Batya Ungar-Sargon
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Honestly with Bari Weiss
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When I was reporting my book, Second Class, and traveling around the country interviewing working class people, their top two policy agenda items were they wanted much less immigration, legal and illegal, and much more access to high quality, affordable healthcare.
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And I'm going to say it again, I've said it before, the first party to arrive at that combination of much fewer immigrants, much more affordable healthcare is going to have a ruling majority of for 40 years. They don't distinguish between legal and illegal immigration because what people living on a shoestring budget understand is that labor is like everything else.
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It adheres to the ironclad law of supply and demand. The more you have of it, the cheaper it is. The less you have of it, the dearer it is. Now, as a leftist, it was my understanding that what we were trying to do was get higher wages for the working class. It turns out the Democratic Party didn't agree with me.
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They thought that the point was raise taxes on the rich, take all that money, and treat the working class like the poor and give them stuff. And honestly, working class people, that does not appeal to them.
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But they see competition in working class jobs that don't require a degree coming across the border in the form of 11 million illegal immigrants who are all going to be working in five or six or seven industries, resulting in just collapsing wages in those industries. By the way, people will say those are jobs Americans don't want. It's absolute nonsense.
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There is not a single industry in America that is done a majority by immigrants, legal or illegal, meaning that a majority of every single job is done by native-born Americans. Now, just let's for a minute imagine how that makes them feel to be told by billionaires, this job is beneath the dignity of an American, so I'm going to bring somebody in from Venezuela to do it. So let's set that aside.
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What launched the whole debate was over the Christmas holiday – I don't understand why these people weren't with their families, but they weren't. They were on Twitter. Vivek Ramaswamy wrote a long Twitter thread about how American culture is producing lazy and stupid and mediocre people because Americans are culturally addicted to mediocrity. And Elon Musk joined in –
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retweeted somebody calling American workers retards, and then literally told people to go F themselves in the face because he's going to die on the hill of expanding the H-1B program. And the reason people like me have a problem with that program is,
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is back in the early 2000s when they shipped 5 million good middle class jobs overseas to China and Mexico to build up their middle class, they told people to learn how to code. But now it turns out actually they're going to be importing people to do those coding jobs. So yes, 85,000 H-1B visas a year. There's about half a million, three quarters of a million people who are on H-1B visas
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75% of tech engineers working in Silicon Valley today are foreign born. These are great middle-class jobs when they're done by Americans. But when you import people to do them from India, they do them for about $40,000 a year cheaper. And what that means is it drives down the wages across that industry. So our best and brightest are not now even going into that industry at all.
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So people will say, oh, we're bringing in the best and the brightest. This is a brain drain from the rest of the world. It's nonsense. I mean, half a million people is not the best and the brightest. 30% of people working in STEM are.
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So again, we're talking about just we're importing a cast of indentured servants who are allowed to enter the country, but they have to stay with that employer, which again reduces their wages by another 25%. This is the opposite of everything Trump wants. Trump campaigned on, ran on, and won on. And it's a huge betrayal of his base.
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And I'm really hoping that at some point, you know, Steve Bannon wins this fight and Elon is kicked to the curb before Trump becomes president. Because if he really is about to now betray his entire base over this immigration issue, which is the number one issue as far as they're concerned, it's not going to go very well for the administration.
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We actually have a visa for people who are uniquely talented. We have the 01 visa for exceptional aliens. So we actually have a separate visa for people who are bringing a talent that you cannot get here. What makes me so enraged is that these H-1Bs are more often than not given to people who are totally mediocre. They come from less good schools than Americans in the tech sector.
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They get not as good grades. In fact, American STEM graduates routinely rank higher than people from China, Russia, and India. So they are mediocre compared to our homegrown talent. Plus, why are we not going into the inner city in Appalachia and teaching our people how to do those jobs. People will say, oh, let's just pay people more. We'll tie the visa to the highest paying thing.
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Do you know how much angrier I'm going to be when they do that? That's going to be their solution. It's going to be, let's pay these immigrants even more. And then I'm going to be even angrier. Instead of paying an American $90,000 a year, you're now going to be paying half a million Indians that. And It's, I have nothing against them.
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I'm a quarter Indian myself, you know, but I just, the idea that we do not owe anything to our neighbors while we get rich is disgusting to me. And that is the ideology that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are bringing into the administration through Doge. I'm sorry, but I think that that Doge is just a, it's a cover for the Chinese Communist Party. Whoa, what? Yes, everything. What? Let me explain.
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I will make the case, and then you can tell me why you think this is not true. But I mean, basically, let's look at what it has accomplished so far, okay? The first accomplishment of Elon Musk has been to tank a spending bill, and the total top beneficiary of that action was China because there were limits in the first bill on investments in China that were taken out of the second bill.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
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And I remember thinking to myself when Elon Musk was jumping up and down on stage next to Trump, it's so interesting that Elon Musk whose entire supply chain is in China, who built a showroom for Tesla in the Xinjiang region of China where the Uyghurs are being genocided, that he is being given the green light by Xi Jinping to try to help Donald Trump win.
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Because of course, Xi Jinping would rather the Democrats win. They're much softer on China than Donald Trump is. But look how much China has already gotten for bang for its buck. And Trump's not even in office yet. They've got somebody who has never said a negative word about China. I mean, never. Now is number two to the throne.
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So two things. The first is we are not winning if our neighbors are poor. It's not winning when our GDP goes up and 90% of that goes into Elon Musk's pocket. That is not what winning looks like. Winning is when you have a middle class that is stable, children that are upwardly mobile, who are living in safe neighborhoods, whose parents know where their retirement is coming from.
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You know, like that's what winning looks like. It's not just a GDP number is not winning, but also all of these supposed best and brightest are literally being trained here in the U.S. Like they're coming here, they're paying sticker ticket prices for our universities, and that is how they get fed into the sector. They have no like, this is not like a special talent pool of uniqueness. talent.
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These are people who are getting an education that should be going to Americans who are not getting this education because they don't have those opportunities. They don't have access to them. They're not going to pay the sticker ticket. Like people are getting rich off. This is not what winning looks like. As a nation, we owe something to our neighbors.
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We can't keep lining our pockets with the proceeds of an economy that is an upward transfer of wealth. So let me give you a very specific example.
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Are you both totally comfortable living in a country where someone like Elon Musk fires 4,000 workers to replace them by H-1Bs? No. Is that—so on what—can we all agree that that is dastardly? Yes. Just to get cheaper workers to do the same thing? No argument whatsoever.
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I think Steve Bannon is the most important voice if you want to understand where the Trump base is and where the working class is. So with my cards on the table, I really hope he wins. I don't know if he will. If he doesn't, I will have a very different view of Trump going into this administration. I'm not saying like if Trump doesn't kick Elon Musk to the curb, I won't.
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But if he capitulates and does a 180 on where he used to have this very clear view of the H-1B visas, I will be extremely, extremely vociferously critical of him. I'm not one of these people who can't. I was in it for this.
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I'll just say quickly, I saw very little of it. I did see some of it, but I saw very little of it. The number one victims of mass immigration into the United States have been black Americans who have suffered in massive, massive ways from being replaced by foreign workers. It is verboten to talk about this on the left.
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They call any attempt to stand up for Americans at the expense of non-Americans racism. And so like... I refuse to accept that. Like I will be speaking on behalf of black Americans and working class Americans until the day I die. So I deplore any racism. But this was not about racism. This was not about race.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
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It was uniquely about Indians because they represent a massively disproportionate number of H-1Bs. Again, as somebody who's quarter Indian, you know, I certainly I saw very little of it, even though I was on the lookout for it.
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I don't want to deny that it was there, but it was certainly not, you know, present in any of the many conversations I've heard Steve Bannon have about it, that I've had about it, that the, you know, I've been swimming in these waters doing very little else, talking about very little else since Christmas. And I don't think this is a big part of the movement.
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I don't think it's significant in terms of that it represents why people feel so strongly about this.
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Yeah, I think that's a good way. Yeah.
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People are infuriated, infuriated. I've seen so many people. People have reached out to me personally to say, you know, wow, mask off moment from Elon. I used to admire him. I honestly think Vivek's political aspirations may have – he may have really hurt himself by that long tweet thread about – how Americans are addicted to mediocrity and have a culture of loserdom.
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So I think that this is going to have a really big implication. You know, last time around, at some point, Ann Coulter, who was a huge proponent of Trump, one of the few people who predicted that he was going to win, she really turned on him because she felt that he sold out the controlling the border because basically Wall Street called him and were like, where are our slaves at?
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You're doing too good a job there. And so he eased up some of the border restrictions. This is her narrative. And so she really turned on him. She got very angry. She supported DeSantis in the primary. So it's not like there wasn't sort of pro-business forces trying to influence Trump the first time around. He's much more focused this time around. He is much more intentional.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
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He's very, I mean, he's sort of like very laser focused on the agenda. So it'll be very interesting to see. I cannot predict who's going to win this. I think it's significant that Steve Bannon is talking about it so vigorously. Like, obviously, that signals that Trump, I think, to me, if I had to read that, I would say it signals Trump wants this debate to happen in the public sphere.
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So he can decide, you know, which way to go on it. But I can't say which way it'll end up.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
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Yeah, you're seeing people on the left kind of blaming the climate change issue and people on the right blaming DEI or incompetence. I feel pretty grossed out by both of these trends. I think Leighton Woodhouse really nailed it in a piece he wrote for Newsweek and also in the Free Press article.
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No, just Glenn Greenwald had such a funny point. He pointed out that in the video, Zuckerberg had a whole new wardrobe, like a whole new look. Like he looked he didn't look like a Silicon Valley bro anymore. He looked now like a crypto bro. Like he had the like the T-shirt and the necklace and the one and it was like a whole different. And it's almost like he's now in his next era anymore.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
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And it just reads so false to me. I mean, like, I'm glad that they're doing it, but it's just such, it's just evidence, like you both were saying, like of the vibe shift and nothing more.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
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And just like that private companies, you know, that once like, you know, made their bread and butter off of being hashtag resistance, wokesters are now trying to sort of like tack to the middle because they realize that that's where the money is and that's where the advantage is.
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Like, obviously nobody has any morals in this business, but it's, you know, it really suggests that like people have understood that nobody is buying that earlier version anymore. And we've really fully turned a new page.
Honestly with Bari Weiss
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Barry, I wanted to ask you about this because I feel some type of way to see all the people who called me racist for pointing out that like the real divine America is class. It's not race. All these people called me racist for saying this like five years ago, four years ago, three years ago. And now they're all saying it without a shred of self-reflection.
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Like, oh, maybe all these people's lives we tried to destroy, they actually were saying this. Do you feel resentful about that or you just feel grateful that it's over?
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where he argued that there's just something about the geology of this place that lends itself to these horrific acts of God every half a century, that the land there, you know,
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Instead of doing a prediction, which I'm always wrong about those, so I'll just give you a little insight into something that happened over the weekend, which is I ran an op-ed at Newsweek by Greg Kelly, who's a Newsmax host, which if I tell you that, you would assume that this...
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would be very pro-Pete Hegseth, but actually what he argues is that Pete Hegseth has already shown himself susceptible to being blackmailed because he was blackmailed by this woman who accused him of sexual harassment and assault, et cetera. And the fact that that came in, I think that there are people looking for cover to demur on Pete Hegseth, which I was surprised by.
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So there's a little more pushback than I was expecting on that one. And as far as the other two, You know the person to watch? It's John Fetterman. I mean, talk about the MVP.
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This guy has come out and just had, you know, a spine of steel, meeting Trump, meeting all these people and saying, you know, he said about the Lake and Riley Act, if we can't get seven Democratic senators to vote for this thing, we deserve to lose. Like, just calling all of the truth bombs out there. And I think he had a really nice meeting with RFK Jr., actually, and Pete Hexeth.
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Around the Santa Monica Beach, Pacific Palisades should never have been developed because it was always going to erupt in flames in this way due to the fact that the vegetation grows really lush during the rainy winter months and then dries out and the Santa Ana winds show up in the dry summer months. And so to me, I found that really compelling. I just think it is so hard to imagine...
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So, you know, there might be more Democratic support than we're expecting.
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You know, somebody doing a better job with so much destruction. I don't have any confidence in Karen Bass or in Gavin Newsom. I don't think that they're stars or particularly competent people. But at the same time, nobody's pointing to things that are legitimate as, you know, actual mistakes that would have actually prevented this or... helped the situation.
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From what I've been able to gather, and your listeners should tell me if I'm wrong about this, but it seems like the reason there was no water in the hydrants was not because there is an absence of water for this kind of thing, but because the water pressure was simply failed because they were trying to get all of the water in the city into one place, which
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which is something that is very predictable, but I don't know how you fix for it. So to me, I feel like the politicization of this has been extremely disappointing. But I do think that on the ground, there's been a lot of unity and a lot of coming together, a lot of really moving moments on social media. So I'm trying to focus on those.
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That was my first thought, is this is the end of his political career. I don't see how he survives this. And that sounds like a contradiction with what I opened with, but I don't think it is. It could be that something is just so devastating that your inability to respond to it in a way that's compelling ends your political career, even though there would have been very little you could have done.
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Obviously, like if DeSantis had been in charge of L.A., I think people would have felt it. like there was more competence going on around them. Because I agree, of course, with both of you that the contract in California has been broken and that there's a huge crisis in trust in public institutions. I just think that this was an act of God and was so devastating for these ecological reasons.
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that it seems sort of almost unfair. You know, the Karen Bass being in Ghana, that was an unforced error that led to this perception that the people in charge were not worthy of the trust of the public. And they have earned that in a million different ways.
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I certainly, through all of my research, have not been able to come up with a better plan for how they could have handled this, but it may sink their careers. I think that that's very likely.
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I want to say something really quickly because I really want to hear what Brianna has to say about that. 20 people have died, I believe. Is that correct?
