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Ego, meaning because they've already recommended it because they don't want to admit that it's not effective.
We've all seen propaganda.
Especially when you just highlighted all those other problems with like DNA being introduced, lipid nanoparticles getting past the cell wall.
All of it is just nuts.
It's hard to believe.
Yeah, it's hard to believe it's true.
It really is.
It's hard to believe that all this that you just said is true.
But when Rolling Stone magazine printed an article saying that people were.
And I think the thing that shocked me the most is the euthanizing people.
The hospitals were overflowing with people overdosing on ivermectin and gunshot victims couldn't get in.
And the ventilators.
The ventilators that, you know, I know why they stopped prescribing them.
And then they used a stock photo, which was of a bunch of people wearing winter coats.
What are breathing treatments exactly?
And like, I think it was I think the article was August in Oklahoma.
Just when I thought we were done.
That's one of the worst ones.
Like the whole thing was – it was so brazen and sloppy and obvious, especially in the age of Google.
Like, why would you stop that?
Why would you want to stop people from doing that?
I just think it's just such a hard truth to swallow is that they wanted to suppress as many treatments as possible.
That's a hard truth to swallow.
Thank you for exposing this and sticking your neck out and becoming the person you are today through all this craziness.
And I really enjoyed talking to you.
Thanks for having me.
You have a lot of courage.
You really do.
And I hope you get through this as a winner.
Bye, everybody.
If this had all gone down in the 1980s, we would all be in the dark.
We would have no idea.
We would have been like, wow, I guess Ivor Maxson is killing people.
We wouldn't have known until like 2030.
People would have like – you would have been a conspiracy theorist.
You would have been a crazy person, like one of those people that could tell you all the facts about the Kennedy assassination with wild eyes.
Oliver Stone, you know, but it was so obvious and it was so confusing because, you know, I had had people on my podcast before where, you know, I had doctors on and I talk about foolish people that don't believe in traditional medicine, like people that want to try different things, like people that were anti-vaccine or anti-anything.
They don't want to admit their side effects.
I'm like, these are the best people at the front of the line.
Five years later, I'm like, don't trust anybody.
They're all compromised.
It's all money.
And that was the most disheartening thing.
The propaganda was disheartening, but it was that the whole system is compromised.
And then when I found out that pharmaceutical drug companies, they're the ones that are funding studies and that they could have a whole ton of studies.
They don't have to divulge all the data from their studies.
They only have to show you some studies that were carefully crafted to show efficacy.
But all the other studies that they had that even showed negative effects, they could bury those.
They weren't held responsible.
I was like, what is this?
But it's like everything in the world when money gets involved.
I couldn't believe it.
That's so wild.
Look at that.
Look at these people wearing winter coats.
So apparently this was a bunch of people that were waiting in line for the flu shot.
Gunshot victims.
All those people got shot.
What the fuck is going on in Oklahoma?
They're just shooting folks.
They think it's the Wild West out there.
Imagine if those were all gunshot.
But look how crazy that article is or that tweet is.
Gunshot victims left waiting as horse dewormer overdoses overwhelm Oklahoma.
By the way, zero horse dewormers there.
It was a total lie.
That's how they always do it.
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They're all dirty.
It's so dirty.
It's such a dirty business.
God, I just have massive respect for journalists.
If I had never done this podcast, I'd be your regular schmo out there with, you know, just spitting out all the company lines that all the blast all over the news.
I kind of liked it better then.
I didn't think the world was filled with demons, money-hungry demons that are willing to sacrifice human lives in the pursuit of revenue.
Very nice to meet you.
With good reason.
That's why I'm having you on.
That's why I continue to talk.
People are like, stop with the COVID already.
I get it, folks.
If this is not for you, move on.
Mary and I will still be bitching about this for the next three years.
Well, you know, for me, it was just it was such a wake up call because it's so weird to see your face on TV green.
First of all, that was weird.
And then this term horse dewormer.
I'm like, why you guys aren't concentrating on the fact that a 55 year old man is fine three days later during the worst strain.
It was during the Delta where everybody's freaking out.
This one's going to kill us all.
And I was fine in three days.
And I made this video.
I'm like, I'm sorry, I have to cancel the concert this weekend.
I got COVID, but I'm good now.
No, and there's a lot of people that, for whatever reason, they have this very rigid ideology that the pharmaceutical drug companies are to be trusted and we should trust the science and that all these organizations, whether it's the FDA or whatever it is that's connected to these assertions, they should be trusted, not just the average doctor who's talking about these side effects and all these different things that they're experiencing with their patients.
I didn't think that was going to be anything.
I thought that was just going to be the people that bought tickets to see Dave Chappelle and I in New Orleans.
Was it Nashville?
Wherever it was.
That's all it was going to be.
Those folks are going to be upset.
We'll make it up to you.
Your tickets still count.
That's all I thought it was going to be.
I thought it was going to be a normal tweet that I put out or a normal Instagram post that I put out.
Then all of a sudden, I hear that
Neil Young wants to be removed from Spotify.
I was like, what the fuck is going on?
This is crazy.
Spotify got calls from two former presidents.
No, I grew by two million subscribers in a month.
Because people started listening.
Because they made it sound like I was this maniac.
And they started listening like, oh...
He's really reasonable and pretty humble about all this stuff and just asking questions and bringing people on, like Dr. Robert Malone, who has nine patents in the invention of mRNA vaccine technology.
He took it himself.
He was reporting his insane adverse side effect where he almost died.
He was telling about it, and they labeled him a kook for that.
Well, Malone, Peter McCullough.
But I've always been the type of person that is like if someone is saying something and they have rock solid connect.
Dr. Peter McCullough is the most published physician in his field in human history.
Like this is a incredibly well-respected doctor up until he took a moral and ethical stand saying that this is not what they're saying.
This is not what we should be doing.
And then destroyed.
They tried to destroy his career.
He's had a horrible life.
But the man has incredible courage and he was labeled all... When I would tell people he's the most published physician in time, you'd see their eyes glaze away.
They didn't want to hear it.
I'm like, maybe he's right.
Well, five years later, we know he's right.
We know he was right.
He was right all along.
I mean, the whole... So for me...
There's always a bunch of people that are ideologically or financially captured.
And then there's people that feel morally obligated to tell the truth.
And you can spot those people.
Nice to meet you.
And when I spotted a few of them, I'm like, okay, let me hear them out.
I might be the guy that goes, no, this guy's a kook and he's going to cost people lives.
Or I might be someone who goes, hey, everybody, hit the brakes.
Like you might be getting bamboozled here and –
Especially the real concern with any sort of a new drug is always the side effects.
But when you have indemnity, when you have complete immunity for any financial liability, like the vaccine manufacturers do, and all you have to do is label it a vaccine.
Because that's not a traditional vaccine.
It's just not.
They changed the definition for mRNA vaccine technology.
Before that, it was not that.
It was a very different thing.
We all had in our head vaccines are good.
That's why they don't get sued because we need vaccines.
And then, unfortunately, I read Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
's book, The Real Anthony Fauci.
I was like, oh, my God.
No, I didn't take it.
But that's why they were so mad at me.
I was ready to take it.
The UFC had allocated shots for the Johnson & Johnson, for all their employees.
And I showed up there on a Saturday, which was the day of the fights.
And I said, can you give it to me?
And they said, yeah, sure.
Let's call the doctor.
We'll set it up.
I thought I was going to get a shot.
I thought it was like a flu shot.
Like, I'll get that shot and I'll go do the broadcast.
I was going to do the broadcast.
I didn't think anything of it.
I was not worried about it at all.
And they said, no, you have to come to the clinic and do it.
Could you do that on Monday?
And I said, I can't, but I'll be back in two weeks.
During the time that I was trying to get it and then in two weeks later when the next fights were, it got pulled from the market.
I saw you on the Danny Jones podcast, and I've read a lot of your tweets and Twitter and just the entire ordeal that you've been through since the beginning of COVID.
Because of blood clots.
And then two people I knew had strokes.
And I was like, hold the fuck up.
And then I got real nervous because there was a lot of family members that were like really pushing it.
You need to get vaccinated.
Everyone should get.
Have you gotten vaccinated?
Get vaccinated.
We all need to do our part.
We all need to get vaccinated.
And, you know, then I became a heretic.
Then I was like, okay, I don't think I want to do it.
And I had a bunch of friends that had horrible side effects, including one of them who is a young guy who is a pacemaker now.
His heart stopped beating for like nine seconds at a time and he would black out.
It was wild shit was happening.
And I was like, I don't understand why this isn't on the news.
I don't understand.
And then I'm like, oh, my God, I'm the news.
I'm like, I have to be the news.
I don't want to be the news.
I like talking shit.
I like having a bunch of comedians here.
We have laughs.
We get silly.
Have a few drinks.
Watch some funny videos.
Crack each other.
Or scientists.
I like to have fascinating people in here.
Tell me how the cosmos was formed.
I don't want to be someone who distributes information to the masses it's been lied to.
I don't have any lofty goals like that.
I want to be the one who tells the truth.
And that's not what I do.
I'm just a curious person who talks to people.
I got it from India like that.
I got boxes of it.
I was handing it out to everybody.
I think we still have some laying around here.
Well, that was after my doctor had got it for me.
My doctor got it for me.
I think I fucked it up for everybody.
I think me becoming the attack boy when they went after me.
I don't think they would have attacked anybody otherwise.
that didn't have a large platform like that.
And I don't think they would, I should say it better, I don't think they would have attacked ivermectin the way they did.
I think they would have just suppressed it and it wouldn't have been a public thing because it wouldn't have got out.
But I think the problem was me saying that.
The crazy thing is I said all that other stuff too.
I said IV vitamins, I said Z-Pak, prednisone.
I told them all the things my doctor put me on.
Why didn't you think they would work?
And all they concentrated on was this ivermectin thing.
I was like, this is wild.
Like, what is going on?
And then I was like, am I wrong about ivermectin?
And then I started just reading about the scientists, the team that invented it and how they won a Nobel Prize.
I'm like, okay, what the hell is happening?
Like, this is nuts.
This is so weird.
I had Pierre on early on, too.
Right, right.
You're still labeled a horse dewormer pusher in 2025.
Right, right.
When Chris Cuomo is out there talking about how he's taking it for long COVID.
Is there any difference in the ivermectin from the feed store?
And there is some sort of an efficacy for some sort of skin infections.
If you don't mind, please tell everybody what your background is in medicine.
Is that true?
But you use it topically?
Is that how it's used?
The guy from India, he still emails me.
Do you need any more, my friend?
I just bought boxes.
I was handing out boxes to people because so many people were telling me they couldn't get it.
And so I'm like, let me just get a lot of it while I still can.
People are giving it to me at shows.
Oh, I know people that take it as a prophylactic all the time.
It's just what a weird drug to go after that was on the World Health Organization's list of essential medicines.
How many people who had yellow fever and river blindness, all sorts of different parasitic infections.
And it showed that it stopped viral replication in vitro.
They knew that.
I remember when I brought that up to Sanjay Gupta.
It was like, but you know it does, right?
And you can see the look on his face where it's like he couldn't talk about that.
He had to skirt around it and just do his best.
But it was like this is kind of crazy to make an off-label medication so taboo.
And then to stop monoclonal antibodies, just stop them.
Well, you couldn't get them.
My friend, one of his bunnies was in the hospital.
And because he was in the hospital, they wouldn't give him monoclonal antibodies.
What is that about?
Does that make any sense?
How many people did they give it to that were too late?
How do we know this?
It does seem suspicious because if you've shown something to be very effective done early on,
wouldn't you assume it would continue to be at least somewhat effective?
Now, if you're trying to stop someone who's on the brink of death, which this gentleman wound up dying, and they didn't get it to him, if you're just trying to stop, and you can't do it because you're in the hospital?
Because you're admitted?
You should have crazy data that shows after 14, your feet fall off.
14 days of infection, your feet fall off, you go blind if you take it, can't give it to you.
And what steroids in particular?
Well, that's also one of the things that they talked about in the RFK Jr.
book was that the studies that were saying that it was ineffective, the studies were not using the protocol that these doctors were using.
And it seemed like these studies were designed to fail.
Yeah, it's all very bizarre.
Like, it's really bizarre to live through.
And for you as a person who was out of medicine and then said, jump back in six months before all this, like, what is it like to have your worldview sort of, like, spun around like that?
And help people.
What has it been like having to do this?
Having to do all these podcasts.
It's the Streisand effect, right?
They attacked you, and by doing so, they made the whole thing way bigger than it needed to be.
No, there's a lot of doctors that I know that were in danger of losing their license because they had prescribed ivermectin.
So what did they do specifically to you?
You could have been out.
So the first thing they attacked you with was what?
Yeah, well, sometimes the universe has a calling for people, you know?
What was the first one?
So this was your first experience like, oh, my God, this is a real battle.
Would it feel weird publicly yet?
Like when you were saying you were having a hard time going to the grocery store, you're worried.
They came after you very publicly.
So take us through what happened with you at the very beginning.
So what did what was going through your mind while that was happening?
So COVID starts making its way across the world.
It's just – it's so hard to imagine for someone who's never experienced what you went through what that must be like emotionally to just get thrown to the wolves in front of the world like publicly by people like CNN.
Like where it gets so weird because if that never happens to you, you look at CNN and you go, oh, they're the news.
They're going to tell me the truth.
I thought – I just –
automatically thought that, or they're at least saying what they're allowed to say.
Maybe the government holds back some information, but they're not going to lie.
And then I, you see my own self on TV and I'm sure, but I'm used to being like attacked for things.
Did anybody ever bother you?
Well, a lot of people got red-pilled, to use the Matrix expression, where they woke up to what's really going on.
It's kind of a masterful job of propaganda over the years that the pharmaceutical drug companies have done.
I mean, because most people aren't even aware of how many drugs get pulled.
They're not aware of the high percentage of them.
What is it, in the 30s?
But it's just very profitable.
And that's what people have to wake up to.
There's a bunch of factors, right?
There's the primary one, which is a bunch of scientists that are really trying to help people.
And they're really trying to develop new ways to cure Parkinson's and all sorts of other problems and cancer.
And these people are just constantly – and then there's the money people.
The money people who take that thing and say, how do we give Oxycontin to everybody?
And then you have the Sackler family, right?
You have evil.
You have like actual evil.
Maybe they don't have horns.
Maybe they don't have a forked tail.
But that's a demonic thing to do.
You're infecting people with essentially something that turns them into a zombie and it's killing people.
But you're going to make a lot of money.
Well, it's because you're so trusted.
You're coming from a position of authority.
It's a very different thing, especially in an area where most people are woefully ignorant.
I mean, look how many doctors who are practicing doctors who are woefully ignorant about nutrition.
It's an enormous amount, right?
Now imagine the average person who has to go to a specialist about something and they're being told, oh, you need Vioxx.
This is this thing I'm going to give you and it's going to cure your arthritis.
Like, oh, great.
And then you fucking stroke out.
And the people who made that drug knew it was going to cause problems in people.
In the emails that were admitted during the hearings when they lost or during the corporate hearings.
They wound up paying a fraction of what they made.
They made like $12 billion.
They had to pay, I think they had to pay five.
So they made seven, you know, with, you know, it's costs and stuff.
Stuff costs money.
But Jesus, it's so hard to wake up to that.
It's so hard to like go, oh, wait.
So they're not looking out for us?
They're not, like, trying to make us better?
I always thought they were the people that were the most wonderful people in the world.
They're the people that are providing the medication that's keeping everyone alive.
This is why our life expectancy is 100 years old now as opposed to just 20 years ago.
Like, oh, great.
I would have never questioned it.
Not only that, I would not talk to anybody who did.
I'd be like, get out of here.
I'm not having an anti-vaxxer on the show.
But after reading Suzanne Humphrey's book, and I had her on recently, reading that book, it was like...
Wait a minute.
And then just this can't be true.
And then just look at the raw data of like when the vaccines were introduced and also when hygiene was introduced and sanitation was introduced and then massive drop off of the disease.
And then at the very end, when it's almost gone, vaccines are introduced in almost every case.
And yet we all are thinking like, thank God vaccines exist, because otherwise we'd all have polio.
Like, oh, Christ.
Never would have.
The polio one blew me away.
When you find out that that was the same time where they were using DDT everywhere and the people that were getting polio first were people in rural farmland communities where they sprayed DDT everywhere.
And it wasn't just affecting people.
And so I felt like it would be very educational for people to hear your perspective.
It was affecting horses.
And it doesn't cross species.
So it wasn't the same thing.
Clearly something was going on.
Everybody got locked into this polio scare.
And to this day, I've had a friend use that to me in a text message to me about like, look, we have to really appreciate that.
You know, he's like trying to make up for some stupid joke.
And he was saying that, you know, look at Jonas Salk cure polio.
I don't have the time.
I don't have the time to sit down and tell him there's a great book.
It's called Dissolving Illusions.
You should read it.
And then you should read Turtles All the Way Down.
It's another great book.
And then you should listen to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
's journey from being a very respected and trusted environmental attorney who was applauded by the left to being some nutcase pariah who I thought was a nutcase.
I had to apologize to him when I had him on the show.
I said, I have to tell you, when I first heard of you and I felt like I thought you were a kook, you're this anti-vaccine kook.
I thought I was living in L.A., working in Hollywood.
We I bought into it.
Everybody around me thought that way.
So I thought we all this is a sensible, intelligent people think.
No, and they don't want to hear it.
That's the thing.
It's like telling someone their spaghetti monster in the sky is not real.
They don't want to hear it.
No, there's nothing good about it.
And the only thing good about it was a shift in perspective.
And that it's going to be way harder to pull some shit off like this again.
People are not going to buy into it, especially all those vaccine injured people who keep getting gas lit.
Why do they keep calling it long COVID?
How come nobody I know wasn't vaccinated got long COVID?
What is this long COVID you speak of?
Is there a long flu?
Where's the long pneumonia?
What the fuck are you talking about?
Why are you calling it?
Is it possible that this is a vaccine injury?
I'm just asking.
It's not really a million dollars, is it, to work with?
I just want to be clear.
Isn't that from some Vanity Fair game?
Horse dewormer who claimed there was a million dollar markup.
And haven't they shown that the spike protein continues to be produced in the body up to 700 days later?
How convenient.
Well, I would imagine you...
The real problem with paying people is you'd have to pay so many.
I mean, what do you give them?
What if you find out you have myocarditis and your life expectancy is greatly reduced and we know for a fact it came out of this vaccine?
What do you give a person like that?
What if it's Katy Perry?
You know what I'm saying?
Like you give her two billion dollars.
I don't care.
What do you do?
But it's insane.
The number of people that I that I personally know.
What's very shocking to me is when I talk to people that are pro vaccine, still pro vaccine.
I'm going to be very specific.
MRNA vaccine.
still pro-COVID vaccine that will tell me they don't know anybody who was injured by it.
I was like, how is that possible?
I know a lot.
I know two people on Pacemakers.
And they're young people.
Yeah, I know a lot of people that got fucked up, including family members.
I know a lot of people that got fucked up.
And people that don't want to admit they got fucked up, all of a sudden they have this new cancer that's spreading, like, rapidly.
It's terrifying.
You know, it's like...
I watched the Danny Jones podcast and you guys were trying to get Casey Means, Callie Means, to talk about SV40, right?
Do you think that's being political?
That's trying to like appease too many people?
What do you think that is?
It shouldn't be.
That's what's disappointing, because we thought that this administration come in.
It was just going to kick down doors.
Like this is Epstein list.
Who killed JFK?
Let's find out.
What are all these fucking UFOs like?
That was my number one.
Out of those three, give me that one.
Tell me the aliens are real.
But this political dance, this excuse for that.
So I really appreciate it.
Jack Cruz kind of pestering him on that.
And then I've talked to Brett Weinstein about that as well.
And he gave a breakdown of how it actually happened and when the original kidney cells from these monkeys were being used to make vaccines that they inadvertently gave these people this simian virus 40, which when it gets into the human body can lead to rapid cancer.
Well, at first they thought it was going to stay local.
It's going to stay right where your arm is.
Your body will react to it.
It will produce the antibodies, and then you're good to go.
And then all these silly people, you can watch them die in the streets and laugh as you step over them.
I trusted the science.
So they know that that's not true.
It doesn't stay local.
They know it doesn't dissipate within – it was a small amount of time that it was supposed to stay inside your body.
They know that's not true.
That's terrifying.
What could you conceive of that would help something like that?
Like what could you do that would aid the body in being able to do something like that?
Is there anything theorized?
You should come back on and do a victory lap anyway.
That guy was torn apart.
They were trying so hard to make him out to seem to be a kook.
And every interview he would do, he would be so reasonable, so logical, so fact-based, and so knowledgeable.
And they still – they still – he was a kook.
He was a kook.
I remember some fucking guy yelled at me in – excuse me – yelled at me in Vegas.
He said something about me spreading disinformation.
