Andrew Isker
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The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
But it was, it was difficult because it was very small church and, and the things that I'm, I'm preaching, right? So I, I, take the pastorate there in 2021. So after the lockdowns, after all of these things, and there's an incredible amount of discontent among Christians because their church has been shut down, their leaders have failed them.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
And so we had many families join us, you know, after that. But, you know, overall, right, the people, you know, in Minnesota, right, they don't they're not used to um the kind of preaching that that i do the kind of um christianity that i have where it's like i no i believe the bible like god is real and he has spoken he's revealed himself to us in the bible And therefore, I believe all of it.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
And I'm not embarrassed by any of it. I'm not going to tiptoe around the things that might be controversial. If anything, I'm going to lean into those things. And I'm going to preach all of it. And that runs totally against the evangelical Christian ethos in America today. Really? Yeah. It's all about, you need to be nice. You need to make Jesus very inoffensive to people.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
And so we wanted to leave there. Many people want to leave places like that. My friend CJ left California, Gavin Newsom State, to come to Tennessee. And so it's a platform to be able to draw all of your friends together. It's like, well, we can kind of live anywhere. Why don't we all live in the same kind of place and bring our families, bring our businesses and build things together?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
And that's how you bring people into your church.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Well, good, yeah.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
That was certainly, you look at like, you know, the 80s and even in the early 90s, like you have the moral majority where they very much were that kind of fire and brimstone and they've been vindicated by everything that has happened.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
But throughout the 90s and early 2000s, they really changed course, right? As the cultural trajectory is changing, right? They they adopted, you know, very seeker sensitive movement where it's like, well, people are. What did you call it? Seeker sensitive movement. What does that mean? It was it was right. The big movement in evangelicalism in the 90s and early 2000s.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
where we're going to make it as easy as possible for people to come into the church and believe in Jesus. And so we're not going to focus on things that might offend them. We're not going to focus on sin and repentance and things like that. We're just, just come on in and have a good time and know that you're welcome here. Come as you are. We'll meet you halfway.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Like that was more or less the... Why do you think they did that? Yeah. I think, you know, a friend of mine, I think I could call him a friend, Aaron Wren, he's written about this like neutral world or negative world, neutral world, positive world where, you know, in the 70s and 80s, Christianity is generally understood culturally as a positive thing.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Like if you said, oh, I go to church, I'm a Christian, I go to that church, people think, oh, that's a good guy. He's an upstanding, decent person. But by the mid-90s, it was sort of neutral, right? It was sort of, well, that's just a cool thing that you do, right? Just like collecting stamps or building model trains or being part of the Lions Club. But by the...
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
You know, by the Obama years, by like 2015, you're in negative world where if you're an evangelical Christian, you are suspect. You're probably a Nazi. You're probably a bigot. You're probably a white supremacist. Right.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
They were not Christians. They love to throw those things around. Nazis are Christians.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
So it's sort of a platform for drawing people that are spread out all throughout the country and can leave these places that are not great. Living in large cities or suburbs where you're just totally disconnected and, you know, really isolated, alienated from normal life. And you can have the American small town experience once again.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
I had to say that. Good to make – yeah, because they'll clip this and they'll say, yeah, oh, Andrew Isker is saying that the Christians are Nazis. But – So that period of time, like there's these widespread cultural shifts in the country. And so I think a lot of it is just in response to that, where you're in that neutral world.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
And so you had figures like Rick Warren or Tim Keller who sort of adapted these things. So Tim Keller is in New York City and he tries to adapt Christianity to Christianity. Your, you know, upper middle class, you know, striver people in New York City were to make it easy for them to come to church.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
So he wouldn't ever talk about homosexuality or if he did, it would be, well, that's not so good for human flourishing. But we're not really going to talk about that too much. There's the former president of the Southern Baptist Convention, J.D. Greer, you know, famously said, said in a sermon, well, the Bible just whispers about sexual sin, but it shouts about financial sin or greed, right?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
So they want to downplay. It shouts about both of them. It does. And the two are connected, right? Yeah. Right. If you're if you're greedy for money, you're also going to be lusting after the flesh like that. The two go hand in hand. And and so but it's to downplay things that the culture does not want to hear. Right. Because you'll be branded as a bigot, as intolerant, as a bad person.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
If you're just like, well, this is what the Bible says like this, you know. Fornicators, adulterers, sodomites, they will not inherit the kingdom of God. If you say, yes, I agree with that, well, you're a bad person. You are outside of polite society if you say those things.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Yeah.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Shout it! You do have to believe it if you're a Christian. Exactly! If you claim that this is the Bible, that God spoke this. I agree. And so they're very fearful of those kinds of things. But, I mean, the interesting thing now that we're in, you know, what Wren calls negative world is...
