Chris Josephs
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The Startup Ideas Podcast
I built an AI startup in 65 minutes (using ChatGPT, Leonardo AI, Kling AI, ElevenLabs)
No, I didn't.
The Startup Ideas Podcast
I built an AI startup in 65 minutes (using ChatGPT, Leonardo AI, Kling AI, ElevenLabs)
Okay.
The Startup Ideas Podcast
I built an AI startup in 65 minutes (using ChatGPT, Leonardo AI, Kling AI, ElevenLabs)
Company. Is it Moonpig Wiki, maybe? Is it Wikipedia? I got Moonpig.
The Startup Ideas Podcast
I built an AI startup in 65 minutes (using ChatGPT, Leonardo AI, Kling AI, ElevenLabs)
Yeah?
The Startup Ideas Podcast
I built an AI startup in 65 minutes (using ChatGPT, Leonardo AI, Kling AI, ElevenLabs)
Yeah, the prompt above, Jose?
The Startup Ideas Podcast
I built an AI startup in 65 minutes (using ChatGPT, Leonardo AI, Kling AI, ElevenLabs)
Yeah, I love that.
The Startup Ideas Podcast
I built an AI startup in 65 minutes (using ChatGPT, Leonardo AI, Kling AI, ElevenLabs)
Wow, wow.
The Startup Ideas Podcast
I built an AI startup in 65 minutes (using ChatGPT, Leonardo AI, Kling AI, ElevenLabs)
OK. So let's see what it does here.
The Startup Ideas Podcast
I built an AI startup in 65 minutes (using ChatGPT, Leonardo AI, Kling AI, ElevenLabs)
Give it to ChatGPT and say, everything is perfect except the positioning and prominence of the text.
The Startup Ideas Podcast
I built an AI startup in 65 minutes (using ChatGPT, Leonardo AI, Kling AI, ElevenLabs)
Let's just give it oops. It should be a kiss card sticker.
The Startup Ideas Podcast
I built an AI startup in 65 minutes (using ChatGPT, Leonardo AI, Kling AI, ElevenLabs)
Crazy.
The Startup Ideas Podcast
I built an AI startup in 65 minutes (using ChatGPT, Leonardo AI, Kling AI, ElevenLabs)
Yeah, it would be great if it does it.
The Startup Ideas Podcast
I built an AI startup in 65 minutes (using ChatGPT, Leonardo AI, Kling AI, ElevenLabs)
But yeah, no, it's being crazy. Okay, no worries.
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I built an AI startup in 65 minutes (using ChatGPT, Leonardo AI, Kling AI, ElevenLabs)
Take care.
The Startup Ideas Podcast
Meet the man who growth hacked his app to 1M downloads
shirts that's another viral piece to it and when you kind of take a step back we've done two things with this whole thing one we've sponsored the ufc as a brand that's important that's creative that's smart but two we've maximized surface area for virality which helps offset the costs and creates content that we then can use on the pages that we've built to build the loyalty and to have people be like damn that company is cool i i like that company like
The Startup Ideas Podcast
Meet the man who growth hacked his app to 1M downloads
That was the goal of the UFC. It was not to drive downloads, not even really to build out brand awareness, but to put Autopilot on the map and differentiate us from our competitors to be like, that's a cool company that I like because they're swinging and they're doing fun stuff.
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Yep. A hundred percent, 1000%. And we, we aren't able to do that as much anymore because of, um, we're a registered investment advisor. And once you're an RAA as on the autopilot side, you got to be careful with payments and things of that nature. But if I weren't a registered investment advisor, that's exactly what I would do.
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Meet the man who growth hacked his app to 1M downloads
There's, there's a great YouTube video by the yes theory guys talking about the, the fake Justin Bieber with the burrito. What they did was, um, They pretty much spoofed the entire world into thinking that Justin Bieber eats a burrito sideways.
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But how they sparked it was they planted that piece of content on Reddit, and then they sort of kind of manipulated the algorithm to get that thing to go viral in the whole kind of world. It took it by storm.
The Startup Ideas Podcast
Meet the man who growth hacked his app to 1M downloads
With Autopilot, what we with the UFC stuff, honestly, a little bit of a failure on our end was we didn't do a good enough job planting these different pieces of content places to spark that original virality. We relied on our own social media channels, which worked. It did great for us.
The Startup Ideas Podcast
Meet the man who growth hacked his app to 1M downloads
But a learning on that was like there really is so much power in having someone else post about you and kind of having them be the validation for you that goes beyond just anything that comes from your own brand. Especially when people know you in the space because they know you got money. They know that you can pay and it just becomes a harder game to create organic virality around.
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I see myself more as like a social engineer and like what I mean by that is Social media is all built on algorithms and it's just one people one kind of side of the marketplace of the attention span and then the other side and On our side, it's like, how do we algorithmically and scientifically come up with a formula around our content that would work on kind of both sides?
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So a last part of the strategy that goes into the UFC thing is you build up all these cool viral ideas. You hope they go viral. But again, the idea of 5%, 10%, 15%, 20%, 30%. The last piece of it is how do you get free press? And free press is hard because you get pitched all the time. Fox News wants to write about you, but give them 10 grand. You know, it's expensive to do.
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The way that we've kind of done it that's worked well is everything kind of marries back to this idea of the investigative journalism, becoming an authority, being a content creator that people take you seriously, and then providing high quality content. So the New York Post has already covered the UFC sending a fake Pelosi. Maybe we'll get more. Maybe we won't.
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Meet the man who growth hacked his app to 1M downloads
But the way that we got that organically was we have a great relationship with a lot of the reporters that cover these spaces. Because for the past three years, I've built out an email list of anyone that has ever written or talked about politician stock trading. And they're in a beehive. I send them an email anytime something is interesting that comes out. You know, hey, Pelosi made this trade.
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Meet the man who growth hacked his app to 1M downloads
Here's all the information. If you want to write a story about it, go for it. Hey, this politician did this. Here's all the information. If you want to write a story, go for it. Hey, we sponsored the UFC. It kind of went viral. It was kind of dope. Here's all the information. If you want to write a story, go for it.
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Meet the man who growth hacked his app to 1M downloads
And that's, I think, like the importance part that people don't understand about being like, if you really want to be a good growth marketer, you got to have your hands everywhere. And I recommend to people build out a email list of reporters that cover your space and don't sell your product. Don't sell you. Just give them high quality content.
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Make them feel like they're always in the know with their space, because when they do want to write about it or if they do, they turn to you because they see you as an authority. They start quoting you. They start featuring you. And that's the last part that we're going to try and make work with the UFC as well.
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I mean, Twitter is a big thing. And also like the last, we're spoiled by this, but you know, this is just from years of hard work. It's, Once you have an account that is an authority, you can DM people and people answer. We've DMed with Vivek. We've DMed with Tulsi Gabbard. We invited Mark Cuban to the UFC fight. He was doing Shark Tank. We DM people all the time.
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Meet the man who growth hacked his app to 1M downloads
And a lot of the news reporters, they follow the accounts. We can send them a very quick DM. Hey, Chris, I'm behind this account. We have an email list that we update people with interesting and suspicious trades. If you'd be interested in kind of getting added to it, just let me know. And they all say yes. Why would they not? But yeah, there's no scraping. There's nothing like that.
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Meet the man who growth hacked his app to 1M downloads
It's just pure grinding of anytime you see an interesting article, find them on Twitter, DM them, get their email, add them to the list, and then you start sending emails out.
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Meet the man who growth hacked his app to 1M downloads
So as a social engineer, like the things that go into it, reverse engineering, viral ideas, reverse engineering, a tweet that is kind of written a certain way so that it gets 20,000 retweets as opposed to 15,000.
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Yep. A hundred percent. Yep. Yeah. We were featured in ABC. They came in, they flew us out. This is also another, this is so much the, the cool thing of what we've done with autopilot is people are fascinated with us. Cause it's just like, I'm, I put my face out there. Like I am behind the Pelosi tracker. I'm not afraid to, you know, will I die tomorrow?
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Like all that conspiracy stuff, but people respect and appreciate it. Then they realize like, Oh, it's just like a 28 year old guy that,
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yeah i'm not rich i don't have millions of dollars i don't have access to these things i'm building this for the community and kind of people get interested with that i put myself out there and then abc news they do a whole feature set they fly out they interview us we crush it they love us we love them we take that piece of content we put it on twitter or on tiktok goes viral on tiktok we take it on instagram put it on instagram and then barstool picks it up and it's like
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Meet the man who growth hacked his app to 1M downloads
just constantly getting content out that makes yourself an authority is, uh, important, um, for every angle of the, the growth side.
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Yeah, so the plan of what we're doing now is we have all this content. We haven't kind of shared the video yet, but we literally did send a fake Pelosi to the fight. She was sitting there in the front row with Mike Malak. There's all these pieces of content around her. New York Post already kind of took it up. They created an article about it.
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I'm going to be sharing a lot more content on our social media accounts around the Cybertruck. The UFC is about to put up a story of us that I think is going to be really interesting. And then looking back, if people are listening to this, go check it out because you'll see like.
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Meet the man who growth hacked his app to 1M downloads
The formula of what I've done, going back to the surface area part, and this may be helpful for, cause this is just scientifically how I think about all this stuff is.
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reverse engineering like if you're going to sponsor the UFC what's one thing to do you can kind of put autopilot on the on the banner or you can kind of really think through like how do we get this thing to get even more viral which I have a full-on kind of calculation I'll get into and um how do I add in the different variables for that one piece to go viral so as you kind of mentioned um
The Startup Ideas Podcast
Meet the man who growth hacked his app to 1M downloads
Sponsoring the UFC gives you a 10% chance of virality. One out of 10. Sponsoring the UFC and sending a fake Pelosi gives you a 15% chance. Sponsoring the UFC, sending a fake Pelosi, having a fake Cybertruck gives you a 20% chance.
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Meet the man who growth hacked his app to 1M downloads
And the more and more stuff that you can do to add to that chance of virality is the name of the game, I think, in like the growth team and the social engineers and kind of people in my space. So we're going to have more stuff coming. What's next, though, on the marketing side and on the growth side, it's... I mean... It's two things.