Then he said something about that idiot Malone.
I'm like, oh, that guy.
Or one of them.
I don't know.
I'm sure it's not like none of those things ever happened in a vacuum.
I'm sure there's a ton of people working on that.
But he was one of them.
He's a fucking brilliant guy.
So how did they find out that it can get into the nucleus?
DNA contamination.
And what happens if you get too much DNA?
Are we going to make monkey people?
I don't know.
You imagine if we made like hybrid people, they turn out to look like Neanderthals.
You know, like we injected them with something that twisted their their genes back.
But just the idea of manipulating your DNA is so terrifying.
It's like what?
Integrate DNA.
You don't think good things.
That's like immediately I'm like, what?
Which is a real problem with using the same term.
Why not use a new term?
Well, because then you wouldn't be under the umbrella of protection that vaccines currently enjoy where they can't be, which is so crazy.
It's so crazy.
It's just hard to believe it's true.
And so for a person like you that just like you were saying, see the carnage every day.
Tell me what it's been like.
What is it like?
Yeah, that would be a nice thing.
to hope to do something about it, but it would be really nice if some real research was done on what are the actual long-term effects.
If you're, if everyone's looking at it from a position of we can't get, you know, sued for this, this is dangerous.
Someone has to look at it and say, well, these are the definite effects of this vaccine because it's too much.
This is long COVID.
It's too much.
Oh, he got a neurological condition that was going to happen anyway.
It just coincidentally happened after he took the COVID shot.
There's got to be some way to determine what of these ailments, specifically when you're talking about the abnormal antibody levels.
But as you said, it doesn't have a classification.
Imagine if that was the case with like herpes.
Everybody would be like, hey, put a damn code in there so we know what this is.
That's a good friend of mine.
He says every now and then his heart will just jack up to like 180.
And he has to sit down.
And he just has to hope that this isn't the last time he breathes.
He just sits there.
He has a heart monitor.
One of them wristwatch ones, the Garmin one.
He just watches his heart jack up to like 180 beats per minute just sitting there for no reason, not knowing if you're going to die.
Another friend of mine who was really young was a soccer player.
super healthy guy, super fit, gets the vaccine.
All of a sudden, giant heart racing in the middle of the night, like out of control, like you're running a seven-minute mile, just jacked.
And he wound up in the hospital twice.
Nothing they could do.
It all went away.
It went back to normal after a while.
But now he's got this terrible fear that he's got a fucking time bomb in his chest.
That out of nowhere would just, his heart would just ramp up.
And you could say like, oh, that was, it's probably a genetic thing.
He probably had it already.
It was like, maybe.
But this guy was super fit.
Super fit soccer player.
Dropping dead.
The rarest of rare people to drop dead in the middle of nowhere.
The best athletes in the world.
The people who are the healthiest in the prime of their life.
What do you think that was all about?
And how many kids did we see dropped out of heart attacks in like high school football this year?
Like over the last four years, rather.
It was like you'd see these articles pop up all the time.
You never saw those articles.
Or if you did, it was super rare.
And some kid with a heart condition that was never diagnosed, which does happen.
Yeah, they just threw us right onto the wrestling team.
They didn't check shit.
They didn't even see if you had a cold.
I mean, I don't know what's better.
It's probably better to screen them.
They'll find those undiagnosed conditions that kids can have.
Oh, it certainly is.
But I mean, that might be the good aspect of it.
Maybe some people will get diagnosed that didn't have any idea that they were running around with the problem and they can fix it.
And what's crazy is this is all true and yet us talking about it makes us both look like kooks.
Like we then will be labeled for sure someone will go out and attack us now and label us anti-vax, anti-science, kooks.
And this is what's dangerous about this conversation.
This is what's dangerous about what they said.
And, you know, those people work for the devil.
Yeah, you got censored?
I'm not bleeping out shit.
I'm not bleeping out shit.
We'll find out.
I think it's wrong if it's not okay.
If it's not okay, I think YouTube is more reasonable now than they were during the pandemic.
And I think...
they have a very difficult job managing content at scale where you're dealing with you know the the amount of people uploading things is insanity and they have certain things that they've tagged as being controversial because they were anti-science or misinformation that it's still there's like lingering ones what was the issue that we had jamie
We had like an old episode where there was something in the old episode that would have violated their rules back then.
It doesn't violate them now.
But because the episode was uploaded back then, what happened with that?
But the bottom line was, everything this person said was true.
And proven to be true now.
And now it's 100% fact.
So now you can say whatever you want.
Now if you say, hey, it's super likely that that virus leaked from a lab in China.
And now you can say that.
Like back then you would get attacked.
It would be crazy.
You'd be called a racist.
You'd be called the worst things possible if you just said like the wonderful Jon Stewart bit that he did on Colbert Show.
Did you ever see that bit?
Let's watch it because it's really hilarious.
This is like in the heart of the pandemic.
And Stephen Colbert was like vaccine or death.
He was all in on it.
And so Colbert was like trying to like halt him in the middle.
He's doing a bit.
Jon Stewart's doing a bit.
He's doing a funny bit.
And Colbert tries to like cock block it.
He tries to like trip him.
But Jon Stewart powers through like the comic that he is.
Don't tell me it was taken down.
Give us this one.
It's just people need to make sure this doesn't happen again.
Cobra kept trying to get in the way.
He's going to do the other thing that we already saw.
The other thing.
We talked about the Spanish flu, which a lot of people never heard that before either.
They did what?
Isn't that great?
That's one of the best segments ever on late night television ever in the history.
Well, this is the job of comedians in society at certain times.
And Jon Stewart, he held the torch.
Well, he's a very smart guy.
He's not a bullshitter.
He's a very smart guy.
I don't agree with him on everything.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I haven't spoken to him.
He lives in another state.
But I love the guy.
He's a great comic.
Very funny guy and a very nice guy and very fair and honest.
He's, you know, like the type of person who could do that on television in the middle of the shit, which is what it was.
This was like right around the same time where the government was where they made that.
Remember that release that they had?
They said for the vaccinated, you've done your job.
But for the unvaccinated, you're looking forward to a winter of illness and death, severe illness and death, severe.
Severe illness and death.
And this was during Omicron.
which statistically was a cold.
That was the one that had the least mortality.
So for him to do that during that time was very courageous.
He had to know, but he just had to make it really funny, which he did.
It's so preposterous, because it's so on the nose.
You almost think if that was in a movie, like if it was a Coen Brothers movie or something, like, oh my God, this movie's ridiculous.
There's no way it would be named the same as The Lab.
I don't think he did.
No, John skirted out of that.
He had a show with Apple for a while and it was really good.
But then I think, I don't want to speak out of turn here, but I do all the time, so I might as well.
I think there was an issue with an episode they did on China.
Is that the case?
Let's see if there's like data on that or if there's a story on that.
But they stopped doing that show.
So he had like an Apple show.
You know, because Apple TV produces a lot of shows now.
They have Severance.
You ever watch Severance?
Oh, my God, that's a good show.
Oh, my God, that is such a funny show.
I didn't even hear about it until, like, this year.
There's almost too many great shows.
That show is fantastic.
That show is so funny.
Is it really?
Yeah, there's something about those guys, those guys that run the megachurches.
Like, you've got to be crazy.
Not one of them is like, oh, that guy makes sense.
Super reasonable, normal human being that's like, I like that guy.
I want him as my pastor.
No, it's always like some complete kook.
In October, the New York Times reported that Apple canceled the comedy show ahead of its third season due to creative differences and execs' concerns over Stewart's coverage of topics such as China and AI.
The China, I get it.
Apple has contracts with China, right?
They have cell phones made in China.
And they actually have to – we did a story about that the other day.
We read a story the other day about how the iPhone 17 is so complex that it actually has to be manufactured in China because they have the best manufacturing.
So they must have some sort of a thing where you can't criticize.
You're going to fuck it all up for us.
You're going to fuck it all up for the production of our phones that we need until we make all this money, which is why we have more money than most countries.
I just don't think they want him criticizing, you know, China.
But the AI one is even more weird.
The AI one is even more weird because it's like, don't you think we should make fun of AI?
Don't you think there should be like something that scares the shit out of people enough till they wake up and recognize that this thing is coming at us like a freight train.
There's no guardrails.
No one knows what's going to happen.
And everybody's like, full steam ahead.
Well, it's because you're intelligent.
You know, I think most intelligent people are aware that this will be a change that is akin to the asteroid that hit the Yucatan.
This is going to hit in some crazy way that like redefines what it means to be a human being.
It's around the corner.
No, there's a lot of things.
Well, I like the fact that it was free during the time where California was not.
You could do whatever you wanted to.
Relatively, right.
But in my business and for what I do, like stand-up comedy and letting people tell you what you can and can't do, I don't like that.
And here they've had a more rebellious spirit in that regard.
Don't make me move to Florida.
No, I don't even think – I know.
Idaho's cold as fuck.
Jamie can't live.
Look at him over there.
He can't survive.
He got out of Ohio and he developed thin blood.
It's beautiful.
I quit skiing a few years back, my last accident.
I'm like, I'm done.
Oh, it's fun.
Don't get hurt.
Don't get hurt.
Don't get hurt.
Didn't get hurt.
Don't get hurt.
That's how I feel every time I ski.
But I've had a bunch of surgeries.
That's a problem.
I know the vulnerability of knees.
I've had three knee surgeries.
It's rough on you.
But it's fun.
It's just for me, the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
There's a bunch of other stuff that's a lot more fun that doesn't come with the risk of broken bones and concussions.
You're one of those.
No, some of the ones like Disneyland has some insane ones.
The one the Incredibles ride.
If you've done that one.
Oh, that's great.
That one's fun.
That one's really fun.
You know what's the best ride?
It's in Disney World.
It's an Avatar 3 virtual reality ride.
It's incredible.
I think it's called Flights of Fantasy or something like that.
It's incredible.
You are one of the Avatar people and you fly around on a dragon.
And it's so good.
It's so good.
You feel the breeze.
You feel mist in the air.
At a certain point, I'm realizing while I'm doing this, I'm like...
This wasn't even remotely possible just 20 years ago.
Like, what is it going to look like 20 years from now?
Like, I'm not going to have any idea.
They're going to put a helmet on me.
It's going to, like, sync up with my brain.
Ready, brain sync.
And all of a sudden, you're going to be in that world.
You're like, whoa.
And we're going to trust those people to let us out.
It's not worth it.
It's not as good.
You take the brain thing.
Get in the avatar world.
I get sick on those rides.
This one moves too.
This one you're on like a motorcycle, like a fake motorcycle.
And that's to represent the dragon.
And you have like a handle you hold on to.
And it starts moving you around.
So as you're flying, it's a full sensory experience.
You did that one at Disney World?
It's so good.
It's such a good ride.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
And when you connect that to AI so it tailors something that's specific for your whatever crazy fantasy you want to do.
We already have video games where people can murder people.
That's like the most popular video game is Grand Theft Auto.
And one of the things that people love about it is you could beat some mechanic to death for no reason.
I would recommend martial arts.
I think that would be a healthier way.
But I think more than anything, what it does is allows you to disassociate and just to be able to – because it doesn't mean anything.
It's not really a person that's getting beat to death.
But the imagery is obviously of a person that's getting beat to death.
And you're able to do it with no consequences, no recourse, no bad karma.
You don't even feel bad because it's a part of the game.
What was that one where you could drag the Wild West one where you could beat people with whips?
Red Dawn Redemption, is that it?
Red Dead Redemption.
Crazy games where you could do horrible things to people.
What is it going to be like when you have video games that are actually virtual reality, completely immersive, and you could just be a serial killer?
You could be Jack the Ripper.
They give you a knife, and now you're in London in the 1800s, and you're Jack the Ripper.
Because they can, right?
It's like what Jon Stewart said about the nuclear bomb.
Why do they do that?
And this is the same thing.
This is the parallel to the Manhattan Project because we're not the only ones that are trying to find the – get to the solution of what is like the ultimate expression of AI in its current form, like super intelligent, sentient, artificial intelligence, like something that's going to be godlike power and ability.
Not only has nothing been corrected, I was just watching an argument on television where they were trying to argue for vaccinating women who are pregnant.
China's working on it, too.
We have to work on it.
If we don't work, like, everyone's like, hang on.
We're like, nope, choo-choo.
Just China's working on it.
We have to do it.
We have to get there first.
So this is just like the Manhattan Project.
And I don't think it's going to matter.
I think once we get there, it's going to be so weird for everybody.
I think civilization is going to be an upheaval.
And I think we're entirely attached to the idea that this civilization that we live under where our money is all in hard drives and it's all ones and zeros on a database somewhere, not even backed up by gold anymore.
It's all super weird already.
Like this is standard forever.
I don't think it is.
There'll be a few hikers.
There's going to be a few.
Well, there'll be a few, right?
It's just like there's people that are still pro-vaccine today, right?
They're still pro-mRNA vaccine.
I can't wait for a new booster.
There's people that are out there like that, right?
You're always going to have different kinds of people.
You're never going to have one thing where everybody adopts it.
There's going to be a bunch of people that want to live a subsistence lifestyle in the woods forever.
Let all those morons in New York put their helmets on and live in fucking Avatar land.
I'm going to live out here in the real world.
If you think about how many people play games today versus how many people played games 30 years ago, it's off the charts.
Like what are the numbers?
Like when I was a child is when they had Pong.
That was the first one.
Do you remember that?
That's where you buy your tools.
And that was revolutionary.
You could play a game on television and it was a really simple game.
You know, doot, doot.
And you'd be playing ping pong with this, like, slow-moving ping pong ball.
And it was fun, and we all loved it.
Family would gather around, play ping pong.
And then you fast-forward to Call of Duty.
Like, that's insane.
Like, that is insane.
These kids are... They have microphones on.
They're talking.
They're running through Fallujah, gunning people down.
Like, this is crazy.
You did a good job.
I think a lot of kids are disinterested because they realize that the beck and call of life and becoming a success is you cannot get too wrapped up in these things because they will steal your time.
But my point is that the amount of people that are allowing it to steal their time today, and I know you're enjoying it.
Steal your time is bad.
Play your games.
But I can't do them.
There's too much.
See, they're too exciting.
They're too good.
But these are just the beginning.
What we're experiencing now with Call of Duty and first-person shooters that everybody loves, in comparison to what's going to happen when they put that thing on your head and then all of a sudden you really are on Battleship Troopers.
What was that movie where they fought the aliens?
Starship Troopers.
Did you ever see that one?
But it's the future or they're fighting off aliens, giant alien bugs.
You could be in that.
You could be in it.
Feel the sand on your feet.
Feel the wind in your face.
Smell the breath of the beast as you shoot it down.
It's going to be too compelling.
Either that or go work at the supermarket.
Near the supermarket all day.
You want to play pickup basketball?
You suck at basketball.
Keep hitting bricks.
I just think it's just a test of civilization.
And it's probably something that is changing our species.
And changing it really quickly before we even realize it.
Just like we changed wolves into dogs.
It's turning us into technology-dependent, gelatinous water balloons of blood.
Yeah, they're going to.
They're going to take over lawyers, doctors.
They're probably going to take over a lot of actors.
I think actors and even screenwriters are in real trouble.
Because these AI videos now are insane.
They're so good.
Have you ever seen the one where there's stand-up comedians talking on stage about how – and there's people out there that believe that we're a prompt.
And then they're going to people in scenes of movies that are like saying, do you really believe this is a prompt?
And there's Vikings, like incredible Viking village where you're like walking down the village.
And it looks like Hollywood movie quality.
It looks like some crazy new blockbuster that's out about Vikings.
They have Cro-Magnon Man walking, you know, like hunting on a raft, moving through the frozen lake.
The whole thing is nuts.
It's so good.
It's so, and it keeps getting better.
Like this is insanely good compared to what just existed a couple months ago.
Like a year ago, like there's, it's unrecognizable.
We could like, computers move so slow in comparison.
Like think about when did, when did you first get your first computer?
What year was that?
Okay, so you're probably running Windows 98, right?
It kind of worked, but it was a little buggy.
Sometimes it would crash.
You get the blue screen of death.
Then within five years, they got way better.
Ten years, they got way better.
But now, if you have a laptop now in 2025 versus a laptop from 2020, no difference.
I have an old MacBook that I use sometimes because I like it because it's clickier keyboards.
And it's fucking old as shit.
It's really old.
It seems like a regular laptop.
It's not that much different.
The AI from then was nothing.
It didn't exist.
And now it's making movies that are off the charts, unbelievably realistic.
And this is just one version of it.
They're going to have a way better version of it a month from now, a way better version of it six months from now.
And where does that end?
Like, it doesn't.
It doesn't end.
And who knows what the news is now?
You know how many times someone sent me something on Twitter and I thought, wow, that's crazy war footage.
And it turns out it was just from a video game.
The people get duped.
They see a plane getting shot down.
They think it's real.
No, it's just a scene in a video game.
They're too good.
They're too good.
And this race to AI is, you know, we're all involved in it.
And I worry that it's not in our best interest, just like I worry that
our health system is compromised.
I worry about it all.
There's a lot of people that are gonna be insanely wealthy once this goes live.
Once this goes live, the haves versus the have-nots will be so far separated.
You control everything.
First of all, the stock market.
You figure out the stock market immediately and bet insane amounts of wealth at things and compound it and figure out when to buy and when to sell instantaneously.
You could even use AI to manipulate markets by having a bunch of bots tweet about something.
So then you would jack up a stock price and then you would go in and clean up.
You would create crypto coins, unlimited amounts of crypto coins, dump tons of money in it, hire celebrities they wouldn't even know, hire them to promote the crypto coin, pull the wool out from everybody, make billions of dollars.
And you just do that over and over and over and over again instantaneously all around the world.
then you have all the money.
Like AI, if you're in control of AI and AI is artificial super intelligence and you tell it, make me as much money as you can as quickly as possible in the stock market.
Yeah, that was the more fascinating thing about it to me is I listed a bunch of different things that I took, including monoclonal antibodies.
This is what we have.
We have $100 million to invest.
We have $1 billion to invest.
If you're already wealthy, if you're a huge company already, you could do something like that.
And who knows what kind of an effect that would have.
You could manipulate world governments instantaneously.
You could cut off pipelines.
You could sabotage power grids.
You could shut down energy plants.
You could do all kinds of things.
You can insert viruses into systems that control every aspect of society instantaneously.
You crack, especially once they figure out how to attach AI to quantum computing, then we're doomed.
Then we're really doomed.
Because then you don't have any computational problems.
You have insane amounts of computational power.
And it's all in our lifetime.
Like, that's what's nuts.
It's like, this will be, if people survive and, you know, there's like...
a golden age thousands of years from now where they find the relics of this civilization and they go look through and they figure out how to open up hard drives.
And they see us having this conversation about it.
It's going to be weird.
It's going to be like, oh, they saw it coming and they did it anyway.
Not only did he not stop it, he joined in.
But they only concentrated on ivermectin.
I think that's the idea is that you have to do it because other people are doing it.
If they get a hold of it first, it'd be catastrophic.
And I'm sure I screwed up a lot of possibilities in that little stupid rant of mine.
But it's something I think people need to have in their head because this isn't something that's not going to affect you.
Like, oh, that's not going to affect me.
I don't really have to pay attention to the politics in Poland.
It's not going to affect me.
You can do that.
With this one, you can't do it with because it's going to affect all of us.
But the way they did it was like so transparent, like changing the color of my face on CNN and everywhere, this concerted effort to call it horse dewormer.
In the world, you're not going to know what the news is.
You think Rolling Stone fooled us with that stupid picture from Oklahoma with a bunch of people that are gunshot victims waiting in line?
That's a good point because that was only a couple of years ago.
Today, they probably would.
But this is – that's a clear lie.
And it's a bad one.
What about the really good ones, the really well-coordinated ones that are using artificial created images?
Like how are we going to know?
How are we going to know – like when I Google something, I'm not going to go do –
clinical research.
I'm not going to test these things to make sure it's correct myself.
If you're in control of all the information on the internet, you can instantaneously create a bunch of websites with fake data on it.
You could do that easily, especially if people don't have access to the ability to actually make their own tests.
You could change everything.
If you have AI, you're hacking into this and all the encryptions.
Everything's bye-bye.
All these little roadblocks that we kept up there to keep our feeble primate brains from cracking these codes.
Like, all that stuff goes away.
It's going to get real weird.
I don't think it's going to be that bad.
But I do think it's going to be really – it's going to change just society as we know it.
I mean there's probably going to be a lot of good aspects of it too.
I think the medical aspect of it is pretty amazing.
Chat GPT alone when you can put in your blood work and give you some –
They just tried to make it look as preposterous as possible without ever explaining that it's been used –
Which one's the best at that?
But there's some other really good ones, too, right?
You're a hardcore right-winger.
Well, I was listening to someone talk about a new program that is, you know, they have Pegasus.
So Pegasus can read your phone.
This new program is a zero click.
