Brandon Bowsky
Appearances
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
How's it going? Thanks for having me, Dan. Appreciate you. Let's see. Background was a professional gamer when I dropped out of school at 15, got into DJing and producing electronic music. After that, ended up doing a brief stint as a manager of electronic artists. Partner screwed me over. Had a subscription box startup in 2015 when that was still hot. Brand new. Failed miserably.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And then ended up living in my car. And somebody said, go try insurance. So I did. and ended up growing a pretty big agency, hundreds of employees from 30 at the time when I started there. Left that, started my own thing, made a few million dollars, and then that turned into wanting to buy a watch. Ex-girlfriend didn't want me to spend money, so I decided I would make the money on the side.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
She couldn't get mad. That led to a lead gen empire that did hundreds of millions of dollars and powered over a billion dollars in revenue for clients. Well over $5 billion, probably close to $10 billion now in insurance premiums. And then now today just focused on scaling, you know, coaching and mentorship programs that can help people get the lives of their dreams.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
I think the majority of people just don't want to put themselves out there and they're deathly afraid of failure. And they're even more afraid of being perceived publicly failing to me. And I'm sure you've had this happen. Failure just happens. It's just life. And if you're not failing, you're probably not going to learn because you only learn from your mistakes.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
You don't learn as much from your successes. Your successes are usually blind luck. It's like, we had this idea. The idea did well. Okay, great. Now that doesn't universally apply to every idea we're ever going to have. We're going to try tons of, I had a gym over a million dollar loss, biohacking gym before it's time. Now there's tons of biohacking stuff.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
It's a craze, but in COVID during a pandemic, having a gym, major L. And I've had a million other ideas. I mean, dude, I've had over 100 registered corps. I probably only made money at 15, 20 companies. And a lot of people don't see that part. They just see the flashy cars, the nice houses, living in a million cities, private jets, all that stuff, and think, oh, yeah, it must be nice.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
Or, oh, that guy got lucky. It's like, no, you just fail a lot. And a lot of people are very, very afraid to fail.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
Yeah, so I mean, I wanna agree, never quit your day job. I tell people that no matter what they plan on doing, pivoting to, if you have a stable source of income and you don't have a massive surplus of savings, like a big war chest, do not quit your job that provides you the meals. Because otherwise you're screwed. And a lot of people are like, I want my back up against the wall. No, you don't.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
You really don't.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
No, and you might be, and you'll find out the hard way, but most people, 95, 99%, they're not built like that. To me, I think you take the thing that you're doing well, think, what could I do like that in my off time to make extra money? Or if I want to do something totally different that I don't like that thing I'm doing, let's say. I want to probably tell people to start in sales.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
The reason being, if you sell something someone else has already proven, a lot of the guesswork is taken out. And you don't have to quit your day job to sell something. Exactly. And you get to learn. You get to learn how that operation functions, what all the different roles are, all the different teams, the different departments.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And then you can eventually replicate that over time when you have something that you can sell that is your own. And I think a lot of people... They chase the next shiny object thinking that buying some information from somebody or paying somebody to mentor them, which is oftentimes a really bad deal because they're not ready for the mentorship.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And they just think, if I pay this person, they'll just tell me how to be successful. No, I mean, people like us that have been successful, we can only tell people the answers to the questions that they have. For us to try to download or upload to them everything that we've ever done, it's never going to happen. We couldn't spend enough time if we tried.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
So I think a lot of people are looking for the wrong thing and they should just be looking for what is the low-hanging fruit opportunity where I can put additional money in my bank that can eventually replace my day job doing something I maybe like more or if I don't like it more, on the road to doing something I like more. I usually think that's sales.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
$1,500.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
No. I'll tell you the worst part about the 50 grand. When the person starts taking the 50, 100 grand, let's say you're crushing it and they have the ability to grow and scale or they could stay at their like 1.5 million number where they're able to pull out 300 grand a year. We as investors, we're screwed. For sure.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
Not only are we screwed financially because the valuation is never going to go up because they're not growing and because the profit, even if we own a chunk of the company. Right. It's going to take forever to pay us back, but we're screwed because that person's life just changed.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And a lot of people, when they experienced that first big shift where they go from making 50, 60, a hundred grand to half a million plus or 300 grand plus, or, you know, in this day and age, especially around a million plus, when they start making that type of money, everything changes. And most people don't keep the hunger. They think I'm rich now.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And in insurance, we just called the Ferrari boys because they would make their first, you know, 500 grand and spend 300 on a Ferrari or a Lambo and And it's a real problem, but everybody does it because they want to keep up with the Joneses. The reality is most of the people they're trying to keep up with don't have it either.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And you start to see who has it and who doesn't when they have it for 10 years straight. But these people, they see, oh, my friend has this watch. I got to go get a better watch. Or my friend's got that. I got to get this. The second you start taking that money out and it hits the bank, people don't realize it's so easy to spend money.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And it's easy to make money, too. Don't get me wrong. If you have a good plan, it's easy to make money once you know how to make money. But when you're learning how to make money and you might have just lucked into some and you start blowing it, recipe for disaster.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