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One on the product kind of without getting into kind of boring everyone on autopilot. The cool thing, we're a marketplace now. So we're going to have people actually be launching their portfolios and we're going to be building content around those people. Like a Kathy Wood, for example, she can launch a portfolio on autopilot. She then can monetize it. We grow it for her. We're all happy.
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Meet the man who growth hacked his app to 1M downloads
Our end users are happy. But on the other marketing side, it's to double down on this kind of Pelosi idea. And this is a bet that I'm going to take. The same way that the Nelk Boys are famous for these skits, these pranks, Liquid Death, they're known for these kind of crazy commercials. Duolingo has their owls.
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There's a world where we create kind of consistency around this Pelosi 2024, invest like a politician. Why do we want to get her reelected so we can keep copying her stock trades? That, I think, is going to be the theme of the autopilot marketing for the rest of the year. And it's going to be building moments around that. There's something going on at Rumble in Florida that we might go to.
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There's another UFC event maybe we sponsor. And it's just taking learnings from those and doubling down on the consistency of it all in an effort to get just people to love the brand. I think people underestimate how much loving a brand matters, especially in this world, because no one really has any affinity to brands much, but people have affinity to people like the Greg Eisenberg podcast.
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I feel like you guys probably have a loyal, devout following of kind of your top five or 10% on autopilot. That's what we're working on. And that's what we're building on. And that is what comes next.
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We have the Pelosi Tracker Autopilot. It's the first app that allows you to automatically copy politician stock trades. That's kind of a viral idea in itself. I've personally built that Pelosi Tracker with the help of my team. It's not just me. But to around like 750,000. On Instagram, we have another account called the Politician Trade Tracker, which is around 750,000.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. This reminds me of, um, and a lot of my ideas will come from that. This, have you seen the page of the people that, uh, it's called like, I love this stick or something like that. They send in content of like cool sticks they find around on social media. Um, I don't know what the name is, but official sticker. Yeah. Yeah. Official sticker review. 2.2 million.
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Have you seen this account? So it's brilliant. What they do is they, And I think there's psychologically a couple of reasons behind this. What I would do is, so yeah, if you watch a video, it's just people sending in stick reviews because it's funny. People like them. There's a world where this becomes a plant one too, where you got a lot of, on your original page, actually, let me go back.
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The reason why this is important is on Instagram, growth comes from reels. So you need videos and you can make one video around kind of looking at the plant, this and that. But the reason why this stick page works so well is because you have the commentary of the person and people just like it. It's authentic. It's real. It's fun. So first step with the actual, yeah, like look at this guy.
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It's just brilliant. It's smart. Looking at the plant page, the first thing I would do is I would start trying to build out a strategy around this where I would go, I would personally film myself and just create commentary on like me talking to a plant the same way I would talk to a puppy or the same way I would talk to a kid. It'd be like. This is my plant blank.
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You know, I've been growing it for this long. Like, look at how pretty this one leaf is. It looks like a heart. Like, this is how I'm going to treat it. I'm going to do this, this and this. And I hope it doesn't die. You know, things like that. And eventually, if you kind of build out enough pieces of content around that, you create open for submission.
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And our app has around like 1.2 million downloads, $300 million invested, things of that nature. So... The story on the UFC was a lot of people know the idea of the Pelosi tracker, but not as many people know that autopilot is the company and the product that powers the Pelosi tracker. So say a hundred people know Pelosi, maybe 20% of them know that autopilot is the team behind it.
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And then you have everyone in your community start sending in videos of themselves reviewing the plants and being like, hey, this is my plant. I'm in kind of uh, Augusta, Maine, I've been growing this thing and kind of, this is for the community, the same exact way that stick one works.
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And I think it's important because one, you get original content to, you get content from people that, uh, are enthusiastic and like your community and kind of can relate to other people. And three, probably the most important part is if you've noticed on, uh, Instagram, the most viral stuff is funny. And that's like, like even like, look at this right here.
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I don't even know what, what is that one with 130,000? Uh, uh, when one of your plans dies, when one of your plans dies, funny, it's funny.
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Yeah, it's brilliant. The most viral stuff on social media is funny. And that's, I think, like the stick thing, 2.2 million views. That's just people reviewing sticks. Why is that? It's just funny. So creating the content strategy around, especially your meme pages, that is built just to be funny and kind of make people laugh is the last way that I would do it.
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And then I would introduce the product that you were mentioning. Create an AI plug-in. Yeah. Take a photo of the plant, AI identifier, charge $10 a month, $50 a year. Have it in the LinkedIn bio, use it in some of the videos, and then start making money.
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Because meme pages, again, the hard part about the meme stuff is a lot of the original ones, they don't have a product around them because they built an audience just purely around content and memes. The meme pages these days now can be translated into a product similar to the Pelosi tracker that can make people a lot of money if they do it right. And also provide value.
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I'm sure people will like this idea of identifying plants. But that stick one is good, right? It's so random.
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Yeah, exactly. Is this guy reviewing a stick? And it's hard to remember that. Like even with my content, the, we have 700,000 followers and the ups and downs of the, of the algo is crazy. And it's like, you can get into this path of, um, or this, this trap of just posting is purely funny meme, 10 to 15 second pieces of content.
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But the problem is, again, going back to my original point, that may get you 500,000 views, but like your informative, legit one that you put in in time for authority gets 50,000 views. You still have to do both. And even with the plant one, that is, I think, like the key to monetizing your audience the best via products is you can't just go full meme.
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You got to go authority or else people will just scroll right by you and not take you seriously, which is also, by the way, Greg, like why a lot of these influencers, these earlier ones don't make money that much either. Like, I don't know if you've ever eight or 9 million followers and they put a link in, in a story and no one clicks it.
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Meanwhile, the people with the a hundred thousand followers put a link in their story and they get 10,000 clicks. I think it's like the time you launched them is under a different era and, uh, people have manufactured their pages to work in those areas.
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I have no idea what. Well, so I don't know what type of events even go on with it, but. I don't even know if you would have to sponsor it to that degree because you're not kind of necessarily building it out. What I would do is I would go to the actual events and do street interview conversations using the app. I think about it. There's a lot of money to be made in these apps.
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It's kind of plant one. Uh, but I, I would, uh, I wouldn't necessarily like you could sponsor it. Yeah, for sure. But, um, and kind of use that, like the, the interesting thing about what we did with the UFC was the UFC sponsor was important. People have kind of said to me, it's like, why'd you need the UFC sponsor? Why couldn't you've gone viral with the Pelosi tracker?
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How can we kind of start creating that, narrowing that gap and getting more and more people to understand that autopilot is associated with the Pelosi tracker because the Pelosi tracker has such goodwill. The UFC, probably three weeks before their big sphere event reached out to us and was like, hey, we're big fans.
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And the, cause you need some sort of authority in the entire ecosystem of the content strategy. So if we didn't sponsor the UFC, we would have just been like, Oh, you guys sent a fake Pelosi. That's, lowers the chances of virality. Uh, if there was a plant exposium, um, I would sponsor it and then would go with a t-shirt and I would start using the apps. I would be interviewing people.
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I would be having fun, creative content. How many plants have you killed in your life? You know, things like that. Uh, that's the approach that I would do. And honestly, you could probably do it across a lot of things, birdwatching apps, um,
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animal lab like i don't know what other niches there are there's just so many uh that's what i would do and i bet you could probably make a couple million pretty easily honestly so when it comes to sponsorship of events the best sponsorships are kind of the ones that you're like why are they sponsoring it
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It's so funny. Yeah.
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Meet the man who growth hacked his app to 1M downloads
A hundred percent. And that's like such a, that's a good, uh, that's a good thought with autopilot. I wonder what we can do with, um, like the stuff that we have coming. Cause I don't know how expensive it is to kind of do that. And then the strategy that I would run with that as a plant company is I would run that, get a banner, take the photo of it, then go to a big underestimated piece.
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I think of Twitter and Instagram is people have built livings off of being social media news people. There's this major guy. He's a British dude. He's got bright blue eyes, handsome guy on TikTok. I think that's why he crushes it. He's a British dude. And I don't know if you've seen him on TikTok. All he does is just talk about the news. He's like 24 and he got 11 million followers.
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And he just talks about interesting stories on Instagram or on Twitter. There's people like Colin Rugg. There's the Mario Narfawal. And they just they're looking for good content. They're looking for creative stuff. And if you can kind of even go, then you sponsor it. Don't kill plant. Don't kill people kind of thing at the NRA event as a plant company. You then take those.
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We'd love to market with you guys or we'd love you guys to come and sponsor kind of some of the upcoming fights. And we kind of thought at the beginning, like we don't do any sponsorships. We've never swung big. We've never done anything like that. Maybe now is the time because the UFC is great. Dana White, Joe Rogan's there. Trump goes a lot.
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Meet the man who growth hacked his app to 1M downloads
And then we talk about what we said earlier. You plant it. plant, you feed that piece of content to these news people and say like, hey, we did this thing. We think it's pretty funny. If you're interested to cover it, let me know and we can hop on a call. And maybe you get the organic kind of posts on that nature.
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And that's again what I think we didn't do that well because we are in RAA now and you run into a lot of legal issues with that. But That's a great idea with the plan thing. And honestly, whoever's running that stick page, they should launch a Pokemon Go catch-em-all stick app.
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They have so many users. It'd just be funny. Charge $10 a month and see what happens. Totally.
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You want to hear my other idea?
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So this has been my hot take. This is nothing to do with autopilot. This is in the beauty brand era industry because I think there's just so much money in that because there's so many influencers. And I'd be curious to hear your take on this. But I'm kind of bullish on it for two reasons. The idea is guys ages 15, I want to say 14 to 25, They watch live streaming of people playing video games.
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Why? Because it's cool. It's fun. Video game stuff. They watch Logan Paul. There isn't really a world where that has translated over to the female world. And I think like what girls kind of 17, 15 have had to – end up with is get ready with me videos. You know, one minute, get ready with me. Vlogging, Alex Earl, Emma Chamberlain.
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And now kind of, if you've seen on Instagram, there's trends around like girls just kind of get dressed with me. Let me share my fit with you. I think the next thing is the same way that 15 year old kid boys watch other boys play video games. I think there's going to be a world where girls should launch their own live stream online shopping channels.