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
um is that young men um who who were kind who were raised most of them like raised secular right they went through the the whole new atheism thing um they never went to church they never grew up i mean i i talked to so many guys so so many young men you know i i see you connect with me on on x and and places like that where they're like hey i was not part of the church at all i was not a christian
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
And I see all of the evil everywhere. Right. I see the things like you're talking about, like they they are sacrificing babies. I guess they care about this more than anything else. The ability to murder a baby. They see things like the Ukraine war where it's like our rulers just decided to have a war. Yes. And kill millions of people for absolutely no reason.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Yeah. I mean, it's funny because most of the people that you talk to are like when they espouse kind of atheist ideas. Right. They'll retreat. It's kind of a Mott and Bailey thing where they'll retreat to. Well, I really I'm agnostic. I don't really know for sure. Right. So there's very few people, very few, especially now that are like, you know, I'm an atheist. There definitely is no God. Right.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
What do they say to that? I remember... I remember watching, you know, a previous guest of yours, actually the man who trained me in ministry, Doug Wilson. Yeah. Debate. Wonderful man.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Oh, yes. And they had that discussion. Right. And it was it was shocking to watch Hitchens say, well, it's, you know, it's common human experience, you know, you know, solidarity with mankind. That's why I think murder is wrong. And of course, Doug says to him, well, you know, well, if you saw someone being like murdered on the street, you think that's bad, right? Well, why?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
And he goes into his whole spiel. And he's like, well, what if, what if it's a pregnant woman and her baby's being murdered? Right. You would just say, well, no, no, you need to have a medical license for that to kill that person. Right. What did Christopher say? He's like, oh, you're being flippant. You wouldn't go down that road.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Yeah. Like, what is that? Yeah. Well, I think so much of it is atheism really is – An atheist moralizer.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
You know, for us, it was... Are you from there? I'm from there, yeah. Born and raised in Waseca, Minnesota. My children were the sixth generation of our family that lived in that town. Oh, gosh. And... In the town? In that town, yeah. In the town of Waseca. Are your ancestors buried there? Yeah, there's six generations that are buried there. Even one of my own children that passed.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Well, it's a Christian heresy. Like they want to have all the things of Christianity just without God there, right? So they want to be able to pursue all of these things, right? They want to be able to say this is right and this is wrong but have no authority to ground it on, right? Just by their say-so, right? It's so fractious though. Conundrum, yeah, yeah. What? It's wrong. Okay, why?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Yeah, you can see why it's breaking down, though, today.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Yeah, it creates this vacuum and it's being replaced by something. So all of the moralistic energy is still there. And now it's gone to things like transgenderism, abortion, Gaza, whatever. It goes to all of those routes. It goes to... You know, BLM and rioting. Yes, that's right. And so it's highly religious. It's in us.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Yeah. Yeah. It's fundamentally human. Absolutely.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Yeah, yeah.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
That was one of the hardest days of my life. I believe it. To tell them I'm leaving. I'm going to Tennessee. And it was difficult. I still have a connection with them, relationship with them. I'm still trying to find them a pastor to replace me. Right. It's hard to. It's hard for me to do that because, like, well, you left, Andrew. Why do you want me to go there now? But they need one.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
And they're wonderful, wonderful people who have blessed me immensely. And I just told them that, you know, I... I have to leave Minnesota. Um, there is, um, there's a place for me there in, in Tennessee. And, um, it's, it's ultimately, you know, what is best for my family's future, right?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
There, there's a place where, where my children, you know, can grow up because part of it too is, it isn't just the things that, that we're leaving, you know, the political cultural things that we're leaving in Minnesota, but it's also, um, you know, over all the things that have been done to the Midwest, to everywhere, where my children will grow up.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
And if they want to have, you know, a career and a life and a family and a success of their own, there just isn't much for them in small town Midwest. And so they'll all just fly the coop. Like, I mean, this is what happened, like when I graduate from high school, Most of the people that I grew up with, they all left. They went to the Twin Cities.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
They went to other cities for work and for careers. And so that same thing was likely going to happen with my children. And I look at it and I think, well, my family's been here for six generations. And whether... it's going to end here. Right. And I want, I want to be in a place where we can continue that, where we can be rooted, where, where my children have the ability to stay in a place.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
And, and so, so many, so many friends are, are coming to, to Tennessee where, where we are. They're bringing businesses there. And once you, you know, build things at scale, like the more stuff you're able to do, the more businesses you're able to have, the more opportunity is for, for young people. Right.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
and and so right if if my children want to stay where we are and continue that on uh generation after generation like we we actually will be able to do that right that's it isn't it wasn't so much just okay we need to leave minnesota but it's also we're being drawn to a place for a particular reason the tennessee dream there's a future there yeah yeah yeah the the hope of refugees from time immemorial yeah
