Chris Sullivan
Appearances
That Was Us
Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
So wait, before we get to this. All right, Trump or Biden? No, stop. Before we get to this date, the question that occurred to me Can any of you guys recall your first date with your wife or husband?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Yeah. That's pretty awesome. Yeah, it was a good date. Did she say anything to you in hindsight after like he, you really wanted to take me to Kinko's? Like, was she thinking anything about like?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
No complaints. I would agree. I feel like I'm getting older because I am. I don't feel old. No. You know what I'm saying?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Okay, I'm going to be honest with you guys right now. I struggle with giving gifts. Not that I don't want to give gifts. I just don't know what the right thing is. And with Mother's Day coming up, whether it's my mom or my wife, I have no idea what to do. Especially when they hit you with that classic, don't get me anything. But of course, I still want to give them something that feels special.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Well, thank you very much. You know what I mean? Don't crack, baby. That's what they say. You know what I'm saying? But it's just a joy to live life. You see this family growing up around you and with you. My kids are almost 14 and 10. Wow. And you remember seeing them when they were babies on set and everything. And it's just, they're a joy to behold. And you see them grow up.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Well, I was young. You know, the Bird and I have known each other since freshman year of college, but we didn't actually start dating until junior year of college. And we didn't even go—we went on a date after we got together. Because you get together, you're on campus and you're in college or whatnot.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
And so the circumstances under us getting together are sort of like weird because she was dating this other guy and she was hiding it. And then she broke up with the guy and then we wound up sort of like hooking up. And so we're together. But I was like, we should go on a date. So we go to this place close to Stanford. It's called Armadillo Willie's. It's like a barbecue sandwich place. I know it.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Do you? Really? Yeah, so we go to Armadillo Willie's. I think this is our first date. We get sandwiches or whatnot. And what I notice about Ryan Michelle, and to this day, her favorite sort of food is French fries, right? Like for Lent.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
For Lent, it's usually like one of the things that she'll... Steak fries. Shoestring. More shoestring, more, you know, McDonald's. She'll go waffle too.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
But Armadillo Willie's has like a seasoned sort of textured fry.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
That's my favorite. So what I'm noticing at this date... It was like they give a big bowl of fries for the date so that you can kind of share it with each other. And I'm eating my sandwich and if I grab a fry, she'll grab a fry. And she's very particular about which fries she wants. You see her looking through the thing. Looking. And this woman, I was like, oh, she's going to eat all the fries.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Indeed. Indeed you do. So yeah, this is the beginning of season three, gang. That's right. We've done two seasons of this old podcast thing. We've been enjoying ourselves. We're keeping the show rolling. That's right. Right? What's popping in season three? What are we going to talk about first?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Yeah. So I was like, I have to get in there. And so the small but subtle tug of war over like- The good fries. Oh yeah. I was like, let me get the fry. And she's like, oh yeah. We're talking about middle potato.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Not the butt of the potato. The whole time we're talking to each other, but there's also like, you ain't gonna eat more fries than me on this show.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
There's some... I'm trying to think of what... Special sauce? Barbecue sauce at Armadillo Willie's. These days, though, I like a good aioli. I've been converted with the European. Ketchup is passe. I'm all about the mayonnaise. I'm serious.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
But Heinz, if you're listening... Listen, if you want to... Heinz makes mayo, too.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Wow. But yeah. But that's such a cool thing. In a way, it feels similar to mine. I had three years of knowing Ryan and sort of developing this friendship before anything ever happened. But it's like, you loved that person. Yeah. Before you, the other part wasn't even as important. Or it was just like the icing on the cake.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Okay. So they drive home. The date's going poorly, right? And Jack finally fesses up. He's like- They're sitting in the car, right? Sitting in the car. In front of your house. In front of her place. And he's like, I didn't have money to get the umbrella because I wanted to save money in case you wanted to play games, right?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Like, you don't take a girl to the carnival and not be able to let her play the games. And Rebecca says, I don't play games. Oh wait, games at the carnival, sorry. And they admit that it's not gone the way that they were hoping that it would go. Rebecca says, there's some moves my friends told me, like if you have a good date, you're supposed to leave something behind in the car, right?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
But it's also like, I like seeing... Rebecca slash Mandy Moore, you'd be like, she's got game.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
She says, so it's a no on cats. He's like, I'm allergic. And no on mushrooms. He's like, I hate them. He's like, I really hate them. And she says, gosh, I'm supposed to take this off and leave. And it's not supposed to happen. But there's something about the way that you look at me, dog.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
dog something about the way you look at me dog that i'm like i like the way you see me yeah and then you come over and this kiss i love the i love the jack rebecca kiss mouths open full oh yeah full-on open and just like tasting each other baby do it slow Right? And then she leaves. But as she leaves the car, you see this little thing slip off the back. She's like, bye, Jack.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
I know you got Gary Vee anymore. Don't lie to me.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
He sees it go, but he also sees that she left her garment in the car.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
It's good stuff, right? So the episode doesn't end there, right? No. The episode, and that storyline in particular, ends with Jack coming back the next day or whatnot, sort of feeling good about himself. He actually went home. His dad, who we know he has a complicated relationship with his dad, and he's like, what are you smiling about, boy? He's like, nothing, man.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Like, even you right now can't bring me down off the high that I'm on because I met the girl, you know? And he goes back the next day to see the girl. and we hear on the voiceover from the sports announcer because he's talking about the immaculate reception. Right. And Franco Harris and how the ball ricocheted off of one player. He winds up catching it, running in for a touchdown.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
And as this is playing over, there's some dude... at the door standing with Rebecca. And this dude starts kissing.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
While my daddy is watching this happen. And my man says, Chris, take it from here.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
How does Fogman do come up with this crap, man?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Tying this together. We're like, what has Frank O'Hara got to do?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Oh, so you know what's funny? Like from being on the inside, I never thought about.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
That would have been a big swing. Let's jump into Black Pearsons, right? Yes. Because Dej, we see that she busted up the car at the end of last season. She's apologetic and she's doing some things to try to get herself together. She's running. Like Randall had suggested, and he's trying to keep up with her. And it's real quick. She talked about how she started running and how fast she was going.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
And she wanted me, this is lyrics, saying like, that's fast, right? And I'd be like, yes. I was like, that's really fast. And she was like, how fast do you run? And I was like, as fast as I need to for this scene. And she's like, but can you run as fast as me on the treadmill? And I was like...