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where it's them just going on 10 to 15 seconds, maybe a minute, maybe two minutes, and they're just filming themselves online shopping. It's like, all right, I'm going to wake up. What do I want today? I want a t-shirt. Let me go to my favorite pages. Ooh, I think this one will look good. I don't know about this one. Chat, what do you think about kind of this one?
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And they build a whole shopping experience around you just online shopping. I think that is a world where that can turn into the same monetization efforts as boys watching video games of other guys, girls watching other girls' online shop. And I don't think anyone's tried that. And I see it as the next evolution of getting ready with the makeup, putting your outfits on, fit checks, to then...
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invest like a politician, the majority of their fans are libertarians, like that would kind of work well. And we said, like, look, like, let's, let's kind of think it through. And let's go from there. It's a long, long story. But the way that we approached the the actual advertising of it was we haven't really gone to public with this stuff yet, I'm going to kind of work on making this viral.
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this is like what I'm shopping for online shopping experience. And I think girls would eat it up. That's my, that's my pitch to content creators out there. Go film yourself online shopping and see what happens.
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I see this as a billion. Because like, you know, like the whole Neil Patel went on a podcast. And I know that Gary V, they've been talking about this idea of like, online shopping, like live shopping is going to come to America. It crushes it in Asia, but it hasn't translated to America.
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And I don't know if online, like live shopping in a third party, me sitting there on my phone, watching you sell me something will work as well as you just watching me shop, you know? Cause like, I know this through all the girls that I know out in LA and LA it's run with this stuff. They're all posting videos of themselves kind of fit checks on Instagram, on TikTok.
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Every comment is literally, where'd you get that shirt? Where'd you get those shoes? Where'd you get those pants? Why don't the girls just film themselves shopping and be like, this is literally where I got it. The cool thing about it is it's such low-hanging fruit. It follows the, what's her name? Strawberry milk bob. Like, her idea, she sells the bikinis. She just hops on. She's like, oh.
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She just talks. And, like, half of the videos, there's no ending to it. It's just nothing. It's just funny. Like, I can see a world where, like, girls... A lot of people don't know.
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And she's now built out of reality TV because her sister is Coconut Milk Mob or something. And then she had this boyfriend who they called him Brad. And then Brad launched a golf club. a like, merch company, and then she then launched a female golf merch company. They're just hustlers. I respect them are but like, I think your point on that is so they don't sell. They just, they just live.
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So probably after this comes out, you'll see these things on social media. But we realized like, as a small startup, and this goes to the formula idea, Sponsoring autopilot or sponsoring the UFC is one thing that is cool. That'll get brand recognition. But how do we kind of take that to another level?
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And I think girls love that about other girls with their content. I think the next step of that though, is like, people would die to see her scrolling through her phone shopping for herself. I think they would watch 30 minutes of that. So whether that becomes a full-on product, I'm sure it could.
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What other ideas have there been? I, I've listened to a couple, like some of them are kind of easier ones for like one off apps and other ones are like, like, I think this one is like a venture scalable business. The, the online shopping for girls.
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The way we thought we could take it to another level was create like the most riveting and kind of emotionally driven and funny pieces of content as possible around the actual ad. So that was step one. What did that mean? Invest like a politician in red, white and blue directly on the back of the octagon.
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you know, I love my job. I love the startup. You know, we're crushing it with auto or we're trying to crush it. We got a long way to go with autopilot, but, um, we're in it for the long haul. I get envious a little bit of these people at Google, these people at meta, it's like, you guys can be launching these one-off things like constantly, like why you should be.
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And I think like an example like that, especially now, if like that guy can do it, he can learn how to code it. And there's clearly product market fit with it because like, why not? Why not do it? Um, More and more people should be launching stuff like that. It's cool that he actually followed through with it, though. It sounds like do not pay. Exactly. Yeah, it's similar. It's funny.
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So I don't know. You've been to our office in L.A., but for those that don't know, we have a little startup kind of hub. all number one apps, all kind of like we're all growth hackers at heart, but we all are venture-backed startup guys. And there's been now multiple apps that have come in three weeks, prototyped, built it out solely to work.
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And I don't think I can share the exact ones because they don't want people to know, but they built apps that literally work for TikTok and Instagram algorithms, where it translates perfectly to the algorithm to work, and then everyone comments what app is that, they then get downloads. Multiple apps have made 60, 70, a hundred K, uh, months similar to, uh, what's his name?
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Uh, the guy that built the Cal AI app, like, like people should be launching apps like that constantly. And Cal AI is an app that you can scan your food, plugs into chat. GPT tells you roughly how many calories are in each serving. Um, there's a world where you can build that for everything. And, um, More people should because I think that also provides value. That's what's kind of cool about it.
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People will, AI has changed the game because it's not just flappy bird video games. It's like this thing can actually make your life easier. So it's good that we're moving in that direction. It's cool that you're bringing people on and just jamming on ideas. I wonder if anyone will run with the shop in one.
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Figure out a way to get it placed so that it's on the noon timeline or the noon vantage point so that anytime they're talking, you know, we're right there. Another part of that is create the funniest ad read as possible for Bruce Buffer. When he did it, he came up like and now autopilot.
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Yeah, so we're big on Twitter. Twitter is kind of our main spot, and then we're kind of also on Instagram. My personal Twitter where I try and tweet more, but I use my social battery so much on these other accounts that I don't have enough time and mental energy to tweet on my own. My personal Twitter, though, is ChrisJJosephs.
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On the Autopilot account, we're going to start putting more and more fun content out. You'll see if you go there, you'll see I'm starting strategies around like
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nearly monday kind of every monday i'm gonna post like it's monday go get that money kind of because we're a money app and you guys can follow the journey of seeing if that will work i don't know if it will that uh is called join autopilot and then the big accounts that we run the pelosi tracker the michael burry tracker those are if you search those it'll show up i'm gonna try this new account i don't know if it'll work this stop to spend um that was inspired also by the all-in podcast and people listen there jason was like someone should do it i'm like
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I'll try. Why not? And then we're also going to launch the GPT portfolio again, if you remember that one, where a year ago we thought it'd be funny to give ChatGPT 50 grand, build an algorithm and have it not even build an algorithm, just have it tell us what socks to buy. That account will be coming back maybe soon. OpenAI sent us a cease and desist. So we have to close that one down.
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But that one should be back soon, too. And that's all on Twitter.
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If you ever wanted to copy a politician's stock trades, well, now you can go to joinautopoly.com and invest like a politician today. Like writing that pieces of content so that it goes viral and it can be clipped is another piece of it. And then I'm rambling here. But then the last piece of it is how do you create viral moments aside from the actual sponsoring of the fight?
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Normal brands, they would just sponsor it. Their marketing team would be like, that's it. It is what it is. We'll hope it goes viral. We'll hope it kind of blows up. Us on our creative kind of social engineering team, we're like, that's not enough. We need more and more chances, more and more moments to create virality.
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And that's where we came up with the idea of wouldn't it be funny to send a fake Nancy Pelosi to the fight, put her front row, have a whole vlog style, be with her. Wouldn't it be funny to get, create this whole slogan of Pelosi 2024, invest like a politician, slap it on a cyber truck and start driving it around. And then can we kind of create virality from that?
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I have learnings and kind of what went right and what went wrong with that, which we can kind of dive into. But that was the general approach with the UFC. It was create the most viral campaign possible for the actual event and then create viral moments that could kind of support the actual event to increase chances of virality.
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Yeah. Yeah. I'll try and kind of unveil the curtain and I've been on your podcast before, and I think the theme of that one we did a while back was, we call it trend hacking. The analogy I like there was, you have a river of conversations going on on social media, and there's different boats that go along that river. As a brand, if you can throw a life jacket or a
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Yeah. Yeah. And I think it's possible in every space. It's happening in the seed oil space. There's an app out there now that is kind of capturing the seed oil things. Joe Rogan retweeted it the other day. It's happening in kind of the hedge fund space with our Burry Tracker, the Pelosi Tracker. And I think it can kind of get more and more. The way that we approach that is...
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It's controversial, but you got to have a little bit of a controversial take to it. The attention spans of people are so short that you need to be able to have your product and have your niche and have your meme page adapt to the different news cycles as they come. Wall Street Bets is a good example that does as well. They were financed, but now they got politics. They got inverse Kramers.
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They got this and that. And they can use any piece of content kind of narrowed down to their thing.
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With autopilot in the Pelosi tracker, we started off specifically with Pelosi's trades and then moved over into politicians' trades and then got into hedge fund stuff and then kind of were able to use the trend hacking method that I spoke about earlier, and I can get into now here too, but that's kind of how we did do it. If I were to start one from scratch,
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what I would do is I would kind of probably take three approaches. And this is specifically to Twitter. Instagram is honestly even easier in my opinion. I think Twitter is harder, but step one is I would create an actual account of a, the name that someone would follow like Pelosi tracker. It makes sense. We have other ones that are going to be coming soon.
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It's going to be called like Stop the Spend. Stop the Spend is perfect. Like what are we going to do? Are we going to talk about that? We're going to talk about how the government spends so much freaking money. Oh, if I'm seeing content like that, I'm going to follow an account called Stop the Spend because I want them to stop the spend. Michael Burry Tracker, that's another example.
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So any piece of content or any account that is in your niche or in your space that you want to build a meme page account. Don't be afraid to name it as like something as simple as that. No one follows brands, everyone follows movements, everyone follows like people. So that's kind of the first approach. The second approach would then to do the reply guy stuff.
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You know, if Elon's tweeting, come up with a good comment, typical stuff that everyone on Twitter does. And the third part, though, is you really got to dive deep and become like an investigative journalist with some of your content. If you're going to take that approach, you can do the meme stuff.
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But the investigative journalist and like this is the really, really important part that I think a lot of people don't understand is. This stuff builds your account credibility. This stuff builds your virality. So the meme builds virality. Investigative journalist builds credibility and marrying them together. And then you have an account that's an authority.
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And if you're not an authority in the space, you're kind of just mixed in with all the other accounts. But if you are that one authority, like the Michael Burry tracker, that is followed by hedge fund people because we have built out enough authority in people's minds to be like, that is an account that follows the hedge funds and I can trust that account.