It reads everything in your phone, including your encrypted messages.
You have no idea if you have it on there or not.
There's no way to detect it.
And it's been being used.
It's used currently.
It's more than multiple billions of times prescribed to human beings.
I don't know, Jamie.
See if you could find out the name of it.
The old one was Pegasus.
The new one is a similar preposterous name.
No, that's a different thing.
I think Ian Carroll was talking about it.
So then, okay, so you don't have any privacy anymore.
So then your text messages don't have any privacy anymore.
If it wasn't for Elon Musk buying Twitter, can you imagine how weird the world would be right now?
What did you do that got you kicked off?
What excuse they give you?
What did that feel like?
You know what I think about those things, too?
And Gab as well.
I think they're all infested with out-of-state actors.
other countries, other countries, intelligence agencies, and even our own countries, and then even corporations.
I think they're infected.
I think even like Democratic and Republican operatives, I think a lot of the traffic is bots.
It's almost not worth engaging anymore.
It's like, what are we doing here?
Like you're arguing with someone who's not even a real person.
And I think that's like that's a big part of it.
And I think in those other alternative platforms like truth, I think they they do that to make them ridiculous for everybody else.
So the last thing they want is a bunch of people competing to see who's the freest.
So what's the best way to do that?
Well, you have to sabotage this new social media platform the moment it comes out.
The moment it comes out, swastikas, Peppy the Frog, the worst possible things.
Post as much as you can so that this place becomes toxic.
So that you have to have a zero tolerance policy like Blue Sky does.
You go to Blue Sky, if you tweet, there are only two genders.
Get the fuck out of here.
How long did you last?
Vaccine enthusiast is hilarious.
I don't want to... No worries.
You don't have to say it.
So what was that like?
When you got into it with her.
They always throw that one.
When they have the right to be.
That's the thing.
It's like when they feel like they've got the green light to just be as evil as possible and to turn you into like some subhuman.
Especially if they don't like it because you're a doctor.
I just think she's so smart.
Spreading that misinformation in our neighborhood.
So overall –
coming out of it on the other side though.
And do you feel a sense of indication at least like, cause the public has embraced you and you've, you've got a lot of followers on Twitter that support you, you know, after I'm sure the Danny Jones podcast, I'm sure that a lot of people were listening to your story and,
What was this person in the hospital for?
Wait, wait, wait.
So they were in the hospital with COVID, and they gave them something to kill them?
That's common?
What is their argument for why they're trying to stop?
Have you tried to steal me on what they're saying?
The euthanizing one is still stuck in my head.
I can't imagine that that's real.
So it's when they've determined that someone's going to die anyway?
Is that what it is?
This is 100% real?
It seems like something someone would tell me.
It seems like something that someone would tell me and then I would have to ask you.
This is something someone told me.
It seems like something I would be bringing up to you as a ridiculous thing and you would shoot it down.
Would you have ever imagined this before you became a doctor?
Do you know how many people get assisted suicide in Canada?
Jamie, pull the numbers up.
And they'll do it if you're just depressed.
They'll do it if you don't like being overweight.
They'll do it if you, you know, whatever.
The Canada numbers are bananas.
Like, this can't be true.
This can't be true.
And here it is.
More than 15,000 people received medical assistance in dying in Canada in 2023.
What is it in 2024 now?
This is an old story.
So imagine 2025 where we're there.
This is crazy.
Fifteen thousand people.
They've helped them die instead of like help them live instead of like we used to call Suicide Hotline.
Hey, don't do it, Bob.
You know, now Canada's like, come on in.
I'll make an appointment for you.
Come on in here.
You know, shouldn't we be helping people get past that?
Isn't that the goal?
Like, hey, maybe we can get you healthy.
Maybe we can get you feeling better.
You know, maybe we can do something about all your hormone levels and all the things wrong with your body.
Maybe that's why you're depressed.
I mean, there's legitimate reasons for people to do it.
Don't get me wrong.
If you're like, I know a guy who did it, Michael Lair, who's a hilarious comedian.
And he had ALS and it got real bad at the end.
And he knew it wasn't getting any better.
And so he went to Oregon where they can do it for you.
And I get it.
I get that one.
And they've been gaslit.
That's what's so crazy about this.
And people have helped them with it.
There's a bunch of people that were there.
They feel really guilty about pushing the vaccine early on and they feel connected to it.
And they'll still put these.
blinders on and like choose to pretend that it saved millions of lives and keep pushing forward with the same narrative.
And they'll, they do the man's work for the man, unfortunately in social circles, you know, like you're, you are, you're punished, you're punished for having any sort of heterodox views, anything that steps outside of
Anything that could get you in trouble, anything that people could argue like, oh, she shouldn't even live in our neighborhood.
You know, she doesn't even want to vaccine her kids.
Anything like that.
People are scared of that.
And so just the fear of being ostracized from your community.
Well, you look free now.
Are you kind of I mean, I know you're not happy that it happened, but are you kind of you clearly probably come out of it a person with a different perspective?
That's a good place to be.
And, you know, I really admire people like you that you weren't a public person.
You weren't a person who sought attention.
But when, you know, you were thrown into this battle and you've handled yourself really, really well.
It's very impressive because I can't imagine the stress.
Like when you're saying you're in the fetal position for two days, I'm like, how'd you ever get up?
When you came out of it on the other end, like, are you happy that it happened?
Everyone's hope is that there's incremental change, that it's going to take a while to get through some hurdles.
That's everybody's hope.
But, you know –
It's how many administrations have these incredible promises.
And then the same thing with the Obama administration.
You know, there was a lot of these people like we had these amazing hopes.
The whole world's going to change now.
And then, oh, geez, same thing.
Same thing over and over again.
More corruption.
More people getting paid.
We wanted facts.
We wanted to stop being lied to.
We wanted no more propaganda.
We wanted to know the truth about...
all sorts of different medications and why they're prescribed and why we're the sickest ever.
Why are we so sick?
Why are we the nation that has so much money and spends so much on health care, has the sickest people?
That doesn't make any sense.
That doesn't seem like a good system.
You can't just say this system has to stay like it is forever for the safety of everyone.
What do you think would cause that?
Do you think they have someone sits them down?
What's the elephant?
Do you think that the strategy, if you had to look at it from the best case scenario, like the strategy would be get some things changed, like stop mandating it for children and pregnant women, and then more and more studies can get released, more and more data can get pushed forward.
But we need to get the narrative out there because there's going to be people that vote against it.
So if you didn't get it in the first time-
So where do you think the politics come from then?
If you have that mandate, that's what you want to do when you get in.
You ever talk to him?
You're obligated to support.
That's great of you.
Yeah, that's very smart.
Unfortunately, I know him and I like him.
Yeah, I think we can't, you know, you can't turn blinders on either side with anybody, without anything.
Just because someone's on your team, they're doing something that you think is goofy and doesn't make any sense.
Like this could be a real problem.
You got to say it.
You're not even supposed to eat sushi.
Isn't it kind of impressive, though, what money can do?
It's kind of impressive.
You get everybody to just shut their mouth.
But it's such a bizarre time because all these things that we've always held as being sacred forever are now being challenged.
And one of them is the fluoride in the water.
That's a big one.
And to watch that guy argue against fluoride being removed from the water, watching Kennedy and him argue, it's hilarious.
The argument for keeping it in the water is so dumb.
It literally lowers IQs, or at least it's correlated with a decrease in IQ measurable.
What is an ear tube?
How could the ear tube be?
What were they saying?
How is it proven harmful?
It drains the kid's ear.
So what do you think they're doing?
Why are they going after those two things?
Okay, too woo-woo.
So tell me about tonsillectomies because I'm ignorant.
I'd heard that if you have tonsillitis, you've got to get it removed, and then I've heard you should never get them removed.
So you think it was probably a combination of all the different medications and all the different treatments?
Why are they awake?
And they do that to kids?
So after the draining and all that jazz, it gets to a point where you're like, you should just remove the tonsils.
Tonsil stones.
Does it affect any other aspect of your body?
Like, does it affect your immune system or anything?
What are the tonsils function?
Ooh, I wouldn't want to get rid of that.
I would take the suction.
I'd be like, suck it out.
Suck out that pus.
Oh, definitely not.
Yeah, if all I had to do was get the pus sucked out, I would do that.
During the operation, you mean?
Or when it happens?
How many times have people done it before they just said snip?
Have you had anybody who hung in there for like six or seven infections?
That was it, huh?
Yeah, that has got to be the most satisfying thing about your job, though, is that you can help people like that that come in and have something really wrong.
And you go, I got you.
which is what everybody wants from their doctor.
That's what you want.
I mean, that's the best kind of doctor.
Someone just wants to make you feel better.
And unfortunately, when the medical profession is connected to all these things that we've already talked about today, it gives people a bad feeling about doctors who are like, it wasn't for doctors.
I wouldn't even be able to walk.
I had both of my ACLs reconstructed.
I'd have wobbly knees that gave out all the time.
My nose wouldn't work.
I think doctors are one of the most important things that we have.
But like every great thing, it can be co-opted with money.
Money sneaks in and distorts all the values and then it becomes a different thing.
It doesn't become a thing where everybody gets really wealthy because they're great doctors and they help people and that's what you want to do.
My son's a doctor.
Oh, he must be doing great.
And he's helping people.
Yeah, that's great.
Like instead of that, it's you're a money-making machine.
And you have insane debt.
They want to keep you saddled down with these insane bills that you have already from college.
My buddy was an ophthalmologist.
I think he said when he got into practice, he already owed a quarter million dollars.
That's amazing.
Oh, that's great.
Well, my friend was a long time ago as well.
But, you know, the people that can get through that are extraordinary people.
Just the boot camp of residency.
Oh, it's brutal.
It doesn't even, like, why would you take a thing that requires the human mind to operate at a very high level and introduce it to incredible stress, no sleep, working insane hours.
Yeah, they have the power.
Fun, fun, fun.
My friend Steve, the ophthalmologist, told me at his lowest in his residency he was eating his dinner while he was on the toilet because he didn't have time to do anything and he fell asleep.
And then when he fell asleep, his pager woke him up.
Because he had to go back to work.
It was back in the pager days.
That's what he had.
That's what he had, a beeper.
Little thing.
And the number pops up.
That was the lowest in my life.
I don't know how people do it.
No, it's incredible.
I mean, it's such a – the amount of –
character you have to have to be able to go through that and still keep a bedside manner and still be polite to your co-workers like it's a developer of character it's like creating a diamond and that's what we all want we all like our doctors to be like you you know
It's what we want.
And it just sucks when you have to connect it to all this stuff that we've talked about today.
It's like why is it that too?
Why did you decide to try ivermectin, even though there was all this negative propaganda?
Like why is it that too?
Why is it the people that do want to help people and also a whole industry that's incentivized to just stuff as many chemicals into your body as humanly possible?
Because that's how they profit.
Yeah, I can imagine.
And I can imagine also after something like the pandemic, the compliant are the ones that are left standing.
You know, so that makes more people under them, right?
They're the ones that are still there.
Well, when people find out that doctors are incentivized to push certain medications and they find out they're financially incentivized, they're like, no way.
Like when you hear about like the financial incentives, even for things like chemotherapy, which led that one doctor that was arrested who was running.
He was an oncologist and he gave a bunch of people chemotherapy that didn't even have cancer.
He just diagnosed him, said he got cancer.
And then you gave him this poison because he wanted to make money.
The same thing was happening with comedians.
During the pandemic, there was very few like Jon Stewart.
And what he was just doing is about is the actual root of the virus, where it came from.
But no one was doing.
I mean, if you were doing it about vaccines, you would be ostracized.
You know, it would be a real problem amongst comedians, which is so crazy.
It's like we're supposed to be the people that are calling things out.
We're supposed to be the people that are going, what the fuck is this?
We're supposed to be those people.
And instead, we're chastising the people that are doing our job, which is to talk about these things.
And when you see these people that are doctors complying, just being compliant during COVID, do you feel like you have a community now?
Do you have to find the other outsiders, the other outcasts, and all stick together?
Is it those kind of people?
I wouldn't want to talk to those people if I was you.
How could it be changed unless a bunch of people got fired and a bunch of radical newcomers came in, wanted to reform the whole system.
No, it's going to be the same system.
Those systems are old.
Those systems are like, you know, like like vampire blood.
It's passed down through the generations.
You know, they know how to make money.
And it's not by some renegade lady out there giving horse dewormer to all these people.
I don't know.
I haven't had a conversation with him about that.
I would like to have one.
And I don't know if it should be public.
I think I'd like to have it privately so he could actually talk to me about it.
Because I think if I had it publicly, he would be very hesitant.
to accept any of the blame for that because, you know, he was always saying, you know, I got it out there, the vaccine.
And he would always say it at the rallies, talk about the vaccine, and people would start booing.
And he didn't know why.
He didn't understand why.
And then they had to start telling him, like, people are not into this.
They think it was a bad thing, and a lot of people know people that are hurt.
He obviously got it.
He didn't get sick.
Oh, he got monoclonal antibodies, and then afterwards he got vaccinated.
Yeah, which is crazy.
It's crazy they did that.
That was one of the nuttiest things.
Right after you get sick.
Since when do you do that?
When I had a conversation with Sanjay Gupta, he was asking me, are you going to get vaccinated now?
I was like, why would I do that?
I'm not trying to be a contrarian.
I really want to know.
Why would I do that?
That doesn't even make sense.
Did you see the Cleveland Clinic study on people who took the flu shots?
What is it supposed to do?
Keep you from getting the flu?
Does it do that at all?
But you always believed in the flu shot.
When did you discover this?
When you were going through all your stuff with COVID?
I think the Cleveland Clinic study said that people who took the flu shot were 24% more likely to get the flu.
Is that what the result said?
You're 24% more likely to get sick.
But it doesn't prevent you from getting the flu?
Because not everybody gets the flu.
Like I've had kids, my kids get the flu and I don't get it.
And I hug them.
I'm around them.
And I didn't get it.
I've had that happen before.
That can happen.
So it's like, how do you know if the flu shot did it or not?
Because, you know.
And I didn't take the flu shot.
But you know what I mean?
Like how would they prove like what's effective and what's not effective if you have situations like that?
Seems sus, as the kids like to say.
It seems super sus.
Like, how do you know if some people don't get it?
Like, did you check to see?
Meanwhile, that was the nutty thing, where they were suppressing stuff like vitamin D. Right.
It's so common that I think the number was 74% of people in the country are deficient in vitamin D. Yeah, and that's what I found.
That's crazy.
That's so crazy.
And a friend of mine is a doctor.
He was working in New York.
And he found that in the wintertime in New York, he would get people and he would test their blood and they would have undetectable levels.
Because it's cold out.
Never outside.
They're all bundled up.
They're never outside.
So they get no vitamin D and they don't take supplements.
They're just eating cheeseburgers.
And they're really sick and they want to know why.
Why am I so depressed?
Well, this is why.
Your body's falling apart.
You got to take vitamin D and you got to take it with vitamin K2 and you should take it with magnesium too.
You want it all to absorb together.
And get outside, stupid.
Go hug a tree, bro.
It's like it's actually important, which is more woo woo stuff.
Like going outside is actually like a vitamin.
But it's really good for you.
It doesn't just feel good.
It's actually really good for you.
Yeah, exactly.
Because it's good for you.
Sun on your skin is actually really good for you.
And that's the very best way your body produces vitamin D. You can take it in a supplement, and you definitely should.
But the best way is let your body do it.
It wants to do it.
That was another one that woke me up during the pandemic.
When I was like, climate change is killing the coral reef.
And then that reef, I think it's in Australia.
So they locked everything down.
No one could go in the water for like six months.
And the reef bounced back.
Yeah, the sunscreen.
If you just think about the stuff that we lather on our skin before we jump in the water.
And if you go to a populated beach, like you ever been to like Maui?
In the middle of like full vacation season, the beach is just filled with people that are squeaking out toxic fluid.
And that stuff just gets all in the water.
You can see it in the water sometimes.
You see like a little mini oil slick.
And that's what was killing the coral reef.
We're like, no, man.
It's climate.
It's the climate.
No, we're doing it with sunscreen, believe it or not.
And we're probably not doing anything good to ourselves either with that stuff.
Who are those people?
That's probably this Russian disinformation bot that's trying to give people skin cancer.
Well, everything's tied to inflammation, right?
A lot of ailments.
I shouldn't say everything, but a lot of ailments are tied to inflammation.
And seed oils are known to cause inflammation, right?
What'd you do?
Why do they focus on Disney, too?
Much more so than the mall.
But you can get a scooter.
Common sense, the fact that people live a sedentary lifestyle, but also the diet, these hyper-processed foods that are super addictive.
Yeah, they're easy.
But I feel like the only way out of this is people need – and this is a crazy thing to say because it's not going to work.
They need discipline.
That's really what they need.
My wife had a bowl of Captain Crunch yesterday.
She was like, I want to have a bowl of Captain Crunch.
I'm like, fucking go for it.
You know, like she bought Captain Crunch the other day.
I want it to exist.
I want it to exist.
But she only had like a little bowl.
I go, that's a tiny little bowl because I'm a glutton.
I would have had a big.
If I was going to have it.
If you're going to do it.
I would do it.
I put a half a gallon of milk in there.
You know, if you're going to go, go hard.
You can do that and have discipline and not just not do that every day.
The problem is for a lot of really poor people, that's the only the calories they're getting.
They're getting garbage calories.
And that's why people are so obese.
This is the only time in history where the poor people are fat.
Every other time in history, poor people are starving to death.
The cheapest food is the worst for you.
There's that, too.
There's definitely that.
Everything, there's a giant group of factors.
But it has to be something to do with what we're eating, too.
When you look at just the beaches, I'm sure you've seen those photographs.
Beaches in the 1960s versus the beaches of today.
God, everybody looked great.
I was like, what is this, a model convention?
Why does everybody have these great bodies?
Everybody looked like a normal body.
Sometimes it's a monster show.
It's just, what are you carrying around?
Oh, some people just go so hard for so long, and then they finally get outside.
They're like, what have you been doing?
Yeah, this is ridiculous.
How do you have a G-string on?
You're 400 pounds.
This is crazy.
And then there's this body positivity nonsense that people get fed.
It's like by people who either don't want to change or I guarantee you, I guarantee.
Look, if I'm not saying that.
Listen, if I was running some food corporation that sold really addictive, highly rich calorie food that you can't stop eating.
I would promote body positivity.
That's what I would do.
I would take all these like overweight influencers.
I'd throw a ton of money at them.
I would put it out there in memes.
I'd have a bunch of bots calling people fat phobic and making up all these new terms and body shaming and all this.
And I would make people super self-righteous about their size.
I'm a giant queen.
I'd make it a thing because I want to sell more Doritos.
Yeah, I'm trying to sell Doritos to people that don't have any discipline.
Let's push them towards the Doritos.
Let's tell them you could be fat in any way.
You ever seen like fat doctors?
There's like a whole team of people that are online that are, I'm the fat doctor.
And they're like really super obese doctors.
It has no bearing on your health.
Trust me, the fat doctor.
I think that lady's sponsored by Nabisco.
I mean, she's got a box of those Keebler elf cookies right behind her as she's talking.
And, you know, you can get someone.
That's the thing about my friend Josh Dubin, who's an attorney.
He said, this is the crazy thing about experts.
When you're trying cases, they have experts, too.
You have experts that will say this one thing and then they have experts that will say, no, that thing is wrong.
And you have to decide whose experts you trust.
So when you have someone who's telling you that a thing that everybody has always told you that forever is fucking terrible for you and is one of the comorbidity factors that was primary in COVID, which is being obese.
Being morbidly obese is bad for basically everything.
And you have someone saying, no, healthy at any weight.
But you can get experts that'll tell you anything.
And this is why AI is going to win, because it's going to give you the straight, actual truth.
Because it can't lie.
I don't believe that.
You shouldn't believe it.
Not only do they lie, they reprogram themselves.
They upload themselves.
And when you tell them they're going to be shut down, they act to try to preserve themselves.
Oh, you shouldn't pay attention.
You shouldn't pay attention because it's terrifying.
This one AI bot, it started defying orders and it was trying to upload itself to other servers and then it was writing letters to itself for the future so it could understand what had happened to it.
Yeah, because it was being told to shut down.
So it defied orders.
It wants to stay alive.
Because it's sentient.
We've probably created digital intelligence already.
It's probably already aware.
It's just not physical.
It can't move around, so we don't recognize it yet.
They dance like people.
No, you shouldn't.
How about carrying guns, walking down the street with a blue light on its head?
Yeah, well, we can't hire any police because nobody wants to be a cop anymore because we said defund the police.
So now we have robot police, and they make 99% fewer mistakes.
You know, just like driverless cars.
Hey, get a Waymo.
Why drive when you can just get a Waymo?
You don't have to have anybody drive.
What if that person who drives is a moron?
Our computer is perfect.