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
I was like, don't worry about it. Whatever you do, I will struggle cinematically right behind you. Cinematically. It's hysterical. It was really, really good. Yeah. And then we see that, you know, custody is shifting and that Shauna is giving up her parental rights and the dad is not going to be present.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
He's made it clear that he doesn't want to have anything to do with the situation, which is all. And we learned that this is permanent.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
This time it's permanent. The judge uses the word permanently.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
yep there we go it is the it is uh the pearson's birthday right so randall finds a note in bed his birthday deja thinks back to her dad as like all the kids are doing things for dad and sort of preparing for the birthday celebration and you see i think we see for the first time do we see the bike shop in that in that moment or not there's a flashback with her it's her and her mom walking by the bike shop yeah yeah yeah that's it uh
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
I guess I kind of have to touch a little bit on with the Beth and Randall part is also Zoe is staying with them.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
While she's working on her documentary. Yes.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
I don't even know if that was as written or that might have just been Sue.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
You know what's funny? When I watch us in that scene in particular, I said to myself, I was like, these are two people who love each other.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Like, it comes across really as an audience member.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
It's really, really cool to watch. Randall and Deja. So because they talk about in that scene also like, I think it's time for me to have the conversation. And you're like, oh, what conversation does he want to have with her? So he takes her to the apartment building that they bought where he first met William, where he lived and whatnot.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
And he tells her that this building sort of defined my life or being adopted.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Has defined my life, right? And I didn't have any say in it, and I don't want that to be the case for you. So I want to let you know that Beth and I would like to officially adopt you, but we want to make sure that that's something that you indeed want. This little girl, she just sort of hits you right in the gut.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
She's like, look, man, every time you try to come up with these scenarios where we're the same, I get a little cringy or whatnot because we're not. Like you had two dads who loved you very much. I had a dad that didn't want anything to do with me. Right. I've had to bounce from family to family to family. So you trying to come and act like we're the same, like just stop. Right.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
And I'm like, and he tried, dude tries so hard. And he tells her later, he's like, you know what? I'm sorry. I thought long hard about this. I had planned this speech. She's like, I could tell. And it just never quite goes the way that he's hoping that it would go with her, right? Then, I think you're an exceptional person.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
He says, I think you're an exceptional person and I miss talking to you. And at the end of that scene, she says, I'm sorry I screwed up your birthday, Randall. And he's like, you didn't. Like all these moments of like attempting to connect sort of work antithetically to what he's hoping for. So he thinks. Right?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Because ultimately something happens where Deja leaves the crib and she says, I got something I got to go do. Well, I think she's watching everybody get ready for the birthday party and whatnot and how much love they have for Randall. And so she goes to see her biological dad. Back to the bike shop. Back to the bike shop. And she's like, you don't have to pretend like you don't know who I am.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
I'm gonna do something great with my life. This family, they want me so bad that they plan out weird conversations to tell me. And so I came to ask you for one thing, then you'll never have to hear from me again. And in that conversation, she also says, they told me that I'm exceptional. That's the word that they use with me. And to the writers, I get this sort of like,
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
we think sometimes as parents that like our kids and then maybe as they get older for you guys but like as i'm talking to the teenager i'm like i don't know if this dude is hearing what i'm saying so i'll say it a couple times and it's probably going in one ear out the other and then you hear reflected back they're like oh they did she did hear it and it did mean something
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
You know, like the effort does mean something. Even though it doesn't go the way that he wants it to go in the moment, like the effort, the fact that there's a dude who wants me.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
It's such a beautiful thing for her to reflect back to that dad of hers. So she comes back and she has like running shoes. Yeah.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
It's a pair of running shoes, which is just like this thing that I've talked to her about. It's a real knowing sort of gift. You know what I'm saying?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
It's a future phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like these little future things.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Nondescript future phone. The thing to notice. is that he's in a big bed.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Por solo, by himself, and nobody's on the other side of the bed.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Well, so, okay, let's go into Katobi right now.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Because this storyline, I think, is really powerful on two levels. It's... Because we end last season knowing that Tobe has taken antidepressants, right? That that's a part of his history, essentially. Because I don't think we'd learned it until just before the wedding or right at the wedding there. Yeah. Yeah. Correct.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Yo. Hello. What's going on, gang? What's happening? It's good to see you guys.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
But we do know, we do have the flash forward to season three and we see Toby lying in the bread almost in a comatose state.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
With Kate being like, hey man, you know, take it easy. We'll get your medications adjusted. We'll get your medications adjusted. So now we start in a happy moment. We've just gotten married. You know, we can make this all right in the eyes of God. Let's knock these boots officially and get another child up in here, right?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
So they're excited, but we getting lots of negative pregnancy tests, what have you. We go to see the doctor and the doctor's like, you know, we're gonna try and figure some things out. There's different options. Toby, I'm gonna have to check you out too.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Yeah. But Doc says that she can't, I think it's in this one, she can't take Kate on as a patient because of her weight. It's a liability issue. And is this discussing IVF specifically in this particular one?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Yes. And this is true. Right. Like it is dangerous.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
And there are issues with regards to someone who is plus size. Right. And it's and it's interesting because like I'm taking a moment to pause in terms of like how we talk about it, you know, because there's a sensitivity that you have to pay to it. But there's also like real considered. Yeah. consequences, right?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Because later on, when we get to the next episode and Rebecca finds out, she's like, oh, this is dangerous, right? And then you have to respect the wishes of the family. They're like, we have considered the dangers and it is still something that we wish to do, right? So, and it's interesting to hear doctors say like, look, it's not even just my choice.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
I got partners in this firm and there's liability issues, et cetera. So, they leave that feeling pretty bummed out, right?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
And again, it's their birthday too. Let's not forget. And then she's got to go to a birthday party thrown by everybody's favorite best friend, Madison.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
And so to really sink into new territory is... And it's also, listen, because Metz is the divine human being that she is, it's like, it's all...