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That's how we kind of would do it from how we've done it in the past. And that's how I'm going to be working on a whole workshop. And it's good. I'm saying this is kind of accountability. It's like I'm going to make a new account called Stop the Spend. And I'm going to try and run this playbook to build an account that highlights the ridiculousness of the government spending and things like that.
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That's how I would do it, though. And then I would take that account, those pieces of content, and I would translate those over to Instagram. You could take a post, put it as an actual reel. Instagram is pushing reels these days. You then could take those posts and put them on TikTok. TikTok is pushing carousels.
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But as long as it's controversial and as long as it is informative or funny, that's how you kind of grow the things to the scale that you would want.
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Yeah. I mean, and. I do them probably once or twice a week. But earlier on in the early Pelosi days, and these aren't built for virality again. They're not built to, like the investigative journalist piece aren't built to, and they're not supposed to get millions of views.
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But if you remember back in 2022, when everyone was talking about the political stock trading, we kind of did have two different approaches to this. Like we had the Pelosi tracker. It was around 30,000 followers. It's like, do we go to the meme accounts? Do we kind of just create funny Pelosi talking on the phone? Hey, I want $100 million of this. Like that will go viral and things of that.
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But the investigative journalist piece is like if you take a piece of content and say Pelosi bought NVIDIA. One tweet, the meme-y one, Pelosi bought NVIDIA. Can't believe it's inside of trading. That's such corruption. I can't believe she's allowed to do this. That's kind of the viral meme page. The investigative journalist example, though, is Pelosi bought NVIDIA.
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Interestingly, six months before that, they passed the CHIPS Act, which they were allowed to have $40 billion of investments. That $40 billion of investments trickles down to U.S.-based companies, which is around $13 billion of it. X amount of that could go to NVIDIA. This may be why she's buying follow for more to come.
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And that's the sort of investigative journalist that then turns into an Instagram reel. It turns into a TikTok and it builds accountability and trust because no one else is doing it to that degree. Everyone is doing the fun meme thing. page stuff that gets tens of thousands of likes.
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And that's honestly why a lot of the meme pages don't like on a product guide, like their product is selling advertisements. Whereas with us, it's like we have a full on product built behind this that makes millions of dollars because we have put the time and effort in to make sure that it provides value.
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Yeah. So the next step is once you have attention and affinity and authority, you then can start becoming like adding in creativity. If you think about New York Times, you think about like they don't have that creative angle, that vibe that go do cool content just for the sake of it. And people then build loyalty to your brand. That's the next stage of it.
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So we were able to with the Pelosi tracker kind of build loyalty. Authority, affinity, attention, but there's no major loyalty. There's no one taking a step back and being like, damn, that company's cool. Liquid Death has that, though. Red Bull has that. Apple has that. Nike has that. Because they do cool stuff, and then they marry it back to their own page.
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the UFC reached out like a perfect kind of two-way example going back to the original thing is like we wanted to sponsor with them because um it adds virality trust you know this and that but the two approaches is we could have just gone the approach of like we'll just sponsor with you guys you guys will build trust for our community and we'll tell the community that we sponsored the UFC everyone would be like oh that's cool you know cool they sponsored the UFC that's great they have a cool product
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But when you do the loyalty stuff where you kind of get into the creative angle, this is the first time we've ever done this. It's do something so cool that people will take a double take and go tell their friend about. So when we did the UFC approach, when we were kind of doing the whole strategy around it, it's let's create that cool invest like a politician thing, put it on the noon agenda.
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Any sort of thing to hook onto that boat and let that trend take it with you your brand you can kind of get growth with that I think with this one. It's a little bit more of um like This idea of and this will kind of set the conversation. Well is I don't see myself as a marketer I don't see myself even as a growth guy.
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camera angle and see what happens. That may make us go viral. Let's take a fake Pelosi, send her to Red Rocks in Vegas, have Mike Malak, have the Nelk boys gamble with her because there's going to be content there. That's another viral piece.
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Let's take a cyber truck and put Pelosi 2024, invest like a politician under and have a driver all around Vegas getting flipped off, giving away TV shirt, giving away
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
How did she do on those leaps with Tesla? So she was up around 50% and then she sold a little bit and then it came back down and then she actually just sold those shares because the way that a leap works is if you're buying a contract and that gives you the ability to buy 100 shares of that underlying stock. It's pretty complex-ish.
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I'm going to try and take it up to another level. I'll go travel around, move to Bali. I was working out there for probably like six or seven months. Moved back to Boston, which is where I'm from. Then went up to New Hampshire, became a snowboard instructor. Was working on the ski slopes. There's a whole story behind it. I was working on the ski slopes. As a snowboard instructor.
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So when she bought the Leaps a year later, she exercises the right to buy those shares. So now she has, I think it was around like 5,000 shares of Tesla. And she's held those all up until July of 2024, this year actually. And She sold them too early. She sold them before Trump got reelected and the thing started flying. But I think she was up around 40 to 50% in total from that Tesla trade.
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Her best ones are Nvidia. Nvidia is a whole nother story for her. But on that Tesla one in particular, I think it was like 40 to 50.
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So Nvidia is the second trade that got the masses attention. For people to know, tell us what Nvidia is. Nvidia is a semiconductor. They're essentially the most popular stock and the best company. I think they're worth more than Apple now. They're the most valuable company in the world. They sell the chips for semis. And they have a whole broader thing beyond just that.
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But essentially, they're a semiconductor company. They buy and sell chips.
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so in 2022 that's when the chips act if you remember this 54 billion dollar chips bill that biden and pelosi pushed she bought and this is where social media again why it's powerful and the pressure started building up to her at this point because people were following the trades the markets were crashing it she was crushing it in 2021.
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um when 2022 came around the chips act comes out 54 billion dollars of infrastructure for chips and subsidies for them she bought nvidia i think a couple months before that oh come on yeah yeah it's this the problem with her is every trade is suspicious there's never a trade that you just are like okay you know i could not and i'll get into them without uh there's a couple more i can get to but with that nvidia trade in particular she bought it
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Where in New Hampshire? Bretton Woods. Great, great mountain. Very family friendly. And this is my phone. We're all up there. And then when COVID hit, moved back in with my family. And then that's how I connected with my co-founders, Brian, Aaron, and Scott. They're out in LA. And there's a whole story on how I essentially connected with them, which we can get into. But...
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
The Chips Act comes out. We start making TikToks. We start tweeting about it. And then everyone's like, what the fuck? What's going on with that? She then sells it for a loss because the stock was already coming down. This was when the market started falling.
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And she ended up selling it for a $300,000 loss. She sold it all. Because I think the public was starting to be like, what the fuck? Like, How are you doing this when we're already calling you out and you're still continuing to do it? She sold those things for a 300K loss and then she sold her shares for a 200K loss. So she lost money on that first NVIDIA time.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
But the interesting thing about that is per these filings and the way that the filings work is the Stock Act requires politicians to disclose them, their spouses and their dependents of any trade up to 45 days. on that trade in particular is the only time she's ever publicly said her profit and loss.
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So never before, never since then, only in that filing was when she said, hey, everyone, I lost 250K in Nvidia, get off my back kind of thing. She's never done that for when she's profited. She's only done it when she's lost.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
interesting yeah there's so many things with her she the filings she sends out are always before um holidays so she's notorious in our community for releasing reports around uh thanksgiving july 4th christmas and i think the argument is because like if you put it on december 23rd everyone's going off to vacation of course
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
yeah it gets lost yeah gets lost in the media drop bad news on Fridays that's exactly yeah this year she dropped it on July 4th um that was when she dropped all of these previous happy birthday America I know yeah but um so that Nvidia trade goes on she loses money the whole market was doing bad in in that year so she didn't do too well in that uh that I think it was 2022 um
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
2023 comes around the market starts going up again and we have all this information which i could probably get to but she then re-buys into nvidia at the end of 2022 um or at the end of 2023 excuse me in november she goes and buys five million dollars worth of leaps again Those leaps, then right after she buys, there's no laws or anything that comes up after that.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
It just turns out to be a tremendously well-timed trade because from there, NVIDIA goes up 160, 170%. And on that trade in particular, she then bought a little bit more. That 5 million, and the ranges are hard because the way that these filings work is they have to file from 1K to 15K is one little check. 15K to 50K, 50K to 100K, 100K to 250K, 250K to 500K, 500K up.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
we started building an app together. And long story short, I'm sure we'll get into the majority of this stuff. We essentially built out on a tech side, the first way to follow your friend's stock portfolios. So if you had a Robinhood and I had a Webull or a Fidelity, we would connect it to our app and you can get push notifications of when a trade would happen.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
So we're going off of the ranges. So you don't know the exact amount that she's buying. Exactly. But that Nvidia trade is the best trade she's ever made that we followed in recent memory. And she's up around like 140% on that trade in particular. And this is millions. It's not like it's 50K. It's up to $5 million. That $5 million could be worth $7.5 million now. And she's just quiet about it.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Doesn't say anything when we call her out. How long have you been doing this? We've been doing it since 2022. So we've tracked her in particular. And let me be clear, it's not just her.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
I've got a bunch of questions for you. Yeah, Crenshaw. But yeah, we've been tracking her since 2021.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And again, like the crazy thing about this stuff is – We took this whole thing a step further by building our app, Autopilot. And Autopilot, the way that it works is you literally can go and invest alongside these politicians. So it's one thing to be like, oh, fuck you, Pelosi, you're trading in front of us. And then it's like, oh, wait a second, you're crushing it. Like, whoa.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And now it's like, now I can invest alongside them. Cause so I can get in on the action. And I think like allowing people to get their money in, uh, makes the whole thing kind of just more hypocritical and funnier. So Pelosi, since we've been tracking her is up 87%. That's from, I think around, uh, May of 2021 outperforming the spy by 50%.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
In that time period since we've been doing this thing, we now have $300 million literally investing alongside her. People have profited $30 million trading, doing whatever she does in that time period, give or take. And her office has never reached out. She's been questioned in the press conferences being like, do you think you and members of Congress should be allowed to trade stock?
