Bernd Debusman
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'Peace must not mean a surrender of Ukraine,' Macron says after talks with Trump
It was certainly very cordial and very friendly. It was all smiles as the two kind of greeted each other outside the Oval Office. And there seemed, at least publicly, there seemed to be very little discord between them.
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'Peace must not mean a surrender of Ukraine,' Macron says after talks with Trump
At one point in an Oval Office kind of mini press conference they gave this morning, Macron did jump in and correct what he thought was an incorrect assertion from Donald Trump that Ukraine is paying Europe back for its aid. Macron jumped in and said, no, actually, that's not the case. We're paying for 60% of it. But besides that, it really was very friendly.
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'Peace must not mean a surrender of Ukraine,' Macron says after talks with Trump
At the press conference this afternoon, Trump began by describing their long friendship and the long friendship between France and the United States going back to the kind of beginning of the United States. So it was really quite warm.
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'Peace must not mean a surrender of Ukraine,' Macron says after talks with Trump
Well, they did seem to agree, at least in theory, that Europe and NATO countries should contribute a larger share and a larger bulk of the defense aid to Ukraine. Where there wasn't necessarily an agreement was what the security guarantees for Ukraine would be after the war.
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'Peace must not mean a surrender of Ukraine,' Macron says after talks with Trump
President Trump was quite quiet on that, whereas Emmanuel Macron said that the United States has to play a very substantive part in guaranteeing Ukraine's sovereignty going forward. So there seemed to be a little bit of a disconnect there.
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'Peace must not mean a surrender of Ukraine,' Macron says after talks with Trump
And furthermore, there was also kind of an agreement that this rare earths mineral deal, which the Trump administration so badly wants and has been kind of the subject of back and forth for over a week now. Emmanuel Macron seemed to think that It's actually a good thing.
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'Peace must not mean a surrender of Ukraine,' Macron says after talks with Trump
If this is the way that the United States remains involved in the peace process in Ukraine, then this is a deal that should be welcomed. So there's quite a lot of overlap between the two men this afternoon.
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'Peace must not mean a surrender of Ukraine,' Macron says after talks with Trump
He did. This morning, President Trump said that he believes that President Zelensky could be here at the White House within possibly this week or next week to sign that deal. The Trump administration sees that deal as the first kind of step towards kind of ending the fighting, which Trump said could happen in as few weeks. But, you know, he did say Zelensky would be here very soon.