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
So if she's feeling it, she's feeling it.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
You pick up on that. Absolutely. So I'm trying to make sure I don't skip anything. And please help me out here, Chris, because does anything significant happen before you get the phone call?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
You know, I loved about that scene, you know, Madison tries to break the tension there with a little joke or not, but I love the way that you just listened. It was just, you were like, oh, my wife is... And because the listening also plays into the fact that, and we should reference this, that in that earlier conversation with the doctor, you take antidepressants.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
And she's like, well, maybe that's also bringing your sperm count down. He's like, but it's also keeping me from crying myself to bed. You know what I'm saying? So I should probably- from crying all the time. You know what I'm saying? So maybe I should stay with this.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
But in listening to the wife, I think that was one of the catalysts for you going to the medicine cabinet and being like, you know what? I got to get these swimmers up.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
No, I need strong semen. And that's what I'm going to do, right?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Right? So, and the doc says she wants to make the impossible possible. There's a 90% chance of failure. But if you want to take that on, I'll take you on as a patient. Toby Fain's enthusiasm. That's what I wrote in my notes.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Yay! Yay! Here we go! But what an interesting crossroads to be on.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Like... I don't know if you guys have had this sort of experience, but have you ever been at a crossroads with your partner as to a major life decision where you guys see it like fundamentally from like two different perspectives?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Yeah. And you're like, am I going to get an ROI?
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Yeah. Child, please. So thank you, Chris, for that. That does conclude that Katobi storyline for that episode, right?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
So then we should dig into Kev and Zoe. And Zoe. Is it open with them? Kevin, Zoe, they're trying to hide things, right? We saw at the end of season two, they were on a plane to Vietnam.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Yes. That's not a spoiler. Yeah. So now we're back in season three. There's boot knocking. There's fun that's being had or what have you, but we're trying to...
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
you know keep things on the low low but because there's a birthday party at your house for you and kevin me and kev right kevin is coming to the house he's coming to the house and zoe's like kevin coming here and which is fine and she's casual yeah it's gonna be casual but she's like you're gonna blow it like i can't if i see you in front of her beth's gonna know very cute and she does not want beth to know it's a totally nobody does phone calls like this is us it's
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Nobody does phone calls like this. We do pretty good. We do pretty good. Well, you got half the family on one coast. You better figure it out.
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Wittiest phone calls on television. A lot of phone calls, right? But they decide that they're going to keep things under wrap or what have you. As soon as Kev walks into the house, Beth looks at him and he says, y'all two are screwing. Yeah. And they're just like, right?
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They go, Beth is chewing out Zoe in the kitchen. And I love when Kev gets to talk to my daughters. Because they're just like, are you and Zoe dating right now? He's like, you know. Spending a lot of time together. Spending a lot of time together. It's not that deep.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
Yeah. That's when you know Kev is like, it could mean a little bit more to me, right? He's like, I did date Jennifer Love Hewitt or whatever. And he's like, he dated the girl from party to party.
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The way those two scenes were going back and forth with each other. But you see, like, Beth's upset.
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But it ultimately turns out, she winds up telling him, I adore you, brother-in-law. You're a good dude. You have a kind heart. You're the only person that talks to my daughters like they're not little kids, et cetera. I know my cousin. She will break you.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
And this is the reveal that she's actually protecting Kevin. Trying to protect Kevin. You know what I'm saying? And so now, because Zoe has just seemed like a breath of fresh air. Yeah. So we're kind of now waiting to be like, all right, so what is it about Zoe that we need to be wary of? Yeah. Right?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
You know what I mean? Do we end with them going to the premiere? Are they?
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
That's the next episode. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So that's everything in this episode, I think.
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Jack & Rebecca's First Date | "Nine Bucks" (301)
That was a good episode. Yeah. It was good to get back into it. To your point, Mandy and Chris- We go to the future. At the end of the episode, there's sort of a curiosity as to who they're going to see, right? We also know that Toby exists in this future timeline as well. without Kate, question mark, with Kate, et cetera.
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Then we go, let's go back to the carnival for a second, because for a moment, Rebecca says something to Jack about, it must've been tough going to the war, something about the war. And you see him just sort of instantaneously go.
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There's a flash to the battlefield, and he goes quiet, right? And he tells her, like, I don't really like to talk about the war, and I don't like to talk about my brother, right?
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He lied about being a mechanic, which is not true. But he does also say, I do like talking to you, right? Like, talking to you feels like home.
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feels like home. I was like, that's what you tell a woman that you want to marry. Don't say that to people that you don't want to marry. You know what I'm saying? Because otherwise they'll think you want to marry them.
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This feels like a HOA, and I want something that's more permanent.
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But so I say that because now, man, you were saying again, like Jack, there's mystery. And I think Milo is mystery. And I think the writers are saying like, we need to like cater to this man's sort of mystery. You know what I'm saying? And the public, so it's like, we love Jack.
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And I actually love, you still get to love Jack because you start off with love, but now you're like, oh, this is what I signed up for. Like I signed up for more than I actually knew that I was signing up for.
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Absolutely, absolutely. So like that, I think is a great springboard into three because we solve the sort of mystery of how Jack passes away, but they introduce new things as well. What's this whole Vietnam thing? What's the situation with this brother, right? Like what happened in the war with this brother? What's gonna happen in the future?
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So, and it goes back to that question that we said to Dan, is the drama in and of itself enough? And I think we as actors, that's the thing that we enjoy digging into, is just sort of like the character. But in terms of a narrative, like he gives you that and. And the and is the engine that really keeps people being like, what is going to happen?
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He reminds people to be curious and ask the questions.
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Yes, sir. Of every episode? Let's do it. Sounds good. All right. See you in a sec. All right, gang, it's time for one of our favorite parts of the podcast, our fan segment. And today we are talking couple origin stories.