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And she's like... Yeah, well, it's a free economy. Like if it's a free market, we as citizens should be able to trade.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
I was the co-founder of it and I was in charge of the growth. And one obvious way to do it, this was during the GameStop era, was let me build a Nancy Pelosi portfolio. I'm seeing on Twitter, I'm seeing on TikTok, I'm seeing on Instagram, politicians crushing it and them getting called out for their trades, especially during COVID. I never will forget it. Yeah, you covered it, the Richard Burr.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
So last year in particular, and this is probably – and let me be clear. So we're not tracking – since it's hard to know the exact amount and it's hard to track her actual trades. So what we track is the filings of it. And they're roughly the same because they don't get displayed or – filed too long after. So in 2024, for example, she was up 54%. The market was up around, I think like 26 or 27.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
So she personally outperformed the stock market, the broader S&P by 20%, 25%. We also have these other trackers that track the hedge funds. And there was a report from Bloomberg where she actually outperformed, I think like 95% of professional hedge fund managers. And when you take a step, it's like, what is good?
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
The politicians, Unusual Wales has a report in 2024, and she was only the seventh best trader. There were traders that were better than her.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
It's that or books. Exactly. It's a book and honestly, Netflix specials now. Yeah, the Clintons with all that stuff. But she, again, is extreme because you just trade so much. The other politicians, they're trading on lower levels. But I think the bigger thing that we're trying to do with all this stuff is we don't want them trading. Again, we think that it's messed up.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
It creates distrust in the politicians. Of course. It's not like we don't... Me personally, it's not like I am... You know, saying, hey, you guys can't do that because you're getting rich. Like, obviously, that's a piece of it. But it's more of like, hey, you guys can't do that because the average American can't do that. And we're all just looking at you guys.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah, and you know the saying, show me the incentive, I'll show you the reward. That's exactly right. The war ones are crazy too. There's so much that you can get into.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Who are the 2024? So the other ones off the top and this is all unusual on unusual wells is Twitter. We work with them. He actually took some of the portfolios and he put them on our app. So now people can go in and they can trade alongside not just Pelosi, but other ones, too. Yeah. David Rouser was the top one. And I think he made a lot of money in NVIDIA. He also owns some other smaller ETFs.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
So he doesn't trade that much. So these are stocks that he's owned for a while. Yeah. Debbie Wasserman Schultz. She's now a two-time top five political stock trader.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah. She gets a... So we run the Pelosi tracker and we also have a politician trade tracker on Instagram and TikTok that each have 800,000. On TikTok, we have around 100,000 followers. People don't like that woman.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah. And she honestly is one of the five or six that I personally track that I know a decent amount about because of how many times she has conflicts of interest, what she trades. For example, she bought this company called Viasat. And what Viasat does is they're a military contractor. They're like a Starlink, like Elon's thing. But they do the communications for the military.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
They get hundreds of millions of dollars of contracts from this or that. She sits on the committee that oversees military construction. And it's like, I'm watching you trade this stock, you know, even aside from performance, I'm watching you buy and sell a military construction company while sitting on a committee that oversees military construction. How is that allowed? I don't know.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Another one was she bought a mining company called Helka Mining with ticker symbol HL. That stock has been fluctuating here and there. And I think she is up around 15% on it. She sits on one of the energy resources committees. And it's like... What are we doing?
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
I was disgusted by it. They got investigated by the DOJ, investigated by the SEC. Nothing happened. And that story is insane. And I think that story was where it really started to get— Can you just give us the outline of it for people who forgot?
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's a tough one. He's a hothead on Twitter now.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah, I don't understand why he's taken this stance a little bit.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah, because he used to be like a right-wing darling. Like he was, you know, with the Navy SEALs, I think, early, early on.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
But he's showing it now. Did you see the free press he did where we posted this? He essentially comes out. He's like supporting politicals, politicians, stock trading. He's like, if you get rid of it, you're going to get crappy politicians. And it's like, what are you talking about? You know, like we're not asking you guys to get paid.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Exactly. Yeah.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah, so he had a fiery one with the free press probably about like two months ago, right before Thanksgiving. I saw that. His portfolio, though, in particular, he's up around like 48% to 50%. And all of this... You know, I got to say this for compliance reasons. Like you can see all this on our app. You know, it's all right there. So I may kind of be depending on the day.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
But he outperformed the market. He was right below Pelosi. He's an idiot, though.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
His stocks, the one that in particular that really frustrated me about him was Meta.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
so he with the stocks that he's buying is his portfolio is comprised of meta which he's crushing it up like 200 he bought the dip perfectly back in 2022 i believe like pretty much perfectly the things started flying um he bought amazon he bought fas which is uh uh like uh finance etf he bought the spy and then he bought wind resorts and then he bought some other company the
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
So, Unusual Wales, he's an account on X. He was the one that initially started all this. So, the Pelosi tracker came— You know him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We work with him. Great guy. Yeah.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
The stock, though, that crushed it for him was Meta. And the part that I get annoyed about, you know, aside from TikTok bans, this and that, you can't... He buys the stock. A couple months later, starts pushing and publicly vocalizing, like, hey, everyone, we should ban TikTok. You know? And it's, like, pretty convenient to say when you own TikTok's main competitor.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And every time you're saying that, the stock's going up 5%. Uh... He then goes off and starts asking for the ban on, and again, I feel like I'm pretty pro-ban TikTok, so there's a whole world with that. But he then goes off and votes against the bill to ban TikTok. So now you got a politician that is buying TikTok's main competitor, Meta.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
You're then publicly talking about how you want to ban it from government officials' phones to then voting on the bill to ban TikTok all while the stock has gone up 200% while you've owned it.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
But don't yell at me. Yeah. Or even just help the conversation. Be like, yeah, I mean, if you guys are allowing us, like, I'll vote on it, this and that. Like, just be open and be transparent about it. Yes. You don't have to attack and, you know, gaslight.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah, the free press one, I'll send it to you after.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
That one gets my blood boiling because it's like – what frustrates me about this stuff is you can't sit on the committee. You can't be voting on these things. You can't be doing all this stuff in front of the American public. Meanwhile, I have a friend that is a consultant at –
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Obscure guy doesn't want the world to know about him, but he actually takes, deserves so much credit for this stuff. I don't think anyone would be unusual whales on Twitter. Yep. He is the one that would essentially call them out at the beginning. He started the Pelosi tracker in a way he was calling out the politician stuff.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
ey or uh deloitte he can't trade individual stocks i got friends in banking that can't trade individual stocks it's like why can you not let the low-level analyst the jp morgan buy you know apple yeah meanwhile you got these politicians buying up this 500 million military construction company I know the answer.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
I mean, that's kind of the short. Rules for the not for me. Is that a fair? Yeah, 100%. And what's the history of the Stock Act that started because of the housing crisis? Yeah. So it was initially introduced in 2006. And the Stock Act literally what it says is stop. Stop trading on congressional knowledge. That's what it means.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
So if you have a bill that literally says stop trading on congressional knowledge as the name of the act, you know that there's something already sketchy going on. And why was that not a thing to begin with? And so what happened to it? So in 2006, it got introduced. No politicians cared about it. You know, whatever.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
After the housing crisis, they found out and they realized that there were around 33 politicians that set their portfolios up after talking with the officials at the Fed and, you know, the people building up the monetary policy. They reconstructed their portfolios while that whole crisis was going on. They didn't have to display or publicly talk about it because the Stock Act wasn't announced.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
All that stuff came out after that, like, oh, while the housing market is crashing and Americans are losing their homes left and right, these politicians are moving millions, reconstructing their portfolios after getting out of the meetings with the Fed officials. So that's how it came back onto the center stage.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
The Stock Act then gets introduced in 2012, and then it gets passed shortly after that. What is crazy in my head, though, is, like, what the heck was going on before it? Yeah. Like, what do... That, I think, was we were talking off camera, like, our generation, we grow up with it and we're used to it now because of things like that. It's like, how can they have not had any limitations before 2012?
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
What were they doing?
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And then the Pelosi tracker came probably in 2022, but he started in 2020. And I think Richard Burr, that whole story started because Unusual Will started calling it out. The story behind the Richard Burr is around his COVID traits. And it was a full-on scandal. You covered it at Fox News.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
That was me. With the Pelosi tracker every day in the early days. I remember a couple of these trades and there's so many now, but I remember calling my dad up and I'm like, wait a second. Like, is this actually like, are they actually trading? It's not just Mike McCall. I can't remember the specific trades. I think it was him, but.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah. Yeah. He I'm trying to remember the trades because he he sits on the he sits on a lot of the intelligence committees or not a lot of the big committees. And he's trading millions. But it's not just like McCall. Yeah, I think so. I think so. He's in particular because he's really hard to track. We know this in the world of the us quiver quant usual whales. We're the ones that do this.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
He manually fills out the filings by hand. So his trades don't get picked up by the majority of a, I'm 99% sure I can confirm that, but yeah, he, and his trades, I think are weird because it's him. Uh, it's the, the dependent and the, the spouse, the trades, they come in kind of as the same. So there's an argument that maybe Mike McCall's trades are, uh, from a, from a financial advisor, but,
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
if he can tell us, you know, we tag him on Twitter. It's like, you guys can just tell us what's going on.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
The story is on February 7th, 2020, he wrote an op-ed with another senator saying, hey, Americans, don't worry. COVID's not that bad. We're keeping an eye on it. Everything will be okay. While he has and writes that op-ed, he's getting insider kind of details because he sat as the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee while he was writing that op-ed.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
I mean, you go a little bit north to Oklahoma, and Mark Wayne Mullen's an interesting one, too. What do you mean? I don't know too much about his... He's a fiery guy, too. Yeah, he was threatening to beat somebody up. Sean O'Brien. The Teamsters president. Yeah. Yeah, during that. Yeah, we built a whole thing. I like Sean O'Brien for the record.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Good guy. I don't... So that's what's... The thing that's interesting about me, again, from my background, is I don't know anything about these policies. I'm not a political person. We call out the politicians, the Democrats. The New York Times came out with a report in 2022 that said that 180 politicians traded over 3,700 times that totaled over $110, $115 million of volume from 2019 to 2021.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Out of those, it was literally pretty much half Democrats, half Republicans. So they're all doing it. Of course. Out of those 180 politicians, though, 90 of them sat on committees that directly oversaw companies that they traded. And you're like, okay, well, so that sounds like a conflict of interest.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And then that's what sparked me to get really into this and being like, what actually are the trades that are going on? Are they outperforming? Why are these random companies being bought? And Mike McCullough in particular, he...
