe share stuff when he's done. Okay. Just wait patiently.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, and that's why I'm excited about, you know, this methodology that I developed. It allows classifying objects and then it's up to the researchers to decide what to make of the classification, because that's the job of classification, to bunch objects together in groups. And then, you know, archaeologists would come in and say, okay, well, this group means this, this group means that.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And then, you know, you know how to date and attribute stuff and also, you know, sort out the forgeries. But continuing kind of on this line of thought, what really, I think, made me interested in the vases, you know, ancient technology aside, is the nuclear aspect to it. Because I'm a nuclear scientist, you know, I have a nuclear reactor at my home.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And when I learned about these artifacts, I thought, well, maybe, assuming this was some unknown ancient technology, why not? You know, we all like sci-fi. We can fantasize that there was some... Atlantean alien, you know, I don't really care. It's unimportant.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But what is important is if there was a high civilization, they probably didn't use cutters and chisels, the same tools we think of when we fashion something. And people, creative people thought, well, you know, what if they were molding this somehow, this technology where the stone was softened. And then, you know, you can mold it, maybe stamp it like it was plastic.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Well, that's a great idea, right? So how do we test for it? I don't know. But the idea that came to my head is what if they used nuclear machining technology using radioisotopes? And then radioisotopes would either strip, you know, layers of stone like ion beams do in modern microelectronics equipment.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Or perchance maybe this, let's say beta particles, when you saturate a material with beta particles, maybe material becomes more pliable and becomes more fluid. And then you can use ordinary cutter to shape it, but it's no longer hard rock. It's now like a semi-plastic thing because it's like saturated with electrons basically.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Those are the two hypotheses that I found extremely interesting because of my personal interest in nuclear science. That's why I borrowed, you know, a couple of your vases and I stuck them in my germanium detector and maybe we can see a picture of it. Yeah, so that's a massive ton and a half lead shield. that I used to screen the object from background radiation.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But it's like your vases are your babies. This is a typical equipment that I make and repair are my babies too. Once I bought it, I feel like, well, I need to restore it. And even though it was a tangent, now it's like a main road. And I do agree with her that I need to put some of that aside and make some more time for what I should really be doing.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And below it, you see a dewar with liquid nitrogen. And on below is a picture of one of matte vases inside that lead shield. And that piece is sitting on top of the germanium detector. So that germanium detector is submerged partly in that liquid nitrogen dewar for cooling. And then I was capturing gamma spectrum from it. You know, we're surrounded by background radiation.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Everything on this planet emits gammas or x-rays at some, you know, minuscule level, but there is a signature of it anyway. And you can tell one rock from another rock by looking at its gamma spectrum. And if we scroll down, we'll see, so those are the two phases that I mentioned. And I got a couple samples of rocks, and those are the spectra that I captured. So I wanted to see if... Of the vases?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Of the vases, right. If I just registered the emission, the invisible rays that these vases emit, would it look remarkable? Would there be anything unusual about it? And this is a spectrum, and it has peaks. And peaks are definite energies that mean something, you know, to geologists or to nuclear scientists.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But when I, let's say, captured a spectrum of one of the vases, of the dolerite vase, I didn't know what it should look like. So what I did, I bought a dolerite rock off eBay, mineral collector's item. And I took a spectrum of that rock also, and I superimposed one on top of another. And I see they're consistent.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So there are no new peaks. All peaks are the same. which was a little bit of a bummer.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yes. The red peaks are from the rock and the blue peaks are from the vase. So you see all peaks match. There's some of a slightly different height, which means the rock had more of some minerals, maybe some uranium and some thorium and some bithymus than the vase, but nonetheless, it's the same composition. And if we scroll down a little bit, there is another chart. Yeah, that's for the other one.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
