Ambassador Nate Fick
Appearances
To Catch a Thief: China’s Rise to Cyber Supremacy
Ep 5: A Cyber Detente
like it or not, in the digital domain, we're kind of stuck with each other. One of the things that diplomacy can do is to make clear that we know what you're doing. We know what your intent is behind it. Here's the evidence. And here's why we believe it's outside the bounds of responsible state behavior.
To Catch a Thief: China’s Rise to Cyber Supremacy
Ep 5: A Cyber Detente
So, diplomacy, of course, also requires that people pick up the phone. You know, it takes two. And I think one of the challenges with the PRC, with China, in the last couple of years has been it hasn't always felt like we had a willing interlocutor.
To Catch a Thief: China’s Rise to Cyber Supremacy
Ep 5: A Cyber Detente
If you remember last year, there was a missile that detonated in Poland and it killed a Polish farmer. And shortly after that happened, there was speculation in real time that it was a Russian missile. Well, the phone rang at the State Department and it was the Russians.
To Catch a Thief: China’s Rise to Cyber Supremacy
Ep 5: A Cyber Detente
And the basic message was, we don't know what that was, but it wasn't us, which was a really important piece of information for NATO at that moment.