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
checks this kind of box a lot he for example bought this stock in a company called badger meters earlier this year badger meters does a water meter solutions don't know much about it it's just freaking water meters two billion three billion dollar company turns out that the epa a couple months to his to be fair before he bought signed a mandate saying that all these water systems have to upgrade their technology beneficial for badger meters stock goes up
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
You then do some further digging, and then you realize that Tulsa, Oklahoma passed a $94 million bill to upgrade their own water meter systems right around the time that Mark Wayne Mullen bought Badger Meters. Oklahoma, Tulsa, Oklahoma is the state that Mark Wayne Mullen represents. He's the senator of it. So then you're like, EPA passes thing, passes the requirement to upgrade the water systems.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Senator buys stock. Senator's home state gives $100 million to upgrade water meter systems. Pro for Badger Meters, stock is up 50%. I think he's up like 48% on that.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
This is just Mark Wayne Mullen. Yeah. And that's no other politicians are buying. I've never heard of Badger Meters. I don't know anything about the company. But when you when you start just connecting all the dots, there's just too many hip like controversial eyebrow raising like, oh, wait. The state that you represent just put $100 million to upgrade their water systems.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Oh, wait, you just bought the company that specializes in upgrading water systems. Oh, wait, now the stock has been crushing on earnings and you're still loaning it. It's up 40%. He sold it earlier this year. He held it for probably, I think, like eight months. But I think he made like 50%, 40% to 50% on that stock. And again... This isn't an Apple. You know, this isn't a Google.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
This isn't an Nvidia. This is a water company. That's the type of stuff that we see.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
No, no. Funny enough, we have an inverse Cramer portfolio. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
So while sitting as the chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, he's getting private meetings saying, hey, guys, COVID is actually way worse than we think. This is not going to end the same way that people expect. be ready for some sort of rapid response.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
So how does Kramer do relative to, say, Mike McCall? Inverse Kramer, he beats them. So inverse Kramer was up 48% in 2024. Wait, inverse Kramer? Oh, yeah, yeah. We have a portfolio that does the opposite of what he does. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm telling you, we're a group of... You know, we're 15 now out in Irvine, California, just fucking around with some of these things.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And we're registered with the SEC.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Do you invest in these funds? Yeah, you can't. So, I mean, you can and you can't. I don't buy like the Pelosi ones because I ethically, I don't like to buy the companies that I tweet about because I don't want to believe in like, if I tweet this, the stock will go up 20%. Right. You know, I just don't even want to get into that world. I, though, invest in some of these other strategies.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
I have around 5K in a strategy provided by Quiver Quant. Great guys. They do what Unusual Wells does similar on Instagram and Twitter. They track the lobbying. So they see which companies are spending the most on lobbying in D.C. And then they build a strategy around it to see if a strategy like that outperforms the market over time. Well, I know what sector has spent a lot.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Really? We have a JD Vance portfolio. He has some Bitcoin. His portfolio is very good. He only is in ETFs. So kudos to him. But he owns some crypto.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And also credit to him. So he was a VC, Founders Fund. I don't come from this world, but I know this because our app is venture-backed. He had, again, credit to him, he had money in Rumble, so YouTube's competitor, via his venture capital firm. I can't confirm this. I've never met him. But when he got into office before he became VP, he sold out of Rumble.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
So only the stocks that he owns are just the main ETFs.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yes. Yeah. So, this is where it gets complex. And I'd be curious to hear your take on this. So... There's bills out there to get it banned. I think social media has done a tremendous job with this, with the Pelosi tracker, with all of us trying to call out with our app. Part of it is built to highlight the hypocrisy of just how big of a problem this is. $500 million shouldn't be copying Pelosi.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
If they are, that's a problem. So to credit to some of these politicians, AOC has done a lot. She's a fiery figure, but she has had two bills. She actually just released a bill a week ago called the Restore Faith in Government Act, and it calls for banning political stock trading. There's been around five bills. It's good for her. Yeah. She had a bill with Matt Gaetz. Yeah. Yeah.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
The bill that's got the farthest, and this is where this just frustrates me with all the stuff going on, is there was a bill introduced by Josh Howley, John Ossoff, and a couple other politicians. The reason why that one's important is because they got that to the Senate.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And in the Senate, while they were in one of the committees, the way that the bills enter the floor is they have to get passed off by the committee. This is the bill that made it the farthest. In that bill, though, they offered kind of four things. First, members can't trade stocks by 2025. This was introduced in 2024. Members can't trade stocks.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Second, spouses and dependents can't trade stocks through 2027. Third, any private investment you have, you have to sell out of to run, to become a politician. No one has ever asked for that. That has never come up and that became a big, big problem. This is where it gets scary and we have to be careful with what we're essentially pushing for.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Exactly. And he was tasked with partly like, get ready for a response. You know, like once COVID hits, we think this is going to be bad. Get ready for a response. Have your materials ready to tackle this situation. So he probably knew the severity of it. to a 10x what the everyday American and also probably what other senators and representatives did as well.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
So what everyone has asked for on these bills is no trading, No members and their spouses can trade, put it in a blind trust. Now this fourth bill, no trading, no members and spouse, blind trust, but also you have to sell out of every private investment. And that, when they started debating it, Mitt Romney, Tim Scott, and a couple other politicians on it were like, wait a second.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
We can't vote yes on this. If you guys are telling me that any future politician that wants to run has to sell out of private investments, that could become a major, major problem. If you want to run and be a politician, you'd have to sell out of your businesses. If I were to run, I would have to sell out of my businesses. A farmer would have to sell out of his family businesses. Is that right?
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Why are we essentially doing that? And when you take a step back at the time, this was Kamala versus Trump. Kamala just picked Tim Walz to be the VP. And you think about where the directions of each parties are going. If you have a bill out there that bans
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Politicians from owning in private investments you are turning off kind of a whole part of future people yeah and I mean you know you do kind of want people who are invested in the country.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And you know what's crazy? You had Trump and J.D. Vance. J.D. Vance, probably the most, in my lifetime, the smartest, most accomplished guy running for politics that I've ever seen. I think he's just tremendous. I totally agree. You got him with Trump, business guys first, politicians second. You got Vivek, business politician second.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
On the other side, you got Kamala, career-long politician, 20 plus years. Just parasite, yeah. Tim Walz. Tim Walz, you have to disclose what you own. He doesn't own anything. Like you even just said, like I own part of land in America. He doesn't, from my memory, he doesn't own a house. The only thing he owned on that public disclosure was a teacher's pension.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And then you start, it's like, where can we go with this path of, you know, pro-business, successful, competent people running our country versus career-long politicians that just know how to play the game of thrones in politics to be able to get to where they want? Exactly, nicely put. That scared the shit out of me when they started talking about that.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Well, it may be just a way to kill the whole idea. So that was the other thing, is it a kill pill?
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And... Give me the incentive. I'll give you the outcome. It's like if you have politicians that are incentivized for the good of American families, you know, it's like I totally agree. Kids, Trump, pro family. Exactly. You're going to build for your grandkids, not for you.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
So if you follow the timeline, though, February 7th is when he wrote that op-ed. February 13th is the day that he went and he sold off $1.65 million of his entire retirement account. So a week after he told the American, not only just a normal kind of investment account, his retirement account, he sold the whole thing.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And, you know, give Ro Khanna credit. The representative out of San Francisco, he's doing a lot on social media. He doesn't have as much power, but he's calling for term limits. And I think because we're looking at, you know, again, I'm 29. I'm not I don't. I'm just out here just calling citizen journalism on X, being like, this is ridiculous.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Let me build with my, like my skillset is I feel like I can do, I know how to use social media algorithms and I know how to build a product to get people involved in it. Let me use this as the best way in my ability as an American citizen to promote change, to bring trust back into the institutions. A big part of the problem looking at it is like, what are these 85 year olds doing? I agree. And
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
You know, for 30 years.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
My mom's a pediatrician. I know.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Oh, for sure.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah, this topic gets a lot of conversation on TikTok and Instagram in particular. Just mainly because it's like warmongering, not warmongering. The idea of even being able to profit from war probably shouldn't be allowed. Of course not. But they do. And whether they do it inherently or not, the three main companies are Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, and Raytheon Technologies.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Raytheon's hard because Raytheon is the company behind Israel's Iron Dome. So Israel and Hamas, that's pro-Raytheon. Raytheon's now selling missiles for the Iron Dome that we're watching on X go off every two days back then with Iran and all that and Lebanon. But The politicians, Mark Wayne Mullen, he sits on the Armed Services Committee. He owns Raytheon and Lockheed Martin.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And we've called them out for it because that's to another degree because you sit on the committee. Never heard anything about it. Unusual Wales has a great report on this.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah. So this is what's the problem with the way that they disclose right now is I don't know which ones are theirs or which ones are being run by a financial advisor. Because some of them have financial advisors running their portfolios, but they still have to disclose it. My hope is that it's financial advisors running some of these portfolios.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
five minutes. That's all it takes. Right. Yeah. And again, this is, and you put that out there publicly and he still owns those. Yeah. We call out everybody. Yeah. Yeah. There's no one that we, I, there's no policy. Like we called out the new politician this morning. Um, can't remember his name. A Republican from Kentucky who sits on the accountability, um, committee.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
He traded for the first time in three years. We made a tweet about him. Uh, Dan Goldman, uh, So Dan Goldman, he's a rich guy from New York. We called him out to the point where he stopped trading because we were making all these tweets of like- Well, he's got a ton of inherited money. A ton of inherited money, yeah. And credit to him, but I think this is the power of social media.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And I think this is a win, in my opinion, is like- Put it in a blind trust or just tell your – while you're a freaking politician, just go put it in the market. Like just don't buy individual stocks for the four or five years, eight, ten years.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
No, no, no, no. Yeah, the retirement account is something you don't touch. Those are the simply buy and hold, never touch them forever. But selling off that to that degree is extreme. And I think is what caught a lot of people's attention of like... You don't just do that. You know what? Yeah. You don't just do that while you're the chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, you know?