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
I mean, there are a handful of churches there that are very strong. There are Christians there that oppose these things, but they're so, so vastly outnumbered. Like when I went to the state capitol to oppose the abortion bill, There were lots of activists on both sides, pro-life activists and pro-ritual sacrifice activists. But there were no other pastors there.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
We lived a couple blocks away from the cemetery where all of my ancestors were buried. Oh, gosh. Oh, that's very heavy to leave a place like that. Yes. And it was after the 2022 election. where the Democrats took control of the state Senate finally, and Tim Walz could do whatever he wanted to do. The first thing he passed was, in the wake of the Dobbs decision,
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
I think one of the Catholic bishops did a Skype call, Zoom call. But beyond that, there were no other pastors. And I'm thinking, like, my church is like 30, 40 people. I do this, you know, it's a tent make. I do it. Thank you. Thank you.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Thank you.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Full, full abortion allowance, even up to birth. Like, you know, there were the stories during the election about, you know, even like post-birth abortions that took place in Minnesota. I went to the to the state capitol and and spoke to the the first committee when that bill was being heard. And and I mean, maybe maybe, you know, later your guys can pull up that video.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Thank you.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
But I just went there and said, like, hey, you you think you won an election. You think you can do this and just murder children. But. God is not mocked. Like, he's going to come with vengeance about what you're doing. The consequences.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Thank you. Thank you.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Yeah, they're like all these, you know, 60-year-old liberal ladies, senators, you know, are looking at me, scoffing at me, and just staring daggers at me and hating what I'm saying. How dare he come, this Christian nationalist.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
I tell them, well, Leviticus is. And they're like, what, really? And I'm like, yeah, like, I mean, I'm a pastor. My calling is to preach the gospel and to lead worship. And that book right there, All of it is about how do sinful people draw near and approach the presence of a holy, just, righteous God that cannot bear sin at all. And there it's laid out for us, all of it.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
And even like you look at – Leviticus chapter nine, like you read that and maybe you remember reading it. I'm actually going through this with my church right now in Tennessee, but Leviticus chapter nine is the entire liturgy of the church right there. Each of the sacrifices and all of the like Western liturgy for 2000 years basically follows it, right? You're called into the presence of God.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Yeah, and so that's the first bill that they passed. The second bill. And these are the first two legislative priorities that they had. The second one was a trans rights bill, which allowed the state to take your child out of their custody or your parents' custody if you opposed a transition. And my oldest child is 12. A minor child. Minor child, yeah. My oldest son, he's 12 years old.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
You confess your sins. I mean, probably like your Episcopalian upbringing, Book of Common Prayer, like you probably track with this, right?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Maybe they didn't have a confession of sin of yours, but there's a confession of sin. Right. Then there's an ascension, right? The ascension offering in chapter one of Leviticus, right? The entire, the worshiper puts his hand on the animal, right? Saying like, this animal's me. And then the entire thing is consumed, is burned up, right? Ola, right? Where the word Holocaust comes from.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Consumed, burned up, goes up to God in smoke. And that's you, right? And then the New Testament where it says, right, the word of God is living and active sharper than any two-edged sword. Well, it's the sword of the priest that cuts the animal and puts it on the altar and burns it up. Well, that's what's happening when the church hears the Bible read and hears it preached, right?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
You're being cut up by the word of God and ascending up to God in smoke. And then the next part of the service is the peace offering. Well, that's communion, right? You sit down and have a meal with God and then you're sent out, right? The entire liturgy is right there. Like our actual worship that we do now, right? After the death of Jesus and resurrection of Jesus, right?
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Sacrifice is done away with because he is that sacrifice. And we're going through all of that each time we worship and renew the covenant with God. And like you see that in Leviticus and it's like, whoa, actually there's so much to learn here in this book about what we are doing every Sunday when we worship God. So I'm like, yeah, this, of course, that's my favorite book, right?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Not just because I'm autistic and like lots of rules and regulations. It's like reading the instructions on the Monopoly game. It's there. So much is happening. It's beautiful.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
He says that obviously because he grew up and is reared and absorbed by osmosis, like Christian culture where that's prohibited.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Well, even like you think about this, there's a pastor, theologian, brilliant guy, Peter Lightheart, who wrote a book, Delivered from the Elements of the World. Yeah. And in that, he shows, I mean, there's tons of just amazing stuff in this book.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
But one of the things that he shows is that, right, God makes these restrictions for Israel in the old covenant that sets them apart as this holy people, as the priestly people. And – but elsewhere in the world, right, they all have something like that, right?