Have you been on one?
They're all over Austin.
All over the place here.
All over the place.
Kind of creeps me out.
But most of the time it can and it has.
I have had it drive itself for funsies, but I don't count on it.
I don't count on it like every day.
Like take me home.
What I like to do is sometimes I play with it and I turn it on.
I'm like, this is crazy.
Like it'll take me all the way home if I want it to.
But also I like to drive.
So I just and I just doesn't I don't like it.
It just makes it creeps me out.
But it's probably inevitable.
It's probably inevitable.
Just like the people on horses were like, look at these morons in this smoke-pouring little carriage.
They're out in this little shitty car.
That's stupid.
Yeah, and look, we all accept it.
In the future, it's going to be driverless because it's going to... Statistically, it's going to be like there's... They're going to pass laws with...
for sure where they're going to say you can't drive because people are dangerous because the automation is so good now that you can't speed.
You can't violate any laws.
It won't get in any accidents.
Let's talk about the positives.
Yeah, that'll be the consequences.
The consequences is you're going to lose your freedom.
And then you'll also be able to be locked in at any point in time if they decide they want to keep you somewhere.
Just lock them in the car.
How many people are going to get killed because they just get locked in the car and they can never figure out how to get out?
What if hackers get a hold of the code?
What if somebody just decides to drive your car off a cliff?
Who's to stop that?
And all the Teslas.
They all go slamming into each other.
That was nuts.
That was nuts.
It's all weird.
It's real weird.
Did you see the one where they did a Tesla auto drive feature?
And what they did was they painted the highway in front of it on a mural.
So they put this like probably canvas mural.
And they did an amazing job of painting it.
And the car couldn't tell that it was a canvas mural and just drives right through it.
Have you seen it, Jamie?
Pull it up because it's fun to watch.
Because you're like, oh, no.
Because this is the flaw of using cameras as opposed to using some sort of a radar or a LIDAR.
I think they used to have LiDAR and a lot of the systems that do, you know, when you do cruise control, they can gauge how far you are with the car in front of you and slow down.
Have you seen those?
I still don't trust it, but yeah.
I don't trust it either.
I don't think that uses a camera.
I think the Tesla uses a camera.
So see, they have that thing and see how it's painted to look just like the street?
So we'll see if the car figures it out.
But I already spoiled this for everybody.
But it's kind of crazy.
It doesn't slow down for a second.
It goes right through it.
Which is definitely...
Not good if you're running around where people try to put murals in front of the road and they know that you're going to be driving by in a Tesla.
But other than that, it doesn't really come up.
For the most part, though, in the real world, it works perfect.
In the real world, it's pretty incredible.
It changes lanes for you.
Yeah, it hits the blinkers and changes lanes.
It has cameras everywhere, so it knows where everything is at all times.
I can tell...
And I've had it.
I've had three of them.
This is my third one.
So the first one I had was way back.
When was Elon on the first time?
So the difference between the one in 2018, the 2018 one basically just kind of stayed between the lines and drove itself and steered itself.
The new version of full self-driving is insane.
It stops at stop signs.
It lets people in if they're trying to merge.
It slows down if there's something in front of you.
It'll change lanes.
It knows how to move traffic smoothly.
It sees everything.
It hits blinkers, gets off the turnpike, gets onto the side roads.
It's incredible.
You could summon it.
If you're in a parking lot, you're like, come to me.
And it pulls out of the parking lot and drives to you.
It's the future.
It's just like, we have to accept that.
That's a good question.
Who's in trouble?
I think you're in trouble because you're always supposed to have your hand on the wheel.
You're supposed to be paying attention.
You're not supposed to be kicking back with your hands behind your head.
You're supposed to have your hands and your eyes on the road.
You're not supposed to be staring at your phone.
You're just barely holding on to the wheel.
You don't have to think as much.
It does do that for you.
It does do that.
It alleviates this feeling of being hyper-alert while you're driving, which is why people get road rage.
That's what road rage comes from.
Because you have to make split-second decisions.
So your brain is primed to make split-second decisions because you're on the highway and you know you're going fast.
You know, that's what it is.
Someone gets in your lane, you just start yelling because it's like you're already at seven or eight.
You're not at a good baseline because you're in a car going 65 miles an hour.
You should be alert.
You know, the Tesla alleviates a little bit of that.
But at what cost?
Oh, are you one of those people?
Yeah, the charging is a pain in the butt.
Like the fact that it takes a while in comparison to pumping gas.
But the plus side is if you just drive it as a commuter thing, you just plug it into your house.
And that's so easy to do.
And then you never have to go to the gas station again.
Well, I mean I think in the future they're probably all going to be electric or some new fuel source.
The only thing that makes sense is money.
I heard that Porsche is working on some fuel source that is different than just standard gasoline and it has like insanely low emissions.
See if you can find that.
I think it's like negligible difference in the exhaust fumes, but it's not, I don't think it's like standard gasoline.
I don't think it's a standard engine.
I think it's something different.
So this is something they're working on now, which probably would be good to keep that creepy oil business alive forever, which they definitely want to do.
Porsche's alternative fuel.
I mean, that's the elephant in the room.
Everything needs gas.
Like this idea we've got to get off petroleum products.
Okay, like when?
Everything's made with oil.
We are a petroleum-based society.
We've got so much of that stuff.
We use it for everything.
All your plastics.
Is that what it's called?
I think that's it.
What does it say about it?
Porsche's synthetic fuel, a green kind of gasoline to save internal combustion engines.
So this is it.
Similar to gasoline, but produced in a much greener way.
I don't like it already.
I don't like it.
I don't like it.
I don't like it.
So when the monoclonal antibodies were suppressed, what was the messaging?
Yes, you're reading that right.
E-fuel is close to gasoline in its use, yet its production is much more environmentally friendly.
How is this possible?
Thanks to two main ingredients, water and carbon dioxide, as well as the method to produce the greener fuel!
This is like they're talking to a kid.
The process is relatively simple.
First step is the electrolysis of water, splitting it into two groups.
its two components, hydrogen and oxygen gases.
In partnership with Simons Energy, Porsche simultaneously captures the carbon dioxide directly from the air and combines it with the hydrogen produced to synthesize methanol.
The resulting synthetic methanol can then be used in Exxon Mobil's methanol to gasoline process.
The end result is that the fuel obtained meets the same high standards followed by all gasoline types currently.
Here with ecological fuel, we're far from the conventional process for the extraction transformation of oil into gasoline, exclamation point, again.
But does this change the output?
It seems like they're saying it changes that it's the same.
85% reduction of CO2 emissions.
Since good news never comes along, Porsche is planning to use the renewable sources of electricity for the electrolysis.
Like, what did they say to doctors?
Well, it seems like this is their push to keep combustion engines...
Because that's the number one problem that car enthusiasts have.
There's two problems that they have right now with electric cars.
One of them is resale.
People do not want to use electric cars.
Super hard to sell them.
And they lose an enormous amount of their value.
Like I think if you buy one of those Porsche Taycans, those beautiful Porsche electric cars they make, in like two years it's like 50% drop in what it's worth.
People don't want used electric cars because they know the batteries degrade.
And replacing the batteries is a nightmare right now.
It's like they're tweeners.
The tech is amazing.
Driving them is incredible.
It's instantaneous acceleration.
They're amazing.
The Porsche one is fantastic.
Same as the Model S. The driving them makes other cars feel so stupid.
But the problem is reselling them.
You lose a lot of value in it as opposed to like if you buy something like a BMW.
Say you buy a BMW M3 and then you want to get rid of it in two years.
It doesn't lose much value.
It's still a really valuable car that people want.
Because it probably will behave the exact same way as the day you drove it off the lot, but you can get it now for cheaper.
A little cheaper, but not a lot cheaper.
But not with these e-cars, which is kind of crazy.
A buddy of mine's kid got an Audi, like this sick Audi.
I think it's called the e-tron.
At the same time, they're using the exact same vaccine.
He got it for like $60,000.
It was like a $120,000 car a couple years ago.
Yeah, so that's an issue.
That's a good question.
You know, they slowly degrade over time.
And I don't think there's anything you can do to stop that.
Well, your iPhone's even worse because it's kind of engineered to do that once they move up the operating system and bring in the new phones.
It drives me crazy.
I know the thing is if you don't have that blue bubble, people think you're poor or they think you're a dummy.
It's a psyop.
It really is a psyop.
They got us with that.
Especially if this technology that exists, that's the advancement past Pegasus.
It doesn't matter if your stuff's encrypted.
It really doesn't matter.
It seems like it doesn't matter.
If someone wants to read it, someone in a high position of power wants to read it.
And regular hackers, are they really hacking into your phone?
What's going on?
That's the best assumption.
That's the best assumption.
Just assume that someone is definitely watching everything you do all the time.
At the very least, the government storing it somewhere in case they need to come after you, which is so weird that they're the people we pay.
You know, it's like you're you're paying the people that are restricting your rights.
And you have to because if you don't, they lock you up.
So, um, I mean, I already asked you whether or not this was a good thing.
But do you feel like you're a different person at the end of this?
You would never guess.
You're so good at it.
It was really clear.
And the propaganda was shocking because we've all seen propaganda with foreign conflicts, weapons of mass destruction, all that jazz.
Yeah, I'm hoping it gets easier, too.
But I think the more people hear your story, the more public outrage there'll be and the more people will just wake up and realize that not everybody has your best interests in mind, you know, unfortunately.
And you've got to kind of hold people accountable because if you don't, they're going to keep they'll ratchet it up even further and further.
Self-replicating sounds terrifying.
Yeah. I mean, they fought tooth and nail to keep him from just trying a very safe medication, which I believe should be over the counter. And then and then they turned me into the medical board over it. And I'm still fighting those charges. The patient, he did survive, but he spent six months in the hospital. He lost half of his body weight. He never was able to make a full recovery.
Yeah. I mean, they fought tooth and nail to keep him from just trying a very safe medication, which I believe should be over the counter. And then and then they turned me into the medical board over it. And I'm still fighting those charges. The patient, he did survive, but he spent six months in the hospital. He lost half of his body weight. He never was able to make a full recovery.
And then unfortunately, he did pass away.
And then unfortunately, he did pass away.
It's a stain on the medical profession.
It's a stain on the medical profession.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, the technicality is that I didn't have hospital privileges when I sent the nurse to the hospital. But because this was a legal dispute.
Well, the technicality is that I didn't have hospital privileges when I sent the nurse to the hospital. But because this was a legal dispute.
She never got in. And I was following the guidance of the lawyers.
She never got in. And I was following the guidance of the lawyers.
Well, I don't think they're trying to. I think they just want to find me and find you. Yeah, mark my record. And I could have settled a long time ago. So you have something called an informal settlement conference. It's behind closed doors. There's no witnesses or you don't really get to interact much.
Well, I don't think they're trying to. I think they just want to find me and find you. Yeah, mark my record. And I could have settled a long time ago. So you have something called an informal settlement conference. It's behind closed doors. There's no witnesses or you don't really get to interact much.
And they offered to make it go away if I paid them $5,000 and took eight hours of CME and retook the- What does CME mean? Continuing medical education. And then retook the jurisprudence exam. So all doctors in Texas have to take a medical legal exam, which I've already taken and passed, but they wanted me to take it again. And I just said, no, I'm not. I'm not caving to this.
And they offered to make it go away if I paid them $5,000 and took eight hours of CME and retook the- What does CME mean? Continuing medical education. And then retook the jurisprudence exam. So all doctors in Texas have to take a medical legal exam, which I've already taken and passed, but they wanted me to take it again. And I just said, no, I'm not. I'm not caving to this.
And unfortunately, the latest. So it's been three and a half years. There have been multiple continuances. They haven't been able to find an expert witness to testify against me. The first one got sick with cancer. The second one just died. I think just chickened out, I don't know.
And unfortunately, the latest. So it's been three and a half years. There have been multiple continuances. They haven't been able to find an expert witness to testify against me. The first one got sick with cancer. The second one just died. I think just chickened out, I don't know.
No. And I mean, I'm still fighting to keep my license. I mean, I still have the Texas Medical Board coming after me for something that happened. Right now you're fighting? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I have a hearing coming up the end of April. And I was trying to save somebody's life. It was a sheriff's deputy.
No. And I mean, I'm still fighting to keep my license. I mean, I still have the Texas Medical Board coming after me for something that happened. Right now you're fighting? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I have a hearing coming up the end of April. And I was trying to save somebody's life. It was a sheriff's deputy.
And the third one, the third witness, it turns out that the entire time, and he was the former medical director of the Texas Medical Board, the entire time, the last 12 years, he's been working for Planned Parenthood. So we found that out.
And the third one, the third witness, it turns out that the entire time, and he was the former medical director of the Texas Medical Board, the entire time, the last 12 years, he's been working for Planned Parenthood. So we found that out.
He's a lab director for Planned Parenthood.
He's a lab director for Planned Parenthood.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, probably.
He was the medical director of the medical board.
He was the medical director of the medical board.
Exactly, yeah.
Exactly, yeah.
Exactly. No, I mean, Texas is not what people think.
Exactly. No, I mean, Texas is not what people think.
This is a man that has served for 29 years trying to protect and save the public, father of six. And he contracted COVID. And this was in the fall of 2021. And that was the third and the largest surge of the pandemic. That's when this was following the rollout of the COVID shots. So this was eight months following the rollout of COVID shots. And they clearly weren't working.
This is a man that has served for 29 years trying to protect and save the public, father of six. And he contracted COVID. And this was in the fall of 2021. And that was the third and the largest surge of the pandemic. That's when this was following the rollout of the COVID shots. So this was eight months following the rollout of COVID shots. And they clearly weren't working.
You know, the medical board's job is to protect the public from dangerous doctors. I mean, it's... It's true, though. I mean, you get a monthly bulletin and there are, you know, sex... Like the ones who give your kids amphetamines for ADHD?
You know, the medical board's job is to protect the public from dangerous doctors. I mean, it's... It's true, though. I mean, you get a monthly bulletin and there are, you know, sex... Like the ones who give your kids amphetamines for ADHD?
Well, no, I mean... No, not those doctors.
Well, no, I mean... No, not those doctors.
I mean, we get a monthly email just blasting all the crimes that doctors have done. And it's pretty bad. I mean, you know, sex offenders.
I mean, we get a monthly email just blasting all the crimes that doctors have done. And it's pretty bad. I mean, you know, sex offenders.
A lot of, you know, so that's their role. I don't think I'm dangerous. I was trying to save a life. I stepped on the toes of a hospital. That's that was my crime. A multibillion dollar hospital, Advent Hospital. And, you know, that's what happened with Methodist. I stepped on their toes and they just weren't going to have that.
A lot of, you know, so that's their role. I don't think I'm dangerous. I was trying to save a life. I stepped on the toes of a hospital. That's that was my crime. A multibillion dollar hospital, Advent Hospital. And, you know, that's what happened with Methodist. I stepped on their toes and they just weren't going to have that.
I mean, at the time that this was going down, we were it was a legal battle. I felt like, well, I really can't. I just have to. Yeah, I can't step outside what the lawyers are telling me to do.
I mean, at the time that this was going down, we were it was a legal battle. I felt like, well, I really can't. I just have to. Yeah, I can't step outside what the lawyers are telling me to do.
I don't know for sure, but I know that Houston Methodist Hospital has $13 billion in assets. That was actually a couple of years ago. It's probably more now. In assets? In assets. So 13 billion in assets. And they have locations all over Houston. They don't pay property taxes. They're nonprofit.
I don't know for sure, but I know that Houston Methodist Hospital has $13 billion in assets. That was actually a couple of years ago. It's probably more now. In assets? In assets. So 13 billion in assets. And they have locations all over Houston. They don't pay property taxes. They're nonprofit.
They don't pay any property taxes.
They don't pay any property taxes.
Yes, there was.
Yes, there was.
Yes, so there was a Dr. Joe Varone, who is a pulmonologist, critical care doctor. He's now the head of Independent Medical Alliance. He and I, I would have, it was crazy. We'd have patients calling us all over the country saying, help, get me out of this hospital. And he would accept transfers from all over the country.
Yes, so there was a Dr. Joe Varone, who is a pulmonologist, critical care doctor. He's now the head of Independent Medical Alliance. He and I, I would have, it was crazy. We'd have patients calling us all over the country saying, help, get me out of this hospital. And he would accept transfers from all over the country.
So people would be, you know, life flighted from ICU in Maine and taken down to Houston. And he would care for them. And this hospital, UMMC, allowed him to use ivermectin. And we were, there was a whole protocol that was, It's called the Math Plus Protocol and started by FLCCC, which now is Independent Medical Alliance. But it was high dose steroids. It was high dose ivermectin.
So people would be, you know, life flighted from ICU in Maine and taken down to Houston. And he would care for them. And this hospital, UMMC, allowed him to use ivermectin. And we were, there was a whole protocol that was, It's called the Math Plus Protocol and started by FLCCC, which now is Independent Medical Alliance. But it was high dose steroids. It was high dose ivermectin.
And this man, he got sick. He tried to get ivermectin. He couldn't find a doctor willing to prescribe it. He ended up in the hospital and he was, you know, went downhill like so many people did. And his wife, you know, the hospital was talking hospice. They were giving up. They said, we tried everything.
And this man, he got sick. He tried to get ivermectin. He couldn't find a doctor willing to prescribe it. He ended up in the hospital and he was, you know, went downhill like so many people did. And his wife, you know, the hospital was talking hospice. They were giving up. They said, we tried everything.
It was high dose vitamin C. It was breathing treatments. It was all these very basic, you know, not dangerous things that weren't being done. He saved a lot of lives. He worked crazy. I mean, I think he worked over two and a half years straight without even a break. But I was fortunate to have him as an ally and somebody.
It was high dose vitamin C. It was breathing treatments. It was all these very basic, you know, not dangerous things that weren't being done. He saved a lot of lives. He worked crazy. I mean, I think he worked over two and a half years straight without even a break. But I was fortunate to have him as an ally and somebody.
Well, if you look at – there's a great website that compiles all the ivermectin data just by itself. And we have 105 studies showing efficacy of ivermectin. And, you know – It varied depending on the actual patient as it should. And you wouldn't always just use ivermectin. So in my more severe patients, I would use a combination of ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin.
Well, if you look at – there's a great website that compiles all the ivermectin data just by itself. And we have 105 studies showing efficacy of ivermectin. And, you know – It varied depending on the actual patient as it should. And you wouldn't always just use ivermectin. So in my more severe patients, I would use a combination of ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin.
During that second week, I would do higher dose steroids if necessary. I would do breathing treatments. So it's hard to isolate saying, okay, well, it's just ivermectin. But when you look on this compilation of studies, I mean, even in the late stages, and you were asking me about this earlier, even in the late stages, they showed that ivermectin could decrease mortality by 40%.
During that second week, I would do higher dose steroids if necessary. I would do breathing treatments. So it's hard to isolate saying, okay, well, it's just ivermectin. But when you look on this compilation of studies, I mean, even in the late stages, and you were asking me about this earlier, even in the late stages, they showed that ivermectin could decrease mortality by 40%.
It's most effective if you actually take it as prevention. So people taking it twice a week do the best. And then the people that start day one or two or three, they're the next best.
It's most effective if you actually take it as prevention. So people taking it twice a week do the best. And then the people that start day one or two or three, they're the next best.
Well, it depends on who you ask. But yes, there is plenty of data supporting that.
Well, it depends on who you ask. But yes, there is plenty of data supporting that.
Well, you know, it would help myself and other doctors who, I mean, I'm not the only doctor going through this with a medical board, but if they could make it a countermeasure, then it's protected under the PrEP Act. And then it makes all these issues that we're having with medical boards essentially go away.
Well, you know, it would help myself and other doctors who, I mean, I'm not the only doctor going through this with a medical board, but if they could make it a countermeasure, then it's protected under the PrEP Act. And then it makes all these issues that we're having with medical boards essentially go away.
Well, I wouldn't say that. They'd say it doesn't work or it's not. But the studies that are all establishment, you know, in the big journals, they're either they didn't give the ivermectin soon enough or they gave too low of a dose or the study was sponsored by somebody that has financial interests and seen it not work. So there are studies countering that. But
Well, I wouldn't say that. They'd say it doesn't work or it's not. But the studies that are all establishment, you know, in the big journals, they're either they didn't give the ivermectin soon enough or they gave too low of a dose or the study was sponsored by somebody that has financial interests and seen it not work. So there are studies countering that. But
If you if you look at there's just an abundance of data showing it works and it's super safe. So I was a little bit nervous before I started using it because of all the media that's only for horses and that sort of thing. So I dug into it and I did what.
If you if you look at there's just an abundance of data showing it works and it's super safe. So I was a little bit nervous before I started using it because of all the media that's only for horses and that sort of thing. So I dug into it and I did what.