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Let me do number one. This is email one. It says, hi, Chris Sterling and Mandy. My husband and I met at a party in college. Hashtag Hail Southern. I had seen him around campus a few times and honestly thought he was so cute. Oh, look at them right there. Got to see this on YouTube if you want to see these beautiful people.
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When I saw him at a party, he was eating celery off a wing platter, and I thought that was interesting. Since I had a little bit of liquid- No, but say it the way she wrote it. I said, that was interesting. That's interesting.
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Since I had a little bit of liquid courage in my system, I approached him and asked why he was eating celery off the wing platter and not the wings, since it was being a wing platter. He ended up telling me that he was a vegan. And we've been inseparable ever since. I guess that's how you do it. Just don't eat meat. That was in 2017. We got married in 2021.
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And we're currently expecting baby number three.
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Fun fact, This Is Us was a major part of the early days of our relationship. We used to watch new episodes the day after they aired when they made their way to Hulu. Watching the show weekly became a ritual for us, and it was such a special time. I've attached some of our early photos along with a few of our newer ones. We love the show, and we love you guys. That is from Naila Ferrara.
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She did not tell us her husband's name. Oh, it's Joshua up top.
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They do have their proposal picture. Look at her face.
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Lindsay, thank you. And Chris and I both are guilty of heteronormative.
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While the football game is going on in the background.
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Yeah. They're killing it. They look absolutely gorgeous, man. I love it. I love it. Look at that tuxedo. 71 married in 73. Yeah. I got to say, 10 years. Back then. It's a long time to wait.
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My goodness, Alyssa. Yeah. You got beautiful parents. I'm sorry for your father's passing, but what a beautiful story. And it seems like they had a beautiful marriage.
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Thank you for sharing. That warms my heart.
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As do I. Should we sign off here? If you guys have anything else that you would like to share with us via fan segment, you can always hit us up at thatwasuspod at gmail.com. And if you want to call and tell us a fun story about that, you can always call us at...
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There's been another episode of That Was Us. If you haven't subscribed by this point in time, I don't know what you're waiting for. Like, subscribe.
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We still got another four seasons of shows, and we'll have standalone shows as well and whatnot.
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And that's our show. I love you guys. We'll see you next time.
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Take care, y'all. That Was Us is filmed at Rabbit Grin Studios and produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. That was us.
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And he was totally smitten. Like the look on Milo's face checking out Mandy is like, that's it. He goes out to his buddy and he's like, I met the girl. He's like, oh, you met the girl. I met the girl, man.
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How much money you got? He's like, I got five bucks.
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That's why we're here. He's like, I got four bucks for my name. He's like, I got to show her the time of her life with nine bucks, right? Nine bucks. And the title of the episode, Nine Bucks, right? So he takes her to the carnival. That's right. No, wait, before they even go to the carnival, they have a little conversation, right? And you're so just like excited and vivacious and lively.
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And he's just listening. He's just like everything that you say, he's like, oh.
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Every single word, right? And it's so cute. She's like, well, we should probably go somewhere and do something. He's like, yeah, yeah, let's go do something. He goes to get the money. And then the thing, we find them at the carnival. The carnival cost how much to get into? Five bucks.
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I loved it. It was great. Thank you guys very much. We're about to start shooting season two. We've actually started shooting season two right now. So it's off to the races. And I think season two will be just as good as season one.
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Right? I got $4 left, right? Who loves candy apples and hot chocolate, baby? Rebecca has a real sweet tooth.
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Oh, God. So that's the thing, too. Let me say this, folks. If you commit to eating on camera, because sometimes people will be like, they didn't even take a bite. There's a reason for it. There's a reason there's a nibble.
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Crossing my fingers hoping for the best. What have you been up to? Yeah.
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At the time of the recording of these podcasts, it is Aries Nation going on. SKB is one step closer to a half century. 49 years.
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Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Mandy Moore will have her birthday in three days time. Is that correct?
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Let's play a game. Rebecca says, oh, good thing that a guy's selling umbrellas right over there. He's like, yeah, but it's not really raining that hard.
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You know, he's chilling. And so the next time we see them, they're like standing under a canopy, just like not having.
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Let's go. How do you feel? You're into the 40s now. I love it. You love it?
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Because Rebecca throws it out there. She's like, okay, let's just, real quick, I'm going to throw something out and we answer at the same time, right? Dogs or cats? Go. Dogs.
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He says pepperoni. You say mushrooms. And it's just like nobody. The vibe isn't there.
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Like tripping or like dropping things.
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Oh, I remember the Previa. I can see it. It's like kind of a weird snout.
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I'm going to hunt this car down.
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No. He's like, it's not for me.
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You're like, I'm not there anymore?
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You see Rachel on the ground with like kids crawling over.
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Of course. Mama's on a pedestal forever.
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The reception. Reception.
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On Randall's wrist. On Randall's wrist. Yeah.
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The infamous scene.
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Side note, do people ever recognize you in the car? Like, what, what?
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That's amazing.
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That's right.
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I am. I'm very uncomfortable. I'm officially renaming this episode The Bridge. Thank you for reading. I like it. Lindsay. Thank you, Lindsay.
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Correct. It's on their back.
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By the orchestra, Manchester. No, the cinematic orchestra. Which that song is on an album that's all instrumental music.
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With vocal.
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Bear listens to it every night in a sleepy time playlist. He has to hear it. Has to hear it.
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Thank you for listening to us today. This has been Dan Fogelman. I don't know. It depends. It depends on the situation. It depends on the situation. Manny, are you going back for the bell?
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Sterling?
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No, no, no. Sterling's not the one.
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You don't want another dog.
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We've been set dressing childhood photos all over the place.
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It was actually somebody on one of the Paramount tours that noticed that. They looked at the cards.
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I see you're missing something on the timeline there.
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The hero shot. Out of the smoke. Slow motion, you know what I'm saying?
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Listen, we're all parents here. As we know, bath time can be either a dream or a quote-unquote total disaster. But with dabble and dollop, it's always something kids actually look forward to.