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
All throughout the ancient world, right, their gods had something like a funhouse mirror version of Leviticus where it's like, okay, right, here's all these rules about sex and what makes you clean and unclean and food you can't eat and can't eat. Like the Egyptians had this, the Babylonians, the Persians, the Greeks, all of them have these kinds of – The Mayans, the Incas, the Aztecs.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
The Norse, like my ancestors, the Germanics, like they all had these rules. And it's, well, it's because in the ancient world, right, they're all under their own particular gods. Right. And what Jesus does is he comes and he takes the world back from Satan and from all the demons that ruled over the ancient world. And now he's reigning over heaven. That's actually like the book of Revelation.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
That's actually like what's going on in that book. The much maligned book of Revelation. Yeah, like I know you had John Rich on last year, and he's talking about dispensationalism and things like that. And I was like, oh, I'm going to be in Tennessee. I need to meet him and talk to him about this. Did you? I haven't. No, I have no way of getting in touch with him.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Maybe after this, if he's watching.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
He has autism. We homeschool all the rest of our children, but we don't have the resources to be able to educate him with his autism. And so he goes to special ed. And I'm well aware, especially if you see the things that happened in 2020, 2021, all of the activism, trans stuff in the schools, right? All the libs of TikTok kind of stuff.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Oh, I love – I mean, he was – Like the soundtrack of my youth of country music, like he wrote all those songs, right? So on that basis alone, right? But he's talking about like dispensationalism and what has happened in American Christianity for the last 130 years, how it's actually a novel new thing. And for me, it was like... Yeah, I looked at that.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
I mean, I remember growing up and that's just everything like left behind and the rapture is coming and all of that. So I missed all of that. Yeah, yeah. I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, it's a thing like especially and of course, like I'm very critical of it. But like these are the. These are the best people in America that believe it.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Like the people that have like six Trump flags on the back of their truck. Oh, I totally agree. Like they also believe that, well, the rapture is coming tomorrow. We need to be ready for it. And so anytime I'm critical of it, I'm like, okay, I'm not critical of the people. Like there's not a moral defect that they believe these things.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Yeah. Right.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Yeah. And so like and so like whenever I'm critical of that theology, I'm like, I have to make sure people know, like, I'm not criticizing you because you're great, awesome people. Like even when I when I first went to the town in Gainsborough before we decided, you know, before we made our move. It was right after the hurricane, which it wasn't far from there.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
And this is a town that like they don't have a whole lot. The median income is not very high in this town, but I'm driving around and every gas station. Where is it? Gainsborough, Tennessee is in Jackson County. It's like north central Tennessee. OK. And yeah.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
And so every gas station, every gas station has like signs up like, hey, we're going to we're going to Western North Carolina to go help out. And it's like. People that don't have a whole – they're taking their time and what little money they have to go help people. And meanwhile, the Biden administration is sending billions more to Ukraine and to Israel and everything.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
And they're taking their time. It's like these are wonderful people. They are.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
And you see it reciprocated.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Well, and it's the people that are, you know, the most maligned in our country. Like. Like the only people you can make fun of are like rural southern Appalachian people. Right. That's free game. You can criticize them all you want and mock them. Like, you know, Jimmy Kimmel can can make fun of them all day long on his show. No other group of people can you do that for.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
And and they're the people that have been have been dispossessed of their country the most. And, and you, I like, that's just a big reason why we moved to this place is these are the people that are hated. I want to go live with them. Yes. I want to be around these because they're great people.
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That the majority of like trans children are on the autism spectrum, right? These children are targeted, right? And I'm thinking, okay, he doesn't talk about school. He doesn't talk about home at school. He categorizes all of his life. He just won't do it. So I would have no way of knowing like what is going on. There they could be putting him in a dress and calling him a girl name.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah, absolutely. And so I think about that, right? And I think about the theology that has shaped their outlook. And it's understandable because especially in the midst of serious decline, it's like, well, actually – it's sort of attractive to have this eschatology where everything is coming to an end. You can understand why people would eat that up.
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But the people that actually built America, the Puritans and all of the settlers of this country, you think of even the founding generation, that theology did not exist yet. That wasn't until the middle of the 19th century that it came into being. They were actually optimistic. They viewed this continent as... As a place for Christians to build, to grow, to have a future.
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What an interesting point.
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Yeah. So I think if, I mean, if you think, if you go your entire life believing that any minute the world is going to come to an end, that I'm going to float up into heaven and my clothes will be here and, and everything, everything we were gone, it's, it's done. It's over. Um,
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Well, that takes a people that ordinarily are very low time preference, that build things for the future, that delay gratification, all of those kinds of things, and it flips it around and makes them very high time preference. Where it's like, well, if the world's not going to be around tomorrow, why invest in anything for today? And you can even see this in terms of architecture.
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You think of the buildings that churches have, right? Well, they're in strip malls or they're, you know, just they're kind of ugly. It's garbage. Yeah. And you look at the buildings that... It's like a former pet store in a strip mall. Yeah, yeah. And you look at the buildings that Christians had before this was the dominant theology, and they're gorgeous. They're beautiful.