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24 people so far have died, and we mourn every single one of them. Horrific tragedy. Most of them were seniors and disabled people who couldn't get out. It's horrifying. When you look at the scope of the damage, people were informed. People got out.
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I mean, if you had asked me, looking at that landscape, that apocalyptic, post-apocalyptic, burnt-out landscape, how many people I would have thought would have died? And again, God forbid I'm not minimizing these horrific deaths. I would have expected it to be in the hundreds, if not the thousands. So I do think that there's a point of view.
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And we're talking about, I mean, you think about the neighborhoods like the Pacific Palisades. I mean, I've been reading a lot about this. A lot of these towns are built. There's one road going into an area where 2,500 people live. The cars, they had to flee their cars and survived fleeing their cars because the trees on either side of the road were engulfed in flames.
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So really miraculous survival of many, many people. And again, God forbid not to undermine the deaths, but it does seem like people's lives were very much saved. There was a lot of property damage. And of course, that's terrible. But I just wanted to make that point.
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Because I think a lot of the donor base that would have supported him are now homeless. You can either sort of really upset the middle class of the Democratic Party or you can upset the sort of rich donor class. And I think a lot of the people who would have been that support against the bulwark of the sort of middle class and working class neighborhoods that went up in flames
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I could also make the argument.
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I think that the pessimistic view of Trump's foreign policy is missing the unbelievably optimistic and powerful strength that it's going to bring to our neighbors who are poor. Like this, we're in a golden era for America. And yeah, that involves less policing of borders halfway across the world. What it involves more of is having prosperous neighbors
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who are not totally broke so that your children can play with kids in the park who are not going home to broken families in crime-ridden neighborhoods. This is an amazing moment. But help me understand what that has to do with what we're seeing. Let me tie the knot. Let me bring this back to Trump's foreign policy.
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So when Marco Rubio was sitting for his confirmation hearings, he said that Donald Trump had charged him with asking three questions before every single decision he makes as Secretary of State. Does this make the United States stronger? Does this make the United States more prosperous? Does this make the United States safer?
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Und zu sagen, dass es pessimistisch ist, zu sehen, dass das als negativ ist, dass unsere Foreign Policy von dem, was unsere Nachbarn besser macht, entscheidend sein sollte, zu sehen, dass das in einem negativen Licht, denke ich, eine Wahl ist, die von Eliten gemacht wird,
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who have very much benefited from the post-war international liberal world order that has been so disastrous for America's working class and underclass and hinterlands and all these communities that we've been talking about. And Ukraine is such a perfect example of this. It's so funny, like, the fact that Russia is rejoicing, the fact that Russia wants to be close to us...
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You know, 20 years ago, 15 years ago, 10 years ago, this would have been seen as a great thing. This would have been seen as something to celebrate. Someone that we have falsely cast as an adversary. Remember, Barack Obama thought it was laughable to think of Russia as an adversary of the United States rather than a potential ally against China.
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You know, someone who we have falsely seen as an adversary wants to be our ally. This is an amazing thing. Instead what the elites want to do is sit here and have the moral high ground over a border dispute that we have prolonged a million lives dead because we have funded it.
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If Hitler had not become Hitler, appeasement would not have that same thing, that same stench to it. The problem with World War II was they were trying to appease Hitler. It's not like the act of appeasement in general. And Putin is not Hitler, I'm sorry. I think we can all agree on that. That's just an overblown comparison. He's not trying to commit genocide.
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I mean, I don't think he's trying to commit genocide. Xi Jinping kann davon absolut nichts lernen, weil der Niveau der Schwierigkeit, der Fakt ist, dass China ein Gegner der Vereinigten Staaten ist und der Fakt ist, dass Russland es nicht ist, was sowas ist, was beide Republikaner und Demokraten bis Donald Trump... Du denkst nicht, dass Russland ein Gegner der Vereinigten Staaten ist?
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Not only do I not think that, George W. Bush didn't think that and Barack Obama didn't think that. The only people who started thinking that was after Hillary Clinton became convinced that Putin got Trump elected.
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Let me just make one more point. We don't have to wonder how the American people feel about it. We just had an election in which one person said, I'm going to keep funding this war. And one person said, we're done funding this war. We're getting out. And that person won a mandate to rule. And furthermore, we have polling now that shows that 78% of Americans want a negotiated end to this war now.
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So we know exactly how 78% of Americans want this to go down. And in a democracy, that is what's supposed to happen.
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I think they're trying to become our friends, yes, and I think that's a great thing.
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Well, I think, first of all, it's very funny to talk about how the most basic moral principle is democracy and then when 78% of your fellow Americans are asking for something to be like, no, I know better, we should be doing something else. But that seems to be the Democrats' position on this war. Yeah.
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You know, like what we're seeing with Donald Trump is like the American people actually getting what they actually voted for. It is a historic revolutionary moment. We should all be jumping for joy. Like winning is just beyond. And we're all sitting here saying, you know. You're jumping high enough for everybody. I am. I am.
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You know, these high-minded ideals, we're going to export democracy, but when our fellow Americans vote for something we don't like, screw them. We're going to use the deep state to implement the views that we don't want. Okay, sorry, I just had to get that off my chest. But Donald Trump has attracted trillions of dollars of investment in manufacturing in the month that he's been in office.
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Every week he brings in another person to commit another 500 billion dollars.
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What Apple just did, you're seeing this across the country. It's happening every day. You might not be watching for it, but it is definitely happening. Barry, your question is very funny to me.
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As the person who I think on this call has been called a Putin puppet most frequently for advocating for an end to the war along the lines that it is going to end ultimately along, only I was saying it a million young men ago when a million young men were still alive and $350 billion of American taxpayer dollars were still in this country. You know,
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The question is not, you know, people act like, oh, we hate Trump because Putin helped him and Putin is evil. It's literally in the Gemara, we would call it Pumfakert. Like it's the exact opposite, as we would say in Aramaic. The reason that they hate Putin. It just rolls off the tongue. Yes, go on. There was no better word for it.
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You know, the reason that they cannot stand Putin, that Putin became enemy number one, a Hitler-like person for insisting on a ratification of the status quo before invading Ukraine, which he did for three months. All he asked for was a ratification of the status quo. The reason that became Hitler-like behavior was because they became convinced that without Putin, Trump would not have won.
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Without Putin, our neighbors would not have gotten what they voted for. There's just a fundamental... Hatred of actual democracy in practice from the elites. And what was amazing about the reason, my husband kept saying, why did Trump have to yell at him though? He should have realized what was happening, stood up, said meeting over and walked out. And I said, I'll tell you why.
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Because for 10 years, the media has lied and lied and lied on Trump. Everything he did. It was on the side of Zelensky. It was on the side of the elites. It was on the side of the deep state. And the entire Biden administration, Blinken, and all of those guys came from that same Obama world that had a total lock on the media.
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If we had not witnessed Zelensky undermining the deal with our own eyes, we never would have believed it. Because Trump would have told us it happened and we would have been like, whatever. Because, yes, Zelensky was alone in that room, but he had the media...
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who was also in the room, was totally on his side, except that one guy from, you know, One America News or whatever, who asked why he wasn't wearing his suit. So, you know, in a way, yes, he was alone because Trump had his administration with him. He had Besant, he had Vance, he had Rubio. But what was amazing was that our administration...
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All of those people around Trump are working for us now, not for the plaudits of the corrupt ruling class embodied by the media. And that's what we're really seeing here is the triumph of democracy. Wow, you're so subtle. It's really hard to know what you feel about.
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Wir brauchen eine Antwort. Barry, wenn du sagst, dass du es gewohnt hast, dass amerikanische Außenpolitik ein moralisches Beleidigungsprinzip hat, hast du recht. Trump hat das mit der Frage der Interessen verwendet. Aber für so lange haben wir unsere Interessen verweigert.
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I think Zelensky can easily rescue this. He needs to show up and say, I am planning to sign this as is or just sign it. Trump is done negotiating. He's done talking about this. And we know that Zelensky has already turned down the agreement three times. So he yelled at Scott Besant in Kiev. He refused to sign it in Munich. And then, of course, the blow up at the White House.
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So if he shows up and says, I'm in, I'm signing it as it is, I'm ready to go. Er kann trotzdem einen Deal bekommen, aber es gibt keinen Weg, dass Donald Trump das noch länger negotieren wird.
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So, first of all, the first 40 minutes and the last 10 minutes in which the blow-up happened, it's night and day, right? And you can tell which commentators did not bother to watch the whole thing. For example, Trump actually defended Zelensky's sweatsuit during the...
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Es gab einen wunderschönen Moment, als ein Trump-freundlicher Journalist sagte, warum kannst du nicht einen Schuh anziehen? Und ich erinnere mich, ich wundere mich, ob das Trump auch bedroht. Aber fünf Minuten später kam Trump und stand für ihn auf. Es war ein sehr... Er hat sich in den letzten 40 Minuten in einem leisen, ruhigen Meeting befasst.
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It seemed to me of the type that is usually reserved for a NATO ally, meaning that he was undermining the whole point of this economic agreement, which is supposed to be instead of NATO membership, instead of continued US military support, which is extremely important to Donald Trump to end.
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And so, you know, when you see all of that, and Zelenskyy twice in the meeting actually rolled his eyes when Donald Trump started to say, and you know, if I had been president, it would have never happened. You know, Trump likes to say that. He literally rolled his eyes. And at that point, I started to get very, very upset and uncomfortable. The idea that a vassal would come
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to a superpower with that level of arrogance and that level of willingness to offend. You know, J.D. Vance then did ask a provocative question. He made a provocative statement, at which point Zelensky just unleashed and allowed himself to truly disrespect the office, I felt. And what Trump did in that moment was he stood up for the American people and the American taxpayer against
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ein internationales Fleißen, nicht nur von der Ukraine, sondern aus meiner Sicht von der gesamten postwar-liberalen Ordnung, die die amerikanische Arbeitsklasse wirklich der Vorteil der globalen Eliten geboren hat. Und es war absolut erstaunlich, dass Trump nicht auf seine eigene Ebene wütend war. Trump war für uns wütend.
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Und ich kann nicht sagen, dass ich jemals einen Präsidenten so mächtig als ich in diesem Moment stand habe.
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First of all, to set that up as the standard for leading, I think is so unfair. But also, how could you say he's not a leader? This is a person who walked into a political climate in which there was a handshake agreement between both sides and said, I'm taking on both of you. I don't care at all. Like everything he's doing. Marco Rubio getting 99 votes to zero confirmed.
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I mean, talk about a leadership position. Picking someone for secretary of state who could get total consensus from both sides. Come on. I mean, that is leadership personified. And we're going to see that again.
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I mean, talk about leading. I do think that this is where most Americans are at and that this is an attempt to do a kind of reset. It does not preclude having the kinds of conversations Brianna wants to have down the road.
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But in terms of practical application, I think this is a good step towards getting a lot of the stuff that you actually do want, Brianna, like protecting women's spaces, protecting lesbian spaces. I mean, that all has to start with a definition. And I do think that that... definition does track clearly with how most Americans feel.
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You know, the polling shows that the vast majority of Americans want trans people to be protected from discrimination in housing and in the workforce. And I'm talking 80 plus percent of Americans want that. But the numbers really, really drop when it comes to things like trans women in women's sports. Women's prisons, you know, protecting women's spaces.
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Women also have rights that I think we could probably agree on 90 percent of the cases. In some instances, the trans agenda has actually taken away some of those rights for women. So, you know, in terms of saying, you know, drawing a line in the sand and saying, you know, as the federal government, we want to start correcting for this overreach situation. That has to start with a definition.
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And that definition, I think, does track pretty clearly with how most Americans feel about it. So I think that this probably was met with relief, not just by a lot of Republicans and conservatives, but by a lot of Democrats and a lot of liberals who have felt like they can't say how they feel about this. And yeah, this is a moment, I think, of real leadership.
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Pacha, what do you make of this, EO? I was listening to Peter talk and thinking to myself, man, this Trump guy sounds like quite the leader, you know? Six decades of terrible policy that we all agree has resulted in like, like really awful outcomes. You know, the demoralization of minority communities. Yeah.
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among other things so yeah i think it's great i think that people let's say you're trump and you want to come in and you want to say like there are all these like very symbolic issues that have helped people see why we need to change we need to get away from the left-wing you know crazy radical policies it's very hard to sort of put meat on that and say like okay how do we actually make that happen like yeah we're all sick of like the culture of dei right the feeling of like
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you know, that woke culture. How do you put meat on that? How do you create policy that, you know, furthers the aim of getting us back to that American dream? It's not a simple thing to do. And it takes a lot of leadership and a willingness to say, look, here's our first shot. Here's, you know, shot across the bow. We're going to try this. We're going to try that. So I think it's pretty cool.
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And I think it's significant. And again, as with the gender EO, I think this is going to resonate with a lot of people who were Democrats, you know, two years ago, five years ago, 10 years ago, 20 years ago, maybe people who didn't even vote for Trump, but who feel like, you know, the left has gone too far. And I can't even tell you how many people have said to me, I didn't vote for Trump.
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I couldn't bring myself to vote for him, but I'm very glad he won. I mean, my reaction to them is always the same. You coward. You You made other people carry that decision for you. You refused to put your money where your mouth was and just pull the trigger for the person you thought was going to actually fix the country. But this is what that looks like, I think, in effect.
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Honestly, I'm not so sure that this is going to lose, but I think the reason this was... so smart was because my understanding is I'm not a legal scholar, but that the 14th Amendment was a response to the Dred Roberts case where basically the Supreme Court had ruled that Black people are not citizens.
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And the 14th Amendment was specifically in order to address that and say, yes, our Black population were brought here against their will, but they are citizens of this country. And the reason that I think this was such a genius move is because it echoes that exact theme.
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thing that happened, which is this thing that was supposed to protect Black people was then co-opted in order to protect illegal immigrants.