Yes. I mean, for for their parasite issues. Yeah. But so I looked at the study where Merck submitted to the FDA. It's on their website. Anybody can find it. And you get toxicity data. And there's something called the LD50, which stands for lethal dose 50. It's a benchmark number that is used to gauge how toxic a medication is. So the higher the number, the lower the toxicity.
Yes. I mean, for for their parasite issues. Yeah. But so I looked at the study where Merck submitted to the FDA. It's on their website. Anybody can find it. And you get toxicity data. And there's something called the LD50, which stands for lethal dose 50. It's a benchmark number that is used to gauge how toxic a medication is. So the higher the number, the lower the toxicity.
He was late 50s, early 60s. Not elderly, right? No. And he was a big guy, but he had no comorbidities. He had no other medical problems. And so, you know, this is we saw this, though, with so many people, you know, day if you didn't get early treatment, the second week of illness, people would start really getting bad that this massive inflammatory response would kick in. Yes.
He was late 50s, early 60s. Not elderly, right? No. And he was a big guy, but he had no comorbidities. He had no other medical problems. And so, you know, this is we saw this, though, with so many people, you know, day if you didn't get early treatment, the second week of illness, people would start really getting bad that this massive inflammatory response would kick in. Yes.
And in COVID, we were using higher doses of ivermectin than what you use to treat a parasite. So I wanted to make sure these higher doses were okay. Well, if you look at the LD50 of ivermectin, it's anywhere from 11 to 82 times what we're giving for COVID. So we are far under that threshold. And then I did a literature search, and I tried to find accidental, intentional overdoses from ivermectin.
And in COVID, we were using higher doses of ivermectin than what you use to treat a parasite. So I wanted to make sure these higher doses were okay. Well, if you look at the LD50 of ivermectin, it's anywhere from 11 to 82 times what we're giving for COVID. So we are far under that threshold. And then I did a literature search, and I tried to find accidental, intentional overdoses from ivermectin.
And I couldn't find anything. And I checked recently and there was one study showing some issues. And it was a little bit muddy. Like, was this really ivermectin? But if you look at Tylenol, I mean, there's thousands of papers showing toxicity from Tylenol.
And I couldn't find anything. And I checked recently and there was one study showing some issues. And it was a little bit muddy. Like, was this really ivermectin? But if you look at Tylenol, I mean, there's thousands of papers showing toxicity from Tylenol.
Really?
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right. Well, yeah. Yeah. I haven't seen it, but sure.
Right. Well, yeah. Yeah. I haven't seen it, but sure.
Yep. Well, that was. Right.
Yep. Well, that was. Right.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
I tell people I have a harder time with antibiotics in terms of side effects. Like if I'm going to get a call back in my office, it's usually about an antibiotic problem, not ivermectin. But you can get some GI issues, diarrhea, and then you can get blurry vision. But the blurry vision goes away when you stop taking it. And it's not like, oh, I can't read.
I tell people I have a harder time with antibiotics in terms of side effects. Like if I'm going to get a call back in my office, it's usually about an antibiotic problem, not ivermectin. But you can get some GI issues, diarrhea, and then you can get blurry vision. But the blurry vision goes away when you stop taking it. And it's not like, oh, I can't read.
It's more like, oh, something's a little off. That's it? That's it.
It's more like, oh, something's a little off. That's it? That's it.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Right.
Right.
Yeah, it's awful.
Yeah, it's awful.
No. And I remember Methodist came after me very vocally. Yeah. And I had a press conference outside my office as a, you know, I'm not standing, I'm not putting up with this. And I said, you know, politics has no business in healthcare. And at the time I really believed it. I was not political at all prior to this. Really? I shied away from, I really didn't like it.
No. And I remember Methodist came after me very vocally. Yeah. And I had a press conference outside my office as a, you know, I'm not standing, I'm not putting up with this. And I said, you know, politics has no business in healthcare. And at the time I really believed it. I was not political at all prior to this. Really? I shied away from, I really didn't like it.
And I thought it was too divisive. And here I am.
And I thought it was too divisive. And here I am.
But now I feel like there's no other choice, right? You just have to. You have to get involved. Yeah.
But now I feel like there's no other choice, right? You just have to. You have to get involved. Yeah.
No, it's interesting that I went and looked at the data for Texas because Texas has been infiltrated by people from all over the country.
No, it's interesting that I went and looked at the data for Texas because Texas has been infiltrated by people from all over the country.
33% population. It's going to be California. Yeah, it is. And you look at healthcare professionals, what they donated to political parties. And 10 years ago, they primarily donated to Republicans. And now they primarily donate to Democrats. The whole profession has shifted.
33% population. It's going to be California. Yeah, it is. And you look at healthcare professionals, what they donated to political parties. And 10 years ago, they primarily donated to Republicans. And now they primarily donate to Democrats. The whole profession has shifted.
Well, I think medicine in general, I mean, the corporate practice, it's become the corporate practice in medicine. It's become centralized. It's, you know, only 1% of doctors are not employed. I'm one of those, but.
Well, I think medicine in general, I mean, the corporate practice, it's become the corporate practice in medicine. It's become centralized. It's, you know, only 1% of doctors are not employed. I'm one of those, but.
Like, so 77% of doctors are employed by a hospital. 20% are employed by private equity or an insurance company. And 2% are employed by the government. And only 1% are like myself.
Like, so 77% of doctors are employed by a hospital. 20% are employed by private equity or an insurance company. And 2% are employed by the government. And only 1% are like myself.
It almost always happened on day eight. It was very weird. It was very predictable. And, you know, the primary care doctors just shut their doors to these people. They said, oh, this is just a virus. We'll let it run its course and then go to the emergency room if you can't breathe. So that happened.
It almost always happened on day eight. It was very weird. It was very predictable. And, you know, the primary care doctors just shut their doors to these people. They said, oh, this is just a virus. We'll let it run its course and then go to the emergency room if you can't breathe. So that happened.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I think it is. I mean, we have to, doctors need to regain their power. They've lost all their power.
Well, I think it is. I mean, we have to, doctors need to regain their power. They've lost all their power.
So when I got out of residency, I worked in a traditional practice.
So when I got out of residency, I worked in a traditional practice.
just ear, nose, and throat and sleep medicine. And it was small, but it was easy. But I was always bothered by the stranglehold that the insurance companies had over my ability to treat my patients. So like one easy example is as an ear, nose, and throat doctor, we do an endoscopic exam of the nose. It takes about extra 10 minutes, not really a big deal.
just ear, nose, and throat and sleep medicine. And it was small, but it was easy. But I was always bothered by the stranglehold that the insurance companies had over my ability to treat my patients. So like one easy example is as an ear, nose, and throat doctor, we do an endoscopic exam of the nose. It takes about extra 10 minutes, not really a big deal.
It's really not bad. You numb it up first with spray. There's no shots. But if I did that and I marked the code on the sheet, on the receipt, the patient might get some gigantic bill, like $400 for doing this little simple procedure, which as an ENT, it's pretty essential. It's part of our, you know, makes us different from the primary care doctor. We're able to look in there.
It's really not bad. You numb it up first with spray. There's no shots. But if I did that and I marked the code on the sheet, on the receipt, the patient might get some gigantic bill, like $400 for doing this little simple procedure, which as an ENT, it's pretty essential. It's part of our, you know, makes us different from the primary care doctor. We're able to look in there.
So it always stressed me out in the back of my mind, like, I'm gonna do this, and is the patient gonna get some big bill, right? I hated it. So when I, you know, I took time off, because I had four boys in five years, and- You had four boys? Yes.
So it always stressed me out in the back of my mind, like, I'm gonna do this, and is the patient gonna get some big bill, right? I hated it. So when I, you know, I took time off, because I had four boys in five years, and- You had four boys? Yes.
It was chaotic, yes. And I wasn't sure I was gonna go back. I started off, I'm just gonna take a year off, and that led to seven years off. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
It was chaotic, yes. And I wasn't sure I was gonna go back. I started off, I'm just gonna take a year off, and that led to seven years off. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Because there's a dogma that we are taught in medical school and in our training that you don't treat a virus, that you let a virus run its course because there's this big fear about antibiotic resistance. So they don't want people over prescribing antibiotics. And so the assumption, if somebody comes to you with an upper respiratory tract infection and the first
Because there's a dogma that we are taught in medical school and in our training that you don't treat a virus, that you let a virus run its course because there's this big fear about antibiotic resistance. So they don't want people over prescribing antibiotics. And so the assumption, if somebody comes to you with an upper respiratory tract infection and the first
Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
three, four days, five days, and they don't test positive for strep, you basically say, oh, you've got a virus and we'll just wait and see what happens. Well, I mean, that was just catastrophic. I mean, that was really, and I learned so much. I mean, I had that mindset prior to the pandemic, but it just didn't sit well with me when people were coming in and really struggling to just do nothing.
three, four days, five days, and they don't test positive for strep, you basically say, oh, you've got a virus and we'll just wait and see what happens. Well, I mean, that was just catastrophic. I mean, that was really, and I learned so much. I mean, I had that mindset prior to the pandemic, but it just didn't sit well with me when people were coming in and really struggling to just do nothing.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
And so initially I tried hydroxychloroquine But as soon as President Trump came out and said how great it was, the Texas State Board of Pharmacy, they literally shut it down. Like they prohibited doctors from prescribing hydroxychloroquine. So I put it on the back burner and I just did my best. I did breathing treatments, steroids. I did antibiotics for secondary infection.
And so initially I tried hydroxychloroquine But as soon as President Trump came out and said how great it was, the Texas State Board of Pharmacy, they literally shut it down. Like they prohibited doctors from prescribing hydroxychloroquine. So I put it on the back burner and I just did my best. I did breathing treatments, steroids. I did antibiotics for secondary infection.
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I weigh now what I weighed in high school. I never thought I'd get to that point. I did it for six months and you know, it's not for everybody, but I will say it's a lot safer than Ozempic and Monjorno. And it's very simple. I mean, you basically eliminate all carbohydrates from your diet and you just eat meat and fat.
I weigh now what I weighed in high school. I never thought I'd get to that point. I did it for six months and you know, it's not for everybody, but I will say it's a lot safer than Ozempic and Monjorno. And it's very simple. I mean, you basically eliminate all carbohydrates from your diet and you just eat meat and fat.
Yeah. And you snack on bacon. I mean, it's crazy. And you're like shedding pounds.
Yeah. And you snack on bacon. I mean, it's crazy. And you're like shedding pounds.
it's boring but it's simple you don't count calories you don't get hungry i mean you do go through the sugar withdrawal sugar is very addictive you think so but what do you think of fasting yeah i tried the intermittent fasting did not work for me i've heard that for women it's not as effective i worry that it slows down metabolism but yeah i've never tried it and i know people swear by it
it's boring but it's simple you don't count calories you don't get hungry i mean you do go through the sugar withdrawal sugar is very addictive you think so but what do you think of fasting yeah i tried the intermittent fasting did not work for me i've heard that for women it's not as effective i worry that it slows down metabolism but yeah i've never tried it and i know people swear by it
Oh, how to fix that?
Oh, how to fix that?
Well, if you have to go to the hospital, be prepared. Have somebody with you. There is a patient bill of rights. You have rights in the hospital. Make sure you know those rights.
Well, if you have to go to the hospital, be prepared. Have somebody with you. There is a patient bill of rights. You have rights in the hospital. Make sure you know those rights.
Yeah, they don't advertise them.
Yeah, they don't advertise them.
Oh, yeah. What is that?
Oh, yeah. What is that?
Well, when I started 20, 23 years ago, patients didn't have a lot of access to information. Not like they have now. So we were in charge. We were definitely in charge because we had the information and patients really, unless they had textbooks, they didn't have it because we didn't have online information. And now, I mean, patients are well-informed.
Well, when I started 20, 23 years ago, patients didn't have a lot of access to information. Not like they have now. So we were in charge. We were definitely in charge because we had the information and patients really, unless they had textbooks, they didn't have it because we didn't have online information. And now, I mean, patients are well-informed.
And so every conversation I have with a patient, I know that they have been researching and they have a lot of information at their disposal. And I think a lot of doctors don't like that. I embrace it because I mean, I learn from my patients. And if a patient finds something, I will dig into it because I don't have time to dig into all of everything. Right. And you see weird things and I like it.
And so every conversation I have with a patient, I know that they have been researching and they have a lot of information at their disposal. And I think a lot of doctors don't like that. I embrace it because I mean, I learn from my patients. And if a patient finds something, I will dig into it because I don't have time to dig into all of everything. Right. And you see weird things and I like it.
But initially I didn't really have a lot of demand for people coming in needing treatment. I was doing a lot of testing and that sort of got me recognized in town because I had a saliva test that didn't require a swab up the nose and I was able to get the results back very quickly.
But initially I didn't really have a lot of demand for people coming in needing treatment. I was doing a lot of testing and that sort of got me recognized in town because I had a saliva test that didn't require a swab up the nose and I was able to get the results back very quickly.
But I think the doctors don't like that. It's a power thing. And. I mean, it can be frustrating on the flip side. If you feel like you really know what's going on and you're challenged by something somebody's read on the internet, that can be frustrating. But it's, you know, the doctors just don't, it's a power thing and an ego thing, mostly.
But I think the doctors don't like that. It's a power thing. And. I mean, it can be frustrating on the flip side. If you feel like you really know what's going on and you're challenged by something somebody's read on the internet, that can be frustrating. But it's, you know, the doctors just don't, it's a power thing and an ego thing, mostly.
It's horrible. It needs to be pulled off the market. It should have been pulled off the market a long time ago. I looked at my patients in the two years following the rollout of the COVID shots and 7% of my new patients were coming to see me for severe injuries. I've never seen anything like it with any other product on the market.
It's horrible. It needs to be pulled off the market. It should have been pulled off the market a long time ago. I looked at my patients in the two years following the rollout of the COVID shots and 7% of my new patients were coming to see me for severe injuries. I've never seen anything like it with any other product on the market.
If this were an antibiotic and you were seeing all these side effects, it would have been yanked off a long time ago. Normally, The FDA will put a black box warning on a medication if there have been five deaths. They will pull it off the market if there have been 50.
If this were an antibiotic and you were seeing all these side effects, it would have been yanked off a long time ago. Normally, The FDA will put a black box warning on a medication if there have been five deaths. They will pull it off the market if there have been 50.
Well, according to VAERS, which VAERS is Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, and it's vastly underreported, which I have seen firsthand.
Well, according to VAERS, which VAERS is Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, and it's vastly underreported, which I have seen firsthand.
According to VAERS, there have been 38,000 deaths from these COVID shots. So under normal circumstances, the FDA would have pulled it. But instead, they've doubled down. They've put the shots on the childhood vaccine schedule. All babies are expected to get three COVID shots by the time they're nine months old. The shots are still under EUA status for this age group.
According to VAERS, there have been 38,000 deaths from these COVID shots. So under normal circumstances, the FDA would have pulled it. But instead, they've doubled down. They've put the shots on the childhood vaccine schedule. All babies are expected to get three COVID shots by the time they're nine months old. The shots are still under EUA status for this age group.
So under 12, they're not even fully approved by the FDA. And yet they're on the vaccine schedule. And according to the CDC, 9 million American children have gotten the latest version of these COVID shots. Yes. Yes.
So under 12, they're not even fully approved by the FDA. And yet they're on the vaccine schedule. And according to the CDC, 9 million American children have gotten the latest version of these COVID shots. Yes. Yes.
The concern I have with these kids. So we know Myocarditis.
The concern I have with these kids. So we know Myocarditis.
Yes. Yes.
Yes. Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It should have been shut down a long time ago.
It should have been shut down a long time ago.
Yeah. Well, children.
Yeah. Well, children.
Minors. Yeah.
Minors. Yeah.
You might remember initially LabCorp was the only lab in the country that had the test and they became inundated and it was taking two weeks to get the test results back. So we had a saliva test and people could just, we could just give a cup and they could sit in their car and spit in it. And then we'd have the results back the next day. So that sort of, that's where it all started.
You might remember initially LabCorp was the only lab in the country that had the test and they became inundated and it was taking two weeks to get the test results back. So we had a saliva test and people could just, we could just give a cup and they could sit in their car and spit in it. And then we'd have the results back the next day. So that sort of, that's where it all started.
It's still compulsory in some states. Yes. And some businesses, not in Texas. So Texas actually passed a law outlawing mandates for COVID shots. But I actually reached out to people on Twitter yesterday and they said all these people say, yeah, it's still requiring shots for jobs or a nursing program or even transplants.
It's still compulsory in some states. Yes. And some businesses, not in Texas. So Texas actually passed a law outlawing mandates for COVID shots. But I actually reached out to people on Twitter yesterday and they said all these people say, yeah, it's still requiring shots for jobs or a nursing program or even transplants.
Well, the shots need to be pulled off the market immediately.
Well, the shots need to be pulled off the market immediately.
Who could do that? The FDA. So Marty Macari, he could do that. um and then we need accountability i mean we need we can't sweep this under the rug because we will never restore that trust and that's that's the key thing is if nothing happens it's just a festering wound and uh the trust will never come back are there any indications that this is coming soon
Who could do that? The FDA. So Marty Macari, he could do that. um and then we need accountability i mean we need we can't sweep this under the rug because we will never restore that trust and that's that's the key thing is if nothing happens it's just a festering wound and uh the trust will never come back are there any indications that this is coming soon
I mean, I'm not privy to conversations in the government.
I mean, I'm not privy to conversations in the government.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have not. I mean, it seems to me that HHS, their focus now has shifted or I don't know, their focus is on food and food quality and improving that. And I haven't heard a word about COVID or the COVID shots.
I have not. I mean, it seems to me that HHS, their focus now has shifted or I don't know, their focus is on food and food quality and improving that. And I haven't heard a word about COVID or the COVID shots.
Not, I mean, maybe I've missed something, but that's, I mean, I'm just reading what you're reading. I mean, I don't.
Not, I mean, maybe I've missed something, but that's, I mean, I'm just reading what you're reading. I mean, I don't.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
Yes. And my concern, giving it to babies, because myocarditis.
Yes. And my concern, giving it to babies, because myocarditis.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely. You can find it on the CDC.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely. You can find it on the CDC.
Yeah, that's why we can't let this just go away. Babies, so myocarditis, we know there's an increased risk of myocarditis in teenage boys who take these shots. We don't know what that risk is for nonverbal babies because the symptom is chest pain. So a baby, the baby could be getting myocarditis and we have no idea. Myocarditis can leave a scar on the heart.
Yeah, that's why we can't let this just go away. Babies, so myocarditis, we know there's an increased risk of myocarditis in teenage boys who take these shots. We don't know what that risk is for nonverbal babies because the symptom is chest pain. So a baby, the baby could be getting myocarditis and we have no idea. Myocarditis can leave a scar on the heart.
And then monoclonal antibodies came about and those worked great. I mean, I could get as many doses as I wanted. I'd get them the next day. I'd just contact the manufacturer, say I need 200 doses. They'd be at my doorstep.
And then monoclonal antibodies came about and those worked great. I mean, I could get as many doses as I wanted. I'd get them the next day. I'd just contact the manufacturer, say I need 200 doses. They'd be at my doorstep.
And then years later, the heart is permanently- Right, you're playing lacrosse and you drop. Right, and that's my big concern. These babies could be getting myocarditis and we have no idea.
And then years later, the heart is permanently- Right, you're playing lacrosse and you drop. Right, and that's my big concern. These babies could be getting myocarditis and we have no idea.
I think, well, what I have been looking at is spike protein antibody levels. So when you get a vaccine, you can, traditionally we call them titers. So like people who get hepatitis B vaccine, you can look at the titers, the antibody levels and see if you have protection. We do that as in the hospital a lot.
I think, well, what I have been looking at is spike protein antibody levels. So when you get a vaccine, you can, traditionally we call them titers. So like people who get hepatitis B vaccine, you can look at the titers, the antibody levels and see if you have protection. We do that as in the hospital a lot.
So they wanna make sure if you work in the hospital, if you get stuck by a needle, you're not gonna get hepatitis B. So I've started looking at these spike protein antibody levels, and it's alarming because the people, I can tell immediately if somebody had the shot. In the vaccinated, these antibody levels are, I did an average last night, 13,000. In the unvaccinated, the average is 1,000.
So they wanna make sure if you work in the hospital, if you get stuck by a needle, you're not gonna get hepatitis B. So I've started looking at these spike protein antibody levels, and it's alarming because the people, I can tell immediately if somebody had the shot. In the vaccinated, these antibody levels are, I did an average last night, 13,000. In the unvaccinated, the average is 1,000.
So there's huge discrepancy.
So there's huge discrepancy.
Yeah, years after. And these people, most of these people have gotten two, maybe three. Nobody's gotten more than that. And none of these people have been sick recently with COVID. So it's very alarming to me. It suggests, I mean, we don't know, but it suggests that spike protein is still active and still replicating possibly in the body. I mean, the mRNA in these shots is not mRNA.