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Just put it in an index fund. Yeah, it's not – just do what everyone else is doing. Well, that's such a good point. It's not rocket science. And that's why I don't feel bad for calling out anybody because it's like Dan Crenshaw. You're going to complain about it. Just sell out of it and go put it in an index fund. No one's stopping you.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And that's why, like, if you were to ask me, what is the solution? I think the solution is kind of two things for how do you solve this whole thing? And again, like our mission is we're trying to instill trust back in society. Like I'm pro-America. You know, I want my grandkids to do well. I don't think a society functions if you can't trust your institutions. That's right.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And it starts with the politicians. Like look at... I'm going off on a tangent, but I live in LA. California... your heart breaks for it. And then you just start like, I don't know what to believe. Cause these, you got Newsome, you got everything going on on X, there's conflicting sides and you go on and you say, Hey, if you loot, you will get arrested. Okay, you guys are telling me that.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
I've watched for the past two years, everybody loot and no one get arrested. So you're now at this point where we're supposed to trust you on this fact that, oh, if you loot now, you'll get arrested. Meanwhile, you've promoted and incentivized that behavior for people to get away with it. And what do you think happens? No one's going to believe you. The trust is gone.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah, I haven't seen it in particular, but I mean, you can't walk into a CVS. The amount of times I've walked into CVS and your heart breaks for the little girl behind the cashier having to deal with these guys just walking in and out. Because you do see it, and it's scary. That's looting on smaller proportions, but you for sure see it in California. I think it's major.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Exactly. I'm a first principle thinker. I think it's trust. I just don't think people trust that things will get done. And now if you take it out, I love California. I don't think it's as bad as people make it sound. But if you can't trust the politicians, society crumbles. And I see with the trading, if you can't trust the majority of politicians, America will crumble.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Because why would I believe what the politician is telling me while I'm watching them do these other things right in front of my face and I can't do anything about it. So we want them banned to get the trust back into that. But the problem with the ban is, if in that ban, you would have to ban the kids and you would have to ban the spouses from trading.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Is it constitutionally allowed to say, hey, say you're a senator from Florida and you're like, hey, Tucker, You want to be a senator, that's fine. But per the Stock Act now, your kids can't trade stocks and your spouse can't trade stocks. What if your kid is a hedge fund manager or your kid is, you know, like, how do you ban that kid?
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
But to make this, this is why I get passionate about. It's like, I'm not even a political guy. I'll tell you the whole story of how this started. I didn't grow up being obsessed with politics. I just, citizen journalists kind of see the opportunity and be like, this is fucked up. We should stop this. The story though then goes, February 13th, he sells off 1.65 million.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Don't take everyone. Yeah, when you're Halloween trick-or-treating, you're not taking every big Reese's bar.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah. I don't know. I don't know either. But I think a solution, though, can be in this is where like get rid of the delay, make them file the same day so that you increase transparency around that. How long is it 45 days? And I don't I did a lot of research. I couldn't figure out why there was a delay to begin with. I don't understand why. Why do you need a 45 day delay? I don't know.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
That's per the Stock Act. But also, once you get rid of the delay, just make it so that either the politicians have to invest in a blind trust or major ETFs, or if you're not going to go that far, just don't allow them to trade companies they oversee. And it's very, very simple.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
If I'm a consultant covering pharmaceutical industry at Deloitte, Deloitte does not allow that consultant to buy pharmaceutical stocks. They can buy other stocks, but they can't buy pharmaceutical. And it's all just a step in the right direction towards something that we can get on the right path to trusting the politicians again. That's my goal.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah, and we haven't. Maybe that's the next step. The SEC has never investigated any of them. And I think the SEC just has a ton of stuff on their hands, to be honest.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
We'll see what happens.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah. And the hard part about this is the SEC with... There's billion-dollar schemes. Like, they should have found SBF, you know, kind of thing. The politicians is not... the major, major thing on the monetary side, but it is though on the public image side. And that's what I think, like, I don't think people understand the long-term effects of not trusting institutions.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
I feel like they've forgotten about it. They forgot the whole fruit, you know?
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
30 minutes later, he calls his brother-in-law. And him and his brother-in-law have around a two-minute conversation. The brother-in-law hangs up the phone, calls his financial advisor. His financial advisor doesn't pick up. He then calls his second financial advisor. They pick up. They have around a 30-second conversation. He then goes off and sells off $265,000 of his own portfolio.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
How are defense stocks doing? They're up. They're up. They weren't up earlier this year, I believe, but I think the one that I followed in particular was Raytheon, and I think Raytheon's up around 80%. So my thought is Lockheed and General Dynamics are up too. But there's smaller ones. I mean, Tommy Tuberville bought this company called Humasite.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And what Humasite does is it treats soldiers injured in war in Ukraine. And he bought that stock. We flagged it because he sits on the Armed Services Committee. And if you go on the Armed Services website, it literally says helping companies do military research. He buys a company that does military research. The stock was up, I think, at the peak of it, 100%.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
He sold out early, so I think he made 30%. But it's not even just... My point is it's not necessarily even just Lockheed, Raytheon. It's these companies that get military government contracts to help the... The long tail.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
I know. Yeah. I was listening to a couple of your other podcasts.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
In 2024, you would have done better. And this is all up if people want to go on join autopilot dot com or even on our app autopilot. You'll see all these numbers because I don't want to mess up the numbers. Yeah, of course. Yeah. But Kramer was up 48 percent. Stock market was up around 25 percent. He was up, not inverse. Sorry. Sorry. Inverse. Inverse Kramer was up 48%.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
The opposite of Kramer was up 48%. And we balance that thing on a monthly basis. He has his own stock group, which maybe we'll pay to get the subscription in to actually see the stocks that he's talking about. He has this through CNBC.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
That's crazy. It's... Do you think it's a gag? I think it's social media. Not even social media. I think it's just how media works. It's headlines and you have to talk about... But he's like a Harvard graduate who's like a genius, everybody.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And he has a private stock market group. that does all this stuff that he tells people with personal stock picks and stuff like that. So it's not even just he gets employed and does it on social media and TV. He has a personal group that does it. But. Yeah, that one blows my mind because I don't know how you can say don't sell Tesla and the stock goes up 100%.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
There's a tremendous video from early days with Tesla when Kramer is essentially talking about Tesla, says it's trash. Get rid of it. Don't even talk about it. From that day, the stock sunk thousands, thousands and thousands of percent up. Elon loves it.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
That's exactly right. Do you have any guesses? No. I mean, I think like. if I'm thinking about it, cause I haven't really thought too much about it on the sense of, um, how does it actually like, how can it actually do it so well?
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
So now you got the senator, who's the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, calling up his brother-in-law, them having a conversation, and then the brother-in-law going and selling off 30 seconds after that conversation. Now, I don't, that's sketchy as hell to me.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
My thought is maybe though, like the way that the markets work and I'm no expert at this is, you know, you want to buy the news and sell the, um, or buy the buildup and then you sell the news. Yeah. Kramer can just be slow with getting onto these popular stocks so that by the time he's talking about Tesla, by the time he's talking about, Hey, you know, go buy Nvidia. It's like, yeah, you,
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
everyone's been talking about nvidia for six months before you start talking about it the portfolio that we have for him on autopilot is 15 million dollars following him following his inverse picks so essentially there's a we have a pseudo etf ish sort of thing this All based on his stupidity. All based on his stupidity, yeah. Or all based on what he thinks is right that turns out to be wrong.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
That's incredible.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's been a journey. And again, like...
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
i don't come from this world you know i was living in bali before we started this thing and brian aaron scott my co-founders like we all did this stuff together we didn't think it would get this big uh we got a lot of no's and like the slogan of what our app essentially was was invest like a politician so like if your app says invest like a politician how big can that thing actually become how popular can that actually be
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Turns out it can be very popular because not only are they good, it's also the perfect way to highlight the hypocrisy. Because what better way to highlight the hypocrisy of politicians stock trading than to literally build an app to invest alongside that hypocrisy. And the next thing you know, you got ABC News talking about us. Elon's retweeted us. Major thanks to you.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
This is the first time we've ever had a long form conversation about this. Our app is, when we launched it, we were number two in the app store. No way! The whole thing blew up right before our very eyes. Yeah. And the Pelosi tracker was a great part of that. But we have much, much bigger, much broader ambitions. And that's where the venture-backed part comes in.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
100%.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
100%. Because our mission is to instill trust back in the institutions. And I'm not an expert at this topic, but the way that we see it is... Knock out the politicians. And this is all through autopilot. Autopilots are like our slogan in the broader when we pitch investors. I love the name, by the way. Yeah, I know. Put your money on it. It's to redefine money management.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
So I'm 29 and we're about to go through the greatest wealth transfer in the history of the world. You know, 85 trillion is about to be parked on people like my doorstep. say i get half a million dollars when the boomers die yeah that's when the boomers die and part of that money is in housing but there still is a lot that goes into money management
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
75% of kids who inherit their parents' money fire their parents' financial advisor the day they get that money. So now you got a kid who has half a million dollars parked on his lap, fires the financial manager because it's like, who the heck are you? And now they have to make the decisions of how do I invest this money? Do I do it on my own?
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Do I do it through a Google search, pick the top financial advisor? Do I do it through a friend? We think there's a lot of problems in that. And there's no trust and transparency in those decisions.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
So with Autopilot, what we're trying to do is solve that trust and transparent way by building a marketplace to find a money manager and then invest through that money manager in a way that you still have control. And I think like what you said earlier, and I'm sorry for rambling, but... No, I love it. The big, big thing that we're trying to do is...
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
We're trying to ensure that people's money builds the futures that they want. And I think in 2030, 2035, 2040, this is going to become a bigger and bigger thing. And a good example of the early inklings of this is this Whether it's conspiracy theory or not, we'll see what happens with it.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
But this topic of BlackRock and Vanguard having money and taking the assets in their own ETFs and stuff and using that to sway public interest
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
laws and public opinion in the company in the states that they oversee they're getting sued in texas they're getting sued in florida and part of like what again whether that's true or not what annoys me personally when i invest is i want to make sure that my money goes towards my beliefs and if you have someone else managing your money or you put your money in a vanguard you put your money in a blackrock
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
There's possibilities for that to happen at a much broader scale than if you do it on your own. That's exactly right. And that's like what we're trying to... We're trying to build that. We're trying to essentially build out the way that you can have your money managed without you having to sacrifice your own values, your own voter rights, your own beliefs. Exactly.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And it works for both sides. Like it... For me personally, pro-America, I don't want any dollars invested in Chinese stocks. And if I have maybe a couple hundred bucks if you're trying to swing an Alibaba, but if you got half a million dollars in that retirement, I don't want any of that invested in Alibaba. Inherently, you are funding a future where Alibaba succeeds. Do you want that?