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And of course, that's the history of the Democratic Party over the last 50 years, is that, you know, it's Black Americans who have paid the heaviest price for mass migration, you know, to the tune of, you know, 40% decrease in wages, 10% increase in mass incarceration. I the breakdown of the family. You could connect to this downward pressure on wages, et cetera.
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So I think in that sense, it's very poetic. And if you notice during his inaugural speech, Trump specifically thanked Black voters and Hispanic voters for turning out for him and said he was not going to forget it.
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And if you look at the polling, Black Americans, Black Democrats are the most anti-immigrant of all the demographics because, of course, they've paid the highest price for mass migration. So in that sense, I think this is a very poetic way
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way to say, look, we are going to put an end to this thing where every group comes and claims the mantle of the civil rights movement and effectively downgrades the status further of Black Americans, starting with this initial amendment that was meant to protect the civil rights of Black Americans.
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Can I just say quickly, though, like that's literally how people talked about Trump saying we're going to build the wall in 2016, which is now a very, very popular proposal. Like that thing, he's gone too far, was literally how people in the elites were talking about things that were appealing to his base and
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in a really big way from the beginning that we now are all sitting here being like, well, of course, obviously, most Americans want this. Of course, most Americans now want an America first approach to the southern border. Well, Peter, you know, that was like paid for in blood to get you to admit that, to get Democrats and liberals to admit that.
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Like Trump literally had to be indicted 91 times and almost killed twice to get Democrats to be able to utter that sentence. So he is often ahead of the curve when it comes to things, especially when it comes to taking the pulse of the people.
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I mean, he literally won every swing state and the popular vote running on these exact issues. He did not. He was not shy about admitting this. And he got the popular vote like these are popular ideas. The movement has grown way beyond just like the MAGA base. It's just the elites who don't want to get on board. And that's OK.
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I think this whole like this new like Manifest Destiny 2.0, like people like it. I mean, people vote on this stuff. You know, I don't know how important this is, but, you know, people are it gives people a sense of optimism, you know, a sense of like we're going places, a sense of like we're back, baby.
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I've heard that as well from nutcases. All right. So I think the reason Trump did a 180 on this, I agree with everything Brianna just said. I think it's a huge, huge national security concern. I think it's destroying the minds of our children. We know kids have been pushed to commit suicide based on stuff they saw on TikTok.
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The Chinese won't allow their own children to use this app, which is like, OK, number one, like do not allow anything into your country that your enemy will not allow their children to look at. At first, I thought Trump, you know, did this 180 on TikTok because, you know, he used it. He you know, he got a lot of support from young people, blah, blah, blah.
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But yesterday during the press conference that he had in the Oval Office. He talked about it in a different way. You could see like it seemed to be really authentic how he was talking about it. Basically, what he said was this app is worthless if we ban it and it's worth a trillion dollars if we allow it here to be sold to an American. You know, his. His eyeballs just became dollar signs.
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And I think he just can't stand the idea of giving up half of a trillion dollars and thinks, look, if an American has it, an American owns it, an American controls it, has a controlling stake in the company, 51% stake in the company, that's just free money for us because it's already here and people are already using it. When he said that, I was like, oh, that's what he's in it for.
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Somebody told him it's worth a trillion dollars. China will never allow it to be sold because the whole purpose of TikTok is to be- Or they'll allow it to be sold to someone who's potentially compromised. Exactly, to Elon Musk. Exactly. That's another thing to bear in mind.
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Anybody that China allows to acquire 51% of TikTok, that person is somebody that the Chinese Communist Party believes has their interests at heart more than the Americans. And so that is a very important thing to keep in mind as well. I totally appreciate that point, Barry. So, you know, from that point of view, somebody has to convey this to Trump. This is extremely important.
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I will just say I feel a little bit like really upset at the idea that the Supreme Court could have ruled on something, that Congress could have passed a law and two consecutive presidents could just say, we're not going to enforce this law. Exactly. That's very upsetting. And we should all be very upset about that.
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It is both the case that the Democrats pointing out this oligarchy are complete and utter hypocrites. They were totally happy to have these people running their party as long as they were giving to the Democrats. It is both the case that the Democrats are the party of the rich, that the vast majority of Americans who are rich are now Democrats.
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And it is also the case that seeing those tech oligarchs at the inauguration allowed to bring their, you know, sluttily dressed wives when, you know, the cabinet members were not, you know, sitting there amongst the Trump family and cabinet like that. That is a chilling image. Now, Steve Bannon had a great line. He was like, these people were there as trophies. OK, they were Trump's trophies.
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They don't have any power. They're not going to have any influence. They're hung on the wall to show how far he's come and how he can sort of, you know, get anybody to show up at his shindig. They did pay the million dollar, you know, ticket fee to get there. I guess after you give a million dollars to the inaugural fund, you know, you're kind of guaranteed a ticket even when everybody else is.
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can't bring their wives or whatever because it was moved indoors. I feel a little bit nervous about it. Trump has done a 180 on H-1B visas. I cannot believe that this is somehow divorced from Elon Musk's feelings on the subject. I'm very worried about the influence of China through these people who all have very close ties to the CCP.
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But then again, you know, Barry, you yourself did an interview with Sam Altman, who I believe has beef with Elon Musk. And he was in the Oval Office yesterday being, you know, a new trophy for Trump. Right. So, you know.
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And I guess if I could just put a pin on this, which is that, you know, if Trump is willing to play them against each other, like no individual person can have that much power. Right. I mean, this was really a slap in the face to Elon Musk to be like, OK, look, I'm now, you know, this is my new BFF now. Right. Vivek is out. Right. He's been kicked out of Doge.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene is now put in Doge. You will not find a better, you know, more America first person than Marjorie Taylor Greene. So I really do think, you know, Steve Bannon, you know, he said that he would have gotten rid of Elon Musk's influence by inauguration. And there are some signs that Steve Bannon has been successful.
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It's too soon to tell. I'm watching very closely. You know, the H-1B thing was evidence to your argument, right? Because he yesterday was asked about that during the presser and he said he supports them. And before he had said he opposed them very strenuously. But, you know, it really remains to be seen. TikTok, right? China, immigration.
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These are all issues that are very, very important and in which the tech bro oligarchy is at odds with the MAGA base. So these are all going to be issues that we should all be watching very closely to see in which direction Donald Trump is going to head and to see who has the power in this relationship. Is Trump being led by the tech bros or are they being led by him?
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I just think he has so little to gain at this point to squander his legacy to curry favor with them. He needs nothing from them at this point. He's not going to run again. So he needs nothing from them. He loves to bring people into the office and say, look, I raised $500 billion for AI plants that we're going to build here.
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And they were promising yesterday that they're going to be able to screen people for cancer and create cancer vaccines out of AI. I mean, he loves to do this. But at the end of the day, they need him a lot more than he needs them. But I am open to the idea that it's going to go in the other direction. I'm watching closely.
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I was expecting J.D. Vance's take on things, that it would sort of be case by case and that anybody who hit or assaulted a police officer would not get a pardon. 16 people did not get pardons. They had their sentences commuted. So from that point of view, I think From the Trump team's point of view, they were going case by case.
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Yeah, I think I have like more credibility to defend him on this issue than anybody else as someone who's like literally can't stop criticizing him on everything. I will say when AOC came out, so the ADL even came out, the ADL, like one of the wokest American Jewish organizations came out and was like, we get that people are upset, not a Heil Hitler.
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There were people who they felt what they did was too extreme to get a pardon. I would have preferred that the standard that J.D. Vance laid out be the one that they followed. But I think the way they're thinking about it is, first of all, Biden came out with these utterly egregious preemptive pardons and family pardons literally 15 minutes before the inauguration of Donald Trump.
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And AOC literally said to the ADL, like, you've lost all credibility. And she was like, you're working for them now. And I was like, is them the Nazis? Did AOC just say that the ADL is working for the Nazis? I couldn't stop cracking up about it. And I thought it was so funny. But to me, what's amazing is 10 years ago, this would have been a story that everybody would have
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believed anybody who defended him would have been facing calls to get fired, would have been called a Nazi by association, would have been attempted to get canceled. For the next five years, anytime they tweeted something, there would be a thousand leftists in their replies being like, you're a Nazi defender. So and right now we are all in agreement that they are the laughingstock. I
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through exactly what you're talking about, Brianna, the supply of instances of Nazism on the right just simply far, far underperforms the outrageous demand from the left who have nothing else to offer the American people. And I think that this is like, I have such a relief that I'm literally laughing about it, that we're not back in 2016.
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Batya? I think it was a feint for the Panama Canal, which is what he's really after, so I agree with Peter.
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And so I think they felt that a little bit more leeway. If you look at who Biden pardoned, it was all of these very well-off elites of his party and his side and his family, as opposed to the people Trump pardoned. These are the kind of You know, the rabble of his side, you know, these are not people who are, you know, in the elite. So there's a real split screen there.
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Batya, favorite look? Ivanka coming out in the Audrey Hepburn, Sabrina Givenchy, of course. I will also draw your attention to Melania's gorgeous navy blue. I believe they were Manolo's, her daytime look. She wore those from 7.30 in the morning until after 6 p.m. Just God bless her.
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Like, that's insane. It was really spectacular. The hats, you know, I wear hats to shul every Shabbos, so I was very in it for the hats. But definitely the Givenchy, I think, was the winner.
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And also, I think they thought, you know, the point Trump was trying to make with these pardons is that the justice system was weaponized against him and his supporters. And so to make that statement that we do not take seriously anything that came out of that DOJ process. They prefer to go with this more blanket approach than the case by case approach. I don't know how big of a mistake that was.
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Like I said, my preference would have been for the case by case J.D. Vance version. But I honestly don't think anybody's going to be talking about this in a week. I do think what Biden did in terms of pardoning was so utterly egregious and is going to become a massive albatross around the neck of his party in a way that these really aren't for Donald Trump.
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I think people are very happy about it. They did feel like the overzealousness and the weaponization of justice, that was a big deal for the people who are sort of the real base, like the people who've been like the Trump OGs, the people who've been with him since like 2015, you know? Not like the Vivek camp, but like the 2016 Trump. Or the Batyonger Sargon camp. Right, right.
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The people who were really there from the beginning. I do think that what Biden did was so much worse because of the precedent that it sets. Like here you had, like you said, Barry, the Supreme Court weighing in and saying and ratifying this idea that there was an overzealousness here.
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This was clearly part of an attempt to criminalize the personhood of Donald Trump and his supporters in ways that I think none of us would support. As opposed to what Biden did, which is to preemptively, to say there is literally nothing that the Democrats could find out that Dr. Fauci did, that they would deem worthy of prosecution or even inquiry, which sets such a different standard.
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I mean, every single person on January 6th was convicted. They had a trial. We know what they were accused of. So I think like holding these side by side, I think one is markedly worse. And again, I'm not saying that as like an endorsement of, you know, pardoning people who hit cops. But I do think that this had a sort of symbolic power in terms of saying to the base, like, look, you matter now.
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You matter to me and I'm going to have your back.
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Yeah, of course I do. I just think Trump is being judged as if he is certainly going to do what Joe Biden just got away with actually doing. It's very rare to have Democrats like you, Brianna, who are honest enough to say that does not feel right. That does not feel American about Joe Biden's actions when he spent the last four years prosecuting his political opponent.
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So the impression, the certainty that Democrats have that Donald Trump is about to engage in this kind of weaponization of the justice system comes from the precedent set by their own side, which they failed and continue to fail to denounce. So pardon me if I don't take that very seriously.
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You know, it's sort of like, you know, setting fire to a house and then demanding, you know, that the fire department be, you know, beefed up because certainly there's going to be
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more fires right like that's the thing that bothers me is that the democrats refused to denounce it when joe biden was doing it and now they are justifying totally un-american behaviors in the certainty that donald trump is going to do what they refused to condemn when it was their own side by the way i don't think donald trump is going to do it but i'm not going to promise that we're going to keep having this conversation we'll see what he does
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I don't think he's bent on vengeance. He keeps saying our success will be our retribution. I think he's very laser focused on creating a great economy. And that's really the thing that he really wants. But the idea that somehow it's justified to destroy the norms in the name of protecting the side that destroyed norms from somebody who might then destroy the norms.
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Like I just I find that to be morally vacuous. But yes, I do understand why people feel that way.
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I think that's just total nonsense. It's like saying, now that we set this thing in motion, now that we beat you up, oh, now we're calling a truce. First of all, I think that's like, so it's such an unfair standard to set. You are not a leader unless you... Accept a truce after we beat you up and punched you in the face a billion times.
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The Media’s Betrayal of the American Public
That should make a lot of sense to all of us. That is what power does. It expands itself and it protects itself. That is why the fourth estate, the media, is so important because its job is to look at the natural way that power operates and to hold power to account in the name of the American people who do not have the same access to the people in power.
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And here is the thing that is so galling about the media's defense of Joe Biden. It's that when it comes to Donald Trump, They are very good at holding power to account. In fact, they are too good at it. They overstep, they over-criticize. They won't say a single positive thing about him.
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And so they are deeply inaccurate in the portrayal they give the American people of Donald Trump, which is of course why they've lost so much credibility. It's because they cast themselves as the resistance, but only in one direction. The huge scandal here is not just that the media covered for Joe Biden, a person in power.
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It's not just that they made themselves the handmaidens of power rather than having an adversarial relationship with power. It's that the media... by and large, was revealed to have the same interests as one political party, the Democratic Party. And the reason for that is not just because the media is by and large liberal and left-leaning. It's because the media is part of the elites.
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The majority of American journalists have degrees from fancy universities. They're in the top 10%. They live in the same neighborhoods as the politicians and the millionaires that they're supposed to be covering fairly. Their children go to the same schools as the rich people in this country who have the most power. And so their economic interests...