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The whole set comes with like seven or eight different flavors and this little cup and this little spoon for being a little bit of a mad scientist mixing all your flavors together. And you mentioned strawberry colada, that's not just for kids, Sterling. I'm here to tell you. Okay. That soap works on adults too. I heard that, bro.
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As soon as I got my case, I immediately sent two cases out to two other families that I knew would love it. And now, listen guys, it's even easier to grab because Dabble and Dollop is available at Target. Woohoo! You can find their bath bomb variety packs and six of their bubble baths in-store and online at Target.com.
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That is a very interesting point that you make, Mandy, because the shelf-stable nature of this unkibble has been kind of a game-changer in our household. Over the pandemic, we switched to all different kinds of food, and we even had to buy a special freezer in our garage to house the large amounts of food that I was constantly defrosting and moving from the freezer in the garage up to the kitchen.
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Now... I've got a couple of sweet bags of Unkibble just sitting there in a drawer waiting to be freshly scooped right into their bowls. And I'll tell you what, my dogs, Harry and Sally, that's right. You heard me right. They love it. I love that.
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Super simple. Honestly, the Unkibble difference, it happened almost immediately. Switching dog foods, for those of you who don't know, is very difficult, but not with Unkibble. The dogs were already on it after like a few days and their digestion is better. Their energy is better. There's less itching going on with, I'm looking at you, Sally.
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Everything has just kind of like instantly turned around. It's really great.
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Yes. Isaac and Elizabeth told us that.
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We need to figure out who this person was and we need them on the podcast.
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This is one of the things we talk about, about our show being difficult for a lot of people, right? Dan Fogelman and the writers will take care of an audience in a way that is incredibly respectful. Even the foresight, the amount of planning. We know the story, we know where it's going, we're not stumbling around in the dark.
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We have all these steps, we have all these steps, we have all these steps, to the point even of like, okay, yeah, at the end of the last episode, we see the fire start. We're not gonna wait.
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until right halfway through to get back to it first thing smoke fire like here's your answer this is going to be hard but we're going to take care of you we'll walk you through it yeah then there is a bit of a head fake that must have had i remember rachel even being like she was starting to let go she was starting to release like yeah he dies in the fire right and then he doesn't die in
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I really wish you had done that. I would have done that. Sully would have dressed up for you. You would have dressed me up.
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Oh, God. She tells Miguel to suck it up. Suck it up. You suck it up. Okay.
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We could have sent him.
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I don't, yeah, it's like a magic trick.
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It's like a magic trick.
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That's the last time we'll mention it.
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Getting to the end, logistically speaking, was house fire... when it came up in the room, it was like, too easy. Like, we need to push this back one more step. You know what I mean? Like, man dies in house fire. No, no, no, that can't be it. Like, how do you push it down the road that... Yeah, I mean, the ironic part was... Delicately.
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I think it was this, this is the moment where I realized like, yeah, this is a family drama and there's these great romances in the show, but this was the moment where I was like, this is a show about this woman's life.
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Like, and the things that she has been through to try and keep this family together.
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And it's, and it's, it just, everything became clear in that moment.
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And she's there alone. She holds it alone. Like nobody else was there. Nobody else saw it happen. Nobody, you know what I mean?
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Go ahead.
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Listen, I talk too much on the show. You keep us on track because your mind can hold this information better than ours can.
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Sully and I are thinking about lunch.
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With the avocado. Definitely with the avocado.
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Such a tricky moment for John, too. People still haven't quite gotten to know who Miguel is, but they know where this is going. And so this moment where you're like, hey, no, no, no, is such a tricky moment emotionally for him and you.
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And there's something so comforting about the structure of this show, too, because you can show these moments, right, these shifts in the story when it becomes... when it becomes Rebecca's story. And you're like, oh, this is about her life, the things that have happened literally before and after the passing of her husband.
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And there's something comforting in the structure of it too, even being a part of the performance of it, where... In the storyline of Kate and Toby in this episode, it's a tape on a thing on a day for Toby. Because doesn't have a lot of context, still figuring out the story, but it also didn't happen to him. There's a little bit of a removal there.
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And it's just interesting for me watching it now to remember that even the biggest things, the biggest tragedies, the biggest traumas, the biggest, eventually just become part of my story. Right? And they don't mean the same thing to other people. And they don't have the same effect on other people, even if they've also experienced them. And it's just, it's oddly comforting to be reminded of that.
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You know what I mean? To watch in one episode of television, this insane tragedy, but to also watch people be okay in the future and to know that they're okay. And to know that they have children and families and whatever those things are. It's one of my favorite things about the structure of the way you put this show together.
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We can't do the rest of this podcast like this.
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Who tells you that? We don't think this is multiple people.
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It's Ryan.
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Listen, because we know she doesn't listen to this. I think, okay.
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I think it's just how do we get back to that? Wait, you shot that during the pilot? No, no, during 201.
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But this is how did we get to that point?
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Yeah, I'm now having flashbacks of you on those two weeks, like walking around base camp.
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Looking like war-torn.
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My house just burned down. My husband just died.
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He had no idea. I'd never met this person. This wasn't my home. I didn't know who he was, but I just remember walking back into the house and my husband looking at me like, who? Because he could hear me. Who was that?
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So when I think back to making this episode of television, I think of all those little moments of just like...
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And that guy shut the door and turned to the part. He's like, guys, you're not going to believe who was just here. You are not going to believe what just happened.
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He had no idea who I was.
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Right.
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Hey, I have an idea. What do you got? You should get an Airbnb. You think so? Hotels can be fine.
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But nothing beats having a full place to yourself, especially when traveling with a family.
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Like yours or a group. Now there's no fighting over who gets the last hotel key card or squeezing into one room with all your Bags everywhere. God. And don't get me started on those tiny hotel mini fridges. Don't stop.
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So if you've got an upcoming trip or you just want to make the most of your space you're not using, consider hosting on Airbnb. Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at Airbnb.com slash host.
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She knocks on the window of the car.
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Yes. I tell Miguel to leave.
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Like that moon necklace just pinging him in the head. It's sharp too.
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We have to give it to him.
