Carl (Carl Miller)

That's, I think, the final idea I want to leave us with.

Like, what does all of this actually really mean?

When I first started doing this, I thought the kinds of cases that we were gonna be dealing with were gonna be to do with maybe organized crime, big drug deals gone awry.

And I think the reality is somewhat more unsettling than all of that.

What this website seems to do

in the eyes of the orders at least, is to make taking out a hit on someone convenient and clean and safe and easy, whereas it was once difficult and dangerous and scary.

It's essentially lowered the barriers to entry to ordering an assassination.

And I think that that brings us face to face with something that is quite disconcerting.

The people on this list, the kill list, and the people that put them there are normal people.

The perpetrators are basically normal people.

They have jobs, they have friends, they go about living their lives just like you and I. And they were going about holding all of that down basically at the same time that they were plotting in secret constantly, coldly often, to have someone killed.

I think that if there's one thing that unites them all, it was often intimate part of violence, by the way, spiraling out of control.

And I think the one thing that unites them all is a desire for control, a need to have it, an inability to lose it, control of a thing, control of a relationship, of a family, and a willingness, ultimately, of course, to kill to get it back.

But I think that's where we are.

And if there's one thing that I've come away from this whole lurid, crazy journey really thinking, we might all be just a little bit closer to being on a kill list, we might like to think.

Thanks very much, everyone.