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are aligned with those of the Democratic Party, which now caters to the wealthy. So that's why Joe Biden's decline was very much in their interest to hide, because Donald Trump now represents the working class, and it is his policies that represent a threat to
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to the hegemony of the elites, both from a cultural point of view, a political point of view, but most importantly, an economic point of view. That's the story here. And now that Joe Biden has no power anymore and can't hurt them, now that he is a cancer-ridden, old, senile man, they are lining up to kick him
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acting like somehow they deserve credit for speaking truth to power now that he no longer has any more power. And to me, that is the worst part about this, the godlessness here of humiliating the person that they protected because now he's powerless to defend himself against them. And that also is a very important piece of this story.
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I honestly have not seen him getting a lot of plaudits. I have seen wall-to-wall contempt. I've seen a lot of that meme of the guy in the hot dog suit, you know, pointing to the hot dog car that crashed into the store and saying, we're all looking for the guy who did this, right? Um...
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The people lining up to now humiliate President Biden in these interviews are not doing so because they think that this book is going to be hard on the Democrats. They're doing so because they believe that this book is their best chance at laundering the reputation of the party. It is a performance art of accountability like so much else in the Democratic Party right now.
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They're hoping that voters will look at this and say, oh, look, they're actually trying to do a mea culpa when what they're actually trying to do is scapegoat Joe Biden for their own crimes, both the crimes of the cover up and the criminal agenda that they enacted, whether it was opening the border.
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A huge scandal in which 12 million illegal immigrants invaded the country, or whether it was the illegal student loan forgiveness, or the Green New Deal aspects of the Inflation Reduction Act, right? All of these things were giveaways to rich leftist elites in real economic terms.
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An upward transfer of wealth from the working class who is struggling to the elites who are very wealthy and now control over 60% of the GDP, right? Donald Trump represents the opposite of that. He represents that spigot being turned in the opposite direction. That's what tariffs and controlling the border are all about.
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It is a free market redistribution of wealth to the hardest working Americans from the elites, which is why they were so desperate to stop him and so desperate to protect Joe Biden at all costs. So to me, this book is a confession. The original sin is the sin of the Democratic Party, but really of the media who protected them instead of doing their jobs.
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And there's one question they need to answer for us to ever take them seriously again. And they can't and they haven't. And that question is, what are you going to do differently going forward?
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Thank you so much for having me. It's always an honor to be here with you.
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To stop what happened here, which was a scandal utterly fueled by contempt for the working class, contempt for conservatives, contempt for right wing media, all of whom knew this was happening, could see it with their own eyes and who were silenced by the liberal legacy media. What are you going to change in your campaign?
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character to stop letting yourself think you are so much smarter than everybody else when all you're doing is protecting your own interests. What are you going to do to prevent that scene in which Jake Tapper mocks Laura Trump, humiliates her, chastises her for pointing out the truth that he was unwilling to admit at that time?
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It's really the question that they refuse to answer, which is, why did you get this wrong when the rest of the American people knew what was happening? Why did you get it wrong? And that is the question they don't have an answer to, because the answer is very simply, they are aligned with the Democratic Party. And until that breaks, the media is worthy of nothing but our contempt in return.
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I'll give you an example, which is my best way of answering this, which is when there was a was it the director or the chief producer of 60 Minutes recently stepped down and I saw that headline. And he said he felt that there was, you know, he was not being able to do his job.
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And before I read the article, I thought to myself, oh, surely he is trying to sort of come back to the center to give the president a fair shake, which, of course, doesn't mean protecting him from criticism. But admitting when he does good things, having a respect for the people who voted for him.
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You know, surely he's trying to sort of drag his program back to an honest representation of journalism. And there's all this pushback from within, like, no, you can't do that. We only cater to the left. And I thought, oh, interesting. You know, there's the tide is turning. And then I clicked on the article. No. It was the exact opposite.
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He was stepping down because his higher ups were demanding that he be a little bit more fair to the president. And this was, of course, unacceptable and unbearable to him. And the fact that this was covered as an act of bravery rather than an
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act of the very problem with our journalism, which is that our journalists think they're so much smarter than everybody, and they have an utter contempt and hatred of the American people, the American normie, the average working class American. That tells you everything you need to know about the media right now.
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They're incapable of self-correction because they have the same profile as the elites, and that powers within them a deep contempt for the everyman who is actually the person they're supposed to be working for and towards.
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Thank you so much for having me. God bless you and all of your listeners.
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From my point of view, this is first and foremost a media scandal because it is in the nature of power to hold on to itself, to expand itself, to protect itself. It's not surprising at all that Joe Biden's inner coterie, his family, his cabinet were protecting him from the revelations that would have ended his presidency if everything was working well, that he was declining mentally.
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Thank you so much for having me, Mark.
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So overall, when I experienced Joe Biden over the last, I would say, three years, I had these sort of competing emotions within me. There was a part of me that was angry, both at him and at the elites who were clearly pushing an unsustainable, embarrassing, and undignified situation. But there was a part of me, Mark, and I'm curious if you had this as well,
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that found it almost unbearable to watch an elderly person who had devoted his life to service, however you judge that service, just be ritually humiliated in such a big way on such a big stage. And so him faltering in physical ways, very much complicated emotionally, my ability to see him and judge him through a more intellectual lens in terms of the failures of the policy.
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And so watching this view interview, I agree with you physically, mentally, he was much better than in many of the appearances we have seen, which sort of freed me up emotionally to hear what he was actually saying about
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which brought back a lot of the anger of the failures, both the policy failures, but also the spiritual failure to see himself as the president of the whole country, including the president of people who had voted for Donald Trump. I think that was a central failure of his presidency, which I felt freed up this morning to remember and get angry about.
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The fact that in the year of our Lord, 2025, Democrats are still letting themselves get away with the myth that the country is racist and sexist is a large part of why they lost. It had nothing to do with her identity, of course.
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It was the fact that she was an unbelievably weak candidate having to defend a president who had opened the border, which is something now even Democrats can admit was a huge mistake and goes to the heart of their not just branding problem, not just messaging problem. but their policy problem, the fact that they have lost touch with what it means to be working class.
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They have lost touch with the fact that immigration for working class people is an economic kitchen table issue. Elites fundamentally struggle with understanding that because Mass migration puts money in their pockets because they are able to employ people who demand half the amount of wages. But those wages would have been a working class person's wages.
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So what the Democrats did to sort of mask this as an alibi for the fact that they were enriching themselves at the expense of their working class neighbors was they developed this language around race and immigration where it's racist to want to have a secure border. Or it's sexist to want men to have access to good manufacturing jobs, right?
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And the fact that he is still out there pushing that mythology until they can understand that that's not just false. It's not just a turnoff, but it gets to the heart of why they lost the working class, the multiracial working class, by the way, this time around. They're not going to be competitive.
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And do you take any responsibility for Trump's reelection?
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It definitely is. I have to say, though, I also have a real problem with a lot of these Democrats who sort of knifed him after trying to push him through when they thought nobody else could tell what was going on. You know, now suddenly having their come to Jesus moment. There's something about that that really irks me. You know, the same people.
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who were willing to hide from the American people when they had access to how bad the situation was, when it became clear during the debate, then sort of stabbing him in the back and now trying to say, well, we knew all along, or he was the reason, or he's the problem. There's something about that that I find to be Just so deeply offensive and horrifying.
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So even the Democrats now admitting it, I find myself not wanting to say, oh, finally, you came around. I find myself wanting to say, like, how dare you now, like, act like he was the problem. He never would have gotten this far if not for his enablers.
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Yeah, definitely. And the fact that he and so many of the other elites had so little faith in her as a candidate, I think made a lot of people feel some type of way about the switcheroo that ultimately ended up happening. I think there are a lot of people who feel like the better path would have been for him to simply say, you know what, I'm going to pull this through. I got in this long.
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I'm not going to take away from the 14 million people who voted for me, their franchise effectively, and put in somebody just because that is where the elite consensus ended up. And so if we get Donald Trump, we'll get Donald Trump.
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And I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that the Democrats, again, to avoid dealing with their failures, to cater to the working class, their working class base, the way that they allowed themselves to become convinced that Trump was this unique threat, and then painted themselves into a corner where they call him Hitler every day, effectively calling 80 million Americans Nazis, right?
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People willing to vote for Hitler. So again, their hatred of him, to me, seems to be almost a reflection of their unwillingness to allow the electorate to choose against them, to vote against them. A fundamental unwillingness to accept that what they are offering is not popular just because it's what they are offering.
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Because they all lied about it. So for one person to admit it is to admit that they lied. It's not just to admit that it happened. It's to admit that they were part of the cover-up. There's not a single one of them who wasn't engaged in this big facade, right?
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So they fundamentally cannot admit the truth that we all saw, you know, as they were telling us, who are you going to believe us or our lying eyes? I want to make a point about, well, first about Harris and then about that Jill Biden clip. I thought it was very classy that for a long time,
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Kamala Harris refused to criticize Biden, not that she shouldn't have had a very clear policy agenda to say, here is what he did and here is where I will go. But she refused to engage in the sort of George Clooney, Obama backstabbing. And I thought that that was pretty classy of her.
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Although after the fact, with the reporting of him threatening her and saying, you know, no daylight or whatever, it complicates it a little bit. But at the time, I remember thinking that that was a sort of dignified way to help usher him out the door in a very humiliating time. This clip with Jill Biden, you watch that and it's almost like you're watching your grandparents, right?
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Like your grandmother sort of talking up how great shape your grandpa is in. And it's sort of sweet and charming, except that he was the president. And also then she always, they get to that last line. Like she can't just keep it about him answering the question. She has to say, I would take him any day over the terrible situation we're in now. When you look at what we're in now.
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And actually there is so much positive happening. You know, the border is closed. We just signed a trade deal with a 10% tariff on the UK that the UK is thrilled about $2 trillion in manufacturing investment. Like there's a lot going on right now that would have been considered wins in the democratic party I'm talking 15 years ago, right?
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Like it's not that long ago that these were democratic policies. So again, it's like part of me feels so sorry for them. Like what was the goal of this interview? Clearly they are in a desperate situation where they, you know, the legacy is on the line. Their future is on the line. How are they going to support themselves?
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they had to get a lot done with this, these interviews that he's doing, which is clearly why he's doing them. And then always at the last minute, this divisive language, the refusal to choose to be uniters instead of dividers. And you see this just so frequently with people at that elite level in the democratic party. And I think that that is really what's sinking them ultimately. Yeah.
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You know, there's a great speech that Marco Rubio gave last night. I really encourage everybody to watch it. It was about 15 minutes long. It was hilarious. I didn't know he was funny. I guess I kind of spaced on that. Very sharp, very genuine. He sort of moved into Spanish a little bit. It was at a Hispanic caucus heritage. He got an achievement award for something. Yeah.
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But at one point he said one of the joys of his job is that he sees people who were interns for him, you know, five years later, 10 years later, 15 years later. And, you know, they're much more successful. And he says a lot of them, in fact, most of them are making much more money than he is. And their clothes are much better than his are. And that there's a sort of real joy to that.
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And I really like it really stood out to me because I was just thinking about that in contradistinction to just the bare bones, basic millions of dollars that a Democrat retiring would consider to be the baseline that they would need in order just to exist. When did that happen that you needed to be making millions and millions of dollars in order to just retire from public life?
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There's just something really crazy about that to me. And you see it in a lot of these people because a lot of them are making just millions and millions and millions of dollars. But that thing where... 65% of people now who make more than $500,000 a year are Democrats and 75% of Silicon Valley donors donate to the Democrats.
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95% of donations coming out of the top three management consultant firms go to Democrats. And just this sort of idea that the Democrats have become the moneyed party, the moneyed side of things. Not to say that there are no Republicans doing this, obviously.
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Yeah. Our friend Emma Jo Morris was I forget who she was quoting recently, but she said that Joe Biden has been sort of like that book, The Giving Tree, you know, where everybody around him is sort of squeezing him for whatever they can get out of him.
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You know, I think the reason that the Democrats are hesitant to, you know, have even acknowledged this is because they love to point out what you pointed out, which that Trump has also made money, you know, in the time that he was president off the office or what have you, his children and so forth. You know, but they'll always say, oh, that's not the same because Trump has made so much more money.
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they act like the fact that Trump is better at it somehow means that there's like a difference in kind when it's really just a difference in degree.
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Do you think so?
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But wouldn't you prefer that, Mark? Because you know exactly who's doing it. You know exactly who he's, you know?
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Do you think it's worse, though?
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Thanks for having me, Mark. Anytime.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And of course, the Democrats are going to accuse the Trump administration of weaponization and so forth, right? Because that's their favorite thing to do, which is, you know, as we've said many times on this show, every accusation from them is really a confession.
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If it wasn't clear before how much they believe that they have the right to use the institutions of this country, whether it's the justice system or the university system or or our economy in order to further their own political gains, to seize power and to line their pockets with the proceeds. This really is the cherry on the cake of that.
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One of the horrific things about Biden's open border policy and in general, the handshake agreement between both parties until Trump showed up that we should have masses of illegal immigrants coming into this country, is that in the name of some sort of compassion for the global indigent, we should bring these people in.
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What actually happened, which Trump understands intuitively somehow, is that we have incentivized immense amounts of cruelty. And we've done that to our own citizens in the form of plunging wages because suddenly there's a lot of competition for jobs. And we've done it in the form of cruelty to the people crossing the Darien Gap. A third of the women who do so admit to being raped.
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So you can imagine what the actual number is. Those people become enslaved to the cartels once they get here. And because of the threat of deportation for something like domestic violence, women do not report it when an illegal migrant husband beats the crap out of them. Because what's supposed to happen when you commit a vicious crime like that is you're supposed to get deported.
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So the fact that this woman actually twice seems to have gone to the authorities about the domestic abuse she was suffering at the hands of her husband, that's not actually the norm. Because many women don't do that because they would rather suffer it than see their husband deported. Now, the question is, why was he not deported for the two times that he beat the crap out of his wife?