That's for the granite. And they're also more or less the same. And I bought a piece of Aswan granite from eBay also to compare. That's the kind of point I was making throughout this talk. All scientific analysis is comparative. So if you take a spectrum of anything, Very rarely you can say if it's remarkable or not unless you can contrast it against something else.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And in this case I was contrasting the spectrum of the vase against the spectrum of the rock. And my hope was that if the vase was machined using nuclear technique, there would be trace radioactivity from those isotopes used that I'll be able to detect. Well, so far I haven't detected it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But, you know, I'm very interested in looking at some of the other vases in your collection, particularly at the basalt vases, because, you know, who knows, maybe I'll spot something there. But that's not it in the sense, you know, does the nuclear analysis stop here?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Because chances are, if the nuclear machining technique was used, the isotopes used would be short-lived, meaning they would decay in six months, in a few years. So assuming that these artifacts are ancient, ancient, none of those would be present because of the half-life. It will be all, you know, pretty much decay to background, so you wouldn't expect to find anything.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So, but in this case, it's possible to look for decay products. And decay products will be bithymus or lead or some other elements. Basically, for every radioactive isotope that we know of, there is a very well-known decay chain. with lead or bismuth or something else of that sort at the end.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So if I subject, let's say, these vases to a micro analysis using XRF, which is an X-ray fluorescence technique, or micro analysis using energy dispersive spectroscopy in a electron microscope, you know, perhaps I can detect traces of the elements that could have been the decay products of those radioactive isotopes used for nuclear machining. And that would prove the hypothesis.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
The challenge, however, is in the shape of these artifacts. You see, both XRF and EDS microanalysis techniques work, I want to say best, but I should probably say primarily, if not exclusively, on flat objects. because the way it works, so here is your sample. Then you have a beam, be that electron beam or x-ray beam, and that beam reflects, and you have a detector at the side.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So the configuration is specific. You have your beam here, you have your detector here, and this surface is expected to be flat. And when it works that way, the data that you capture in the detector will tell you what elements are present there. And you can say, okay, well, I got, you know, 1% lead, you know, 90% iron and, you know, 7% silicon, you know, something like that.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But if your object is curved, or if you object like a vase, obviously you wanna look on the inside and it's like deep inside. It's impossible to shoot a beam in there to where it reflects back and hits the detector. And if you start messing with the geometry and I tried that, you know, because I'm a tinker, you know, If a standard book approach doesn't work, you tweak it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And what happens is you mess with the geometry. Like I have an x-ray, portable x-ray gun, like a small one, and I was shining it inside in one of your pots, and I was holding a detector to a side so it could capture some of the radiation that was coming in from the inside. But when that happens, because the beam bounces all over inside the pot,
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
The entire pot glows, and then part of that radiation strikes the detector and strikes the gun, and you pick up all the metals that are present in vicinity, all the metals that the detector is made of, all the metals that the gun is made of. And you don't know what to think of your result, because it's no longer these spots that you were trying to measure.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
It's like everything because of the geometry. And I haven't figured out a way to overcome it, except to maybe shift from trying to look at the complete object to look at pieces and at shards. And, you know, maybe with some luck, either I can get some flatter partial pieces from you or Ben, when Kirkwick was threatening to give me a few pieces for analysis.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So maybe I'll be able to spot something there. But at either rate, this technique involves getting the electron microscope operational, which is something I'm working on right now. So I bought a new electron microscope, finer from the other ones I've owned. But the way it goes, a new electron microscope is a quarter million dollars.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I cannot afford that, so I have to buy a broken decommissioned piece of equipment, fix it, And it takes a while, and it's a precision piece of machinery, so you cannot just fix it. So you need to call tech support, and you need to get professional help in calibrating everything, make sure everything is working to where the results of the microanalysis are trustworthy. So that's a difficult part.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
It's easy to make things work poorly. You get to that point quickly, right? But here, you know, we're doing science and we want to look at, you know, minor contaminants, you know, trace elements. So it takes an effort to get instrument to that level. But, you know, I'm on my way.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So I have a call scheduled with tech support and hopefully with their help, I'll be able to get microanalysis on my microscope working. Then I'll be in a good position to... I mean, working with a great degree of certainty, then I'll be in a good position to study, you know, flat objects. And maybe I'll discover some contaminants, or maybe not.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But I'm also, as I said, I'm also interested in picking up, you know, a couple more artifacts from you and maybe studying them in that gamma detector. See, maybe there will be some radiation there too.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