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And there were very poor people that made them, like you said earlier.
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And... And it's like that right there, like you see it tangibly that, and you think about that in terms of all of life. That is so smart. And what was the phrase you used, low time preference? Yeah, low time preference. What does that mean? It's like an economic phrase, right? So, right, your preference in terms of time. Please respect my ignorance. No. Yes.
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It just means that you you're going to wait longer for things. It's sort of like the marshmallow test with little kids. Right. Yes.
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Where the one where they get five minutes, you'll get two marshmallows or you can eat this one right now. Right. Well, the child that says, oh, I'll wait. I want to. Right. Well, he's going to go on and have more success and so forth. Right. versus the one that immediately grabs the one and eats it, right? Well, that's low time preference.
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It's people that will delay gratification, who will save and invest and build things for the long term, for the future. And for future generations. Yes, yes. They plant oak trees. Yes. Who plants oak trees? Yeah, well, I mean, we're going to in Tennessee. We want to bring back the American chestnut in Tennessee.
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And I would have no idea. And then when I find out and I oppose it, right, boom, CPS comes, takes him out of our custody and he's gone forever. And they can.
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We want to bring that back. Are you putting in evergreens, please? Oh, I think everything. Yeah. I mean, there's pines.
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Yeah, I don't know if we'll be able to. Well, okay, okay. Now we're going to get into ecology.
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Cedar, yeah, from Lebanon. Exactly.
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God himself said cedar.
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Yeah, yeah. It smells great.
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Just think of it like the temple. It's my senior church. That's right.
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No, no.
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Yeah, I mean, like John Nelson Darby and Cyrus Schofield, and it's, and there's, I mean, they'll claim that they're antecedents from the early church. Well, this guy believed in something like the rapture, and it's like, it's always very, like you said, specious.
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Yeah, so it's not quite that. It's not the Oneida community? Yeah, we're not building some kind of Anabaptist community. Okay, you're not the Shakers. No. No. No, really, it's, you know, it's a company, you know, Ridge Runner is purchasing land and sort of facilitating a lot of things.
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No. Doesn't end well for anybody. No, I don't. I don't. I don't want to go down that road. No, no, nobody does.
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Yeah, exactly. People sincerely believe it, so I'm going to mock them. A hundred percent.
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Is that what you're saying? Yeah, I think so. And it also... Yeah, so it forces you into an immediacy, right? We've got to do everything right now because there isn't going to be a future. There's not going to be... I mean, I heard this all the time growing up. Well, you know, we're not going to be around. We're going to be raptured. So why plan for the future? Why build things for the future?
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You heard that growing up? Oh, yeah. This was just everywhere in evangelicalism. Did you grow up in that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did. And I remember... I remember in college when I was first getting into more historical theology or thinking like, what did people believe before the 19th century about things?
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And so it's like we need to we need to get out of here. Right. We cannot trust the whole system with our child. They could they could steal him from us. This could happen. I don't want to be the test case for that. I don't want to go through the legal battles and do all those fights. I want my son. I don't want to live in a place where that's even conceivable that that could happen to you.
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Yeah. What did they – well, there were various different eschatological schools. Like there's all sorts of different views of how the end works. But when I first get into that, I'm thinking like, oh, I don't know if I actually believe in the rapture. I remember being in college and in campus ministry and telling people this. Like, I don't know if I actually believe in that.
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I mean, it was like I just uttered the greatest heresy of all time. Like I could have said, I probably could have said, well, you know, just denied the Trinity or something, right? And they would have been like, oh, well, that's interesting. But saying, I don't think there's a rapture. What? Are you serious? Right? Like that is central doctrine to many Christians.
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And it has this deep emotional connection. Because, I mean, if you've grown up your entire life hearing this, And it's just assumed by everybody. Right. It's hard to break out of that, even though the everybody of the historic church of millions or billions of Christians. Right. It's actually a tiny minority in the history of the church that has believed that.
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But presently, it's a majority of evangelicals.
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No, I think your instincts are correct. I think some of it is—I mean, some of it, too, especially in the latter half of the 20th century, right, after Israel is formalized as a state in 1948, well, that gives, like, big confirmation that, okay, things are happening, like— There's an Israel in Revelation and a temple in Revelation. So it's happening, guys. So we've got 40 years, right?
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1988, that's the end. Well, then that doesn't happen. And then people make all sorts of other guesses.
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Yeah, 40 years after 1948. Right. That that's when the rapture is coming. That was a you know, I think it was there was a book like 88 reasons why Jesus is coming back in 1988. Right. And I'm sure it sold a lot of copies. And then. of course, didn't happen. Wow. Mike Takakis lost.