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I would like to know. I mean, there was so much that went wrong here, allegedly. Allegedly. So much that went wrong here. Megan, I read that the stay of deportation was not just that he would get killed by a rival gang, but the word rival being crucial there, right? That was part of the proof that he was in MS-13, right? So he was allowed to stay on the grounds that he belonged to a gang.
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I mean... The immigration system, the court system is so messed up here. And the Democrats are acting like because these activists in the system from the lawyers to the judges shirked their responsibility. Therefore, Trump is at fault. for carrying it out.
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And I just have to say, Megan, I hope the Democrats keep white knighting for Hamas defenders and for people who beat up their wives, for people who belonged to gangs, to illegal immigrants, because this is a losing issue and they don't know it because their base is the top 20% who loves this stuff. Right.
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They cannot see that the majority of people in America, this just is not going to bother them because this person is not a good person and they don't want him for a neighbor. Now, if you turn on any of the liberal channels, you'll see, you know, the elites sitting there saying, well, you know, maybe maybe I don't want him for a neighbor, but we should adjudicate that in a court.
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That's because he'll never be your neighbor. He'll be some working class Americans neighbor whose children have to play with his kids who know that his mom, their mom is being beat up by their dad. Allegedly, we'll see what what the details are there. And it's just so disgusting. The elitism here. You have United States senators getting on planes to wait for this person.
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Let's let's talk about that.
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You're exactly right, of course. There is no slippery slope between a non-citizen who committed a felony in entering this country and a citizen of the United States. The only people trying to make a slippery slope between citizens and non-citizens are the Democrats because that has been their agenda for the last 40 years. They are the ones who want there to be no legal difference.
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They want an open border. They want an endless supply of slave labor to watch their children and clean their homes and do their landscaping and work in the fields and pick the crops, as Nancy Pelosi famously put it. This is their wishful thinking, that there would be a slippery slope between a citizen and a non-citizen.
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Average Americans know that being an American citizen, indeed being allowed to live legally on United States soil, is the greatest privilege on planet Earth, and that you can't just decide that there's going to be a slippery slope there.
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No, there is a legal distinction upon which every single one of our civil rights rests, that there is a difference between being an American and being a non-American. Now, why do the Democrats insist so strongly that there should be a slippery slope there. Not just that there is, but that they want there to be one.
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Why are they insisting that in Donald Trump enforcing the law and doing what he promised the American people and getting rid of violent non-citizens, that this somehow threatens Americans? Why do they insist that in deporting a green card holder who lied on his green card and supports Hamas and supports ending America, that this could happen to an American citizen?
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It's because, Megan- That's Mahmoud Khalil. Mahmoud Khalil.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Exactly. Their entire agenda right now is cosplaying. Their base are the top 10 percent, the top 20 percent, the people who show up at Coachella to hear Bernie Sanders speak, the people who show up to hear AOC speak. These are wealthy people. They are in the top 10 percent, which controls over 60 percent of the wealth in this country. They don't have real problems.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And so what they do is they have to look for other people's problems to pretend that they have. We talked about this during the election. This is why Democratic women, wealthy middle-aged Democratic women, made third trimester abortions their number one issue. It's because it allows them to cosplay as the oppressed. They know at some level that they are unbelievably privileged.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And they know because they can see the polls that Donald Trump has made the case to working class Americans of all races that he has their best interests at heart, that he stands for the dignity of the American working class. That's what the tariffs are about. That's what immigration is about. That's what getting trans women out of women's sports is about.
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It's about the dignity of the average American. And the Democrats, in realizing that they have lost touch with that great American middle, have to invent ways in which they are the ones who are on the side of the oppressed. Hence the magical slippery slope that if Donald Trump deports an alleged wife beater.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Or somebody who supports Hamas, people who are not American citizens and don't have the rights of American citizens, that he could be coming for you, you wealthy people at Coachella. You are a potential victim. Your rights are being, you know, oppressed. You are the real victim here. That's what they're trying to do here. And of course, it's going to fall flat.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Thank you so much for having me, Megan. It's always such a gift to be able to join you and your listeners.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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It's going to work with the top 10 percent because that's really what they want to hear, that they are the true oppressed. But this is going to get the Democrats nowhere. You know, there's a meme I keep thinking about, you know, this anime meme of the young man standing like this and there's a butterfly. You know, it's like he's the Democrats.
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And they're looking at like, you know, these these ne'er do wells, you know, these illegals who came here illegally broke the law, you know, and they are standing for them. And I just keep thinking this is them like being like, is this how we get back the working class? No, it's not how you get back the working class. No.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Seventy three percent of men who voted for Trump, men who are people of color. This is from Ryan Gerdersky. He's great on the polls. He found that 73 percent of non white men who voted for Trump want to see radically less immigration. And it's because it comes at their expense. Their American dream was put on hold so that the Democrats could walk around white knighting for illegal migrants.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And they've had enough of it. And that number, Megan, is growing and growing and growing.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Oh, I could not agree with you more. I mean, these people at this point, they would give a kidney to get a retweet from AOC. They've decided this is the direction that the party is going in. I actually like her. I think that she's very genuine and really believes what she has to say. If the Democrats cannot figure out...
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That illegal immigration is a huge problem that came at the expense of people who used to be their voters and now are Trump's voters because he looked at them and said, you have a right to demand better. They're never, ever, ever going to be competitive again. You know, they have a lot of like, you know, they seem to understand that they have a problem.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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But this is the one thing that they just will not, they can't quit illegal immigrants. And I think, Megan, the reason for that is like, unlike Donald Trump, who very successfully sidelined the elites of his party over the last 10 years, and especially during the last campaign, all of the Democratic funding is now bound up with very privileged people.
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white progressives who really support the open border, both for economic and for social reasons, but also the Soros Foundation, the Ford Foundation, all of these NGOs that have a very, very open borders mentality. They don't believe borders are real. They don't believe in nation states. They don't believe in national borders. And of course, this is the most elite thing possible.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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There are millions of Americans who the only thing they have in their life that gives them pride is their American identity. They are proud to belong to this, the greatest nation on planet Earth. And that is the thing that the elites cannot stand for themselves. have that they want to rob them of.
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And of course, the way you rob them of that is you dilute it by having an open border and having a marketplace that welcomes in millions of people to compete with working class people in the marketplace. It does dilute our rights.
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The idea that you could have somebody here who is, you know, claiming to have the same legal protections as a citizen is a way of saying the citizenship itself should not count for anything. And I think all good people should say no to that.
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I think they're wrong on the on the legal merits. John, you were saying yesterday you made a really good point, which is that this parole program is always at the request of the president and can be revoked at any moment. You're totally right. They just want to keep them in court, keep them from enacting the agenda that the president was put in office to enact. by the voters of this country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You know, Megan, I keep thinking if this was 2016, back then the Democrats sort of mass media approach to opposing the Trump administration worked a lot better. Remember the whole like family separation thing? You know, that was in the New York Times and then it was on CNN and MSNBC. And suddenly, you know, the Trump administration had to back off because there was this huge outcry.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I think today we are just in a totally different moment because the voters, the electorate, the American people was able to see what happens when you have somebody like Joe Biden just basically decriminalize illegal border crossing, which is what he did, which is what he promised he was going to do during the campaign. And what an absolute mess it made.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And the most horrifying part about it is this to me. I mean, obviously, the crimes that are committed against American citizens, I agree, they're totally horrifying. But let's remember why Biden did this. It's because American corporations were desperate for workers in the post-pandemic labor crunch and they didn't want to pay American workers what they were asking for.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And so Biden partnered with the cartels. to open the border and provide American corporations with slave labor to the tune of millions and millions and millions of illegal immigrants. And when that chaos threatened his reelection campaign, they said, you know what? We don't actually need the cartels anymore.
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We're just going to legally start importing these people to these corporations so they can pay them slave wages and not have to pay Americans more money. I think Biden felt, well, this will bring down inflation. Now, the problem with this is that, you know, we actually should want working class Americans to make a living wage. I mean, that used to be the Democrats view.
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We have to control immigration because a tight labor market uses the free market. in order to raise wages for working class people and give them dignity. And that's why in the 70s, most Americans were middle class because people who worked in meat packing plants and people who were manicurists and people who worked in construction were able to command a living wage.
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They were able to make a middle class wage working in working class jobs. And now thanks to the Democrats who still have the chutzpah To cosplay as the side of labor, we shipped all these good manufacturing jobs overseas to China to build up their middle class.
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We imported millions and millions of low wage illegal immigrants to work in the jobs here, radically reducing the wages that working class people could ask for. And it was Donald Trump. A Republican who showed up and said, you do not have to live like this. If you work hard, you shouldn't be poor. So what about the inflation argument? Right.
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People will say, oh, well, if we pay working class people a living wage, then all of these goods are going to become unaffordable. Well, notice that what Donald Trump has done is he took a bunch of very pro worker policies like tariffs. and controlling the border to raise the wages of working class people.
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And he has paired them with a host of very pro-business things that are coming down the pike. We have radical deregulation. We're going to have cheap energy because of drill, baby, drill. We have tax cuts coming. And he has promised anybody who reshores manufacturing that he will drop their corporate taxes to 15 percent.
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That combination of being pro-business on the one side and pro-worker on the other side, this is genius. And this is why the Democrats can't stand him, because they didn't think of this first.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You know what I keep thinking, Megan, I keep thinking like, you know, they tried to get him on 91 counts. Yeah. And like, look at where we are now. You know, maybe just take a beat. You know, this Khalil Mahmoud guy, they hold him up as some sort of, you know, oh, he's being deported because of his views. This is a free speech issue.
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And then it turns out if you had just waited like, you know, 10 minutes, you would have found out that this guy actually lied on his visa application. Right. This guy. Right. This Garcia fellow. Right. who they're holding up as this Maryland father. Well, maybe wait a minute and find out a little bit more about this person before you decide to nominate him for the avatar of the Democratic Party.
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And they just can't seem to understand that there is a real logic here. Donald Trump is not a careful speaker. But everything he has done since he got into office has been unbelievably intentional. You know, they lost in 2020 and they sat at home and for four years they plotted. I feel like you can really see this with Jason Miller, right? And with Stephen Miller.
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This is a guy who sat at home for four years. And plotted how he was going to restore America to its greatness through using legal avenues to enact the Trump agenda that is wildly popular with the American people. And that is what they did. And that is what they are doing. And the Democrats are acting like it's 2016.
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People are shooting from the hip and that you can get a story in The New York Times and shut down the agenda. And we are just in a totally different moment. I think Trump was really changed by the assassination attempts on him. But also, Megan, I think he was changed by the level of support that he sees from the people. You know, in 2016, he knew that what he wanted to do was popular.
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But he couldn't quite get that across. In 2025, he knows that what he wants to do is popular and he knows that the people know it. And I think that that confidence is really coming across and it is forcing the Democrats into unforced error after unforced error after unforced error. I mean, you don't need a consultant to tell you don't white knight for the criminal illegal aliens.
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And yet, Megan, they just can't seem to stop.
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Yeah, it's truly amazing because he doesn't weigh in often. And then when he does weigh in, it's always on the side of the elites of the elites of the elites in the most unpopular way. To me, Trump has already won because he got Harvard to say, No way, Jose, we will not stop importing people who hate America and hate Jews. It's like he already won, right?
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Like whatever happens, he has exposed them for what they are, which is an institution not of higher learning. but which confers status on people. And the higher status you are is based on how much you hate America and recently how much you hate the Jews, right? Like this is very clear at this point that these institutions are no longer places that give their students some sort of education.
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What they do give them is an ideology. And of course it was Barack Obama who defunded vocational training in high schools, right? right? The idea was everyone's going to go to college. And why would he do that? Why would he block millions and millions and millions of young men of finding their way into the middle class by working with their hands for a living?
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Well, of course, because the number one predictor for whether you'll be a Democrat is whether you have a college degree, you know? So they We're funneling people into college. And so your ability to achieve the American dream, thanks to Barack Obama, became contingent on how much anti-American, anti-Semitic, post-structuralist, post-modernist crap you had been exposed to.
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And of course, you could see how this directly leads to these activist judges. They've been exposed to it for 12 years, right? So they've been exposed to it for many, many, many more years than even just your average undergrad. And so it all comes full circle, right? This is, of course, totally, totally ridiculous. Nobody is owed a Harvard degree. Harvard is not owed taxpayer dollars.
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Certainly, if it cannot prove that it has the best interests of the United States of America at heart, it's not owed the tax dollars of hardworking Americans. But also, the whole system that was built by Obama, the system in which
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You only get access to the American dream if you walk the gauntlet of these anti-American institutions, which are nothing more than status conferring operations in which elites confer status and a lot of wealth on each other. That whole system is crumbling down. I don't want Harvard to reform. I want us to reform. I want us to stop seeing a Harvard degree as something to be proud of.
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I want us to stop worshiping at the altar of these institutions that hate us and hate working class people. And for the cost of $400,000 a year, teach young Americans who are going to be wealthy to hate the people who they're going to employ. Let's all just stop. We can stop. Like, however, this drama plays out. I think Harvard's going to cave very, very quickly.
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I think the Trump administration's letter was an opening salvo. I don't think they're going to insist on every aspect of this list. They want certain things very clearly more than others that investigate all teachers for plagiarism.
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That's probably I was also reading that and I was like, they'll never do that. That's for sure. But we really have the power as Americans to say just no. Like as Trump always says, you don't have to live like this. We don't have to live like that. We don't have to give people respect just because they have a Harvard degree or a Princeton degree or a Columbia degree.
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We can say, actually, this proves to me you spent four years being exposed to the most despicable ideology.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Right. It's so amazing. Like they went to see space. We're supposed to see them, right? Like they admired the universe. And what they were expecting was for us to admire the fact that they were rich enough and famous enough to have been granted this utterly, utterly vacuous experience from which they learned absolutely nothing. Shoot it into my veins. This is the Democratic Party, right?