Yeah, years after. And these people, most of these people have gotten two, maybe three. Nobody's gotten more than that. And none of these people have been sick recently with COVID. So it's very alarming to me. It suggests, I mean, we don't know, but it suggests that spike protein is still active and still replicating possibly in the body. I mean, the mRNA in these shots is not mRNA.
It's a synthetic mRNA. And it was made to avoid degradation. So it's made to stay in the body. That was the purpose of it, of modifying it. So when I see these levels like this, it really concerns me that we have an issue with this ongoing spike protein in the body.
It's a synthetic mRNA. And it was made to avoid degradation. So it's made to stay in the body. That was the purpose of it, of modifying it. So when I see these levels like this, it really concerns me that we have an issue with this ongoing spike protein in the body.
Well, I think cancer is a big concern. I think immune dysfunction.
Well, I think cancer is a big concern. I think immune dysfunction.
Well, the spike protein is oncogenic. Shunxin talked about that. So viruses can be oncogenic. It appears that the spike protein, the mRNA shots have SV40 in it, which is an oncogenic virus. There's something called frame shifting. So when the mRNA is integrating that it can produce new proteins just by little mistakes that happen.
Well, the spike protein is oncogenic. Shunxin talked about that. So viruses can be oncogenic. It appears that the spike protein, the mRNA shots have SV40 in it, which is an oncogenic virus. There's something called frame shifting. So when the mRNA is integrating that it can produce new proteins just by little mistakes that happen.
great they worked wonderfully people turned around very quickly and but what happened is in the and this is during that big surge when jason jones as sheriff's deputy got sick couldn't get monoclonal antibodies couldn't get ivermectin when in 2001 was that you remember So the summer of 2021, well, so let's start in the spring of 2021. So this is following the rollout of the COVID shots.
great they worked wonderfully people turned around very quickly and but what happened is in the and this is during that big surge when jason jones as sheriff's deputy got sick couldn't get monoclonal antibodies couldn't get ivermectin when in 2001 was that you remember So the summer of 2021, well, so let's start in the spring of 2021. So this is following the rollout of the COVID shots.
So these new proteins, we don't know what they are, but they could cause autoimmune disease and possibly cancer as well. There's just a lot unknowns. I mean, we don't even, we need a test to detect spike protein. All we have now is antibody test. We really need a lot more. We need an antidote.
So these new proteins, we don't know what they are, but they could cause autoimmune disease and possibly cancer as well. There's just a lot unknowns. I mean, we don't even, we need a test to detect spike protein. All we have now is antibody test. We really need a lot more. We need an antidote.
We need I mean, I am struggling because I have all these injured people and I usually start with ivermectin and ivermectin helps. It binds the spike protein and it's anti-inflammatory. But we're really limited and we need a solution. So we need the NIH to really dig into this and help these injured patients because they're very challenging.
We need I mean, I am struggling because I have all these injured people and I usually start with ivermectin and ivermectin helps. It binds the spike protein and it's anti-inflammatory. But we're really limited and we need a solution. So we need the NIH to really dig into this and help these injured patients because they're very challenging.
And, you know, we're sort of just, you know, experimenting because we don't know.
And, you know, we're sort of just, you know, experimenting because we don't know.
I would say, I mean, I get, you know, I've tried a lot of things and the thing that works the best is ivermectin. But it's slow going. It's, you know, I usually put people on for a long period of time before saying, okay, this is not going to work. And it's just hard because we, you know, there's just not, we need the NIH to step up and help us.
I would say, I mean, I get, you know, I've tried a lot of things and the thing that works the best is ivermectin. But it's slow going. It's, you know, I usually put people on for a long period of time before saying, okay, this is not going to work. And it's just hard because we, you know, there's just not, we need the NIH to step up and help us.
So I don't get the sudden, you know, collapse, myocarditis, stroke sort of situation because I'm outpatient.
So I don't get the sudden, you know, collapse, myocarditis, stroke sort of situation because I'm outpatient.
Right. I see the... Yeah, it varies, but I've seen some very strange rashes that don't go away with steroids and antihistamines.
Right. I see the... Yeah, it varies, but I've seen some very strange rashes that don't go away with steroids and antihistamines.
Like bumpy, red, splotchy. I mean, I had this poor kid, 15 years old. It was all over his face, all over his body, and he responded so well to ivermectin. That was a great case.
Like bumpy, red, splotchy. I mean, I had this poor kid, 15 years old. It was all over his face, all over his body, and he responded so well to ivermectin. That was a great case.
Yeah, it came on right. I mean, he had no prior history. He's 15. He's 15. It came on right after the COVID shots. I see POTS. So POTS is when the blood pressure drops suddenly or goes up real high suddenly for no clear trigger and your pulse may be erratic as well. That's been a big thing with the COVID patients. That's very difficult to fix. I've seen a lot of neurological.
Yeah, it came on right. I mean, he had no prior history. He's 15. He's 15. It came on right after the COVID shots. I see POTS. So POTS is when the blood pressure drops suddenly or goes up real high suddenly for no clear trigger and your pulse may be erratic as well. That's been a big thing with the COVID patients. That's very difficult to fix. I've seen a lot of neurological.
The government is upset because people are not buying it. People are not getting, there's very low uptake, very low interest or suspicion of these shots. So in March, they started their PR campaign, the government. They went after ivermectin. The FDA put something on their website about you can't use ivermectin for COVID. That Biden doled out $11.5 billion to groups around the country.
The government is upset because people are not buying it. People are not getting, there's very low uptake, very low interest or suspicion of these shots. So in March, they started their PR campaign, the government. They went after ivermectin. The FDA put something on their website about you can't use ivermectin for COVID. That Biden doled out $11.5 billion to groups around the country.
postural orthostatic hyper or temporal hyper postural orthostatic syncope.
postural orthostatic hyper or temporal hyper postural orthostatic syncope.
But so, so you feel faint. So you may just be standing there and your blood pressure drops or, or your, or your pulse goes up way high and you feel like you're having a panic attack, that sort of thing. So it's symptomatic changes in your blood pressure that occur without any kind of trigger.
But so, so you feel faint. So you may just be standing there and your blood pressure drops or, or your, or your pulse goes up way high and you feel like you're having a panic attack, that sort of thing. So it's symptomatic changes in your blood pressure that occur without any kind of trigger.
Yeah, yeah. And it's very hard to treat. So I see a lot of that. I've seen neurological tremors.
Yeah, yeah. And it's very hard to treat. So I see a lot of that. I've seen neurological tremors.
Oh yeah, yeah, no, no.
Oh yeah, yeah, no, no.
I saw a patient a little bit older than me, CEO of a company. He came in and he gave me his business card and he said, hi, I'm this so-and-so. And he gave me his other card and he go, and this is the biggest mistake I've ever made in my life. He gave me his vaccine card. Very difficult to, I mean, we've gotten a little bit of improvement, but just, you know, and a lot of fatigue.
I saw a patient a little bit older than me, CEO of a company. He came in and he gave me his business card and he said, hi, I'm this so-and-so. And he gave me his other card and he go, and this is the biggest mistake I've ever made in my life. He gave me his vaccine card. Very difficult to, I mean, we've gotten a little bit of improvement, but just, you know, and a lot of fatigue.
Whole body, his whole body.
Whole body, his whole body.
A lot of these patients say they feel a lot of burning, like pins and needles when they sleep. which is typical with neuropathy. That sounds like a life destroyer. No, yeah, it's bad. And they don't just, it's not like giving them an antibiotic and a week later they're better. These are chronic conditions. And the government's not helping.
A lot of these patients say they feel a lot of burning, like pins and needles when they sleep. which is typical with neuropathy. That sounds like a life destroyer. No, yeah, it's bad. And they don't just, it's not like giving them an antibiotic and a week later they're better. These are chronic conditions. And the government's not helping.
So, you know, Breon Dressen of React 19, I don't know if she, so React 19 is a organization started to help the injured from, you know, with the COVID shots. The head of that organization was involved in the AstraZeneca trial. So she was a, she volunteered to be a guinea pig and she got injured. Government just came out and said they're not going to help her.
So, you know, Breon Dressen of React 19, I don't know if she, so React 19 is a organization started to help the injured from, you know, with the COVID shots. The head of that organization was involved in the AstraZeneca trial. So she was a, she volunteered to be a guinea pig and she got injured. Government just came out and said they're not going to help her.
They're not going to give her any kind of financial reimbursement.
They're not going to give her any kind of financial reimbursement.
Maybe a week or two ago.
Maybe a week or two ago.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Companies have no liability risk with these products. And the PrEP Act even further protects them.
Companies have no liability risk with these products. And the PrEP Act even further protects them.
It does not expire until 2029.
It does not expire until 2029.
Anything that's designated as a countermeasure is protected. So anything that happens in the hospitals, anything that happens from these shots, it's all protected from liability. There is one really monumental lawsuit going on that could change that. Brooke Jackson is a whistleblower for Pfizer, and she was involved in the research. So she was at the clinical trial sites.
Anything that's designated as a countermeasure is protected. So anything that happens in the hospitals, anything that happens from these shots, it's all protected from liability. There is one really monumental lawsuit going on that could change that. Brooke Jackson is a whistleblower for Pfizer, and she was involved in the research. So she was at the clinical trial sites.
She was the manager, and she was seeing all sorts of issues with the way they were conducting the trial. And she brought that to the company's attention. She brought that to the FDA's attention and she was fired. So she has been in this gigantic legal battle against Pfizer for a long time now. I think we're going on four years. And unfortunately, and this was during Biden, the DOJ stepped in and
She was the manager, and she was seeing all sorts of issues with the way they were conducting the trial. And she brought that to the company's attention. She brought that to the FDA's attention and she was fired. So she has been in this gigantic legal battle against Pfizer for a long time now. I think we're going on four years. And unfortunately, and this was during Biden, the DOJ stepped in and
and basically said, no, you can't sue Pfizer. It's crazy.
and basically said, no, you can't sue Pfizer. It's crazy.
The DOJ stuck up for Pfizer, which is not usually how that works.
The DOJ stuck up for Pfizer, which is not usually how that works.
Exactly.
Exactly.
It doesn't seem very radical to me. Seems like common sense.
It doesn't seem very radical to me. Seems like common sense.
Well, you look at, OK, what was their past history? Do they have any issues? Were they otherwise healthy? And then when did these things start happening? And the timeline. And then the other thing is they typically go to other doctors and they get the million dollar workup and they can't find anything to explain it. And the doctors are baffled. They put them on psychiatric medications.
Well, you look at, OK, what was their past history? Do they have any issues? Were they otherwise healthy? And then when did these things start happening? And the timeline. And then the other thing is they typically go to other doctors and they get the million dollar workup and they can't find anything to explain it. And the doctors are baffled. They put them on psychiatric medications.
Initially, it started with 275. It went up to 17,000. Influencers, church groups, sports leagues, all sorts of people just just funneling out taxpayer money to go after doctors like myself that were spreading misinformation and to, you know, this is you push people to get these COVID shots. So that happened in the spring and.
Initially, it started with 275. It went up to 17,000. Influencers, church groups, sports leagues, all sorts of people just just funneling out taxpayer money to go after doctors like myself that were spreading misinformation and to, you know, this is you push people to get these COVID shots. So that happened in the spring and.
Oh, yeah. I saw one patient on a sleeping pill, a benzodiazepine and an antidepressant.
Oh, yeah. I saw one patient on a sleeping pill, a benzodiazepine and an antidepressant.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yes. Yes. They don't get reported to VAERS. I've had to report every single patient that came to see me for an injury. Even though they'd seen multiple other doctors, it was me that had to report it to VAERS. So I know it's underreported.
Yes. Yes. They don't get reported to VAERS. I've had to report every single patient that came to see me for an injury. Even though they'd seen multiple other doctors, it was me that had to report it to VAERS. So I know it's underreported.
Yeah. It's not subtle. If you look on there, you don't have to have a degree in statistics to understand what's going on. I mean, it's like nothing's happening and then whoosh, you know, just – It's not subtle.
Yeah. It's not subtle. If you look on there, you don't have to have a degree in statistics to understand what's going on. I mean, it's like nothing's happening and then whoosh, you know, just – It's not subtle.
Right.
Right.
COVID!
COVID!
Not to my knowledge. I mean, I could have missed that, but no.
Not to my knowledge. I mean, I could have missed that, but no.
There's probably people that have access to that data, but publicly it's hard. And so I have to rely. I don't see a ton of cancer in my practice, but I do have friends at MD Anderson, and they said they've never seen anything like it. The young people coming in with very advanced tumors, I think that's what we have to be worried about now.
There's probably people that have access to that data, but publicly it's hard. And so I have to rely. I don't see a ton of cancer in my practice, but I do have friends at MD Anderson, and they said they've never seen anything like it. The young people coming in with very advanced tumors, I think that's what we have to be worried about now.
So Houston Methodist Hospital, and that's where I had privileges, they were the first hospital in the country to mandate the shots. And this was April 1st, 2021. And this was the exact day that Biden announced COVID-19 community core, that multi-billion dollar propaganda effort. I think it was very purposeful. I think the mandate started in Houston for a reason.
So Houston Methodist Hospital, and that's where I had privileges, they were the first hospital in the country to mandate the shots. And this was April 1st, 2021. And this was the exact day that Biden announced COVID-19 community core, that multi-billion dollar propaganda effort. I think it was very purposeful. I think the mandate started in Houston for a reason.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It could be there could be an agenda behind it. It could just be a total inefficiency of the bureaucracy. It's hard to say. But yeah, it'd be nice if we could have more data.
It could be there could be an agenda behind it. It could just be a total inefficiency of the bureaucracy. It's hard to say. But yeah, it'd be nice if we could have more data.
Yeah, it is. But, you know, it's it's also I guess it's complicated in some degrees to get it all out there. But, yeah, transparency would be even more. aside from the cancer numbers. I mean, like I said, with COVID, there are all these hospitals that had so much data at their disposal and didn't share it.
Yeah, it is. But, you know, it's it's also I guess it's complicated in some degrees to get it all out there. But, yeah, transparency would be even more. aside from the cancer numbers. I mean, like I said, with COVID, there are all these hospitals that had so much data at their disposal and didn't share it.
It'd be nice to see, you know, Houston Methodist come out and share their data with us since they were the first, they led the way with the mandates. It'd be nice to see how successful that effort was for their employees and for their patients.
It'd be nice to see, you know, Houston Methodist come out and share their data with us since they were the first, they led the way with the mandates. It'd be nice to see how successful that effort was for their employees and for their patients.
I actually sued them to get that data.
I actually sued them to get that data.
I lost.
I lost.
I don't know. It was just political grounds, I think. I sued to get their financial data because as a nonprofit, they are supposed to give it to you if somebody from the public wants to know. This is what they get in exchange for not paying property taxes. Right, right, right, right. But there was some technicality. I don't understand really why we lost, but we did.
I don't know. It was just political grounds, I think. I sued to get their financial data because as a nonprofit, they are supposed to give it to you if somebody from the public wants to know. This is what they get in exchange for not paying property taxes. Right, right, right, right. But there was some technicality. I don't understand really why we lost, but we did.
We even appealed and we lost on appeal.
We even appealed and we lost on appeal.
I think people are feeling more empowered, which is how they should be. I mean, they're not listening to the government for their health care decisions anymore. I think people have learned from that mistake. And, you know, I haven't lost all hope. I'm grateful, you know... There was a time where I couldn't even... I was banned from Twitter. I don't know if you were.
I think people are feeling more empowered, which is how they should be. I mean, they're not listening to the government for their health care decisions anymore. I think people have learned from that mistake. And, you know, I haven't lost all hope. I'm grateful, you know... There was a time where I couldn't even... I was banned from Twitter. I don't know if you were.
But, you know, we are... Free speech is coming back.
But, you know, we are... Free speech is coming back.
Right. Right. Well, and, you know, we're making. Hey, I'm grateful to you for having me on here because this is old news to most people. Right. And, you know, we just need to keep speaking out. We just need to keep. I mean, my foot is on the pedal, you know, even though there is no pandemic anymore. But we must just keep pounding away at this.
Right. Right. Well, and, you know, we're making. Hey, I'm grateful to you for having me on here because this is old news to most people. Right. And, you know, we just need to keep speaking out. We just need to keep. I mean, my foot is on the pedal, you know, even though there is no pandemic anymore. But we must just keep pounding away at this.
I think that they knew if they could get away with the mandates in Texas, they could get away with them anywhere.
I think that they knew if they could get away with the mandates in Texas, they could get away with them anywhere.
I think, you know, the money is there for the treatment, not for the cause. Right. So it is, you know, there's lots of money. It's just going towards.
I think, you know, the money is there for the treatment, not for the cause. Right. So it is, you know, there's lots of money. It's just going towards.
He was, you know, he...
He was, you know, he...
Right. But this is not I mean, this is financially driven. So if you're in it to make money, you're going to go after the treatment, not the cause.
Right. But this is not I mean, this is financially driven. So if you're in it to make money, you're going to go after the treatment, not the cause.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's been very difficult, but it's been impactful. And... In some ways, I'm glad it happened. It's been very educational. And I have hope that it will change. It may take another generation, but COVID should be the wake-up call. And the seeds were there before COVID, but COVID brought it all out there. And hopefully, we could actually learn from it and change course.
It's been very difficult, but it's been impactful. And... In some ways, I'm glad it happened. It's been very educational. And I have hope that it will change. It may take another generation, but COVID should be the wake-up call. And the seeds were there before COVID, but COVID brought it all out there. And hopefully, we could actually learn from it and change course.
Yeah, he was a little slow to act. I mean, he was on board with Methodist. In fact, I have the CEO of Methodist, Dr. Mark Boom, on camera saying that Governor Abbott wanted them to get a shot in every arm. That's according to the CEO of Methodist. But, you know, he did come through eventually, but... This is early on. So then that summer started having all these breakthrough cases.
Yeah, he was a little slow to act. I mean, he was on board with Methodist. In fact, I have the CEO of Methodist, Dr. Mark Boom, on camera saying that Governor Abbott wanted them to get a shot in every arm. That's according to the CEO of Methodist. But, you know, he did come through eventually, but... This is early on. So then that summer started having all these breakthrough cases.
Yeah. I mean, I... What I've realized is I made a lot of assumptions about vaccines. It was the gospel according to vaccines. When I was in training, there was no questioning it. It was just accepted fact. They were safe and effective. And COVID made me realize, well, hold on, let's see how they were tested. And they have not been tested like other products on the market.
Yeah. I mean, I... What I've realized is I made a lot of assumptions about vaccines. It was the gospel according to vaccines. When I was in training, there was no questioning it. It was just accepted fact. They were safe and effective. And COVID made me realize, well, hold on, let's see how they were tested. And they have not been tested like other products on the market.
So they don't have placebo-controlled trials.
So they don't have placebo-controlled trials.
No, not like the other products on the market. And they don't have liability protection. So the companies are not motivated.
No, not like the other products on the market. And they don't have liability protection. So the companies are not motivated.
Yeah, sorry. Yes. So the companies are not motivated. There's no repercussion if something goes wrong. And there's no reason for it to spend a lot of money to ensure that it's safe. So now, you know, I have... questions about all of them. Now, I will say I'm not seeing the carnage from flu shot that I've seen with the COVID shot. I think there's a different degree of danger there.
Yeah, sorry. Yes. So the companies are not motivated. There's no repercussion if something goes wrong. And there's no reason for it to spend a lot of money to ensure that it's safe. So now, you know, I have... questions about all of them. Now, I will say I'm not seeing the carnage from flu shot that I've seen with the COVID shot. I think there's a different degree of danger there.
But it does make me question it all. And if you look at the flu shot, in fact, has never been shown to decrease hospitalization or death in people that get the flu shot. And it actually makes you more susceptible to other viruses. And you can treat it. So
But it does make me question it all. And if you look at the flu shot, in fact, has never been shown to decrease hospitalization or death in people that get the flu shot. And it actually makes you more susceptible to other viruses. And you can treat it. So
Right.
Right.
Well, remove their liability protection. Do you have liability protection? Do I?
Well, remove their liability protection. Do you have liability protection? Do I?
No, no, I don't actually.
No, no, I don't actually.
Yeah, yeah, it'd be nice.
Yeah, yeah, it'd be nice.
Exactly. That would be great.
Exactly. That would be great.
Yeah. So, I mean, just make them go through the process any other product has to go through. It's not very complicated.
Yeah. So, I mean, just make them go through the process any other product has to go through. It's not very complicated.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Apparently, it was in 1986 when Reagan put the act in place. I guess there were two companies that almost got just decimated financially because of all the kickback, the lawsuits. That should have been a warning sign.
Apparently, it was in 1986 when Reagan put the act in place. I guess there were two companies that almost got just decimated financially because of all the kickback, the lawsuits. That should have been a warning sign.