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
The other side is we have customers and we have clients that are like, I don't want my money invested in oil companies. I want to be pro-EV. It's like, okay, but did you know that you got your retirement account with these other people and they... They have money in Chevron, Oxy, things like that. That's what we're trying to solve and trying to build to. And again, it all starts with just trust.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Because if you can't trust even where your money is being invested, what does that mean? In my opinion, that means society is worse off because you don't even trust how your money is being managed in that state that you're in.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And the other argument to be had is around February 13th, I don't remember the headlines that were coming out. How extreme was that? If you're the brother-in-law, of course you sell out. Of course! It's not like you're necessarily going to listen to that, read all the headlines and do nothing about it. So it's not even necessarily his fault for selling.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Exactly. Happened with all the COVID loans.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Pelosi was a big part of this too. The PPO. The PPO with the employees. So there's documents. So Pelosi owns a hotel up in Napa. I think it's a hotel. And she has had this one property. That has made $100,000, lost $100,000. And you all have to file this every year. And in it, you have your income. Made $100K, lost $100K, made $100K, lost $100K.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
The year that COVID happened, they made $5 million plus. In profit. So how do you go from... And this is income. This isn't necessarily even just like... It's not necessarily loans or anything. This is income. You lose $100K. You make $100K. COVID happens. The loans go out. Your business now makes $5 million. Year after that, you go back down to making $100K and then making $100K, losing $100K.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
So there was an anomaly. This came out, I think, by the New York Post right after Thanksgiving, I think. And they highlight this. And it's like, was the corruption around these PPP loans, these COVID loans, did this get up to the degree that the politicians were benefiting from this too? And it seems like it did. So that's again, that frustrates me because we have a family company.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
We sell sports compression products, little arm sleeves. We don't necessarily have employees, but we're a small family business. We took out a loan to survive because we sell in sports. Sports got canceled. We have to pay that loan back, which is fine. We knew that when we took it out that we have to pay this loan back. But that loan money didn't go towards profiting us.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
It essentially went towards sustaining us.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
had to pay it back though that loan to pelosi the the five million dollars that she makes it comes in as income you don't have to pay it back because it it's just so messed up it's disgusting yeah it's in again i don't come from any of this stuff i don't nothing about the politics and how it was before we started tracking and it just shocks me of like these
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
rules for thee and not for me, to the every single aspect of our lives.
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Thank you again for having me on.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And it's not just us. I think Elon with X saved everything because we had a Pelosi tracker on Meta banned. They banned it? Banned the first week, yeah. Why? Uh, I think in their disclaimer and whatnot, they said they couldn't use the name Pelosi Tracker.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And I don't think like that's where the insider trading necessarily happens. I think the culprit is the person who makes that initial phone call, which is, I think, where the investigation. Of course. So then what they do with the money?
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
So we then created and we did the Politician Trade Tracker. So we're on Instagram now. But Elon with X in the citizen journalism that's going on, I think that's like the biggest thing that I'm proud of is like – whether these news, CNNs, Fox News, NBCs, I don't know how they're going to adapt to it, but they have to figure out a way to hit the masses
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
through social media and the best people at it are these citizen journalists on X that are doing all this work that are uncovering these stories they may not have all the facts they may not be 100% right there's probably some grifters out there but at the end of the day the conversation is being had and it's a step in the right direction oh it's wonderful everything about it is wonderful thank you for taking this time appreciate it I do
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
uh they keep so they that happened on february 13th um and then the storyline goes they started having private richard burr started having private conversations with his donors and then the donors were starting to set all this stuff up a month later not even a month three weeks after that around march early march is when the market fell 30 and they saved themselves millions um
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
That all gets blown up because of, again, unusual whales. The SEC gets involved. The DOJ gets involved. They then find nothing. Well, they find all this information. That's how we know about the text. The FBI came in. But they don't charge them with anything. Nothing happens. Richard Burr retires and... You know, it's just like, again, we were chatting about this off camera. I'm 29.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
I grew up with this. I'm not surprised by it. I'm just like, yeah, of course, the politicians kind of can build this situation where they benefit and people will come after them. They'll make a facade. No charges will happen and they'll go off into the sunset.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
He had to step down, too, while he was getting investigated. But yeah, I mean, I believe it. Wow.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah, I'm watching this at home while I'm building the social investing app that at the time was called Iris. So that's what's funny about it. I, you know, we run the Pelosi tracker. I'm not a political guy. I'm just an everyday dude. You know, I'm 26, moved out to California to build this with my friends. And then the politics stuff starts happening.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And like our mission with our app is to try and instill trust back into institutions. And we always wanted to do that. And our bigger picture was financial management and that whole space. But then we started seeing the politics stuff. It's like, this is incredible that they're able to do this. We have technology and we have the team that we can actually build a way for us to get involved with it.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
And what better way to highlight like the hypocrisy of politician stock trading than to build a way to actually copy them and invest alongside them. And that's how like how our app started. But at the time, no, none of that.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
How'd you do that? How'd the whole thing start? I mean, I'm 29 now. At 25, would I say that, you know, looking five years from then, I'll be running a Pelosi Stock Tracker, building an app with the slogan, invest like a politician, having that thing become a thing? No, I don't think I would have ever gotten to that. Um, so at 25, I was actually living in Bali.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah. I mean, it's just hilarious. It shouldn't be. No, I know. I know. It's crazy. You have to laugh at tragedy. I know it's working. I'll get into the whole thing about how Pelosi crushed it. She was up 54% last year. We got half a billion dollars invested alongside her. The app is too popular. It shouldn't be this popular with just a slogan, invest like a politician.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
But I think it perfectly encompasses and showcases like the slogan of what's wrong with society right now. It's not only do we not trust politicians, we now are at the point where like throwing up our hands, like, fuck it. You know, if you guys aren't going to ban it, you're going to keep doing it.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
We're going to build a way to get in on the action and what better way to do it and highlight the epoxy than copying them. You're making my day. Yeah. I mean, I, again, though, if I can snap my fingers and have it just go away. Of course, but you can't, unfortunately. So, okay.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Yeah. Pelosi. So Pelosi gets a lot of headlines for obvious reasons. One, uh, millions, massively outweighs what the other politicians are trading. And I'm talking like she's trading 50 to 60 million while everyone else is trading smaller amounts. When she got married, I think it was in 2012, And there's a whole arc for her. She got married in 2012 to Paul, Paul Pelosi, ex-VC.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
No, no, she's been married to Paul Pelosi for decades. Oh, has she? Okay, then when they got married, I'm mixing up. 2012 is when the Stock Act started. That's when they had to start showcasing it. When she got married to Paul, they were worth around $20 million, their net worth. Their net worth now is around $260 million. So you're 10Xing that. How?
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
She's been a career-long politician, making $175K. Her husband's very successful in stocks, particularly tech stocks. It all started with her in 2020 when she bought Tesla. And this is when I personally started paying attention. And then you look back and it's like, holy shit, this has been going on forever. And that actually started back in with the Visa IPO.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
so with the visa ipo she and her husband were able to get privileged ways to buy in on the ipo no one knows how no one knows why and then the stock absolutely crushed it so that was brought up on a 60 minutes interview um and that was that iconic interview from the the reporter asking her like do you think this should be allowed is this fine that you got in on the visa and then you know this is 10 12 years ago nothing necessarily happened
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
uh again 2020 comes around covid so people already necessarily know about her she now starts trading stocks again and it's getting blown up on social media because while everyone's with covid what are they doing they're on social media and they're trading stocks so now everyone's like acutely watching these things and paying attention she in end of 2020
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
I quit my New York city job when I was doing finance and I started working on my family company where we would sell sports compression products, like little ones with numbers on them, a custom ones that you would get for your kid for, you know, peewee football. And I was so sick of the finance grind in New York that I was like, I'm going to work on this family thing.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
2020, right after Biden got elected, she went and bought up to $5 million of Tesla calls. And I can go on forever about the details of these things. She's not just buying stock. Well, her husband's not just buying. She's buying these things called leaps. And what a leap is, is a options contract that allows you to buy a stock and be bullish on a stock at a much cheaper cost basis.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
So instead of you needing $5 million to buy X amount of quote unquote risk in a stock for it to go up, you can actually take that $5 million and buy a leap and it gives you a broader delta so that you can make more money. Essentially higher risk, high reward. So she goes and she's buying these leaps. She's not just buying the stocks in them.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
She buys leaps in Tesla at the end of 2020, right after Biden got elected. 2021 comes around, or excuse me, 2019 into 2020, because that was when Biden started. There's so many dates. But when Biden's first few weeks in office, he introduces the Build Back Better 1.3, 2.3, whatever massive infrastructure bill. Do you remember that one? Very well.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
Part of that bill had tons of not only subsidies for the electric vehicle industry, but also money to build out and invest for the charging ports for electric vehicles. Because you can't just tell people to go buy electric cars. You need to have the infrastructure. So when you start following the timeline on it, it's like, okay, Biden gets elected.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
She buys up to $5 million of leaps, which are very risky in Tesla. That agenda then comes out. The stock flies 50%. So it's not like she's actually buying things that the public wouldn't necessarily know about, but she's buying things in a high risky way with a ton of money in ways that the public now is paying attention to because everyone's trading stocks and they're watching Tesla, Elon.
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
That was when the thing started blowing up. And that was the first trade that probably, I think, re-triggered everyone's mind into like... wait a second, you know, this may not be the sketchiest trade in the world because those things were still public, but how are they allowed to necessarily do that?
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Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker Chris Josephs: How to Get Rich by Investing Like a Politician
How is Pelosi, the third most powerful person in America, you know, president, VP, the house, the head speaker, they shouldn't be allowed to trade stocks How is this even like, how are we allowing that? And I think like the culmination of those different intersections is why this started getting big and why people started paying attention specifically to Pelosi.