Carl (Carl Miller)
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Podcast Appearances
The husband does not know this is happening, writes the order.
The husband definitely did know this was happening.
This is a husband, Dr. Ronald Ilk, a neonatologist, a doctor, a man who ran a clinic for vulnerable women with addiction issues, a man who went from a poor rural upbringing in Oregon to a senior city clinician, and a man obsessed with controlling all the people in his life, especially the women.
A man so devoid of contrition that after his conviction, he's been trying to sell the book rights to his life by describing it as 50 shades of gray on steroids.
And it wasn't just here.
We saw orders in Nevada, we saw orders in Tampa, we saw orders in Spain, we saw orders in Italy, we saw orders almost everywhere.
Now, we started working in secret with the FBI, and we were passing all of our orders to the FBI.
To give you a sense of the scale, over the years that we were doing this, we disclosed 175 paid-for kill orders around the world.
32 arrests so far, 28 convictions so far, around 180 years of prison time has been sentenced as a result of the investigation so far.
There's probably more to come.
And in case anyone's wondering, no, we're not still doing this.
So there's a whole other investigation that we did into the people running the site.
It turns out very likely that they were a group of Romanian cyber criminals, and some years ago they were then arrested in a rash of raids across Romania.
We were then locked out of the site, and yet convictions have continued that we had nothing to do with.
And that is the only reason I can stand on this stage today and tell you about any of this.
This is, by the way, not a story I really thought I would ever be on a stage and able to tell anyone about.
So it's a spectacular moment for me to be able to finally kind of talk to the world about what we were doing all those long years ago.
But where are we left with?