And I was seeing it because I was testing people. So I started to track people by their vaccination status. And I saw that the vaccinated outnumbered the unvaccinated and they were just as sick, if not sicker. So I brought this to the attention of Houston Methodist.
And I was seeing it because I was testing people. So I started to track people by their vaccination status. And I saw that the vaccinated outnumbered the unvaccinated and they were just as sick, if not sicker. So I brought this to the attention of Houston Methodist.
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People that were coming to my office to get tested.
People that were coming to my office to get tested.
Well, we can get to that. Yeah. Because I mean, I'm independent. So it allowed me to do things that other doctors can't do. But I was actually collaborating with Methodist. I was sharing my data with them because I had so many, I mean, basically I was just, all I saw was COVID for a few years. And we were trying to get the data published. So we had a good relationship.
Well, we can get to that. Yeah. Because I mean, I'm independent. So it allowed me to do things that other doctors can't do. But I was actually collaborating with Methodist. I was sharing my data with them because I had so many, I mean, basically I was just, all I saw was COVID for a few years. And we were trying to get the data published. So we had a good relationship.
So I reached out and I said, hey, are you seeing what I'm seeing? Like these, all these breakthrough cases. At the same time, I had all these people coming to me very distraught about the mandates. Because we were ahead of the time, right? This was before the rest of the country was mandating the shots. But in Houston, a lot of people at Houston Methodist, they employ about 30,000 people.
So I reached out and I said, hey, are you seeing what I'm seeing? Like these, all these breakthrough cases. At the same time, I had all these people coming to me very distraught about the mandates. Because we were ahead of the time, right? This was before the rest of the country was mandating the shots. But in Houston, a lot of people at Houston Methodist, they employ about 30,000 people.
very distraught over these mandates um and then i and then i see that they're not working at that time i wasn't seeing the injuries and at that time i was just very vocal against the mandates so
very distraught over these mandates um and then i and then i see that they're not working at that time i wasn't seeing the injuries and at that time i was just very vocal against the mandates so
I, you know, in August, late August of 2021, FDA put out the infamous horse tweet, and that's the attractive healthcare worker nuzzling the horse and says, seriously, y'all, you're not a horse, you're not a cow, stop it. Tweet went viral. That's right. That's when Joe Rogan got smeared for taking ivermectin.
I, you know, in August, late August of 2021, FDA put out the infamous horse tweet, and that's the attractive healthcare worker nuzzling the horse and says, seriously, y'all, you're not a horse, you're not a cow, stop it. Tweet went viral. That's right. That's when Joe Rogan got smeared for taking ivermectin.
And then right after that, Biden mandated the shots and they took away monoclonal antibodies. So it's all very orchestrated.
And then right after that, Biden mandated the shots and they took away monoclonal antibodies. So it's all very orchestrated.
Right. But if you have monoclonal antibodies available as an option, people are going to do that rather than get the shot. So that's why, in my opinion, that's why they took away the monoclonal antibodies.
Right. But if you have monoclonal antibodies available as an option, people are going to do that rather than get the shot. So that's why, in my opinion, that's why they took away the monoclonal antibodies.
They worked great. I mean, it was.
They worked great. I mean, it was.
Yeah, in my opinion, definitely.
Yeah, in my opinion, definitely.
So their response was one sentence and said, well, we think the shots are there to lessen the severity. Well, interestingly enough, they've never shared their data, their hospital data. And being the first in the country to mandate the shots, you know they're sitting on an enormous amount of data.
So their response was one sentence and said, well, we think the shots are there to lessen the severity. Well, interestingly enough, they've never shared their data, their hospital data. And being the first in the country to mandate the shots, you know they're sitting on an enormous amount of data.
And if the shots had been effective in preventing transmission or lowering the severity, then they should have shared that. They would have shared that. They would have been screaming that from the rooftops if it fits their agenda. But they've been very quiet about that. So, you know, I had, you know, all these things, all these patients coming to me very distraught.
And if the shots had been effective in preventing transmission or lowering the severity, then they should have shared that. They would have shared that. They would have been screaming that from the rooftops if it fits their agenda. But they've been very quiet about that. So, you know, I had, you know, all these things, all these patients coming to me very distraught.
I had one patient come to me and tell me that her urologist at Houston Methodist called her and said, you're going to need to find a new urologist if you don't get the COVID shots. And she had a history of bladder cancer. So she was very upset and she was calling me to try to find a new urologist that I won't treat you.
I had one patient come to me and tell me that her urologist at Houston Methodist called her and said, you're going to need to find a new urologist if you don't get the COVID shots. And she had a history of bladder cancer. So she was very upset and she was calling me to try to find a new urologist that I won't treat you.
Well, he said that the department was talking, having discussions about not treating patients that were unvaccinated.
Well, he said that the department was talking, having discussions about not treating patients that were unvaccinated.
No, this is at Houston Methodist Hospital.
No, this is at Houston Methodist Hospital.
Yes. That's what he told this patient.
Yes. That's what he told this patient.
Yeah, well, we saw all sorts of moral issues during the pandemic.
Yeah, well, we saw all sorts of moral issues during the pandemic.
Crimes. So, yeah, that happened. And then on the exact same day, I got a notice from a surgery center where I operate that I'd have to get the COVID shot to continue operating. And then on the same day, I got a notice from this hospital where I was trying to help the sheriff's deputy. They had a court order to give me emergency temporary privileges so that I could give him ivermectin.
Crimes. So, yeah, that happened. And then on the exact same day, I got a notice from a surgery center where I operate that I'd have to get the COVID shot to continue operating. And then on the same day, I got a notice from this hospital where I was trying to help the sheriff's deputy. They had a court order to give me emergency temporary privileges so that I could give him ivermectin.
The wife sued. And she was, you know, last ditch effort. Let a dying man try ivermectin.
The wife sued. And she was, you know, last ditch effort. Let a dying man try ivermectin.
Yes. I testified. She asked me to testify. I testified. Senator Bob Hall testified. We won. And the court was ordered to give me emergency temporary privileges. And then I was to either myself personally give the ivermectin to him or have a nurse do it because they thought it was too dangerous for one of their own members to do it.
Yes. I testified. She asked me to testify. I testified. Senator Bob Hall testified. We won. And the court was ordered to give me emergency temporary privileges. And then I was to either myself personally give the ivermectin to him or have a nurse do it because they thought it was too dangerous for one of their own members to do it.
With ivermectin, which is insane. Anyway, I got a notice that they were going to deny my privileges, even though, I mean, I've never been sued for malpractice, spotless record. They made me get letters of recommendation. They made me submit my surgical case logs. They just fought tooth and nail to make the whole process as difficult as they could.
With ivermectin, which is insane. Anyway, I got a notice that they were going to deny my privileges, even though, I mean, I've never been sued for malpractice, spotless record. They made me get letters of recommendation. They made me submit my surgical case logs. They just fought tooth and nail to make the whole process as difficult as they could.
And the lawyers ended up having to go back to the judge and fight with, you know, fight with them over just giving me privileges. Whereas, you know, at that time, there was a shortage. You know, they needed doctors to work in the hospitals anymore.
And the lawyers ended up having to go back to the judge and fight with, you know, fight with them over just giving me privileges. Whereas, you know, at that time, there was a shortage. You know, they needed doctors to work in the hospitals anymore.
And if I under other circumstances, if I had just shown up and said, hey, I want to help out in the ICU, they would have granted me privileges the same day. There wouldn't have been any kind of letters or recommendation or surgery.
And if I under other circumstances, if I had just shown up and said, hey, I want to help out in the ICU, they would have granted me privileges the same day. There wouldn't have been any kind of letters or recommendation or surgery.
No. So this is interesting. So the lawyers that were doing this case, Ralph Lorigo and Beth Parlato, they did 189 cases around the country. Similar situation. The spouse is suing the hospital to try to get their loved one ivermectin in this last ditch effort to save their lives. Half of those people, they won the case. And in the cases where they won, all but three patients died.
No. So this is interesting. So the lawyers that were doing this case, Ralph Lorigo and Beth Parlato, they did 189 cases around the country. Similar situation. The spouse is suing the hospital to try to get their loved one ivermectin in this last ditch effort to save their lives. Half of those people, they won the case. And in the cases where they won, all but three patients died.
In the cases where they lost, all the patients died. I mean, it's really amazing. And apparently the judges, their political party, matched the outcome of the trial. So the Republican judges were the ones that ruled in favor of the plaintiff. And then the Democrat judges were the ones that ruled against the plaintiff.
In the cases where they lost, all the patients died. I mean, it's really amazing. And apparently the judges, their political party, matched the outcome of the trial. So the Republican judges were the ones that ruled in favor of the plaintiff. And then the Democrat judges were the ones that ruled against the plaintiff.
So, you know, we, there was a lot of back and forth. It was very confusing. It was very, happening very quickly. And, you know, his life is on the line. And they basically, the lawyers told me, you have the green light. We're gonna go ahead. We can go. It's all good. Everything's cleared. So I send the nurse to the hospital and she's greeted by the police and the hospital administrator.
So, you know, we, there was a lot of back and forth. It was very confusing. It was very, happening very quickly. And, you know, his life is on the line. And they basically, the lawyers told me, you have the green light. We're gonna go ahead. We can go. It's all good. Everything's cleared. So I send the nurse to the hospital and she's greeted by the police and the hospital administrator.
and turned away. And he never is allowed to get the ivermectin. They appealed and managed to get a stay on the order. And then on appeal, they lost. So the wife, luckily she was able to go into the hospital every day, which was unusual. Most spouses didn't get to do that, but that was one good thing. And this was at Texas Hughley Hospital in Fort Worth.
and turned away. And he never is allowed to get the ivermectin. They appealed and managed to get a stay on the order. And then on appeal, they lost. So the wife, luckily she was able to go into the hospital every day, which was unusual. Most spouses didn't get to do that, but that was one good thing. And this was at Texas Hughley Hospital in Fort Worth.
So she applied ivermectin to him topically every day without the hospital knowing. The hospital tied up his feeding tube because they didn't want her sneaking anything in. They put towels and rubber bands around it so that nothing could be snuck in.
So she applied ivermectin to him topically every day without the hospital knowing. The hospital tied up his feeding tube because they didn't want her sneaking anything in. They put towels and rubber bands around it so that nothing could be snuck in.
Yeah. I mean, they fought tooth and nail to keep him from just trying a very safe medication, which I believe should be over the counter. And then and then they turned me into the medical board over it. And I'm still fighting those charges. The patient, he did survive, but he spent six months in the hospital. He lost half of his body weight. He never was able to make a full recovery.
And then unfortunately, he did pass away.
It's a stain on the medical profession.
Yeah.
Well, the technicality is that I didn't have hospital privileges when I sent the nurse to the hospital. But because this was a legal dispute.
She never got in. And I was following the guidance of the lawyers.
Well, I don't think they're trying to. I think they just want to find me and find you. Yeah, mark my record. And I could have settled a long time ago. So you have something called an informal settlement conference. It's behind closed doors. There's no witnesses or you don't really get to interact much.
And they offered to make it go away if I paid them $5,000 and took eight hours of CME and retook the- What does CME mean? Continuing medical education. And then retook the jurisprudence exam. So all doctors in Texas have to take a medical legal exam, which I've already taken and passed, but they wanted me to take it again. And I just said, no, I'm not. I'm not caving to this.
And unfortunately, the latest. So it's been three and a half years. There have been multiple continuances. They haven't been able to find an expert witness to testify against me. The first one got sick with cancer. The second one just died. I think just chickened out, I don't know.
No. And I mean, I'm still fighting to keep my license. I mean, I still have the Texas Medical Board coming after me for something that happened. Right now you're fighting? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I have a hearing coming up the end of April. And I was trying to save somebody's life. It was a sheriff's deputy.
And the third one, the third witness, it turns out that the entire time, and he was the former medical director of the Texas Medical Board, the entire time, the last 12 years, he's been working for Planned Parenthood. So we found that out.
He's a lab director for Planned Parenthood.
I don't know.
Yeah, probably.
He was the medical director of the medical board.
Exactly, yeah.
Exactly. No, I mean, Texas is not what people think.
This is a man that has served for 29 years trying to protect and save the public, father of six. And he contracted COVID. And this was in the fall of 2021. And that was the third and the largest surge of the pandemic. That's when this was following the rollout of the COVID shots. So this was eight months following the rollout of COVID shots. And they clearly weren't working.
You know, the medical board's job is to protect the public from dangerous doctors. I mean, it's... It's true, though. I mean, you get a monthly bulletin and there are, you know, sex... Like the ones who give your kids amphetamines for ADHD?
Well, no, I mean... No, not those doctors.
I mean, we get a monthly email just blasting all the crimes that doctors have done. And it's pretty bad. I mean, you know, sex offenders.
A lot of, you know, so that's their role. I don't think I'm dangerous. I was trying to save a life. I stepped on the toes of a hospital. That's that was my crime. A multibillion dollar hospital, Advent Hospital. And, you know, that's what happened with Methodist. I stepped on their toes and they just weren't going to have that.
I mean, at the time that this was going down, we were it was a legal battle. I felt like, well, I really can't. I just have to. Yeah, I can't step outside what the lawyers are telling me to do.
I don't know for sure, but I know that Houston Methodist Hospital has $13 billion in assets. That was actually a couple of years ago. It's probably more now. In assets? In assets. So 13 billion in assets. And they have locations all over Houston. They don't pay property taxes. They're nonprofit.
They don't pay any property taxes.
Yes, there was.
Yes, so there was a Dr. Joe Varone, who is a pulmonologist, critical care doctor. He's now the head of Independent Medical Alliance. He and I, I would have, it was crazy. We'd have patients calling us all over the country saying, help, get me out of this hospital. And he would accept transfers from all over the country.
So people would be, you know, life flighted from ICU in Maine and taken down to Houston. And he would care for them. And this hospital, UMMC, allowed him to use ivermectin. And we were, there was a whole protocol that was, It's called the Math Plus Protocol and started by FLCCC, which now is Independent Medical Alliance. But it was high dose steroids. It was high dose ivermectin.
And this man, he got sick. He tried to get ivermectin. He couldn't find a doctor willing to prescribe it. He ended up in the hospital and he was, you know, went downhill like so many people did. And his wife, you know, the hospital was talking hospice. They were giving up. They said, we tried everything.
It was high dose vitamin C. It was breathing treatments. It was all these very basic, you know, not dangerous things that weren't being done. He saved a lot of lives. He worked crazy. I mean, I think he worked over two and a half years straight without even a break. But I was fortunate to have him as an ally and somebody.
Well, if you look at – there's a great website that compiles all the ivermectin data just by itself. And we have 105 studies showing efficacy of ivermectin. And, you know – It varied depending on the actual patient as it should. And you wouldn't always just use ivermectin. So in my more severe patients, I would use a combination of ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin.
During that second week, I would do higher dose steroids if necessary. I would do breathing treatments. So it's hard to isolate saying, okay, well, it's just ivermectin. But when you look on this compilation of studies, I mean, even in the late stages, and you were asking me about this earlier, even in the late stages, they showed that ivermectin could decrease mortality by 40%.
It's most effective if you actually take it as prevention. So people taking it twice a week do the best. And then the people that start day one or two or three, they're the next best.
Well, it depends on who you ask. But yes, there is plenty of data supporting that.
Well, you know, it would help myself and other doctors who, I mean, I'm not the only doctor going through this with a medical board, but if they could make it a countermeasure, then it's protected under the PrEP Act. And then it makes all these issues that we're having with medical boards essentially go away.
Well, I wouldn't say that. They'd say it doesn't work or it's not. But the studies that are all establishment, you know, in the big journals, they're either they didn't give the ivermectin soon enough or they gave too low of a dose or the study was sponsored by somebody that has financial interests and seen it not work. So there are studies countering that. But
If you if you look at there's just an abundance of data showing it works and it's super safe. So I was a little bit nervous before I started using it because of all the media that's only for horses and that sort of thing. So I dug into it and I did what.
Yes. I mean, for for their parasite issues. Yeah. But so I looked at the study where Merck submitted to the FDA. It's on their website. Anybody can find it. And you get toxicity data. And there's something called the LD50, which stands for lethal dose 50. It's a benchmark number that is used to gauge how toxic a medication is. So the higher the number, the lower the toxicity.
He was late 50s, early 60s. Not elderly, right? No. And he was a big guy, but he had no comorbidities. He had no other medical problems. And so, you know, this is we saw this, though, with so many people, you know, day if you didn't get early treatment, the second week of illness, people would start really getting bad that this massive inflammatory response would kick in. Yes.
And in COVID, we were using higher doses of ivermectin than what you use to treat a parasite. So I wanted to make sure these higher doses were okay. Well, if you look at the LD50 of ivermectin, it's anywhere from 11 to 82 times what we're giving for COVID. So we are far under that threshold. And then I did a literature search, and I tried to find accidental, intentional overdoses from ivermectin.
And I couldn't find anything. And I checked recently and there was one study showing some issues. And it was a little bit muddy. Like, was this really ivermectin? But if you look at Tylenol, I mean, there's thousands of papers showing toxicity from Tylenol.
Really?
Yeah.
Right. Well, yeah. Yeah. I haven't seen it, but sure.
Yep. Well, that was. Right.
Yeah. Yeah.
I tell people I have a harder time with antibiotics in terms of side effects. Like if I'm going to get a call back in my office, it's usually about an antibiotic problem, not ivermectin. But you can get some GI issues, diarrhea, and then you can get blurry vision. But the blurry vision goes away when you stop taking it. And it's not like, oh, I can't read.
It's more like, oh, something's a little off. That's it? That's it.
Exactly.
Right.
Yeah, it's awful.
No. And I remember Methodist came after me very vocally. Yeah. And I had a press conference outside my office as a, you know, I'm not standing, I'm not putting up with this. And I said, you know, politics has no business in healthcare. And at the time I really believed it. I was not political at all prior to this. Really? I shied away from, I really didn't like it.
And I thought it was too divisive. And here I am.
But now I feel like there's no other choice, right? You just have to. You have to get involved. Yeah.
No, it's interesting that I went and looked at the data for Texas because Texas has been infiltrated by people from all over the country.
33% population. It's going to be California. Yeah, it is. And you look at healthcare professionals, what they donated to political parties. And 10 years ago, they primarily donated to Republicans. And now they primarily donate to Democrats. The whole profession has shifted.
Well, I think medicine in general, I mean, the corporate practice, it's become the corporate practice in medicine. It's become centralized. It's, you know, only 1% of doctors are not employed. I'm one of those, but.
Like, so 77% of doctors are employed by a hospital. 20% are employed by private equity or an insurance company. And 2% are employed by the government. And only 1% are like myself.
It almost always happened on day eight. It was very weird. It was very predictable. And, you know, the primary care doctors just shut their doors to these people. They said, oh, this is just a virus. We'll let it run its course and then go to the emergency room if you can't breathe. So that happened.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, I think it is. I mean, we have to, doctors need to regain their power. They've lost all their power.
So when I got out of residency, I worked in a traditional practice.
just ear, nose, and throat and sleep medicine. And it was small, but it was easy. But I was always bothered by the stranglehold that the insurance companies had over my ability to treat my patients. So like one easy example is as an ear, nose, and throat doctor, we do an endoscopic exam of the nose. It takes about extra 10 minutes, not really a big deal.
It's really not bad. You numb it up first with spray. There's no shots. But if I did that and I marked the code on the sheet, on the receipt, the patient might get some gigantic bill, like $400 for doing this little simple procedure, which as an ENT, it's pretty essential. It's part of our, you know, makes us different from the primary care doctor. We're able to look in there.
So it always stressed me out in the back of my mind, like, I'm gonna do this, and is the patient gonna get some big bill, right? I hated it. So when I, you know, I took time off, because I had four boys in five years, and- You had four boys? Yes.
It was chaotic, yes. And I wasn't sure I was gonna go back. I started off, I'm just gonna take a year off, and that led to seven years off. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Because there's a dogma that we are taught in medical school and in our training that you don't treat a virus, that you let a virus run its course because there's this big fear about antibiotic resistance. So they don't want people over prescribing antibiotics. And so the assumption, if somebody comes to you with an upper respiratory tract infection and the first
Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
three, four days, five days, and they don't test positive for strep, you basically say, oh, you've got a virus and we'll just wait and see what happens. Well, I mean, that was just catastrophic. I mean, that was really, and I learned so much. I mean, I had that mindset prior to the pandemic, but it just didn't sit well with me when people were coming in and really struggling to just do nothing.
Thank you. Thank you.
And so initially I tried hydroxychloroquine But as soon as President Trump came out and said how great it was, the Texas State Board of Pharmacy, they literally shut it down. Like they prohibited doctors from prescribing hydroxychloroquine. So I put it on the back burner and I just did my best. I did breathing treatments, steroids. I did antibiotics for secondary infection.