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It's all acting. It's all celebrity. It's all ostentatious wealth. I mean, this was exactly what Kamala Harris's entire campaign was like. Look at us. We're very wealthy. Don't we look great? Admire us. You know, it's so funny. She said she's heard from women and girls who have said to her, I didn't realize this is something I could do. You know how I know that didn't happen, Megan?
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Because it's not something they could do because they're not friends with Jeff Bezos, right? Like the whole thing is a farce. Their message for women was take up space like us. Like the reception they got was like the right corrective. You guys are taking up too much space already. Like what are you offering? Where is the service?
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Where is the sense that we owe something to the society that has made us so unbelievably wealthy? What are you giving back? What they are giving back is their celebrity, the right for us to admire them. Like, it is so despicable. It's not just women, although, of course, like women do this so much worse because we always expect to be admired, you know.
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But, you know, when the men did this, right, I forget who the billionaire was. Was it Bezos? Was it Musk? I don't remember who it was that went to
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space they came back right he came back and he said wow you know we're so small vis-a-vis the universe like the most banal like like totally like really you went to space that's what you came back with and it's just like these people are so bored Megan they have no problems they have nothing in their lives that they consider to be of value and what's amazing to me is that it seems like
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Hollywood knows what time it is, even if these five women didn't, right? Like, you really did see people coming out and being like, what the heck is this?
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It's so amazing because I always say Donald Trump has a real genius for bringing out the lowest qualities in his opponents.
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First of all, that's the funniest I've seen Amy Schumer in maybe 10 years, 15 years. It was really, really funny. I think that this is kind of a turning point, Megan. Like I feel like the vibe is shifting. Like a year ago, you would not have seen the left openly admitting this is not cool anymore. It's almost like these women in their space mission admitted a little bit too much.
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They went from being the apotheosis of what the leftist elites in Hollywood and entertainment represents to just exposing it a little bit too much. If the message had been slightly better, nobody would have come out against it. But now it's very interesting to see the cracks in the very elites that these women come from They realize that they've lost the plot.
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They realize that they've lost the country. Nobody's going to see their movies. Nobody's watching their TV shows. There's no purchase for that ostentatious, liberal, vacuous, empty culture anymore. And I think we're going to look back on this moment as maybe the moment that we started to realize that we were in full-on woke lash.
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And people wanted to return to substance and to unifying messages and to actual entertainment, actual culture that has real meaning for people.
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You look at how the Democrats have turned on all of their own values the minute they suspected Trump of supporting them, whether it was standing up for the working class or standing up for free speech or standing up for women, as you point out all the time, Megan, they simply will not ever change.
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Absolutely. One more quick point, which is I forget his name, the astronaut who Elon Musk just rescued from space. There was a woman and a man. The man, Megan, he went to church services every Sunday night. from space. I can't remember the last time I heard something so inspiring. This man was in space and he did not miss a single Sunday service. And if he could do it, we can do it.
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But he brought his spirituality and his faith up into space with him. Like it was so beautiful. The idea that even there, when you're so close to the heavens and you have this perspective, what he was longing for, what his soul needed was to be tied to his faith community here on earth. And these women went up there in search of meaning and came down just as vacuous as they had left.
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Thank you so much, Megan. I love you. God bless you and God bless your viewers. And thank you for everything you do for this great nation and for the Jewish people.
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cease or hesitate to retreat from their own values if they think Donald Trump may be representing them. But here we have something even more delicious, which is that it was revealed that the person attacking him for all of these
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trumped up ridiculous charges, who went after him for the pure sake of going after the political rival of the Democrats because he was more popular than the Democrats, that she was herself allegedly engaged in the very things that she was pretending he was doing, which he was not actually doing. It is just chef's kiss, Megan, because it is such a parallel between
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For the Democrats who accused Donald Trump of being a threat to democracy while themselves undermining democracy, they accuse him of weaponizing the law while themselves weaponizing the law. And this is just like such a beautiful, perfect bow on top of the box of their hypocrisy where he again and again comes out ahead. It's incredible.
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Yeah. And if this is true, I mean, Megan, if you had done this stuff, right, like the stuff she's accused of doing, you might sort of hesitate before going out and having the most high profile person on planet Earth be accused by you of the same exact things.
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So you have to understand here, how is it possible that she could have staked so much knowing that she had done the same thing if this is all true? And I think the answer to that is really important. Democrats fundamentally do not consider conservatives and Republicans to be human in the same way that they are. They don't see them as comparable.
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And the confidence with which she used the justice system to go after Trump for the very crimes that she herself is alleged of having committed suggests to me this kind of confidence that the system will always work not justly, but in their favor. favor, right?
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There's a kind of unconscious acknowledgement here and admission, if you will, that they believe that they are not held to the same standard as conservatives and Republicans and certainly Donald Trump. And I think for me, that's what's really interesting about this.
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Thank you so much for having me, Megan, and for all those kind words. I absolutely adore you. I saw you at CPAC, and I have never seen a crowd that in tune with a speaker. It was brilliant, and thank you so much for having me.
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I think it's so important that you called out the economic aspect here, because this is really what the Democratic Party has become, which is, you know, Rachel Maddow's and AOC's and other elites making themselves the main story when the American people are hurting and the American people are desperate for some kind of representation, desperate for service.
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and are constantly asked instead to extend empathy to, in people like Rachel Maddow's case, very wealthy people. And the point I would make, Megan, is that the fact that she's so rich and the race baiting are not actually independent of each other, but they're really two sides of the same coin. And this is what my first book, Bad News, was about, which is that the wokeness
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This idea that somehow gender or race are determinative of value instead of right versus wrong, right? This woke ideology is itself a smokescreen. For the fact that the Democrats created an economy, which is an upward transfer of wealth from hard working, working class Americans into the pockets of the elites, not just billionaires and millionaires like Rachel Maddow.
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But, you know, the top 20 percent, that over credentialed college elite who now have a lock on over 50 percent of the GDP and are the only ones in America who are really guaranteed the American dream. So how did this happen? Well, for 50 years, the Democrats implemented economic policy. which was wage theft of working class people.
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There is a great article in the New York Times that really, really, really portrays this well about how the Hamptons is in an uproar that their slave caste is going to be deported. And these people- with absolute seriousness are like, who is gonna cut our grass? We are so compassionate, leave them here.
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And they don't realize that what they're saying is, my God, we might have to pay an American a living wage, right? This is the Democratic Party, okay? So how do they hide this from the American people that they are rich and they want indentured servants to clean their homes so they don't have to pay Americans a living wage to do it?
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They latched onto this woke ideology of race and gender where they said, oh, we don't want open borders because we want slaves. We want open borders. And you guys are racists if you oppose it. We are the compassionate ones and you are the racist ones. We are the ones who support Joy Reid. If you criticize her, you are racist. We are the ones who support Rachel Maddow.
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If you criticize her, you are anti-gay. They use the woke ideology. to portray themselves as the good guys while they were robbing their neighbors blind and calling them racist and sexist to hide their crimes this is who the democratic party is and what we're seeing now with the firing of these people and obviously you know rachel maddow refused you're totally right that whole speech last night
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The only thing people should take away from it is that she refused to actually resign in protest. Right. Like that's the thing that happened there. Right. What we're seeing now is if the wokeness took a worldview that that Americans used to have based on the difference between right versus wrong and replaced it with a worldview based on powerful versus powerless rights.
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race, white versus black, straight versus gay, right? And whoever is a person of color or gay is inherently virtuous because they have less power. And whoever is white is inherently evil because they are the oppressor. We are now seeing with the firing of these people, a return on the part of the American people
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to a worldview based on right versus wrong and common sense, which has been ushered in by the mass support for President Trump from minorities and from working class people of all races. We're entering a new unified moment of average Americans reclaiming what they know is their right to
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To a worldview based on right versus wrong, their right to define who they are as good people and just the absolute silencing of this garbage from the woke elites who are also not coincidentally all millionaires.
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It's amazing. And the piece explores how a lot of these people, a lot of the illegal immigrants are living in encampments in the woods because, of course, they can't afford a home or even to rent on the Hamptons. Their indentured servants are literally homeless. They're day laborers and they are fighting to keep their slaves as if they are walking across the Edmund Pettus Bridge with Dr. King.
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It is so absolutely disgusting. Everyone has to read this article because they just have zero sense of, you know, no awareness of how this would come across to an average American. And Megan, I'll just give you one data point.
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There is not a single industry in America that is a majority illegal immigrant, not one, not a single one, which means that every time a Democrat says they're doing the jobs an American doesn't want, they are insulting millions and millions and millions of Americans who get a lot of dignity from cleaning toilets,
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or doing farm work or any of the other number of mowing the lawn that these rich Democrats would rather kill themselves than do. And I think that's the key here. I mean, it's hilarious and it's infuriating that they call people racist to call them out for this. But at the end of the day,
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The Democrats' version of the economy is they want everybody who they care about, all of their college-educated professional managerial elites, to be making $250,000 a year. They want all manufacturing shipped overseas to China and all of the service industry jobs to be done by slaves who are brought here by cartels. That's their model of the economy.
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They're going to pay off working-class people to stay home.
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That's exactly right. And you will be surprised to know who the last Democrat to admit this was. It was Bernie Sanders in 2015 when Ezra Klein asked him in an interview, he said, you care so much about the poor Senator Sanders. Shouldn't we have open borders? And Bernie's response was he went like this. And Megan, I'm going to do my Bernie Sanders impression only for you. Yeah, he went.
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Open borders? That's a Koch brothers proposal. He was horrified. He went on to say the Koch brothers would love that. Have an open border, pay people $2, $3 an hour. And then he went, I don't believe in that. He said, I believe in paying American workers. And the point I would make about this is, Lori DeRemer, President Trump's labor secretary pick,
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She made this point that an open border hurts the working class. This used to be the Democrats view. And now watch as every every Democrat, including Senator Sanders, are going to vote against her. Tulsi Gabbard was raked over the coals for opposing Republicans. war and opposing spying on Americans. These used to be left wing positions. Now they're Donald Trump's positions.
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And so every single Democrat voted against her again and again with these picks. You see Donald Trump pushing views, great views, sensible views, views that represent where the American people are at. And because he's pushing them, the Democrats have turned on them. There is not a single principle that the Democrats would not abandon if they thought Trump liked it.
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And it is just such an amazing moment to see the gap between the elites in that party and the unity of the American working class supporting this agenda.
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These people are so disgusting because we are in a new civil rights era. We are in a new era in which minorities are going to flourish and women are going to flourish. But it's the MAGA movement and they just can't see it because they are high on their own supply and they hate working class people. This is all hatred of the American working class.
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Am I being too hard? I mean, the white tears meme comes from the Robin DiAngelo book, How to Be an Anti-Racist, where she says when white people are accused of racism, they cry and their tears are a weapon they use against black people. And it's like, no, they're crying because to be racist is to be evil and they know they are not evil, right? and you are accusing them of being evil.
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Like, they took a thing that is a good thing about Americans, that we would rather do many unpleasant, horrible things than be accused of racism because we are not racist, because we are good. And they use that as a sign of somehow being bad, which makes people question themselves.
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And that is ultimately what they wanted with this meme, was when you as a white person feel upset that you've been falsely accused of racism, you then need to question your most basic godly instincts. You can never trust your sense of right versus wrong. Only they can tell you. who is right and who is wrong, who is good and who is evil. This is the most horrific, heinous thing to do.
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They tried to re-racialize American life at a time when we have finally overcome the sins of our past. They tried to create a new standard of anti-racism to give themselves power and to make a lot of money. And I am so unbelievably grateful to God and also grateful to President Trump that we are coming to a moment as Americans where this just does not work anymore, Megan.
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Yeah, I don't think it's going to be enough for them because, I mean, the truth is because 96% of journalists are Democrats, if you're a Democrat, right, you want to understand the moment. You want to understand how you lost.
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You want to understand why so many of your fellow Americans voted for a person that you maybe, let's say, believe even because you were told by the media is literally Hitler, right? Yeah. No conservatives have to wonder how Democrats see things, right? We are constantly bombarded with it. It's everywhere. It is inescapable.
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And so I think for a lot of Democrats who, you know, maybe don't like Trump, but love this country, I'm talking about Democratic voters, they are turning now to Fox News, to the Megyn Kelly show. to a host of conservative media outlets because they want to understand what happened and they know they are not going to get that from the people who spent 10 years calling Trump literally Hitler.
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And so honestly, the only thing I think that could save MSNBC right now or CNN is for them to seriously invest in bringing on conservatives because I think that is what Americans want to hear. They're sick of the divisiveness. They're sick of the polarization. They're sick of people getting rich off of trying to get us to hate our neighbors.
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They want to hear how the other side thinks so they can make an informed decision. They want the temperature brought down and they want to see people having civil debates. That's what I believe.
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I mean, it's not surprising. In a way, he's right. You know, the only people of color that the extreme progressive white elites let in are the ones who are race baiters because it's the perfect smokescreen for class. Right. Like when you're out in the Hamptons. Right. And you're only willing to employ illegals who live, you know, in the woods behind your home.
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You don't want to see like people of color saying, hey, we also are not really comfortable with all of these illegal immigrants. Right. What you want is a person up there being like it's racist to oppose an open border. And so I think in a way he's right. The power structures that be of progressive white rich leftists. They do only let a certain line forward.
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You're not going to get someone like Lawrence Jones or Charles Payne, brilliant, brilliant black men who are conservatives to actually show up and talk in the way that people in their community actually sound like and actually talk like.
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Thank you so much for asking me about this, Megan. I hope your listeners are aware of this, but obviously you allow voices on here that you don't necessarily agree with about everything. And that's very rare, unfortunately, in the media. And I'm very grateful for you for that. And of course, to talk about this, his entire supply chain is in China. And he is unbelievably close with the CCP.