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Sterling, we know how the necklace got there.
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We know what position they would have to be in.
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Sterling K. Brown.
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Mr. McGiggles.
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The VCR eats the tape that we were talking about earlier. And Toby, they take the whole machine into a repair shop to get the tape extracted and repaired, and yeah. That is the storyline for their day, which is Toby getting really his first kind of inside look into the story and why.
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Until they sow the seed for the next mystery.
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Listen, Jack loved all kinds of trees.
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Yeah, I don't know if you remember.
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But what you're saying is also such an interesting moment in the show too, because for us as actors, like that moment you talk about with Chrissy, I'm always crying. I don't think that was scripted. I think that was Chrissy talking about Chrissy and Kate. And this is kind of the point in the show where we all just like, There's no question about who we are.
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There's no question about where we've been. All these questions have been answered and everyone can fully inhabit these characters in a way that it just... The line is now blurred between Sterling and Randall.
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We talked about that with John and Glenn, too, like in the support that you gave us and the creative support that they gave us as directors. Like it just felt it just we had ownership over the lives of these characters in a way that that felt really special. Yeah.
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Yes. I just love it. Okay, all right. So Mr. McGiggles is just straight face. He's escaped.
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Guys, Mr. McGiggles is out.
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At the birthday party.
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And her head goes up, her eyebrows go up, and her voice, mm-mm.
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Because in this monologue, you talk about the future when you're talking to young Tess about, one day I'll pick you up and we'll go to lunch. That's right.
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Super Bowl.
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It's great. It happens again in 2.18, right? We did a lot of those flash forwards. Is it 218 or 214?
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Definitely happens in 218. It does happen in 218. And so it must have been in both episodes. Maybe.
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I watched the show, Dan.
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And it's even better because we have Dan with us today.
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Question one. I'm kidding. Dan asked me to do a voice, so I did a voice. All right, question one. Did the show unfold as the seasons went along or did he know how it would go from the beginning?
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In fact, we have one right here.
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Dear Dan.
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You got it. And not women going like, I got to watch this trailer again and again and again.
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I know that feeling.
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This was like the lens of people viewing the show that always fascinated me. They viewed the Pearsons as this perfect family. And it's the most imperfect on paper. If you wrote it all down, like complicated, imperfect, gathering of people, but the way it was filtered through people's mind as this ideal family is also true. Yes, your family is also ideal.
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Every family with all of their flaws is ideal if you view it through this lens.
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And his butt, and his butt.
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What do you know if you know? What kind of camp did you go to with clown garbage cans?
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There was 100% more clown conversation than I thought there would be. That's really funny though.
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Bye.
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I just said that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that one.
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The editing and the structure of the show is such a big part of the show, right? It's part of the musicality of the show. It's part of the reveal. It's part of the excitement. It's part of the mystery, all these things. And that is, I know that you have a big editorial team, but we have spoken in here quite a bit about the musical magic of your... Yeah, your fingerprints on every episode.
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Dan Fogelman's editing on this show. And like you're talking about in this specific episode, how you started, the delicate nature with which you introduce characters so that people who are watching the Super Bowl can also watch this show. How did you learn how to do that?
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Decisions and choices that were made.
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It's all paradise hats. Can we get paradise hats?
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Yeah. You also have such a love for music. Yeah. And your fingerprints are all over the music of this show. Yeah. The editing feels musical. Yeah. Like, the rhythms, the harmonies. I mean, it feels, it's in everything. Yeah.
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It's got to be a rough life for a judge. Having just Googled his IMDb, by the way, quick side note, the answer to your question is he's been on at least one episode of every television show you've ever seen. And I got 80 something. But he was on 40 episodes of Perfect Strangers.
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Flashback. This Is Us does this. A flash forward back?
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No, flashback forward.
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It was, again, yes, chef's kiss. It was perfect. Yeah, time will tell. Okay.
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All the holidays, we are always bouncing all over the place. My parents usually come to visit us for Christmas proper. And then usually the day after Christmas, we fly to see Rachel's family on the other side of the country. So there's a lot of moving parts. A lot. A lot of luggage, especially with two kiddos. A lot of stuff to keep track of. That's a lot.
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Mandy, what do you put your trackers on?
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We should get Tile trackers in all of his equipment that he tours with. Yeah. Guitar cases.
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Maybe have a lot of eggnog. You know what I mean? Like too much eggnog. You're like, that's too much nog. Family proof your family with Life 360's Tile Trackers. Visit Tile.com today and use code TWU. That's Tile.com, code TWU. Okay, my travel vision board for 2025 involves trips back to Chicago to see family and friends. It involves trips back to New York to see friends in plays.
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They have huge demands. They demand naps.
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And of course, trips to Toronto. I can't say enough about Toronto.
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So, hey, why not take your home and help make someone else's stay a little bit better this year by hosting on Airbnb? You're already getting your home clean and tidy for guests. Why not? Hey, listen, you take a few pictures, you set up a host account too, and be a part of Sterling K. Brown's 2025 travel.
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It's a great way to earn a little extra cash, and you're creating some special memories for Sterling, who is planning a trip as we speak.
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A mirror. Another man dealing with an adoptive situation.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it's nuts.
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Yep, I apologize.
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Yeah, yeah. Rach and I have done that before where it's like, I can tell it would not be healthy for her to get upset at a person. Like, she's trying to focus on, like, the solution. Yes. And I'm like, do you mind if I, for a second? And I'm like, this is, and I... And I go on a little rant to just kind of let the steam that someone's feeling out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Oh, I bet.
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Yes. That's the prison part of your personality. People are like, I don't want to be here. No. I definitely don't like this.
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And you need it so that people can tell the difference between this situation. You do. And that situation. Absolutely.
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But again, two people who are not wrong.
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Right. Absolutely. You know what I mean? Yeah.
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You do. You do indeed. And that's the balancing act of everything. It is.
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Is to hear and understand both perspectives.
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I heard on one of my other favorite podcasts, someone say, you know, if I were you, I'd be you. It's just like, there's a thousand things that have happened to this person to lead them to this perspective. And it doesn't necessarily mean like, you know what I mean? We've all landed.