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For people in Massachusetts, maybe it was. But, yeah, it's just so interesting because I look at it, like you look at Matthew 24, right? That's the big text that people point to What does it say? Where Jesus says, well, there's going to be wars and rumors of wars and earthquakes in various places and plagues and things like that. But right before it, right, when Jesus is in the temple,
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And he's fighting with the chief priests and he's telling them, you know, he's just he's fighting with them at Passover. So thousands of people surrounding them, he's embarrassing them in the temple.
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Yes.
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It comes right off the page. And which is so ironic because you see evangelicals who are like, you need to be more Christlike, right? You need to be, which means like wimpy and weak and inoffensive. Sweeping into the temple and knocking over tables and driving people out with a whip. And then going into the temple and giving this parable. Right, of the vineyard.
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He's like, first I sent this servant, you beat him and stoned him, and then you killed another one. Well, I'll send my son. They'll respect him. And then it's the heir, right? If we kill him, we could take the vineyard for ourselves, right? And he asked him, what's he going to do to these people? Well, he's going to come and he's going to destroy all of them. And it's like and they knew. Right.
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It's insane. And so it was at that moment, I'm like, we need to get out of this state. It's not a place where I can raise my children. And I'm thinking like long-term,
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The hilarious thing, I think, like reading the Gospels is right. Jesus is giving parables. And the point of the parables is actually to conceal what he's saying. And people are like, well, what's that? Even his own disciples like, well, what's that about? I don't really know. It doesn't make any sense. But he's telling parables to the chief priests and the Pharisees and all the leaders of Israel.
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And they're like, oh, that's about us.
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They knew. It does. And they decided to kill him. Yeah. So the parables are, like, obscure to everybody else. But when it's about them, like, oh, he's talking about us, right?
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But he's there. He's right there. And especially the gospel of Matthew. I love it because it is. But Mark too. All four. I mean, obviously all four of them. But like Matthew in particular is so cool to me because like you read it and the way it's organized is Jesus is recapitulating the entire history of Israel.
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right so um right in the very beginning he he goes out into the wilderness for 40 days and 40 nights right just like israel's in the wilderness for 40 years right it's tempted by satan um he comes right uh after after he crosses the or goes is baptized in the jordan is like crossing the red sea goes into the wilderness then after that right he is
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He's preaching a sermon on a mountain, expounding the law, which is Moses on Sinai, right? And after this, he's telling parables of the kingdom, like he's David or like he's Solomon, writing Proverbs, writing Psalms. And then he begins all of these excoriations of the high priesthood and the Pharisees and all the leaders of Israel. Well, what's that like? It's like the prophets, right?
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right um we yeah we've been in this place for six generations but and it's a wonderful town you know amazing place i mean it's home i love the people there and you know many of them are going to be watching this and well you must know all of them
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So, he's reliving the whole history of Israel in his lifetime. What's Matthew doing there? What's the Holy Spirit doing there? It's showing that Jesus is Israel. He's the true Israel. He is the, as the Apostle Paul says, he's the chosen seed of Abraham. He's the one that carries out Israel's mission. which is, you know, I'm kind of doing the weave too, like doing the weave. It's Trumpian. It is.
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I mean, when I'm preaching, people are like, Andrew, you're doing the weave like President Trump. But like Trump, it's interesting. I try not to do the hand motions and things like him too, but we all have our own rhetorical style. But it's interesting because Right. Like the whole dispensational thing where it's like, OK, right. The old covenant still somehow sort of exists.
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And there's still this, you know, this distinction between Jew and Gentile out there. Well, like the whole New Testament talks about this, that no. Right. Those that that separation exists. that existed in the old covenant, right?
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They're brought together as one in Jesus, who is the true Israel, the successful Israel, the Israel that's obedient and goes to the death and is vindicated by being resurrected, right? And that old covenant, it's done. It's over, right? Those distinctions between Jew and Gentile, they're gone.
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Yeah, and exactly. Whether you believe it or not, that's just not what it says at all. Yeah, and so you think about that, and it's like, okay, these two are brought together. I mean, the whole book of Acts is about this, right? That the Holy Spirit not only goes to the apostles and the Jews in Jerusalem, But the Gentiles get it too. Like Peter goes to Cornelius and he believes.
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And now here is this Roman, right, this Gentile. And the interesting thing about that too is there's this misconception that the only people in the Old Testament that believed in God were Jews. But it's like everywhere they go, there are these Gentile God-fearers that believe in God. And Cornelius is one of them in the New Testament.
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Yeah.
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Yes. Repeatedly.
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Yes. Yes. Again, like, I mean, he says this in the Gospels. Like, he's talking about, right, the faithful or faithless and adulterous generation, right? He's talking about Israel. And he's saying... In the resurrection, right, Sodom and Gomorrah and Tyre and Sidon, they'll rise, right? Sodom, destroyed for trying to rape angels.