An important qualification. But this is, I guess, the most exciting part to me. When I read research about Egyptian temples and Egyptian pyramids and sarcophagi and sites, I find very little mention of radiation studies. And this is what I'm very interested and capable of doing. I have portable spectrometers, let's say, that I can take and I can collect radiation background.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And I can see whether, let's say, a sarcophagus or something else has an unusual signature to it. And all of that could be recorded and analyzed.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And it's also possible to do a superficial microanalysis in situ to where you have like a portable XRF gun that you can put, let's say to a granite block or to a stone or to a chip that you find on the ground, collect all of that information, analyze later and look for anomalies.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And that's what I'm very interested in doing, giving an opportunity, basically go on site and collect some radiological data on site that may not support the nuclear machine hypothesis. Who knows? I must be prepared to give up my pet theory. But who knows? Maybe I'll find something else. There was also something new I recently learned. which blew my mind.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
You know that everybody knows that carbon dating is not 100% reliable because there are cosmic events that happen regularly, like supernova explosions that send a bunch of radiation towards Earth, and that greatly changes the balance of radiocarbon in atmosphere.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, for a brief period of time. And I was reading a scientific paper on this subject where a geologist slash nuclear scientist was arguing that a number of such events took place. And he was able to corroborate those conclusions by looking at the surface of some of the rocks.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And I didn't know this, but it turns out that when this radiation hits Earth, it generates enough charged particles that not only change the isotope ratio for radiocarbon, but they also leave marks on the surface of stones. And he was able to tell which rocks that were exposed to this sudden flux of radiation changed and how they were changed.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, and I didn't know that was possible, so it blew my mind and I became very interested in studying the effects of radiation on the surface. Evidently, there is a great body of work there already, so people know what happens to the surface.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And I could just, you know, learn this technique and start applying it, you know, to your artifacts or some other artifacts that we find, see if there is anything on the surface that's, you know, micro-features, you know, would be consistent with anomalous flux of radiation. For example, these basalt artifacts that you have, or basalt artifacts at Petri Museum,
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
They all look to me like they were exposed to some extreme heat. And of course, you know, we know extreme heat happens in nuclear reactors, but it also happens in other places. I'm not saying it's of nuclear origin, but if it was of nuclear origin, you would see plenty of evidence of it on the surface.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And this is something I wasn't aware of until like two weeks ago when I came across this paper and I said, you know, Degner, but that's, you know, interesting subject to research. And that's, you know, what you can use the electron microscope for. And maybe, you know, some other techniques, but I need to do a lot of learning, you know, because this is new.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But, you know, that's what makes it exciting. Because, you know, who knows? It would be interesting to be able to discover new technology that was lost in the past, or just having, you know, the quest for this new technology to advance our knowledge. Because I think that's what happens when you follow your curiosity.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
You never know what you learn in the moment, you know, how it forms a whole picture, you know, later in the process in some, you know, mysterious way. And I guess that's what makes it exciting.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I see where you're going with this.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
It could be a dating technique.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Or assist in dating.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Because supernova events are recorded in... As I said, there is a bunch of scientific literature on the topic, and it's not a controversial topic. We know that cosmic events occur, and we know they change the radiocarbon balance in atmosphere. I didn't know that the rocks are impacted. That was new information. But if the rocks are impacted, then yeah.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Or let's say you go to a Sirion, right? It's made out of granite. And if you can detect these cosmic events on the walls, you can say, well, it's got to be a lot older than what we're said.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I would say the key finding was that there was nothing, I would say, remarkable about those shards in the sense that when I... proposed for Ben to bring them over, I was expecting to find bits and pieces of metal tools that were used to carve those.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
You've got to remind me about that too, because I forgot to look into it. I forgot the term.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, that would be amazing if we learned how to date. Even just granite. That could answer already a lot of questions.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Well, I have two thoughts on this question. And I'm glad you asked the question again because I remembered something. So first of all, we primarily use chemical energy right now. Gas, diesel, natural gases, you know, chemical energy. And we do use a great deal of nuclear energy also for power generation, power plants, aircraft carriers, you know, things like that.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And the more civilization becomes power-hungry, I think it's unavoidable. We're going to resort more and more to nuclear energy. And that's why right now there is this fusion craze. Because I think wrongfully conventional nuclear energy has been deemed bad. I don't agree with that at all. But regardless...
