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David Frankel

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

LPs are pissed off at the moment. LPs are looking at this asset class right now, I think, and going, where is the DPI? And they did unbelievably well. And some of them are scared to sit it out. And it depends what kind of LP you are. If you're an endowment or you're like a parastatal or something, you've got to be in this asset class. And your allocation can still be tiny.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

LPs are pissed off at the moment. LPs are looking at this asset class right now, I think, and going, where is the DPI? And they did unbelievably well. And some of them are scared to sit it out. And it depends what kind of LP you are. If you're an endowment or you're like a parastatal or something, you've got to be in this asset class. And your allocation can still be tiny.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

But I think LPs are looking at this right now and going, where is the DPI?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

But I think LPs are looking at this right now and going, where is the DPI?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

But I think LPs are looking at this right now and going, where is the DPI?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I think vintage matters so much. I look at our 2020 fund and I go, that's actually gonna be okay. 2018 fund, I go, I'm much more worried about that. We need DPI there. I agree with you. By the way, I think what we've seen is like the more polarization than I've ever seen in my career before.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I think vintage matters so much. I look at our 2020 fund and I go, that's actually gonna be okay. 2018 fund, I go, I'm much more worried about that. We need DPI there. I agree with you. By the way, I think what we've seen is like the more polarization than I've ever seen in my career before.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

I think vintage matters so much. I look at our 2020 fund and I go, that's actually gonna be okay. 2018 fund, I go, I'm much more worried about that. We need DPI there. I agree with you. By the way, I think what we've seen is like the more polarization than I've ever seen in my career before.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

We've seen this completely binary outcome thing where companies are losing it and companies are doing very well. And to return these seed funds, you can't just have these huge, it's great for PR, it's great for your story to say like I was in XYZ great company, but actually fund returners, you need four or five good companies. If we sell four companies at $250 million each, we can return a fund.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

We've seen this completely binary outcome thing where companies are losing it and companies are doing very well. And to return these seed funds, you can't just have these huge, it's great for PR, it's great for your story to say like I was in XYZ great company, but actually fund returners, you need four or five good companies. If we sell four companies at $250 million each, we can return a fund.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

We've seen this completely binary outcome thing where companies are losing it and companies are doing very well. And to return these seed funds, you can't just have these huge, it's great for PR, it's great for your story to say like I was in XYZ great company, but actually fund returners, you need four or five good companies. If we sell four companies at $250 million each, we can return a fund.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

If we sell 10 companies at 100 million each, Like nobody cares about that we can return a fund. And if you don't have that, you're in trouble again.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

If we sell 10 companies at 100 million each, Like nobody cares about that we can return a fund. And if you don't have that, you're in trouble again.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

If we sell 10 companies at 100 million each, Like nobody cares about that we can return a fund. And if you don't have that, you're in trouble again.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Look, Harry, I will be infinitely grateful to have been in Uber. My gratitude to Eric knows no boundaries. Can I ask, how many times did Uber return the fund? I mean, Uber is just in itself. Yeah, it's just it's just that's incredible. Tradesk was a bigger outcome for us. Coupang returned the fund and multiple times.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Look, Harry, I will be infinitely grateful to have been in Uber. My gratitude to Eric knows no boundaries. Can I ask, how many times did Uber return the fund? I mean, Uber is just in itself. Yeah, it's just it's just that's incredible. Tradesk was a bigger outcome for us. Coupang returned the fund and multiple times.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

Look, Harry, I will be infinitely grateful to have been in Uber. My gratitude to Eric knows no boundaries. Can I ask, how many times did Uber return the fund? I mean, Uber is just in itself. Yeah, it's just it's just that's incredible. Tradesk was a bigger outcome for us. Coupang returned the fund and multiple times.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

If I look at and then we've got in SeatGeek and Airtable potential fund, you know, fund returners again in fund one. But but Harry, here's the thing is PillPack returned fund two. I am so grateful to Elliot and TJ. PillPack returned fund two. Yeah.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

If I look at and then we've got in SeatGeek and Airtable potential fund, you know, fund returners again in fund one. But but Harry, here's the thing is PillPack returned fund two. I am so grateful to Elliot and TJ. PillPack returned fund two. Yeah.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Investing Lessons from FC Seeding Uber, Airtable and Coupang | Why Pro Rata is the Original Sin in VC | Why Liquidity Has Died in 2024 | Why LPs are Pissed with VCs | The Hard Truth About Seed Fund Economics with David Frankel @ Founder Collective

If I look at and then we've got in SeatGeek and Airtable potential fund, you know, fund returners again in fund one. But but Harry, here's the thing is PillPack returned fund two. I am so grateful to Elliot and TJ. PillPack returned fund two. Yeah.