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From my youth, you know, you go to the store and you see, you know, my wife and children hated when I would go to the store because it would take, you know, an hour to get a thing of milk because I'd just stop and talk to people I've known my whole life. Oh, I love that. And it's a wonderful play. Like, it's hard to leave that, right? Because it's, you know it.
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They will rise up in judgment on this generation because if the things that I'm doing, right, if the Son of God appeared to them... And preach to them, they would have repented, right? And Nineveh, right, this Gentile city in the Old Testament of Assyrians, right, brutal, bloodthirsty people, right, Jonah shows up.
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And he preaches, and his only message is, in 40 days, Nineveh is going to be destroyed, right? He's gleeful about this. And the king hears about it. He repents. He makes all the people in the city wear sackcloth and ashes. And it's like, well, I don't really know what's going to happen, but this looks serious. We better repent. And, and it, I mean, we're going to go into deep weeds here.
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If you let me, you know, this is, I'm not filibustering like, like president Putin did, but, but right. You look at the book of Jonah in particular. He is – he flees not because he's afraid of the Assyrians, right? Like that's the – what people think is like he's scared to go there. No. Like you read the end of the book of Jonah and he's arguing with God at the end and he's saying, I knew this.
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that you would show mercy on these people. I knew you would show them mercy. That's why I didn't want to go. He was trying to outwit God, like trick God into not being gracious to these Gentiles because he knows in Christ, In the law, in Deuteronomy, one of the signs that Israel is about to be cursed is that he is going to call nations, the Gentiles, nations that do not know him, to himself.
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He's going to go to the Gentiles and away from Israel. And that means judgment is going to come upon Israel. So Jonah knows this. And he's like, I am going the opposite direction. I'm going to Tarshish, to Spain. Because I am not going to let God judge my people, right? That's why he's angry about this. And it gets even more interesting because Jesus talks about the sign of Jonah to Israel.
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And people think, oh, well, Jonah, he's talking about the resurrection, being in the ground for three days and three nights. And it's like, I mean, that's symbolic. That's typological. He's drawing on the typology. But it's not about that. It's that what's going to happen? Gentiles are going to hear the gospel and not you. And that judgment is going to come on Israel.
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Judgment is going to come on this generation. And that's what Jesus says at the beginning of Matthew 24 is... These things are going to happen in this generation, right? He's walking with the disciples in the temple and they're, they're marveling at the, we would marvel too. I mean, beautiful.
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You're familiar with everything and all of the people and just the way of life. Yeah. Gosh, that's where your family's buried.
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Like the whole thing is clad in gold on the outside is gorgeous, beautiful, giant, massive stones that you, it boggles your mind how human beings could move these things and build this stuff without, you know, modern power tools, right? They're marveling at the, the temple and, And Jesus is like, what are you looking at?
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Do you not know that not one stone is going to be left upon another very soon? And they're like, oh boy, when's this going to happen? Well, 37 years later, actually. Yeah, well, I think we can debate. Well, whenever. 40 years later. Okay, 40 years later, but I mean. I'll be autistic on that point.
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I think the resurrection is in 30. I mean, we're coming up on 2,000 years for that. The point is.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
No. So, so really it's, it's a, you know, a real estate venture to build, to build communities, to build, and, and I'm even hesitant, you know, to call it like subdiv, because it's not subdivisions. It'll be, It's large properties, you know, two, three, 10 acre lots where people... Has someone already bought the land? Yes. Yes. The Ridge Runners bought the parcels.
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It's being divided up and sold, you know, as we speak. And one of them, you know, my church is going to build a church like right at the center. And so it's... So imagine, you know, so there's kind of two kinds of development that happen or really just one kind. It's just build massive cul-de-sac subdivisions. Right. Houses for black rock.
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I can't. I can't stay in a place like that. There's no future for my children, for my family, in a place that's that far gone, that has been destroyed. And you see so many of these other states, California, Washington, adopted all the same things that Walz's Minnesota did.
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That kind of thing. Yes. And like that's not how America was built. No. Like my town. It's founded in the middle of the 19th century. And the first thing that gets built, like everywhere else, were churches and schools. And that's not featured anywhere in any subdivisions or real estate developments at all.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You see all these ones. I mean, I've seen some of the plans in like places around like the Dallas-Fort Worth area where it's like they have a lazy river and they have all these nice amenities like that. There's never like a church, right? There's never anything that the old America once had.
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And and so, yeah, my my church is going to build its building, their families from all over the country. Some of them know me. I've known them and they've been dying to get out of their their blue state city, you know, horrible existence out of the traditional subdivision. Into a place where they can have land, where they can have some chickens, maybe a cow, live like Americans used to.