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
The reason everybody in scientific community believes that the nuclear energy is our future is because there is a million times more energy density per volume or per unit of mass in, let's say, nuclear power than in chemical power. And if you have a civilization that's anywhere higher than we are, that's what they ought to be using. Or something even more advanced that we cannot even think of.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But clearly they were not burning wood or coal. And most likely they're not using cutters like we're using now. Because if you've mastered nuclear technology, you need just one gram of fuel to fuel your car for your life. And you need a microgram of nuclear fuel to machine anything and cut through anything. You know, that's why I think it's plausible.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
The other thing where I think it's plausible, few people know this, but this is a very well-known fact. There is a natural nuclear reactor that's been discovered in Africa. I think in the 60s. I believe in Gabon. And it's called Oklo Natural Nuclear Reactor. And the way it was discovered, it was a French mining site where they were mining uranium.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And then the uranium was shipped back to France, and it's analyzed isotopically. Because, you know, when uranium is coming from the ground, it's ordinary, unenriched uranium. Most of it is not suitable for power generation. Only uranium-235 is, but it's, you know, a minor constituent. And that's what, you know, refining or enrichment is about.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So when French were analyzing the ore, they couldn't find, you know, uranium-235. And like, what the heck? So the alarm bells started coming on because they thought somebody was stealing weapons-grade material, because this ore must contain known amount of uranium-235, and it wasn't.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And earlier I mentioned that scientists shouldn't have like a pet idea, but the truth is, you know, whenever we start a scientific investigation, there is always a hypothesis. So you start with a hypothesis, but you shouldn't be like too attached to it. So my hypothesis was that those, or, you know, these metal stone vases were machined using metal tools.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So they conducted an investigation, and much to their shock, determined that the uranium in that site is different from uranium that's found everywhere else. So uranium everywhere else on the planet has a very well-established ratio of uranium-238 to 235. but not this site. And this site is depleted on 235 and otherwise enriched in 238. So the only, yes.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So the only explanation that they could come up with is that a nuclear reactor must have formed naturally and operated for many thousands of years, burning away all of this uranium-235 until it was gone. And when I hear this statement, you know, to me, it sounds as ridiculous as you walk throughout the desert and you find a perfectly formed Mercedes-Benz that formed there naturally.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So that's the same, you know, degree of ridiculousness to me. Because it's very difficult to maintain, you know, chain reaction for any meaningful period of time. Because they are saying, well, the circumstances were there just right where water was coming in and coming out, and this sustained, you know, this chain reaction for thousands of years. Right. I mean, I just don't believe it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Because it took Oak Ridge, you know, Tennessee, a bunch of national labs figuring out how to how to maintain chain reaction, you know, how to synthesize these isotopes, how to build the reactor, how to maintain it. So took hundreds of PhDs and millions of man hours of engineering, and we're building this, you know, complex contraptions.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And the difficulty there is, so you have this radioactive material, and if the reactor is tuned wrong, there will be no reaction. And if it's, like, overtuned, it will explode. So you're basically trying to balance this nuclear explosion on the razor edge, where it's seeping energy. And by seeping, I mean megawatts or gigawatts, not like a multi-terrawatt explosion, right?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But if you tune it the other way, the reaction dies off. And if it goes the other way, you have a Chernobyl. So it's very difficult to keep it operating in this very narrow range where neutrons are produced in just right amount. They're not absorbed. When each neutron strikes a uranium-235, it shatters and it produces more neutrons. That's what the chain reaction is.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So for that to have occur naturally by chance, All right, well, maybe once. But sustained for thousands of years to where all of that radioisotope burned out is just beyond credulity. So to me, it's far easier to believe that what we found was a remnant of an ancient nuclear power plant. That's, for me, easier to believe.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
It's less a stretch to assume that there was a civilization who mastered nuclear power and exploited it and now gone than just saying, well, it occurred naturally. Because, you know, I try different things in my lab on purpose and then nothing happens. Well, granted, they haven't tried, you know, for a billion of years.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But still, you know, this argument that if a monkey, you know, types on a typewriter and it will produce, you know, Leo Tolstoy's War and Peace is flawed. You know, it's a common argument that we hear sometimes that, you know, given enough monkey, enough typewriters, you get it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And because that's how we think of machining. You have a cutter or an end mill, and those are metal tools. So whenever you machine, Tools ablate, and they lose bits and pieces of the metal that gets wedged into the stone, and under the electron microscope you should be able to see that. And that's what I was expecting to see. And when we looked, the samples were remarkably clean.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But, you know, mathematicians and statisticians proved that that will not take, you know, all the time in universe for monkeys to type up, you know, Shakespeare or something else. You know, things just don't happen. So, I mean, that's why I think it's plausible.