Dave Davies

And there are moments where it seems that the authors are torn between advocating for traditional conservative policies and those in some cases that President Trump has articulated. They're not quite sure what to say. One of these is trade policy, right?

And there are moments where it seems that the authors are torn between advocating for traditional conservative policies and those in some cases that President Trump has articulated. They're not quite sure what to say. One of these is trade policy, right?

And there are moments where it seems that the authors are torn between advocating for traditional conservative policies and those in some cases that President Trump has articulated. They're not quite sure what to say. One of these is trade policy, right?

So this – the project advocates for a more aggressive use of executive power. But in this case, not quite sure what it should do with it.

So this – the project advocates for a more aggressive use of executive power. But in this case, not quite sure what it should do with it.

So this – the project advocates for a more aggressive use of executive power. But in this case, not quite sure what it should do with it.

What about foreign policy and national security? I mean issues like the war in Ukraine and the European alliances?

What about foreign policy and national security? I mean issues like the war in Ukraine and the European alliances?

What about foreign policy and national security? I mean issues like the war in Ukraine and the European alliances?

Right. And in some ways, they are much more aggressive towards China than Trump has been, right? I mean, Trump often praises Xi Jinping. He has been kind of lukewarm about the defense of Taiwan. There are differences here, aren't there?

Right. And in some ways, they are much more aggressive towards China than Trump has been, right? I mean, Trump often praises Xi Jinping. He has been kind of lukewarm about the defense of Taiwan. There are differences here, aren't there?

Right. And in some ways, they are much more aggressive towards China than Trump has been, right? I mean, Trump often praises Xi Jinping. He has been kind of lukewarm about the defense of Taiwan. There are differences here, aren't there?

They meaning Project 2025, right? Right. The other interesting thing is that I gather Project 2025 really wants the United States to compete with China for influence around the world. I mean China has this Belt and Road Initiative where it's spending a lot of money on infrastructure projects in the developing world. They want the United States to get in there and play in that arena also?

They meaning Project 2025, right? Right. The other interesting thing is that I gather Project 2025 really wants the United States to compete with China for influence around the world. I mean China has this Belt and Road Initiative where it's spending a lot of money on infrastructure projects in the developing world. They want the United States to get in there and play in that arena also?

They meaning Project 2025, right? Right. The other interesting thing is that I gather Project 2025 really wants the United States to compete with China for influence around the world. I mean China has this Belt and Road Initiative where it's spending a lot of money on infrastructure projects in the developing world. They want the United States to get in there and play in that arena also?

And when you say USAID, you mean that's the acronym for Agency for International Development, this tool of foreign policy, right? And international aid. Yeah.

And when you say USAID, you mean that's the acronym for Agency for International Development, this tool of foreign policy, right? And international aid. Yeah.

And when you say USAID, you mean that's the acronym for Agency for International Development, this tool of foreign policy, right? And international aid. Yeah.

Right. I believe Elon Musk's phrase was, I just put AID in the wood chipper. Let's look at some other policy areas. One is in the environment and climate change. You write in your book that Project 2025's discussion of environmental issues and energy production feels like a dispatch from an alternate world. What do you mean?

Right. I believe Elon Musk's phrase was, I just put AID in the wood chipper. Let's look at some other policy areas. One is in the environment and climate change. You write in your book that Project 2025's discussion of environmental issues and energy production feels like a dispatch from an alternate world. What do you mean?