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And be out in nature and enjoy beautiful things. To build something like that, because that's happening everywhere. It's development, especially in Tennessee. It's like here in Florida. Yeah. Just exploding, right? So many people moving there because they're trying to get out of these places. And so what gets built, right? Black rock style subdivisions and just hideous buildings. Hideous.
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Yeah, and very anti-human, right? And so this is development that is human scaled. It's built for people to enjoy actual life, right? For people to... To congregate in the same area where they hold similar values, right? You don't want to live in a place where everybody hates you and hates what you think and hates that you love Donald Trump, you love your country, you love your God.
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I've done that. Yeah. You don't. You don't want that. And tons of people, it was like, oh, wouldn't it be great if I had neighbors that, you know, we pretty much agreed on everything. We agree on everything politically, culturally, all of that. And then you don't even have to talk about it. It's just have normal life together, right? Your kids can play with their kids and grow up together, right?
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That's the kind of thing that, you know, that's being built there in Tennessee. Yeah. And so I'm so excited to be a part of it.
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They're praising the Muslim communities in Texas, for instance.
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I think, I mean, for all of them, the political power was captured by the left, political and cultural power. I mean, I went to college in Minnesota in the early 2000s, and you could see the seeds of all of these things, right, beginning to form. And so all of the institutions were captured, and especially culturally in Minnesota. People are very nice, right? It's not a myth.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Minnesota nice is very real. And the ethos is if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all, which I just swim completely against that tide.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Yes. Yeah, they're very kind, people that are, to a fault, unwilling to give offense. Yes. And very tolerant of other people. Yes, they are. And that gets taken advantage of. So they take our best qualities and subvert them against us. Yes, yes. And you can see that in other places too, like on the West Coast as well, right? And especially with like Christians, this is done all of the time.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
I know. Right? Where you're told, well, we need to love other people and be kind and be Christ-like. And that ethos gets subverted and used to these ends, right? Where, well, how dare you talk about these things? How dare you talk about these things from the pulpit, these things going on? It offends a lot of people.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Never. But it leaves them defenseless a little bit, I think. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, I mean, maybe I'm maybe I'm unique. You know, maybe my personality type is is such that I just I can't do that. I can't see like evil stuff happening, taking place and not say something about it. Not say this is this is insane. Like, how could we I mean, just think 100 years ago.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
And that's sort of, you know, my book is, right, if you go back 100 years and you think about your great-great-grandfather and you told him, hey, they're going to take little kids and little boys and remove their genitals and turn them into girls, right? Are you okay with that? Do you think that's all right? Like, what would they do if that was even proposed? I thought
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
That's right. I can't believe we have that. Yeah, we're bringing that back. They would go insane. They would fight. They'd become violent if that were happening. And we're like, well, you know, I really want to keep my job, so I'll put the pronouns in my email signature and on my LinkedIn. You know, I'll just go along to get along.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Yeah.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
That's the way it feels to me. Yes, absolutely. It is. And that's part of it too, I think. The things that happened, like when I was in college in the early 2000s, you know, you had the new atheism and, and everyone was like, it was just cool to be an atheist. Like, oh, I'm agnostic. I don't, I don't really believe. Who is that?
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Like you're familiar with the big sort where people are leaving, you know, blue states to go to red states and things like that, where it's along those lines where people are leaving. Like I left Minnesota, a very blue state. Everyone's now familiar with our governor in that state, Tim Walz. Don't hire him to babysit. No, I would not. He would be the last person. Yes, I think so.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
He was a marvelous guy, but totally wrong on this.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
No, there's another one, whatever, who's always running around. Like today, like James Lindsay is one of those types.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
He's... He is a – this atheist guy that opposed wokeness and things like that but wants just a free liberal society like it's 1995.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
It's not whether but which. There will be one. And that's part of it. It's like the new atheism, all of those things that broke down religion. You know, Christian mores and Christian, you know, just cultural Christianity that was imbued all throughout the American public life takes all of that down. But then there's a vacuum and that vacuum gets filled up. And what's it been filled up with?
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Insane stuff like this child sacrifice, you know, all of it. It is a new religion. It isn't a question of like, well, we're just going to have pluralism. We're not going to have any dominant religion. No, there will be one. There will be a God that you serve. And the one that we are serving now is some kind of demon.
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Andrew Isker: Building a Christian Refuge to Fight Wokeness, Transgenderism, and Paganism
Yeah, I was pastoring a church. Oh, gosh. Yeah. Yes. Literally. Okay. Yes. So you're involved in church. Yes, I am. Yeah. And it's a church with wonderful people. And, you know, they're there because they... you know, more or less think like I do. They like, like hearing what I preach, you know, they like, they like all of these things. And, and so it's extremely difficult to leave them as well.