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And then there are some other things in Gabon also, like there is an airfield that basically Germans used and currently still used by the government. It's just been extended and nobody knows, you know, who's built it. They were just, you know, blocks arranged in a shape of an airfield. which was large enough to be an airfield. And they just extended it. They just paid a little bit more.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But nobody knows where it came to be, who built it, or why. Because it doesn't look like a temple. It looks like an airfield. And that's what it's used for now. And it's not far from Oklo. So it doesn't prove anything. Of course, I'm speculating. But to me, it's easier to believe this version of events.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Because it makes sense to me as a rational being, as an engineer, as a scientist, that we're not alone in the universe. So we're probably not the first intelligent beings in this world. It would be too much for us to think that we are the only ones or we are the first ones. There is too much self-aggrandization in that statement. So to me, I think George Lucas's picture of the world makes sense.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
There are many intelligent beings They all do something, so we are one of them. If we find the works of their technology, of course, they will look strange to us. Of course, you know, we'll try to find an explanation for it, but I think it's time, you know, we consider that as a possibility, especially in view of the development of technology now that, you know, we use space web telescopes.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
to look for traces of other civilizations. So I think this is not, you know, too far-fetched.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Probably.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Let's say billions of years ago.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah. But, you know, we need to take it with a grain of salt because it's the best explanation that for it to deplete all of its uranium, it should have been operating as a natural reactor, you know, for billions of years. Another explanation could have been, it's been like a conventional power plant, like a few thousand years ago that just, you know, burned all of its fuel.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Or maybe it's a fuel dump, you know, who knows? So they just... picked a model that would explain it, that went along with, you know, understanding of geology.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But, you know, you can pick another model, and I don't pretend to be an expert on nuclear reactors of that type.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, based on what I know and what it goes into building. I mean, look at Iran. They've been, you know, trying to produce a weapon for how long?
Matt Beall Limitless
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And they couldn't, you know, despite... their best efforts, it's difficult. And, you know, it took all of America's intellectual capacity organizing on their Oppenheimer and a bunch of national labs to do all of it. And hundreds of PhDs, thousands of people, and
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
it's a difficult process to maintain it's very for the chain reaction inside the reactor it's very easy either to turn into explosion and destroy the reactor or not go at all so it will either fizzle out or blow just keeping it going that's where the real trick is and then having it going like for thousands or hundreds of thousands of millions of years is just beyond credibility it's just um
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So it's ancient. I don't think it's like a few thousand years old.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
They were the cleanest samples I've ever seen, and that really struck me, because in my line of research I use electron microscopy a lot, in nuclear science I put my samples in it, and in my samples that come from my reactors from my experiments, I find all sorts of stuff. Like without trying, you know, all sorts of metals, all sorts of contamination.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I'm actually writing a book about this. It's a fictional book, but it kind of summarizes my thinking about it, because we know a lot about Sumerians. We know some about Egyptians. We are fascinated with this ancient alien theories. So I decided to put all of that into fiction. You know, how I think, you know, the events would unfold.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So about a few months ago I started writing a book that I called Order and Chaos. And it's about a race of extraterrestrials that live on a wandering planet. And we know that, you know, such planets exist. And I think their planet got caught on an orbit around our star, around sun. And they became captives of the solar system for a short period of time. And in fact, there is evidence of it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And it's been recently publicized in astronomical publications a lot, search for planet X. Because, you know, comets and asteroids in the solar system are organized in groups. And that organization is consistent with another planet going, you know, sweeping through the solar system and clearing the pass. And that orbit is consistent with the planet that has been captured temporarily.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Well, scientists think there's still a planet there they call Planet X they're looking for. It might be. You know, my thinking is there was this, you know, passing planet was captured temporarily and was orbiting sun for an extended period of time.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And I think the intelligent, you know, beings from that planet visited our world and established a base here for a while and left us with some of this inexplicable artifacts that we find. So maybe, you know, that nuclear reactor, if it was indeed a nuclear reactor, is there doing, or maybe some of the structures, ancient structures or pyramids, is there doing.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Maybe they are the gods that created humanity. But that's, you know, what my book is about. That's what I expound upon. That's what I speculate, that they were stuck here, and their job was to... unplug their planet from the tug of the sun and be on their way because it wasn't good for them to orbit. It was a free-floating planet. It's never meant to orbit anything.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And its orbit in the sun caused all sort of disruption out there. So they were stuck here in the solar system and on Earth trying to to be done with it, and in the process they might have created us. They might have been the gods we talk about in mythology or in holy scriptures, but I believe they left now because… You know, they succeeded at their mission.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