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Xi Jinping asked him to build a showroom for Tesla in Xinjiang, which is where the Uyghurs are being genocided. And he complied. He didn't have to do that. He's the richest man on the planet. So he has this unbelievably obsequious relationship with China, who I believe is our greatest adversary. I don't see how you can truly be an American patriot.
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when you have to bend the knee to China and have proven willing to bend the knee to China over and over again. He's such a maverick on Twitter when it comes to American politics, but he has never once said a negative word about the CCP, which, of course, engages in tons and tons of human rights violations, the genocide of the Uyghurs, and, of course, undermines America at every turn that it can.
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So on that front, I'm very uncomfortable with him being this close to power. The way that he related to American workers over the H-1B visa, squabble over Christmas when he literally endorsed the tweet calling Americans retarded. I really, really, really didn't like that. I don't think he has the same values as the MAGA movement. He's not religious. He has this kind of transhumanist view.
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He thinks that people are going to become computerized and that intelligence is going to be machine made. All of this stuff for me really puts him at odds with the values of the MAGA movement. Now, that said, I really trust President Trump's judgment. He's an amazing judge of character. He has a very clear idea of what the mandate is.
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I think there's a little bit of good cop, bad cop going on with him and Elon. So I appreciate that. Obviously, I love getting rid of government waste. Obviously, I'm super critical of the USAID. I think it's amazing that they just axed all of that. That email to me read kind of like a Karen. I was like, wow, Elon Musk is kind of the Karen in chief. Right. Like, tell me what you did this week.
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Right. Like I wanted in writing. Right. So I but honestly, I don't think that Trump has, you know, I don't think he's compromised anything here. To me, I think he sees Elon as. Someone he likes hanging out with. I think he sees him as a peer. Donald Trump does not have many peers. And Elon Musk, as the richest man in the world, is his peer.
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And I think that he also kind of feels like, look, the guy gave me a quarter of a billion dollars, got me over the finish line. I'm going to give him this thing to play around with. You know, he'll get bored in four months and he'll move on. I don't think Donald Trump expected this to take over, especially when his achievements on so many other fronts are colossal.
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I mean, Israel, Palestine, Ukraine, immigration. I mean, Scott Bassett is doing an amazing job in Treasury. This rare minerals deal in Ukraine, we're going to get some of our money back. Hello. Like he's doing such amazing, amazing things. I don't think for a second he thought that the media was going to take, you know, orange Hitler bad and just try to put it on Elon.
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And I also think that, you know, the media, of course, is criticizing him for all the wrong things. But so that's kind of where I'm at on this.
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I totally hear that. I do think he might actually get the Nobel Peace Prize. I mean, he deserves it already for what he achieved with the Abraham Accords in the first administration.
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I was talking to Sebastian Gorka, who's one of Trump's advisors on counterterrorism at CPAC, and he said that he had been at Yale and he had this feeling that these people on the panel with him who had spent 10 years calling him a Nazi were were just capitulating. Like, there's just been this mass capitulation of the elites who used to smear Trump endlessly. I think he already deserves it.
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I think he might get it. And, you know, God willing, he has amazing things in the pipeline coming with Saudi Arabia, with Egypt. I mean, they are really making moves. And, you know, Megan, after that horrific scene with the caskets of the strangled and mangled and mutilated babies' bodies in Gaza...
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When thousands of Gazan civilians showed up to cheer with their own children, I mean, this just like utterly depraved, godless scene. I think a lot of people are having this feeling of like, we need to break everything. And Donald Trump is just the right man in the right moment. And he has a good heart for this stuff and a good head for how to do this stuff. So I feel very excited about that.
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I do think he really wants that. I will say the other thing about Elon Musk is this 13 kids with four women. He's never married any of them. Like it's so what we criticize about leftist culture, you know, the sort of, I don't know, like the, the, Yeah, we want kids, but don't we want them in these loving two parent homes?
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And he's made such a, you know, a virtue out of this, like he thinks it makes him cool. And I think that it's it's kind of a there's a lot of people I think are an odd fit for the MAGA movement, but who I think are bringing really good things into it. And this as a role model for young men, I just don't like it. I feel really uncomfortable with it.
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Absolutely. God bless you. Thank you so much for everything you do, Megan.
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Mm hmm.
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Well, first of all, you were heroic. That interview was a masterclass in how to be both fair, but also vigorous and representing your audience in the pursuit of truth. So Megan, huge kudos. I enjoyed every minute of it. It was just truly so inspiring. And as you always do, a masterclass in real journalism. A few things really stood out to me. The first being that he acknowledged that
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that conservative media had gotten this right, that conservatives across the country, Republicans, realized this. In fact, a lot of Democrats realized this. My question that was left unanswered was, okay, so what are you going to do going forward to increase your humility a little bit vis-a-vis conservatives and Republicans who got this right? Why did they get it right?
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I think we know the answer to that. Right. Exactly. Right. You know, he's talking about bringing humility to that moment with Laura Trump. But that moment was, as you pointed out, Megan, fueled by contempt for how conservatives and Republicans see the world. And that question, really, he could not answer you, Megan, which is he admits that he should have done a better job at the time. OK, why not?
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Didn't you? And of course, Megan, the answer is very clear because the interests of the legacy media and the interests of the Democratic Party in covering this up were one and the same. The mainstream media gaslit the American people because they didn't want Donald Trump to win. They have chosen a side. And I think that this is such an important point going forward.
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Because in a way, Joe Biden is really being scapegoated here. The reason that Jake Tapper got the access now was because all of the people who did the covering up were certain that he, like the mainstream media, is still on the side of the Democratic Party. And so it is in their interest to act like all of the crimes were at Joe Biden's feet and his little coterie.
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And if we just put all of the crime there, we can move forward. And it's a way really, Megan, of hiding the fact that the Democrats have actually nothing to offer the American people going forward in terms of a platform. So if they can only scapegoat Joe Biden enough, maybe nobody will notice.
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Yeah, I don't think anybody could possibly believe at this point that it's an accident, that the horrifying and truly sad cancer diagnosis was discovered, you know, the day before this book was supposed to come out. That just beggars. Ridiculous point. I mean, no, no, they think we're fools. Yeah.
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And I think that the fact that they've gotten to this place where the lies have finally caught up with them is very significant. And I don't want to minimize what President Biden himself did in defrauding the American people in this way, what Joe Biden did, what that inner Kotorian cabal did.
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But I struggle, Megan, to point to a single policy decision that Joe Biden made that I don't think a President Kamala Harris would have made or President Gavin Newsom would or a different person would have made had he not run again and had there been an open primary. Those policies he enacted that were deeply unpopular, those are the Democratic Party's policies.
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And so in a way, I think this is a bit of a distraction from that. Of course, it's hugely criminal what happened here and worthy of discussing. But at the end of the day, the reason that there are people who are now willing to speak to someone like Jake Tapper is because they're hoping we won't realize the bigger problem here.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Yeah, I mean, obviously this is insanity, right? It's good to know what happened. It's good to know who lied and who is still lying and who is still carrying water for Joe Biden. But to me, Megan, the people who are now willing to come out against Joe Biden.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Kind of like George Clooney, who, when this became undeniable to the American people, only then was he willing to admit what the rest of America had already seen with their own eyes. Those people who are now coming out against Joe Biden, now that he has no power...
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Like to me, there's something about that that is also deeply disturbing because, of course, the reason they're doing it now is it's a power grab. Right. They want power back. Jake Tapper wants us now to trust him again on his show because he's willing to talk about somebody who can no longer hurt him for telling the truth about him. Right. Biden is down and out. He has cancer again.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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He is no longer a threat to anybody in power in the Democratic Party. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't be talking about what went down there. But what it does mean is the people speaking the loudest now about everything that happened. Ask yourselves why they're willing to do that now.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And it's because they're trying to get trust back from the American people by now telling the truth about someone who can no longer hurt them for doing so. But they will never reevaluate, for example, how they talk about Donald Trump.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And that is very upsetting because, of course, the people who don't want to talk in this negative way constantly about Donald Trump are the people who knew the truth about Joe Biden and were willing to admit it then.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I mean, Clooney really emerges from this as one of the chief villains along with President Obama. He knew. He knew and didn't tell until everybody else knew. That moment where George Clooney, we assume, or somebody told, you know, Tapper and Thompson that George Clooney had not recognized Joe Biden at the fundraiser.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And then, of course, on Mark Halperin's show, as you pointed out, there was another version of that story told. You know, it's possible that both versions are true, Megan, because it's possible that what happened is is George Clooney just did not get the reception that he felt he was owed and interpreted that as Joe Biden not recognizing who he was. Right. You know, the absolute opposite.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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arrogance here that he should be the one to decide the future of the democratic party, him attempting to get credit for basically stabbing Biden in the back after he could no longer hide what he had access to what he knew because he was so wealthy and such an elite. I mean, this to me really was the cherry on the cake here. Um, and now again,
The Megyn Kelly Show
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laundering his, trying to launder his reputation for what purpose? To get power back. That's what this whole story is about.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I think the thing that is most important to keep in mind is that none of this would have been possible if we had a functioning media that had respect for the American people. It is their utter contempt for anyone who doesn't vote for their chosen people that allowed this to happen. Because as you pointed out, Megan, again and again, you had this story. You were showing the clips.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Anybody listening to your program or any conservative media was exposed to this. So even Democratic voters understood that he was too old and it is their utter contempt for Republicans, for people who vote for Trump, for working class people. for the normies of this country who are looking at this, looking at the footage and saying, this is not okay, that allowed this to happen.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And so what I wanna know is what are you in the media going to do to correct the character defect that has allowed you to think you are so much better and so much more important than average working class Americans that you can tell them not to believe what they're seeing with their own eyes.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And of course, Megan, this all has to do with the class divide and the fact that journalists are part of the elites, that the vast majority of American journalists are in the top 10%.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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These are people who have degrees from elite institutions, which actually make them much worse at their job because they think they are so much smarter and so much better and so much more educated than average people. The people telling the great American story absolutely hate the American people. That is the only way you end up in a situation like this, Megan.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I think beyond that, Megan, it's not like the press doesn't know how to do it when there's a Republican president in office. And I think that is what is so upsetting to so many Americans is We see you guys do this every single day. If there is a Republican in office, suddenly you remember how to do good journalism.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Suddenly you remember that you should not give the benefit of the doubt to people with power, that it is your job to represent the American people. Of course, they go too far, right? I mean, their attacks on the Trump administration are completely in excess of what I think average Americans would think are appropriate.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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But it's just become so clear that the vast majority of the legacy mainstream media are in the can for one of the political parties and yet want the respect of being the fourth estate holding power to account when actually what they're doing is attacking Republicans because it is in their interests to to do that because they are on the side of the Democrats.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And the reason they're on the side of the Democrats is not just because of liberalism, but because Democrats represent the elites and they are part of the elites. And that really, I think, is the take home message here.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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A hundred percent. And I think at the end of the day, this book, even though I believe that, you know, Alex Thompson and Jake Tapper did their best to report what people told them, 200 sources, it's a good number. Those sources spoke to them because the Democratic Party is trying to launder itself right now by scapegoating Joe Biden when the problem is so much deeper.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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It's that average Americans cannot trust the mainstream media, to be honest.
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Thank you. God bless you. Thank you for everything you do.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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The reaction online is also just such a reinforcement of how much aesthetics, attractiveness, I mean, like the shallowness of the American people, the American people who are online, we'll say, is very much on display here. Part of, yes, there's absolutely a bubbling anger about the inequity in the country writ large and in the health care system, no question.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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But so much of the clips we were watching at the top of this segment are driven by the fact that this is this is an attractive segment. We've got to drop the banner to show why. And it is deeply troubling that we are celebrating this person who's committed cold-blooded murder because, you know, he clearly went to the gym.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I really recommend people watch that whole interview. It's an incredible hour and 15 minutes, not least because of the way it was misrepresented by the headlines in the liberal press. But I think when Trump writes his memoirs and looks back on his life, this will be like the sweetest time. He's in his magnanimous era. He has been so thoroughly vindicated on everything.
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So many fronts and it has brought out this unbelievably confident magnanimous side of his personality, you know, even when he's criticizing the journalist he doesn't call her nasty in this interview he just says to her, you know, you have so much potential. Which I thought was really funny. That was like the most ad hominem he would go. He's in a really wonderful place right now.
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And the three to me, the three headlines would have been if I was sort of covering this honestly would have been the last question she asked him is what is your message to Americans who did not vote for you and did not support you? And his answer, Megan, was I love you.
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He said that he was invested in protecting the dreamers, especially the ones who are older and middle aged and contributing a lot and have good jobs. And he said that he was not interested in any kind of retribution. He said, again, our success will be our retribution. He said he's not going to get involved in Pam Bondi's work or in Kash Patel's work. He's going to let them do their jobs.
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I mean, these were real headlines that, of course, nobody pointed out. As to immigration, I think you're totally right. You know, the... Homan is so the perfect man for this job because he could care less what anybody thinks about him. He is an unbelievable patriot and feels that it is his job to protect the American people. And honestly, Megan, Trump is very sensitive to the headlines.
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He's thinking ahead about how to sort of preempt them, how to protect himself from those accusations from the unfair media. But I got to say. He was given a mandate by the American people to do exactly this. And the media has lost all credibility because in opposing him in the most dishonest and vitriolic way, it was revealed on November 5th that they were opposing the American people.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Their hatred for Donald Trump was revealed for what it is, which is hatred for the American people. And so when the media stands up and says, look at this racism, look at this cruelty, how dare they try to deport these lovely families, the American people are going to say, hey, that's me you're calling racist. I voted for this.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And so I think we're going to see a really different relationship between the administration and the media. And if we don't, it is the media who's going to suffer, not the administration.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You know, I was struck by how succinctly the president-elect summed up his mandate.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Well, he didn't go after Hillary Clinton the first time around, right? We have a record. That's what's so insane about all the accusations against him. We were all there. It was four years ago. They act like that never happened. It's so ridiculous. I honestly think Donald Trump only cares about two things. He cares about no more wars. He hates war because he thinks it's wasteful.