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I weigh now what I weighed in high school. I never thought I'd get to that point. I did it for six months and you know, it's not for everybody, but I will say it's a lot safer than Ozempic and Monjorno. And it's very simple. I mean, you basically eliminate all carbohydrates from your diet and you just eat meat and fat.
Yeah. And you snack on bacon. I mean, it's crazy. And you're like shedding pounds.
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Oh, how to fix that?
Well, if you have to go to the hospital, be prepared. Have somebody with you. There is a patient bill of rights. You have rights in the hospital. Make sure you know those rights.
Yeah, they don't advertise them.
Oh, yeah. What is that?
Well, when I started 20, 23 years ago, patients didn't have a lot of access to information. Not like they have now. So we were in charge. We were definitely in charge because we had the information and patients really, unless they had textbooks, they didn't have it because we didn't have online information. And now, I mean, patients are well-informed.
And so every conversation I have with a patient, I know that they have been researching and they have a lot of information at their disposal. And I think a lot of doctors don't like that. I embrace it because I mean, I learn from my patients. And if a patient finds something, I will dig into it because I don't have time to dig into all of everything. Right. And you see weird things and I like it.
But initially I didn't really have a lot of demand for people coming in needing treatment. I was doing a lot of testing and that sort of got me recognized in town because I had a saliva test that didn't require a swab up the nose and I was able to get the results back very quickly.
But I think the doctors don't like that. It's a power thing. And. I mean, it can be frustrating on the flip side. If you feel like you really know what's going on and you're challenged by something somebody's read on the internet, that can be frustrating. But it's, you know, the doctors just don't, it's a power thing and an ego thing, mostly.
It's horrible. It needs to be pulled off the market. It should have been pulled off the market a long time ago. I looked at my patients in the two years following the rollout of the COVID shots and 7% of my new patients were coming to see me for severe injuries. I've never seen anything like it with any other product on the market.
If this were an antibiotic and you were seeing all these side effects, it would have been yanked off a long time ago. Normally, The FDA will put a black box warning on a medication if there have been five deaths. They will pull it off the market if there have been 50.
Well, according to VAERS, which VAERS is Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, and it's vastly underreported, which I have seen firsthand.
According to VAERS, there have been 38,000 deaths from these COVID shots. So under normal circumstances, the FDA would have pulled it. But instead, they've doubled down. They've put the shots on the childhood vaccine schedule. All babies are expected to get three COVID shots by the time they're nine months old. The shots are still under EUA status for this age group.
So under 12, they're not even fully approved by the FDA. And yet they're on the vaccine schedule. And according to the CDC, 9 million American children have gotten the latest version of these COVID shots. Yes. Yes.
The concern I have with these kids. So we know Myocarditis.
Yes. Yes.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah.
It should have been shut down a long time ago.
Yeah. Well, children.
Minors. Yeah.
You might remember initially LabCorp was the only lab in the country that had the test and they became inundated and it was taking two weeks to get the test results back. So we had a saliva test and people could just, we could just give a cup and they could sit in their car and spit in it. And then we'd have the results back the next day. So that sort of, that's where it all started.
It's still compulsory in some states. Yes. And some businesses, not in Texas. So Texas actually passed a law outlawing mandates for COVID shots. But I actually reached out to people on Twitter yesterday and they said all these people say, yeah, it's still requiring shots for jobs or a nursing program or even transplants.
Well, the shots need to be pulled off the market immediately.
Who could do that? The FDA. So Marty Macari, he could do that. um and then we need accountability i mean we need we can't sweep this under the rug because we will never restore that trust and that's that's the key thing is if nothing happens it's just a festering wound and uh the trust will never come back are there any indications that this is coming soon
I mean, I'm not privy to conversations in the government.
Yeah.
I have not. I mean, it seems to me that HHS, their focus now has shifted or I don't know, their focus is on food and food quality and improving that. And I haven't heard a word about COVID or the COVID shots.
Not, I mean, maybe I've missed something, but that's, I mean, I'm just reading what you're reading. I mean, I don't.
Yeah, exactly.
Yes. And my concern, giving it to babies, because myocarditis.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely. You can find it on the CDC.
Yeah, that's why we can't let this just go away. Babies, so myocarditis, we know there's an increased risk of myocarditis in teenage boys who take these shots. We don't know what that risk is for nonverbal babies because the symptom is chest pain. So a baby, the baby could be getting myocarditis and we have no idea. Myocarditis can leave a scar on the heart.
And then monoclonal antibodies came about and those worked great. I mean, I could get as many doses as I wanted. I'd get them the next day. I'd just contact the manufacturer, say I need 200 doses. They'd be at my doorstep.
And then years later, the heart is permanently- Right, you're playing lacrosse and you drop. Right, and that's my big concern. These babies could be getting myocarditis and we have no idea.
I think, well, what I have been looking at is spike protein antibody levels. So when you get a vaccine, you can, traditionally we call them titers. So like people who get hepatitis B vaccine, you can look at the titers, the antibody levels and see if you have protection. We do that as in the hospital a lot.
So they wanna make sure if you work in the hospital, if you get stuck by a needle, you're not gonna get hepatitis B. So I've started looking at these spike protein antibody levels, and it's alarming because the people, I can tell immediately if somebody had the shot. In the vaccinated, these antibody levels are, I did an average last night, 13,000. In the unvaccinated, the average is 1,000.
So there's huge discrepancy.
Yeah, years after. And these people, most of these people have gotten two, maybe three. Nobody's gotten more than that. And none of these people have been sick recently with COVID. So it's very alarming to me. It suggests, I mean, we don't know, but it suggests that spike protein is still active and still replicating possibly in the body. I mean, the mRNA in these shots is not mRNA.
It's a synthetic mRNA. And it was made to avoid degradation. So it's made to stay in the body. That was the purpose of it, of modifying it. So when I see these levels like this, it really concerns me that we have an issue with this ongoing spike protein in the body.
Well, I think cancer is a big concern. I think immune dysfunction.
Well, the spike protein is oncogenic. Shunxin talked about that. So viruses can be oncogenic. It appears that the spike protein, the mRNA shots have SV40 in it, which is an oncogenic virus. There's something called frame shifting. So when the mRNA is integrating that it can produce new proteins just by little mistakes that happen.
great they worked wonderfully people turned around very quickly and but what happened is in the and this is during that big surge when jason jones as sheriff's deputy got sick couldn't get monoclonal antibodies couldn't get ivermectin when in 2001 was that you remember So the summer of 2021, well, so let's start in the spring of 2021. So this is following the rollout of the COVID shots.
So these new proteins, we don't know what they are, but they could cause autoimmune disease and possibly cancer as well. There's just a lot unknowns. I mean, we don't even, we need a test to detect spike protein. All we have now is antibody test. We really need a lot more. We need an antidote.
We need I mean, I am struggling because I have all these injured people and I usually start with ivermectin and ivermectin helps. It binds the spike protein and it's anti-inflammatory. But we're really limited and we need a solution. So we need the NIH to really dig into this and help these injured patients because they're very challenging.
And, you know, we're sort of just, you know, experimenting because we don't know.
I would say, I mean, I get, you know, I've tried a lot of things and the thing that works the best is ivermectin. But it's slow going. It's, you know, I usually put people on for a long period of time before saying, okay, this is not going to work. And it's just hard because we, you know, there's just not, we need the NIH to step up and help us.
So I don't get the sudden, you know, collapse, myocarditis, stroke sort of situation because I'm outpatient.
Right. I see the... Yeah, it varies, but I've seen some very strange rashes that don't go away with steroids and antihistamines.
Like bumpy, red, splotchy. I mean, I had this poor kid, 15 years old. It was all over his face, all over his body, and he responded so well to ivermectin. That was a great case.
Yeah, it came on right. I mean, he had no prior history. He's 15. He's 15. It came on right after the COVID shots. I see POTS. So POTS is when the blood pressure drops suddenly or goes up real high suddenly for no clear trigger and your pulse may be erratic as well. That's been a big thing with the COVID patients. That's very difficult to fix. I've seen a lot of neurological.
The government is upset because people are not buying it. People are not getting, there's very low uptake, very low interest or suspicion of these shots. So in March, they started their PR campaign, the government. They went after ivermectin. The FDA put something on their website about you can't use ivermectin for COVID. That Biden doled out $11.5 billion to groups around the country.
postural orthostatic hyper or temporal hyper postural orthostatic syncope.
But so, so you feel faint. So you may just be standing there and your blood pressure drops or, or your, or your pulse goes up way high and you feel like you're having a panic attack, that sort of thing. So it's symptomatic changes in your blood pressure that occur without any kind of trigger.
Yeah, yeah. And it's very hard to treat. So I see a lot of that. I've seen neurological tremors.
Oh yeah, yeah, no, no.
I saw a patient a little bit older than me, CEO of a company. He came in and he gave me his business card and he said, hi, I'm this so-and-so. And he gave me his other card and he go, and this is the biggest mistake I've ever made in my life. He gave me his vaccine card. Very difficult to, I mean, we've gotten a little bit of improvement, but just, you know, and a lot of fatigue.
Whole body, his whole body.
A lot of these patients say they feel a lot of burning, like pins and needles when they sleep. which is typical with neuropathy. That sounds like a life destroyer. No, yeah, it's bad. And they don't just, it's not like giving them an antibiotic and a week later they're better. These are chronic conditions. And the government's not helping.
So, you know, Breon Dressen of React 19, I don't know if she, so React 19 is a organization started to help the injured from, you know, with the COVID shots. The head of that organization was involved in the AstraZeneca trial. So she was a, she volunteered to be a guinea pig and she got injured. Government just came out and said they're not going to help her.
They're not going to give her any kind of financial reimbursement.
Maybe a week or two ago.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Companies have no liability risk with these products. And the PrEP Act even further protects them.
It does not expire until 2029.
Anything that's designated as a countermeasure is protected. So anything that happens in the hospitals, anything that happens from these shots, it's all protected from liability. There is one really monumental lawsuit going on that could change that. Brooke Jackson is a whistleblower for Pfizer, and she was involved in the research. So she was at the clinical trial sites.
She was the manager, and she was seeing all sorts of issues with the way they were conducting the trial. And she brought that to the company's attention. She brought that to the FDA's attention and she was fired. So she has been in this gigantic legal battle against Pfizer for a long time now. I think we're going on four years. And unfortunately, and this was during Biden, the DOJ stepped in and
and basically said, no, you can't sue Pfizer. It's crazy.
The DOJ stuck up for Pfizer, which is not usually how that works.
Exactly.
It doesn't seem very radical to me. Seems like common sense.
Well, you look at, OK, what was their past history? Do they have any issues? Were they otherwise healthy? And then when did these things start happening? And the timeline. And then the other thing is they typically go to other doctors and they get the million dollar workup and they can't find anything to explain it. And the doctors are baffled. They put them on psychiatric medications.
Initially, it started with 275. It went up to 17,000. Influencers, church groups, sports leagues, all sorts of people just just funneling out taxpayer money to go after doctors like myself that were spreading misinformation and to, you know, this is you push people to get these COVID shots. So that happened in the spring and.
Oh, yeah. I saw one patient on a sleeping pill, a benzodiazepine and an antidepressant.
Mm-hmm.
Yes. Yes. They don't get reported to VAERS. I've had to report every single patient that came to see me for an injury. Even though they'd seen multiple other doctors, it was me that had to report it to VAERS. So I know it's underreported.
Yeah. It's not subtle. If you look on there, you don't have to have a degree in statistics to understand what's going on. I mean, it's like nothing's happening and then whoosh, you know, just – It's not subtle.
Right.
COVID!
Not to my knowledge. I mean, I could have missed that, but no.
There's probably people that have access to that data, but publicly it's hard. And so I have to rely. I don't see a ton of cancer in my practice, but I do have friends at MD Anderson, and they said they've never seen anything like it. The young people coming in with very advanced tumors, I think that's what we have to be worried about now.
So Houston Methodist Hospital, and that's where I had privileges, they were the first hospital in the country to mandate the shots. And this was April 1st, 2021. And this was the exact day that Biden announced COVID-19 community core, that multi-billion dollar propaganda effort. I think it was very purposeful. I think the mandate started in Houston for a reason.
Yeah.
It could be there could be an agenda behind it. It could just be a total inefficiency of the bureaucracy. It's hard to say. But yeah, it'd be nice if we could have more data.
Yeah, it is. But, you know, it's it's also I guess it's complicated in some degrees to get it all out there. But, yeah, transparency would be even more. aside from the cancer numbers. I mean, like I said, with COVID, there are all these hospitals that had so much data at their disposal and didn't share it.
It'd be nice to see, you know, Houston Methodist come out and share their data with us since they were the first, they led the way with the mandates. It'd be nice to see how successful that effort was for their employees and for their patients.
I actually sued them to get that data.
I lost.
I don't know. It was just political grounds, I think. I sued to get their financial data because as a nonprofit, they are supposed to give it to you if somebody from the public wants to know. This is what they get in exchange for not paying property taxes. Right, right, right, right. But there was some technicality. I don't understand really why we lost, but we did.
We even appealed and we lost on appeal.
I think people are feeling more empowered, which is how they should be. I mean, they're not listening to the government for their health care decisions anymore. I think people have learned from that mistake. And, you know, I haven't lost all hope. I'm grateful, you know... There was a time where I couldn't even... I was banned from Twitter. I don't know if you were.
But, you know, we are... Free speech is coming back.
Right. Right. Well, and, you know, we're making. Hey, I'm grateful to you for having me on here because this is old news to most people. Right. And, you know, we just need to keep speaking out. We just need to keep. I mean, my foot is on the pedal, you know, even though there is no pandemic anymore. But we must just keep pounding away at this.
I think that they knew if they could get away with the mandates in Texas, they could get away with them anywhere.
I think, you know, the money is there for the treatment, not for the cause. Right. So it is, you know, there's lots of money. It's just going towards.
He was, you know, he...
Right. But this is not I mean, this is financially driven. So if you're in it to make money, you're going to go after the treatment, not the cause.
Yeah.
It's been very difficult, but it's been impactful. And... In some ways, I'm glad it happened. It's been very educational. And I have hope that it will change. It may take another generation, but COVID should be the wake-up call. And the seeds were there before COVID, but COVID brought it all out there. And hopefully, we could actually learn from it and change course.
Yeah, he was a little slow to act. I mean, he was on board with Methodist. In fact, I have the CEO of Methodist, Dr. Mark Boom, on camera saying that Governor Abbott wanted them to get a shot in every arm. That's according to the CEO of Methodist. But, you know, he did come through eventually, but... This is early on. So then that summer started having all these breakthrough cases.
Yeah. I mean, I... What I've realized is I made a lot of assumptions about vaccines. It was the gospel according to vaccines. When I was in training, there was no questioning it. It was just accepted fact. They were safe and effective. And COVID made me realize, well, hold on, let's see how they were tested. And they have not been tested like other products on the market.
So they don't have placebo-controlled trials.
No, not like the other products on the market. And they don't have liability protection. So the companies are not motivated.
Yeah, sorry. Yes. So the companies are not motivated. There's no repercussion if something goes wrong. And there's no reason for it to spend a lot of money to ensure that it's safe. So now, you know, I have... questions about all of them. Now, I will say I'm not seeing the carnage from flu shot that I've seen with the COVID shot. I think there's a different degree of danger there.
But it does make me question it all. And if you look at the flu shot, in fact, has never been shown to decrease hospitalization or death in people that get the flu shot. And it actually makes you more susceptible to other viruses. And you can treat it. So
Right.
Well, remove their liability protection. Do you have liability protection? Do I?
No, no, I don't actually.
Yeah, yeah, it'd be nice.
Exactly. That would be great.
Yeah. So, I mean, just make them go through the process any other product has to go through. It's not very complicated.
Yeah.
Apparently, it was in 1986 when Reagan put the act in place. I guess there were two companies that almost got just decimated financially because of all the kickback, the lawsuits. That should have been a warning sign.
And I was seeing it because I was testing people. So I started to track people by their vaccination status. And I saw that the vaccinated outnumbered the unvaccinated and they were just as sick, if not sicker. So I brought this to the attention of Houston Methodist.
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People that were coming to my office to get tested.
Well, we can get to that. Yeah. Because I mean, I'm independent. So it allowed me to do things that other doctors can't do. But I was actually collaborating with Methodist. I was sharing my data with them because I had so many, I mean, basically I was just, all I saw was COVID for a few years. And we were trying to get the data published. So we had a good relationship.
So I reached out and I said, hey, are you seeing what I'm seeing? Like these, all these breakthrough cases. At the same time, I had all these people coming to me very distraught about the mandates. Because we were ahead of the time, right? This was before the rest of the country was mandating the shots. But in Houston, a lot of people at Houston Methodist, they employ about 30,000 people.
very distraught over these mandates um and then i and then i see that they're not working at that time i wasn't seeing the injuries and at that time i was just very vocal against the mandates so
I, you know, in August, late August of 2021, FDA put out the infamous horse tweet, and that's the attractive healthcare worker nuzzling the horse and says, seriously, y'all, you're not a horse, you're not a cow, stop it. Tweet went viral. That's right. That's when Joe Rogan got smeared for taking ivermectin.
And then right after that, Biden mandated the shots and they took away monoclonal antibodies. So it's all very orchestrated.
Right. But if you have monoclonal antibodies available as an option, people are going to do that rather than get the shot. So that's why, in my opinion, that's why they took away the monoclonal antibodies.
They worked great. I mean, it was.
Yeah, in my opinion, definitely.
So their response was one sentence and said, well, we think the shots are there to lessen the severity. Well, interestingly enough, they've never shared their data, their hospital data. And being the first in the country to mandate the shots, you know they're sitting on an enormous amount of data.
And if the shots had been effective in preventing transmission or lowering the severity, then they should have shared that. They would have shared that. They would have been screaming that from the rooftops if it fits their agenda. But they've been very quiet about that. So, you know, I had, you know, all these things, all these patients coming to me very distraught.
I had one patient come to me and tell me that her urologist at Houston Methodist called her and said, you're going to need to find a new urologist if you don't get the COVID shots. And she had a history of bladder cancer. So she was very upset and she was calling me to try to find a new urologist that I won't treat you.
Well, he said that the department was talking, having discussions about not treating patients that were unvaccinated.
No, this is at Houston Methodist Hospital.
Yes. That's what he told this patient.
Yeah, well, we saw all sorts of moral issues during the pandemic.
Crimes. So, yeah, that happened. And then on the exact same day, I got a notice from a surgery center where I operate that I'd have to get the COVID shot to continue operating. And then on the same day, I got a notice from this hospital where I was trying to help the sheriff's deputy. They had a court order to give me emergency temporary privileges so that I could give him ivermectin.
The wife sued. And she was, you know, last ditch effort. Let a dying man try ivermectin.
Yes. I testified. She asked me to testify. I testified. Senator Bob Hall testified. We won. And the court was ordered to give me emergency temporary privileges. And then I was to either myself personally give the ivermectin to him or have a nurse do it because they thought it was too dangerous for one of their own members to do it.
With ivermectin, which is insane. Anyway, I got a notice that they were going to deny my privileges, even though, I mean, I've never been sued for malpractice, spotless record. They made me get letters of recommendation. They made me submit my surgical case logs. They just fought tooth and nail to make the whole process as difficult as they could.
And the lawyers ended up having to go back to the judge and fight with, you know, fight with them over just giving me privileges. Whereas, you know, at that time, there was a shortage. You know, they needed doctors to work in the hospitals anymore.
And if I under other circumstances, if I had just shown up and said, hey, I want to help out in the ICU, they would have granted me privileges the same day. There wouldn't have been any kind of letters or recommendation or surgery.
No. So this is interesting. So the lawyers that were doing this case, Ralph Lorigo and Beth Parlato, they did 189 cases around the country. Similar situation. The spouse is suing the hospital to try to get their loved one ivermectin in this last ditch effort to save their lives. Half of those people, they won the case. And in the cases where they won, all but three patients died.
In the cases where they lost, all the patients died. I mean, it's really amazing. And apparently the judges, their political party, matched the outcome of the trial. So the Republican judges were the ones that ruled in favor of the plaintiff. And then the Democrat judges were the ones that ruled against the plaintiff.
So, you know, we, there was a lot of back and forth. It was very confusing. It was very, happening very quickly. And, you know, his life is on the line. And they basically, the lawyers told me, you have the green light. We're gonna go ahead. We can go. It's all good. Everything's cleared. So I send the nurse to the hospital and she's greeted by the police and the hospital administrator.
and turned away. And he never is allowed to get the ivermectin. They appealed and managed to get a stay on the order. And then on appeal, they lost. So the wife, luckily she was able to go into the hospital every day, which was unusual. Most spouses didn't get to do that, but that was one good thing. And this was at Texas Hughley Hospital in Fort Worth.
So she applied ivermectin to him topically every day without the hospital knowing. The hospital tied up his feeding tube because they didn't want her sneaking anything in. They put towels and rubber bands around it so that nothing could be snuck in.