Yep.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
Man, well, it teaches you how to prepare for rejection very well and how to get accustomed to it because a lot of the time when you sell insurance, you're either knocking on doors, meeting people face to face, or you're making phone calls. So it's like the Not a lot of people sell digitally and it's just not scalable.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
People don't want insurance until you explain to them why they need it typically, or they know that they need it and they come to you to get it. And it's a matter of, are you cheaper? Are you more personable? Why should they buy from you, et cetera? I think it's a really good opportunity because one, it makes a lot of money. Insurance is a great business. Like it makes money.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
It's been around for a long time. It's a proven model and it's all based on actuarial data. So you have a plan and you have loss ratios and you know exactly what it costs for you to fulfill that plan. So maybe it's, you know, 50 cents on the dollar, maybe it's 80 cents on the dollar plus plus.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And you know that that margin there exists for either the company to make money, the agent to get paid or whatever the situation might be. And there could be upsells, cross sells, all those things. That's for the carriers to worry about. For a salesperson though, it's a tremendous way to make a lot of money.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
Because let's say you're doing life insurance, you sold one person a policy a day, and you took a standard advance, and let's say you service the customers and they pay off, you could make $1,000 a day. A day? A day. Just selling one person, one family, a life insurance policy.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And I'm not even a life insurance guy. I'm a health insurance guy. You could do the same thing in Medicare where the LTVs are around $1,200, and you could sell a person, have $300 in client acquisition cost, and you're the one selling, you're the one servicing. You could also make $1,000 a day there.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
But instead of advancing it, it's realized over time in small little chunks of $30 bonuses here, there, et cetera. In health, though, the reason why I liked health and why I told people to get into health, now it's very seasonal because the American Rescue Plan Act, Inflation Reduction Act stuff that made it all year round is coming to a close at the end of this year.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
But even as a seasonal business, you can work for three months and make enough money to live for the entire year and try all the things you want to try. Because let's say you can enroll 10 people a day, which is not a hard thing to do, by the way. The average guy can do that, any average Joe. You enroll 10 people a day, and it's not sales. Everybody needs health insurance.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
10 people a day, the average one of those plans will be worth somewhere around $350, $400, depending on your commission levels, contracts. Let's even round down to $300. you got three grand a day coming in. Your cost was a hundred bucks per. So you've got $2,000 a day in profit as an independent guy just sitting in his bedroom selling health insurance.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And a health insurance license, a couple hundred bucks to get. So you go do that, you spend two weeks studying, you take the test, you're out the door. You start your own agency so you have a business for write-offs. And again, 40 grand in a month. You do that for three months, you have 120 grand. Most people, their households make a hundred grand a year now. Dual income households.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
So if you've got that 120 grand and it's all residual income and you're answering the phone, answer some questions for your clients and be a good guy, whatever, you've got the rest of the year to play around and figure out what you want to do next or pick up a new hustle or something else.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And that's why I like the don't quit your day job, but also do something that creates recurring income because the recurring revenue model, it's great if it's profitable and insurance is a highly profitable way to do it. So I like that as a vehicle to get started because I've seen it work for so many people and I've taught so many people how to become millionaires doing it.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
That's a terrible question to ask me. I try to invest in as little things as possible other than myself. I try to stay pretty liquid or I buy assets that I enjoy because I think happiness ROI is really important. Like being able to get happiness on the money that you spend.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
So for me, it might be having a few nice cars or a really nice house or maybe five houses in different places and being able to travel. Those things make me happy and are good investments for me because the happier I am, the better I perform and not everybody's like that. And obviously not everybody has the same money to play with.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
I think when you're making your first bit of money, I personally believe high yield savings if you are somebody who can repurpose that money. So a lot of people don't think about how to repurpose money. They just think I have money in a bank and it's going up and that's good. Not necessarily because the value of the dollar has been going down lately.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
So you can put it into like an S&P and try to battle inflation or an index fund or something like that, which is fine. You can put it in a high yield savings. Again, try to battle part of inflation. That's fine. But I think people should always be looking for what the next thing is and just be open to different ideas.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
Like you've talked about franchises to me where I've been like, hmm, it's actually not a terrible idea. That could be a good idea. And for some people, it would be. And for other people, real estate's a good idea. Some people are naturally more risk tolerant and trading might be good for them. I personally will not trade at all.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