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And he wants an incredible economy that will lift up the working class, hardworking people who work and work and work and can't get ahead. He really, those are his priorities. That's what he cares about. He really wants the people in his cabinet to do what they view as the mandate given by the American people so that he can focus on those things.
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The idea that he's on some sort of revenge tour is so, so ridiculous. And you know what, Megan, it's just a pure projection. Every accusation from the Democrats is a confession. They spent four years waging revenge against Donald Trump for beating Hillary Clinton. They tried to put this man in prison for the crime of trying to elevate the American working class.
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It is they who are hellbent on revenge. It is they who have politicized the Justice Department. It is they who think that they are above the law. I don't know if you saw this, but Biden apparently is planning mass preemptive
The Megyn Kelly Show
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pardons, meaning for people who have not even been yet accused of anything, suggesting that if you are elite enough in the Democratic Party, you cannot even be accused of a crime or indicted for a crime or investigated for a crime if you are close enough to the Biden family. I mean, it just it is this from the so-called defenders of democracy. So I think that this is all just pure projection.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I really believe that Trump has no reason not to be this magnanimous version of himself going forward, given the support and the mandate that the American people have given him. He truly is a leader. He is a reflection of what Americans want. And he was that before they knew that in 2016, when we were a little bit more divided around these issues.
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So I think it's going to be a great four years.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I mean, the grunting and the acting and the laughing, like it's clear that this is some sort of sexual fantasy these people have of these ICE agents coming in and them getting into this brawl in this protection of their students. I really want to ask them, why do you not care about the students of yours?
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who have been totally shortchanged by the millions and millions of dollars that are going into ESL to educate students who are not American citizens. Where is the compassion and the empathy for the black students
The Megyn Kelly Show
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who are paying the highest price because of course they always drop these kids in the worst performing poorest neighborhoods where kids who are already getting shortchanged and short shrifted on education are forced to bear the burden of the pieties of these actors and performers. It's so disgusting. And of course, we talk about this a lot on your show, Megan.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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These people are enforcing their open borders woke agenda because they are not themselves paying the price. It's the opposite. The elites have been lining their pockets with the proceeds of this mass migration because it is not them who have to pay for it. They, in fact, are the consumers of illegal labor.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And so they show up as if they are the ones with the higher moral high ground and the pieties and the virtue when actually what they have done is wage class warfare on much poorer Americans and working class Americans who are struggling to give their children the American dream and can't because Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and the Democrats writ large have imported 15 million people to jump the line and take that American dream from them.
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And it is just so unbelievably amazing to see a president show up and say, you don't have to live like this. You are not alone. And the fact that so many Americans are being represented by Donald Trump, that's really where his power comes from. The fact that this is wildly popular power.
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proposals and policies that have purchased not just with Republicans, but also with the vast majority of Democrats. I'll just say one more thing, Megan. I have never seen a person like Tom Homan show up
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so ready and eager to do the job, so qualified from day one with a smile on his face because he doesn't care about the lies they're going to throw at him and the pieties and the garbage that they're going to spout. He knows that he, like President Trump, is representing the best interests of this country and he's going to do it with a smile no matter what they throw at him. That man is a hero.
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And he is so the perfect person for the job, just like President Trump.
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Who is she weeping for? The rapists and murderers who are being deported? Because that's all they've come for so far. Let's just be clear. They have started with murderers and rapists. Those are my people. Why are her people not the victims of the murderers and the rapists, be they migrant victims of murderers and rapists or American victims of murderers and rapists?
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What is wrong with this person that she can look at the scum of the earth that Donald Trump is getting out of this country and repatriating where they came from and say, everything is going poorly for my people. That is woke mindset. You look at the color of the skin rather than the actions, rather than is this person good or evil? They are evil. And she is weeping for them. It's so sad, Megan.
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This woman is the victim of, on the one hand, mass misinformation. By the way, the only people left watching the mainstream media, reading the New York Times and watching MSNBC and CNN are rich people like her who are totally out of touch and don't have a single working class person to tell them, actually, no, those are not our people.
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But OK, you know, it's the mass information and then a mental health crisis that is like Really, really, really deeply, deeply embedded. I saw a tweet the other day about some guy who's tweeting, if my MAGA family comes to me for help, if they're starving in the street, I won't help them.
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That's the combination of mass psychosis from misinformation from the mainstream liberal media and a mental health crisis where people are so... so embedded in these narratives that they cannot tell right from wrong. They have lost their humanity. I mean, to weep over murderers and rapists, it really, my heart goes out to her because this person is so lost.
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I know. It's so sad. I mean, first of all, Drill Baby Drill is going to bring down the price of groceries. It's not going to be immediate, but it's going to happen soon because, of course, energy is a huge component when it comes to the cost of groceries. You have the energy that it costs to grow things, to harvest them. to take care of livestock and then to transport stuff.
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God willing, there will be an end to the war in Ukraine soon. That too will help bring down the cost of groceries undeniably. Yeah, he didn't accomplish it in the first week, but it will happen. The thing that J.D. Vance said that was the most important thing is about wages.
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Inflation is terrible, but it is absolutely crushing the working class most of all because their wages have not kept up with inflation, which means that their money that they work so hard for is not equal to the task of feeding their families anymore.
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Every single one of Donald Trump's economic executive orders was targeted specifically at raising the wages of working class people, which will put more money in their pockets to buy those groceries.
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Now, to rich people in the mainstream liberal media, this is invisible to them because they don't know working class people and they themselves make so much money that they don't understand what it would mean for your wages to not keep up with inflation.
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They don't understand how tariffs are the most beautiful word in the English language, not just to Donald Trump, but to working class people who know that what a tariff does is it makes their labor more competitive to an employer because we're not in a race to the bottom against Chinese slaves.
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They know that controlling the border and the face of Tom Homan means that there's going to be less competition for their job in the marketplace, which is immediately going to give them more power to ask for higher wages from their employer. This is all stuff that is invisible to rich people and is unbelievably important to working class people.
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And it is literally the only thing Donald Trump cares about is he wants a strong economy, which will make working class people have access once again to the American dream. And it is so clear how everything from the tariffs to the trade, to the immigration, to telling any company, you bring your company back here to America, you're going to get 15% corporate tax rate, the lowest in the world.
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This is all designed to raise the wages of working class people, people who work with their hands for a living, people who work in agriculture, people who work in the service industry. He's going to get rid of the foreign competition from illegal migrants. He's going to get rid of the foreign competition from China and its slave labor.
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And this is going to make them have more power in the marketplace. This is how you restore the American dream. And to the leftist elites, it's utterly invisible. And they do not matter, Megan, because the people who matter are the American people. This was the mandate they gave Trump. And in one week, he has made good on it.
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Yeah, exactly. I'm going to try not to go Selena Gomez on you because I, I like many of my followers got very emotional watching that press conference to see a president decide that what he's going to do with the power of his office
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is show up and give his platform to the forgotten, literally the forgotten men and women of America, the backbone of this country, the hardest working people who have been utterly, utterly forgotten by both parties, and then to name and shame the insurance companies that are stiffing them. There is not another politician who I could think of who would do this.
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This is a person whose heart just bleeds for the American people. This was one of the most astonishing things I've ever seen in my entire life as a journalist, as an American. It was absolutely astonishing. You could see the love that went back and forth between the president and these people. These are the people that he was elected to serve. And
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This was his first stop on his way, as you say, Megan, to go and speak to and help the much more affluent people in California. This is a man who intends to be the president of every American, whether you're a broke person in Appalachia or rich person in California, he's going to show up and simply demand better for you. Telegraph the singular message. You are not alone because I am here.
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I never thought I would see something like this. There's something about it that is just unbelievably humbling and pure and godly. And it just, it really, it brings tears to my eyes. I don't quite know how to process what we are seeing here because I don't think it's something any of us
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expected to see and pay close attention to which Democrats recognize this, that there is something happening here to us as a nation. We are coming together in a way that Donald Trump promised we would. He kept saying they kept accusing him. He's going to do revenge. He's going to do this. He's going to do that. And he said our success will be our retribution.
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And that is what we are seeing right now.
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Yes, absolutely. And I think, you know, the fact that the media is trying to run the 2016 playbook and sitting there weeping and in tears over murderers and rapists, it's falling so flat, especially in light of what you just said, Megan, your mom was one of millions of Americans who were Democrats.
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a year ago, two years ago, five years ago, 15 years ago, who have found in the MAGA movement specifically a home, this glorious multiracial, multiethnic working class coalition, thanks to Donald Trump and honestly, Steve Bannon, who played a huge role in this, in explaining to people what was happening here, that this is not white nationalism, this is nationalism. This is love of country.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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This is regular folks, not fancy folks, average, hardworking people who have been screwed over again and again and again, put last again and again and again, and then smeared as racists. for daring to want a better future for their children. This is who Donald Trump represents.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And because of this glorious coming together on November 5th, it is no longer possible for the media and the Democrats to get away with lying on him and smearing him. When they lie about him, they are lying about the American people. And the American people know that. So they just can't get away with it anymore.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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We're really about to enter a glorious new golden era of unity and common ground and coming together around common sense values that this country was built on. The idea that you owe something to your neighbor first. First, that we owe something to our citizens. It has to mean something to be an American.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You can't just give that away to rapists and murderers from Colombia and expect the American people to just take that. We're done with that.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And it's so backwards, of course. You look at the people at that press conference in North Carolina. These are the kind of people who help their neighbors, who have been helping their neighbors, keeping people afloat when the government didn't step in and do it for them. You know, I've been obviously super critical of certain aspects of Elon Musk and Doge and what have you.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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But the idea that some massive government bureaucracy that has failed time and again to equitably distribute aid to the people who most need it knows better what's good for these people than they do themselves is just laughable. And you saw in California how exactly like you said, Megan, Donald Trump was speaking up for people who just wanted to go home and use their own money to
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And try to find their precious belongings that they could salvage, try to clear whatever it is. They want to use their own money to do it. And the government was literally getting involved in Karen Bass not giving them permits to do this. And all Donald Trump said was, why can't they do it? And she goes, oh, well, they can do it in a week. Well, a week is a very long time.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I mean, this is just, this is what he's doing. He is showing up and saying exactly what you wish you could say, but you can't because you have not been given a voice and you have not been given the right to do that. The most obvious commonsensical thing to help people who are suffering.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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First of all, Megan, were the rocks there, the heart rocks? Did she find them?
The Megyn Kelly Show
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I honestly sitting watching Donald Trump sitting there and just calling her on her BS. I did not realize that a president could just do that, could just show up and say, that is not true. I know it's not true. Why don't you tell the truth now? Why don't you change this policy? It's the most radical thing. And it's so obvious and so simple.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You know, if that is all he accomplishes, of course, we know he's doing much, much more than that. But to just show up and say, I am going to be the accountability here. This is It's utterly unacceptable. Let these people into their homes. Let's have a little common sense here. Stop lying to me.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And it's so amazing how she says, you know, first she says they can go to their homes and he says, no, no, they can't. And she says, well, they will be able to go to their homes. Right. The immediate follow up. I mean, this is really and truly amazing. powerful, powerful stuff.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And you made the greatest point, which is whether you're broken Appalachia or rich in California, Donald Trump wants you to thrive. And that is what this presidency is going to be about.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Absolutely. You're totally right, Megan. The common sense theme is such an important one here in terms of understanding where Trump is coming from. I will disagree with that tweet just a little bit. I don't think he's governing like he has no Fs to give. I think he's governing like an assassin who spent the last four years developing a perfect plan and now is executing it
The Megyn Kelly Show
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executive order by executive order by executive order with a kind of confidence and a kind of sort of happy warrior attitude, knowing that he has the American people behind him. And you're totally right. You look at the polling and where Donald Trump is at and whether it's Immigration or tariffs or gender issues or even abortion, this is where most Americans are at.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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The vast majority of Americans are in the sort of radical moderate middle. So people are pretty pro-gay. They're pro-gay marriage. They really like Scott Besant, the highest appointed gay out person in the history of this country, Trump appointee, right? People like to see that, but they really don't like the trans agenda. They really don't like it in schools. They really don't like it in sports.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Right. Common sense. Treat every person with dignity. Don't bring your Mishigas into my child's classroom. Right. It's obvious. Right. Immigrants. Yes. Right. Come here legally. If you have something to contribute that we cannot get from somebody who's native born, sure.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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But if there is a person being left in Appalachia, a brilliant child who's not getting an opportunity or a kid in the inner city who's not getting access to that opportunity, how dare you? The presumption that you're going to come and benefit from the glory of this nation when we haven't lifted up our own neighbors? Forget about that. Mass deportations. You came here illegally. You broke the law.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You are a criminal. We don't owe you anything. You don't have constitutional rights. This is where the vast majority of Americans are at. And it is not an accident that it is where Donald Trump is at.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Honestly, what I think we're about to see is what we're already starting to see a little bit in the liberal media. These people are lemmings. So Hollywood, the liberal media, like everybody, nobody there has a spine. Nobody has any ability to think independently. They walk in lockstep, like a flock of sheep or geese. And I think we're about to see actually a big turnaround.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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You're already seeing this. If you turn on CNN, you'll frequently see people defending Trump. It's amazing. You haven't seen this in a decade. And I think we're going to start seeing that in Hollywood as well. People understand that the nation is just not there with all their garbage, with the activists on the trans front and the open border front. This is not where the nation is.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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And I think that there is this sense already in Hollywood. I mean, I'm sure a lot of these Hollywood stars losing their homes and now having to face like totally disastrous Democrat leadership is going to help a lot. But already you saw at the Golden Globes, there was a kind of almost humility. There was no politicking. They get it. They understand that they are out of touch.
The Megyn Kelly Show
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Yes, well, right. I think we're going to see a big turnaround right now. The lemmings are going to start following in the other direction. That's my prediction. I...