You know, they saved themselves and they're gone. And that's, you know, what I write my book about. And it's called Water and Chaos. And I created a website for it, waterandchaosbook.com. And I'm going to upload chapters there as I finish them. But it might take me, you know, a year to write it. But the vision of it all kind of came spontaneously right before I started doing this. Yes.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And the thing for me is, because I've looked so much at various samples through electron microscope, I know they're always contaminated. So whenever somebody comes in and says, oh, we have this unobtainium on the sample, I always say it's a contamination. But when I looked at these chips that Ben brought, they were like pristine, as if they were cleaned by plasma.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Not much there. I just posted the prologue, but I have a few more chapters that I'm going to add, yes. Cool, cool.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, I wrote a little bit of it before, I guess, I started this project. And maybe that's why this project, you know, was phases and became so fascinating because, you know, somehow it chimed with what I was thinking. And, you know, this, you know, Egyptian history is right there. And they have this winged disc. What else could it be? I don't think it's the sun.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I think it's this mysterious visitor that was orbiting us for a while.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I'm glad you brought it up. There are actually more mysteries to Russia that are known about in the West. So I'll start with the obvious, with St. Petersburg. So we're taught that it's not a very old city. You know, Peter the Great built it. Yet when you visit there, you are instantly struck with the amount of megalithic stonework.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And I'm not talking, you know, just the granite casing of the Neva River. I'm talking about megalithic columns of St. Isaac Cathedral. some obelisks, megalithic vases, megalithic fountains, and the so-called Gromstone, that's the statue of Peter the Great stands upon. How do you spell that? In Russia, it's G-R-O-M, and it means thunder. Yeah, that's the rock.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So according to the official history, this rock was brought, and that's just like a few thousand tons. This is a huge rock. It's like a miniature mountain. So the official history is telling us it was brought from Karelia, something of a hundred miles away, hauled through swamps without roads to St. Petersburg. And I'm thinking,
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
If Catherine the Great or whoever commissioned it, they were surely not that stupid to order such a job. Obviously, the legend was written to aggrandize the Tsar and Russia by attributing this feat to them. The empress commanded and the rock was brought. But it's just a stupid undertaking that I can never believe it being done.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
In modern days, that would be difficult, and much less 300 years ago, saw some peasants with horses and bare feet, 500 miles through Karelia and rocks and swamps, you know, really? I just don't believe it. And how much does it weigh? Several thousand tons. Oh my God.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Like, you know, how the heck is this possible? So I didn't find the... smoking gun of bits and pieces of cutters or end mills. But we did find a few metallic inclusions, like a piece of iron, and there was a small, like, you know, micron size, and piece of titanium, and something else I don't recall. But I cannot tell whether those are natural or artificial.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, it's just, and there are many things like that, you know, that's, and they're like in front of your face, but because you hear this official history all the time, you never doubt it until you're supposed to think. So there is a substantial community of Russian amateur historians, archaeologists that look into St. Petersburg anomalies, St.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Isaac Cathedral anomalies, because it's got huge columns, granite columns that are also like hundreds of tons each. So how would you transport them? And the question why is because you had unlimited funds and you wanted to spend all of your funds on making these huge columns when you had the rest of the cathedral to finish?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But also what stains credulity is Winter Palace and the other palaces there, the first floor is buried. So St. Petersburg is built on the swamp. So why would you bury the first floor along with all of the ornaments there and then make a makeshift entry between the first and second floors? That makes no sense, yeah. So you cannot even see the first floor.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
You can see just the little circles of what's left of it. But if you excavate, you see the columns going down. So the entire first floor is buried. Yeah, you just see little tiny semicircles. It doesn't make any sense. And there are a lot of towns like that in Russia where the first floor is underground entirely, like all over the place. So, you know, what happened that we're not told?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, stone buildings, yes. So, you know, it's consistent with Dulaj in recent time, but it's not mentioned like in any book. What happened that so much mud was deposited so quickly to where everybody had to dig inside? But it gets even more interesting than that. And if you go towards Siberia, you find mega earthworks, all sorts of earthen walls and dikes.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And in Siberia itself, you know, the taiga, the woods, it's crisscrossed in patches that are bold, devoid of forest, but it's squares. It's even squares as if, you know, somebody just lined through the woods. And its step is about a mile. It's not exactly a mile, but, you know, it's close. And somehow woods don't grow there.