Daryl Davis

I pulled Jeff aside.

and just talk to him, just one-on-one, man-to-man, no cameras, whatever.

We just talked about a couple different things, talked about women and this, that, and the other.

Just what guys talk about.

Yeah.

And we exchanged phone numbers.

And then the following year, 2017, he was involved in that large white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, that turned deadly.

And I knew a lot of the people who were involved in there, including... That was when the guy in the car ran over people in the crowd?

Yes.

And I know the guy who organized that thing.

He's been in my house.

I've sat down with them.

I've been in some of their homes, etc.

And...

I'd gotten wind that Jeff was rethinking, you know.

I said, you know what, let me stop reading all this stuff and find out for myself.

So I found his number that he had given me, and fortunately he still had the same number.

I called him up.

And he remembered me, of course, and we chatted on the phone.

And then I had – we stayed in contact.