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David Frankel

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Yeah. I mean, we were in at the beginning of PillPack, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Yeah. I mean, we were in at the beginning of PillPack, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Yeah. I mean, we were in at the beginning of PillPack, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Entrepreneurs need to do the math on that as well. Entrepreneurs need to be doing the math on that. It goes back to our point is, if you take 20 million from a billion-dollar fund, do you move the needle for that? What does it take for you to move the needle there?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Entrepreneurs need to do the math on that as well. Entrepreneurs need to be doing the math on that. It goes back to our point is, if you take 20 million from a billion-dollar fund, do you move the needle for that? What does it take for you to move the needle there?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Entrepreneurs need to do the math on that as well. Entrepreneurs need to be doing the math on that. It goes back to our point is, if you take 20 million from a billion-dollar fund, do you move the needle for that? What does it take for you to move the needle there?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And if entrepreneurs get a $10 million check from XYZ large-scale fund, and a partner doesn't join the board, that is not a good signal. I think if a partner says, I'm putting in $5 million and I'm joining your board, right? Like everybody goes like, you know, multi-stage firms or a seed. I think there are other ways.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And if entrepreneurs get a $10 million check from XYZ large-scale fund, and a partner doesn't join the board, that is not a good signal. I think if a partner says, I'm putting in $5 million and I'm joining your board, right? Like everybody goes like, you know, multi-stage firms or a seed. I think there are other ways.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

And if entrepreneurs get a $10 million check from XYZ large-scale fund, and a partner doesn't join the board, that is not a good signal. I think if a partner says, I'm putting in $5 million and I'm joining your board, right? Like everybody goes like, you know, multi-stage firms or a seed. I think there are other ways.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

If a partner at a multi-stage firm, billion dollar firm says to Harry, five on 20, and I'm going to join your board, I would say that's a strong signal. That's very tough for me to compete against. They're saying to you, I'm going to spend time here.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

If a partner at a multi-stage firm, billion dollar firm says to Harry, five on 20, and I'm going to join your board, I would say that's a strong signal. That's very tough for me to compete against. They're saying to you, I'm going to spend time here.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

If a partner at a multi-stage firm, billion dollar firm says to Harry, five on 20, and I'm going to join your board, I would say that's a strong signal. That's very tough for me to compete against. They're saying to you, I'm going to spend time here.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

But some of them show up. Some of them show up. And I just want to give credit where credit's due. There are people who show up. Then there are people who are very disciplined and say, like, I'm not investing. Again, percentage of the fund and what it takes to return that fund is very indicative of whether you'll get time or not.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

But some of them show up. Some of them show up. And I just want to give credit where credit's due. There are people who show up. Then there are people who are very disciplined and say, like, I'm not investing. Again, percentage of the fund and what it takes to return that fund is very indicative of whether you'll get time or not.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

But some of them show up. Some of them show up. And I just want to give credit where credit's due. There are people who show up. Then there are people who are very disciplined and say, like, I'm not investing. Again, percentage of the fund and what it takes to return that fund is very indicative of whether you'll get time or not.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Yeah. I think for entrepreneurs and for LPs, size of fund, check in company versus size of fund tells you everything.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Yeah. I think for entrepreneurs and for LPs, size of fund, check in company versus size of fund tells you everything.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Yeah. I think for entrepreneurs and for LPs, size of fund, check in company versus size of fund tells you everything.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

They are dialed back. They've dialed back a little. But I think they'll always go, look, we have to have 1% or 2% or 3% in VC. Oh, way more. Or more. So I'm going minimum. Absolutely. Totally. If you look at the Swanson model, VCP, it was more like 30%.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

They are dialed back. They've dialed back a little. But I think they'll always go, look, we have to have 1% or 2% or 3% in VC. Oh, way more. Or more. So I'm going minimum. Absolutely. Totally. If you look at the Swanson model, VCP, it was more like 30%.