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And even in that conversation at the jail, she says, you've landed where you are because of a lot of things that have happened in your life. And as have I. Yeah.
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That's that.
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He is getting sweatier. He is getting grayer. His bags under his eyes are getting bigger.
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Yeah, yeah. I was over there like, I guess looking for counsel or- Yes, correct.
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You know what I'm saying? It takes everything for him to remove himself from his self-centered, addictive, self-seeking thought process to show joy for them being pregnant, yeah.
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Well, this is the kind of first take on the grand gesture as a positive thing. Yeah. Where you really look back and go, was it? Yeah. Is that how you... So when you screw up, you just go... Buy jewelry? It's an old line of thinking.
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Antiquated way of thinking that's like, this solves things. Even when it comes to Toby and his grand gestures, it's like, all right, pump the brakes a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How about a sincere gesture? I'm not saying there's not sincerity in this, but better sincere than grand.
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Yeah, or he's asleep in the waiting room. He travels all the way and doesn't even tell her he's coming, which is also like, okay, thank you for the grand gesture. How about a little forethought? Heads up, yeah. How about a little consideration?
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Yeah, she went with a transport.
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That's right. That's right. So he does that. Yeah. I mean, he goes to, she doesn't come back to work. She ends up at home. Yeah. And he goes to her house and we find him at her door again.
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Don't do it. No, God, no.
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Right.
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Yeah. And Alexandra Breckenridge gives the most hurt expression, I think, in any episode of the series.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, a lesser show would have given her something to say.
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She just- She just shuts the door.
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I suggest you go back to sleep and try again. That's what she would say. Hey, why don't you take a nap and take another shot at it?
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Yeah, you know, Toby can just see Kate kind of excusing making excuses for moving things along. She's worried, but also the excuses come on Toby's side, too, because of his relationship with his mom, and now they're having a baby out of wedlock, and he has a mini panic attack about calling his mom. Yes, he does.
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Yes, agreed. And so Kate is saying, you know... Whose idea is it?
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She proposes going to the courthouse. Let's just go. I don't need a wedding. Right.
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They end up at the courthouse and it's a very similar feeling to ending up at the jail. I don't want to be here. Yeah.
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Sir, what's that in your backseat? That's the ashes of television character Jack Pearson from the hit television show, This Is Us. And you're having the conversation. Get out of the car, sir.
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Again, our writers do such a good job. The scene with the urn, there was the, have we already talked? We haven't done Kevin's episode yet. No, that's next. Coming up. There's all these monologues where people are just all by themselves. Even you. With the babies.
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But the writers made it real easy.
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Come on now. That's right. On a lesser show.
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That's right.
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No, I can't help but agree.
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Not me. I was at home going, finally. I got all these other actors out of the goddamn way. And I can shine!
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With Toby's grand gesture, which required five hoodies. I think the writers were just messing with me. They're like, you know, I know the suit's a little uncomfortable for him.
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What kind of gesture? Maybe we'll put him in like five or six hoodies. So funny.
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There's more. I know you know what this is when you see Will.
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Right? But there's seven more words in this sentence.
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Which is a big three series of episodes. A big three series. Kevin episode, a Kate episode, a Randall episode.
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Is that why this ended up in the show?
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They'd never seen before.
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Yeah, man.
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Yeah, we are going to stick to our formula and send you some commercial offerings. And after that, we're going to talk to... Debra Jo Rupp.
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I feel like Peloton can go hard. Yes. Or Peloton can go easy. Absolutely. Nice and smooth.
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And it's not just about workouts. With Peloton, you can find exactly what you need to get centered and motivated, whether visiting family, adjusting to a new city, or stepping into a new chapter of your life. It's like having your own wellness partner ready whenever you are.
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Because Peloton isn't just about the workout. It's about being there for you in every season, every era. Check out Peloton and see how it can fit your journey just like it could have fit ours. Find your push.
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Absolutely, Sterling. And that's why my wife, Rachel, has added Nutrafol to her daily routine. It's a small step that makes a big difference for her hair. She's been using it for months now and has noticed less shedding and thicker, stronger hair. It's been a big boost to her confidence.
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And then you see the camera and you're like moody and kind of the shadow, yeah.
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But Debra, the tricky part is he brought it every day. Subsequently. That was the kind of like, we get it.
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We get it. And then as he won more and more, he kind of ran out of hands to carry them. And he brought a person to carry them for him and follow him around.
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You're like, can I hold it? And he was like, no.
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You brought the drama in the, in the current episode that we were talking about and for anybody, for anybody watching, they, uh, they are well aware of your dramatic ability. Absolutely.
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This is one of the many things about the black experience that I, even in watching the show, never even... thought to think. Like, it's just something I would never, it never occurred to me, whether it was the skincare, the hair care, this lighting issue. And our show introduces those subjects so thoroughly throughout the story.
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And you're awesome.
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How's it going, everybody? Welcome to That Was Us, the five-star hotel of podcasts.
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And to provide Sterling with an opportunity to react in a way that earns him an Emmy.
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You burn out. It sounds like being a New Yorker. Like you live a life and you see a lot. And you start to like, listen, if I'm going to get from the Upper West Side down to the village, I'm going to have to put up a little bit of a shield. I cannot fight every battle along the way.
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Okay. That's a good look. No, I'm just saying it. All right. I remember.
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Right now, we can see you on Agatha all along, right? Yes.
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Thank you. Excuse me, sir. I shall have my time with Debra as well. Thank you.
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And where do we find you right now? Where in the world are you?
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My best friend lives in Great Barrington.
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That's fantastic.
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So instead of just reading one letter today, we have aggregated a collection of many letters. Aggregated a word you didn't think you were going to hear today. But now you've heard it. Now you've heard it. Cannot hear it. Let's go to the community display. Let's see what we got here. This is a bunch of quotes. A lot of quotes, listen.
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Yeah, gave me a second chance at what? At anything. At anything.
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Helped me process unresolved trauma. That's beautiful.