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So there's something down to the ground to where, you know, this grid remains. So it's unclear who's done it, why such an effort, you know, how it's possible. And it just, you know, keeps going. And it's like right in your face. And people now are researching it and asking questions.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And I'm glad that this is happening because, you know, there is just so much more out there that doesn't fit the narrative. But we don't know what it is. What are we to research if not that? Shouldn't science research what is really interesting, what is really exciting, what everybody wants to know answers for?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And that's one of those things that my father-in-law taught me when I was defending my dissertation. He said, dissertation needs to be boring. People must be asleep when you read it, because if they're excited and they wake up, you're not going to get your PhD. And I didn't believe him, but I followed his advice.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But when I moved to America and I considered pursuing a scientific career, of course I wanted to work on exciting stuff, so writing exciting papers. And I learned very quickly you cannot get those published, because my father-in-law was right. Science needs to be boring. But, you know, who needs boring science? You know, what public good is in boring stuff? So we need exciting stuff.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
We need science that answers interesting questions, that, you know, gives us something practical. So I know, you know, a lot of people who listen to this may say, oh, this is all bullshit and a pseudoscience. Well, it's pseudoscience unless you apply scientific technique to it, and then it becomes real science. Of course, if you
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, so I think we should be applying the best we know, the scientific method, to all of these questions and getting the answer. If Peter the Great built it, all right, great. But we could be a bit more critical. about just accepting, you know, what the textbooks tell us. You know, when we... Oh, there is another example. There is this famous building in St.
Matt Beall Limitless
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Petersburg where there are four titans holding the the cornice of a building. And they look... They're magnificent sculptures and they look identical. So someone took a handheld 3D scanner and scanned them. and then superimposed the scans. And the deviations are like fraction of a millimeter. And if you think, all right, well, this was a commissioned work. So somebody chiseled it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, those there. If somebody chiseled them, first of all, there is no need to make them identical. You want to give them personality, right? And then even if you try to make them identical, you won't be able to. but they are nearly identical because that's what that scan has revealed.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
One piece, you know, did look like jagged. So it could have been like a chip, but I just don't have enough information. And that's another thing I would want to emphasize as we talk about, you know, scientific method.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So, which means they were not chiseled, they were either cast or molded or it's something else that's made look like a stone, but it's a stone on the surface. What stone is that? I think it's granite. It looks like granite.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah. So, I mean, things that people walk by like daily.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Oh, heck, you know, in my hometown, I was born in Smolensk and I was walking to school through the fortress. And there was this earthwork next to this fortress that looked just like a mound to me. But recently I looked at this satellite picture and like, oh my God, this looks like a star-shaped fortress that, you know, from the ground you cannot see. But in these various, you know, hills,
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
When you look at them from the, you know, from a satellite or from a drone, you could see a fortress. But I never knew it was there. And I walked past it to school, like, every day. And these are the same things we're talking about. You know, we walk past them daily. We never question them. And then when we start questioning them, the narrative falls apart because it makes no sense, you know.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I think so. You know, the megalithic, uh, there's a, this megalithic bathtub, um, Nobody knows. I mean, they say it was made in the Urals and brought. And once again, you know, without the roads on horses, you know, how?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
The other thing that comes to mind, and this is not controversial. So they found ruins of cities in Siberia. And one of them is called Arkaim. And that's the megalithic bus stop. Wow.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah. I mean, why? How? Yeah. And it's in the middle of a dump. Yeah.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
It just keeps going. I mean, there are ruins of megalithic walls around St. Petersburg that was just polygonal blocks. But what I was going to say, you know, in Siberia, they found this culture in one of the towns they called Arkaim. And it's like a spiraling town. that housed smiths and porters and, you know, all trades, you know, we can think of.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And they found many of these identical sites throughout Siberia and Kazakhstan. And they date like thousands and thousands of years, maybe like three or four thousand years. And recently we've been told there was nothing in Siberia. Now we're finding these towns. So we don't know who those people were and why they left. We know that they burned their town and left.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So whenever you find something unusual, generally you cannot derive a conclusion about it until you do not just, you know, more studies, but your studies need to be comparative in nature. So that's why I was very keen on trying to get another chip from, let's say, this group in Russia, or from somebody who works with stone. To get a chip that was that is known that has been machined.