My buddy convinced me to put 300 grand into a crypto project last year. It wasn't like a meme coin. It was like a real project. I mean, it was WorldCoin backed by OpenAI. Took a freaking bath on it. I threw another 100 grand in. Still, I'm taking a bath. And I think it's less than half of what I put into it. I mean, it's a terrible, terrible situation.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
But I was just like, yeah, sure, I'll gamble it. But for some people, they do that with their entire livelihood. I think gambling, high-risk investments, I consider them gambling, should be made with a very small amount of the money that you have to play with. And I think otherwise, you should do your research, do your due diligence, make safe investments.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
I don't think real estate is the greatest investment. primarily because the market's been flat. And I think that most people are buying overvalued properties with way too high of interest rates. And it just doesn't make any financial sense because you can't even rent for the mortgage right now at a lot of places.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
So if I can't rent the place out to pay the mortgage, why would I invest in that property? But people think I buy real estate, I get wealth, and it's just not how it works all the time. You have to be savvy. So my advice to people on investing is research every possible opportunity. And then find the wins. Follow the wins. Not the wins from five years ago or 10 years ago. The current wins.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
See where people that you know are winning. And if you don't know where people are winning yet, don't rush to put your money anywhere. Save it. But my personal philosophy is invest in myself and invest in businesses I believe in. Because if I can partner with somebody and I trust them to do the work and they have a proven track record, I want to give that guy my money.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
Just the same reason people want to do business with me because I'm good at what I do. Or business with you because you're good at what you do. That's what my advice would be. Get good at something, invest in yourself, and keep scaling that thing that you're good at until you can't anymore, and then start thinking of where to park your money.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
So I used to be anti-course, anti-program, anti-mentorship, all that stuff. I'm still somewhat anti-mentorship depending on, like, you really have to know that you can extract value and you know that person's real and you know that they have knowledge that you want. But lately, I'll buy any info product just to see what people are doing. I just want to know what makes their offer tick.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
Why are they structuring it the way they're structuring it? Could they have done it better? Is there an opportunity to do it better? Is the character even real? Is the program valuable? Like those are reasons that I spend money.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And I think a lot of people, when they're looking for new skills, they do the thing where they get on the phone with a high ticket salesperson and get pressured into buying something. And it wasn't even the right fit for them, the right program. And I'm not saying that there is a right program, but knowledge is important.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And the more you learn about more things, the more conversations you can have. And I've said this to people that have paid me for, I have a $50,000 program. And it teaches you how to do lead gen, soup to nuts, 50 chapters. I mean, it's an in-depth thing. And for 5% of revenue, we'll coach you through it. It's a whole thing. There are people that do nothing after paying that money.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And there are people that go balls to the wall and crush it. And there are people that I taught this to for years for free that have been really successful. But I don't tell people to give me their last 50 grand. And people have tried and they're like, oh, my back's against the wall. I'll do better.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
It's like, hell no, I don't want your money because that guy's going to call me 472 times about why he's not doing the work right. And I think that people rush to invest in something because they think that they can do a thing. But they should first look internally and see what could be best for me, like my personality type, my risk tolerance.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And then what of those things do I think I would enjoy? Like I always tell people, before you make any investment in yourself or decide on any business venture, you should always think and ask five questions. The most important one is what do you do every day to someone who already does it?
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And the reason is if you ask somebody what they do every day and you don't want to commit to that lifestyle, for example, if I said I make $10 million a year and I run a call center, I don't. But if I did and you said, oh, I want to travel the world and work remotely, that would be a bad fit. That's a non-starter.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
Now you might say, well, I would grind away to make $10 million a year and then go do that. But the odds of you succeeding as much as the person that's teaching people is not very high. So I would say that's a mismatch. Now, if somebody told you, here's how you can make a million dollars a year traveling the world,
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
and it was real and you saw people doing it and you knew people that had done it, that might be a good fit because it aligns with what you want. And I think a lot of people don't do good enough vetting of what they really want and what they think they'll actually be good at.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
Man, so I've never forced anybody that works with me for me to donate. I personally donate more to individual causes than I do to big charities a lot of the time because it takes a lot of due diligence to know that a charity is a good charity. Like, I know a lot of the work that you do is very good. Like, I've done the toy drive that you did, the world record-holding toy drive.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
Came there, brought some toys. That was awesome. Super fun to watch. That was really cool. Great experience. Strongly recommend everybody does it. But... I was on the advisory board of a nonprofit that puts homeless people in houses. And I got to learn a lot about homeless people, why and how they become homeless, that some of them actually become accustomed to it.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
It's almost like Stockholm syndrome and like it and think we're crazy for having homes, jobs, responsibilities, bills, et cetera. But I think you should always do something that you believe in. And as someone who briefly lived in my car, it's like, all right, I was one step away from that. What would have gotten me there? For me, it was a failed business.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