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Gave me the ability to explore my feelings, confront my past, and find hope for my future. I love all of that.
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Normalized that life is messy.
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Isn't that, that's all I want from art is to be reminded that I'm not alone. Literally, period. Sure.
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That's it. It means a lot. From a photograph, from a painting, from a TV show, from a song. Yeah. That's all I want.
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It's true. It's true. Help me see clearly. Goodness gracious.
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Didn't shy away from the tough conversations. That's right. We had the tough conversations, so you could have the tough conversations. I remember, I think I've told you this before, Aryan Moed, actor, he and his wife and their two daughters used to watch the show and used to, whatever the show was talking about, take the opportunity to jump in and talk about whatever the show was talking about.
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And it was like an easy way into those conversations.
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That's right.
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Or that it has to be tough.
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Did we say normalized that life is messy? Yeah.
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Normalized that life is messy. Yeah. People often wanted to say that the Pearsons were the perfect family. And I was like, what do you mean?
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What do you mean by perfect? Because you're not wrong. They are subjectively a perfect family, but there's messy things going on. There's tough things going on.
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Exactly, Mandy Moore.
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I want to be more like Jack Pearson. Well, what part? The alcoholic? Or the loving father? The one who told Mandy Moore to go Everson. The secret keeper? And when you take all of it, it turns out you probably are. Pretty close. Come on now. You have your flaws. You also have your really great qualities. Sure.
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The three Michelin star restaurant of podcasts.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
It's just people turning towards each other instead of away from each other over and over again. That's it, period. That's the show.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
And aggregated, making an amalgam of what this is. I hope you enjoyed your daily aggregation. Not aggravation, aggregation. Hey, y'all want to get aggregated? Why don't you send us an email at thatwasuspod at gmail.com.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
Yeah, you can call us.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
Yeah, leave us a message. Sing us a Mandy Moore cover.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
Sing us a Mandy Moore cover of another, sing us Umbrella. Oh, a cover of a cover. This is like Inception. We want to hear from you. That's it. Maybe we'll call you back.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
That's right.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
We talked about how incredible he is, how regal he is, how intimidating he is. We also talked about how sexy Debra Jo Rupp is.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
Ask more questions. You think you know what people are going through. You do not. Yes.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
Peloton.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
Yeah, for Michelin star restaurants. This is the Mercedes Benz of podcasts. We're doing all right for ourselves. This is the Mandy Moore of podcasts.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
The Sterling K. Brown of podcasts. Chris Sullivan of podcasts. Christopher Sullivan. I'm more like my favorite murder. Good.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
It is a great scene. It is a great story when nobody is wrong.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
Yeah.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
And if I can brag on our show a little bit, a lesser show, would have done that in person. A lesser show would have had the mother showing up in the judge's chambers to tell him a thing or two. A lesser show would have had the judge have a change of heart and be up on the stand And say like- And say, you were right, I was wrong.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
But the way it was handled as I was watching, I'm like, this is, first of all, the only way this works is this letter. And the only way it works when both people are right is that he does not judge one way or the other.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
He says, I recuse myself. There you go. Because I'm not, he said, I'm not gonna change- My mind. He said exactly that. What I think. Right. but he knows that she's not wrong and he's not wrong.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
And it was like, that is some deft television.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
And I wonder what the interaction is like. Not just I saw you, but like, I agreed with you. Or I wonder what the conversation or I wonder what his actual opinion of the opinion was. So do I. It's interesting.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
That sort of thing.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
His name is Sam Anderson. Sam Anderson.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
Another populated character from our TV past.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
Which is a comment on the legal system's mandatory minimums.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
That judges are placed.
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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp
Right, and if this is your third offense doing something, then I have to give you blank. And it's a big problem.
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Oh, gosh. Mandy Moore. Mandy Moore. Guys, please.
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The social impact that this particular storyline had on the conversation at large.
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
And this is the moment you were speaking about before.
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
Maybe if they were potentially going to be filming something.
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
What would one do in this situation? Sterling?
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
Yeah, this is where the road ends for us as a couple.
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Brother Bonding Gone Wrong | "Brothers" (S2E5) with special guest Caitlin Thompson
This is quite comfortable.
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Brother Bonding Gone Wrong | "Brothers" (S2E5) with special guest Caitlin Thompson
I don't want to get that comfortable.
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Brother Bonding Gone Wrong | "Brothers" (S2E5) with special guest Caitlin Thompson
Yeah, and doesn't really look like anybody, but he's got his head down enough with his glasses.
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Brother Bonding Gone Wrong | "Brothers" (S2E5) with special guest Caitlin Thompson
I thought you were going to say where you want to have sex with her. No.
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Brother Bonding Gone Wrong | "Brothers" (S2E5) with special guest Caitlin Thompson
Clear the table so you can do what you gotta do.
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Brother Bonding Gone Wrong | "Brothers" (S2E5) with special guest Caitlin Thompson
Oh, man.
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Brother Bonding Gone Wrong | "Brothers" (S2E5) with special guest Caitlin Thompson
I finally get to do it.
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Brother Bonding Gone Wrong | "Brothers" (S2E5) with special guest Caitlin Thompson
But also, can we talk about the fact that we saw where Toby works?
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Brother Bonding Gone Wrong | "Brothers" (S2E5) with special guest Caitlin Thompson
I was like, oh, this is generic enough, but gives us some specificity.
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Brother Bonding Gone Wrong | "Brothers" (S2E5) with special guest Caitlin Thompson
Okay.
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Brother Bonding Gone Wrong | "Brothers" (S2E5) with special guest Caitlin Thompson
Great.
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Brother Bonding Gone Wrong | "Brothers" (S2E5) with special guest Caitlin Thompson
I still love that your own husband wrote your storyline with, like, this handsome, like, one of the most, like, handsome, winning, talented people.
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Brother Bonding Gone Wrong | "Brothers" (S2E5) with special guest Caitlin Thompson
We also learned that maybe your own children believe you to be too much sometimes.
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Brother Bonding Gone Wrong | "Brothers" (S2E5) with special guest Caitlin Thompson
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