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So it was like a deliberate destruction. Yeah, yeah, that's it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, it's something new that's been discovered and very few people talk about, but it's not just one town. It's a bunch of towns like that that they're finding.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And it's Siberia, Siberia and Kazakhstan.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And we know nothing about those people. I mean, what else we don't know?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Well, I don't know if you've heard about it. There is such thing as a Potomsky crater. That doesn't look like anything I've ever seen before. And to me, it doesn't even look like a crater. It looks like an anthill, like a giant anthill, except that it is giant. And if you look at the picture, you see trees look like very small in comparison. It's very unusual. I've never seen anything like it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
It's deep in Siberia, not far from Lake Baikal, I believe. I don't know what it is, you know, maybe natural.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, and I've never seen anything like it anywhere. So whatever it is, it's unique.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And it does remind me of the little mouths that ants make on my patio every day. Right, right. Except this would need to be some mega ants to do it. And what type of stone is it? They say limestone with quartz.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Now that you mention it, we live on the surface of this planet, right? So we don't know what's under the sea. We don't know what's under the ice. We don't know what's underground. We think that the surface is it. But when you count the surface, the area... is so much less than the area could be underground or under ice or underwater. So we know nothing of this planet.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
So chances are whatever we know is not just incomplete, it's also wrong. I don't know where to stop wondering. It's just so much to learn, so much to explore if we only dare to. That's what we need to do and explore what's interesting.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Not that I've seen. No.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Well, hopefully soon. Yeah.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I'm dying to go myself because I haven't been going for a while, you know, when shit hit the fan with all of the wars and stuff. But yeah, I'd love, it would be nice for all of us to go.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Be able to comment on some of that stuff.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Because, you know, I mentioned this, you know, earthworks, ancient earthworks, you know, there is ample evidence of prehistoric dikes and canals like Volga was connected to Don River in a way before Stalin did it. And there are some dikes and walls that we call like snake walls that we don't know who's built, but they're like hundreds of kilometers long.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
But we're talking like mega structures, you know, just piled earth, you know, clearly, you know, to direct water. But, you know, who's done it? You know, who had the... Yeah, yeah, like those who had the... Technology to do it, God knows, because there's no record of it. And how long does that thing go? Hundreds of kilometers. Sometimes thousands of kilometers.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, it's in plain sight. Anybody can see, but nobody asks questions. People drive by, walk by, and nobody is. But when you think about it, you're like, really?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I don't think I really look forward to continuing this. I'm looking for an opportunity to do some on-site work in Egypt. So that would be interesting because that way we can learn some more. Or for that matter, just anywhere. Anywhere in the world, I think. I'd like to take my nuclear instruments and to take measurements. So one way or the other, I'm going to do it. Love it. Love it. Cool.
Matt Beall Limitless
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How can people find you, follow you, follow your work? Good question. I need to do something about it. I haven't thought about it, but... Start an X account before we air this episode. Yes, we need to do that.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And we know what sort of tool was used to machine it. Was it like a steel tool or maybe it was a copper tool? But we know what tool it was. And then, you know, if I stick that under my SCM, I'll be able to establish a baseline. So I say, okay, well, you take granite and that granite was cut, you know, using copper saw with some emery in it.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Yeah, I maintain a blog there and I post my ideas. So if you're curious to... to see what I think. And I have a lot of ideas on math, on physics. And I write a paper and I post it on my blog.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Hopefully not the Florida snow, right?
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
Well, that gives me a baseline of how much copper I would expect to see in that cut. Or if it's, you know, another stone that's been machined using, you know, a stainless steel or some carbon steel tool, that would give me a baseline. You know, that particular stone machine, this tool, you know, how much metal should we expect? So once I have that baseline, I can do comparative analysis.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And to give you an example, like I spent a year learning how to measure, actually more than a year, how to measure viscosity of crude oil. You know, it took me that long to figure it out. And then I spent, you know, another year or two and I'm still learning how to measure neutrons and gammas. And I'm just getting started, you know, with metrology.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
I can look at another shard and say, you know, does it have more or less? And does it have, you know, the same or something different? So without having a baseline for comparison, it's very hard to pass a judgment. So that's why, in all honesty, I cannot derive any judgment about the samples that Ben brought, except that they were supremely clean. You know, like because there were no contaminants.
Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov
And I find that unusual. It is. Yeah.