For some people, it's a divorce or it's drugs. So that really resonated with me. Like these people just need somebody to help them, whether it was donating clothes or, you know, renting rehab beds at, you know, sober living facilities and putting them into those. There were a lot of really cool things. We did a lot of community events, a lot of speaking events, and that was really nice.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
But people should always find a charity they believe in. and do the research to make sure that they're doing good things with the money. Because just donating to Goodwill and saying that you did charity, it's BS. Like when I first made my first million dollars, I had a lot of credit card points. I had like 1.8 million at the time. Later I had almost 15, but at the time I had 1.8 million.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
Yeah, I just didn't spend them for like a year or almost two years, but 1.8 million points. And it was coming up to Thanksgiving and a lot of people were really depressed at that point. It was, you know, it wasn't even a bad economy. They just couldn't go see their families and whatever.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And I just discovered this pocket of people online that were like veterans or just random people that couldn't afford to see their families. So to me, I was like, how many of these people can I use a million points to help? So I took a million points. I think I ended up using 890,000. And I sent people to go see their families. They weren't all like veterans.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
I'm not saying everybody was a real charity case, like that actually needed the charity. Some of them were just people that like couldn't afford to see their families. But I got thank you letters from moms. I've gotten like moms adding me on social media for years to come and messaging me like, Hey, here's a picture of that time. You never forget. You changed our life.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
So every year I try to like find individual causes where not somebody's dog got sick. Go fund me is not like, Oh, my cousins, cousins, best friend from college is sister died at 30 years old. Let me donate. Like, I don't know these people. I want to know where my money's going.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
So when it's somebody who's like, yeah, I haven't seen my kids in two years because I can't afford to go see them and their mother has custody. I want to pay for that guy. For the guy who's like, yeah, my parents are getting really old and they're not going to be around much longer and I can't afford to go there. I want to be that guy's helper.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
So that's my philosophy on charity is just try to help others. And the other thing is I run my companies like a socialist, like a socialist dictatorship. Everybody gets a lot of money. Everybody earns a lot of money. And sometimes that's burned me and I've had people screw me.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
But watching people buy their dream houses, their dream cars, whether it's exotics or, you know, my COO is making seven figures a year and bought a BMW five series. That was his dream car. Cool. Actually, at least it. But whatever people's dreams are, watching them achieve them is really powerful and it makes you feel good.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And so being able to provide those dreams to other people in need, that's kind of where I like to do my charity.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
To me, bury your head in the sand and don't pay attention to it. I try to avoid the news as much as possible. Nobody is writing news to tell you good things. They're writing news to get you to click, to get you to feel something, and it's often a negative emotion. I don't want to be subjected to that. I stay in my little bubble. I keep a tight circle.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
I have good friends and I try to spend good time, meaningful time with people I care about and spend the rest of my time working on projects that I think will either better my life, lives of others, or, you know, just having fun. That to me is how to win. I don't think people should be consumed by what's happening in the market because the reality is you have no control.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And a lot of people think, oh, well, if I just joined this activist group, we'll have control. Nobody cares. Nobody cares about your picket sign. Nobody cares about your opinion. You don't matter. Not even if there's a million of you, you don't matter.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
So stay in the world that you can control with your friends, with your family, do meaningful things that make you happy and try to just continue to get ahead because we live in a capitalist country where the best thing that could ever happen and a weird tangent and an anecdote to end this.
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Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
But when I was really broke and I was living part-time with my grandparents and I ended up living in my car full-time, I was like, man, I've got to figure out a way out of this. And I had a job, and I was doing sales. And I went to work every day. And I worked eight to 12 hours, bell to bell. I would stay late, whatever.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
And people that knew me were like, how do you just work knowing that everything is collapsing on the outside? And for me, it was compartmentalization. And I think it's one of the greatest skills that anybody could have, whether it's as an entrepreneur, as an individual, in a relationship, anywhere.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
Because if you can put aside all the fires that are burning and just put up a wall, you can make it through anything. Most people, they let the fire burn down the house while they're trying to make dinner. And that was the number one skill. So to me, compartmentalize the outside world.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
If people are negative, remove them from your life temporarily or distance yourself, be less responsive, even if it's family or friends. And they will eventually come around and not be so negative, especially when you're on like an entrepreneurial journey or something like that. But I think the number one thing people can do is just shut out the outside world. Don't pay attention to the news.
The Money Mondays
Making Money Online? Here’s What No One Tells You | Dion Pouncil & Brandon Bowsky 💰 EP120
Don't look at the stock market. Even if you have money in it, don't look at it. You put it in there to stash it away and not pay attention. Don't pay attention. If everyone's crying about it, don't even look. It's just going to upset you. What good is that going to do? It's Schrodinger's cat. You don't know if there's money left or not. Don't open it.