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Mark Manson: The Hard Truth About Success & Happiness | Human Behavior | E342

Mon, 17 Mar 2025

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Mark Manson spent his twenties traveling the world, chasing success, and observing human psychology and behavior. Through years of blogging, he built a loyal audience and landed his first book deal. By 32, he had surpassed all his career goals, including becoming a bestselling author. But the massive success of The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck came faster than he expected, leaving him lost and questioning his purpose. In this episode, Mark returns with his refreshingly blunt insights on success, happiness, and fulfillment. He shares actionable strategies for personal development and explains why chasing the wrong goals leads to disappointment. In this episode, Hala and Mark will discuss:  (00:00) Introduction (01:29) How Traveling Shaped His Mindset (05:11) From Blogging to Bestselling Author (15:44) Why Happiness is Overrated (18:20) Navigating His Rapid Career Growth  (22:21) The Psychology of Passion and Skill (24:29) Reinventing Himself as an Entrepreneur (27:02) The Value of Love and Marriage (31:11) Why Dating Apps Fail You (34:24) Tips on Building Lasting Relationships (39:20) How to Make the Right Commitment (41:42) Turning Writing into a Successful Business (47:58) Scaling a Business Across Multiple Platforms Mark Manson is a three-time New York Times bestselling author and entrepreneur. His books, including The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck, have sold over 20 million copies in 75+ languages worldwide. He has also built a thriving online business, offering courses, podcasts, and one of the most popular self-improvement newsletters. Known for his brutal honesty and dry humor, Mark is a leading voice in personal growth and mindset. Sponsored By: Shopify - youngandprofiting.co/shopify Open Phone - openphone.com/profiting Airbnb - airbnb.com/host Indeed - indeed.com/profiting    RobinHood - robinhood.com/gold Factor - factormeals.com/factorpodcast   Rakuten - rakuten.com Microsoft Teams - aka.ms/profiting Active Deals - youngandprofiting.com/deals   Resources Mentioned: Mark Manson: Next-Level Adulting | E65: https://youngandprofiting.co/3QTorz0  Mark’s Book, The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck: https://amzn.to/41Rwq5Y  Mark’s Book, Everything Is F*cked: https://amzn.to/4izRx27  Mark’s Podcast, The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck: https://bit.ly/3Dgjw8l  Key YAP Links Reviews - ratethispodcast.com/yap  Youtube - youtube.com/c/YoungandProfiting  LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/htaha/  Instagram - instagram.com/yapwithhala/  Social + Podcast Services: yapmedia.com  Transcripts - youngandprofiting.com/episodes-new  Entrepreneurship, Entrepreneurship Podcast, Business, Business Podcast, Self Improvement, Self-Improvement, Personal Development, Starting a Business, Strategy, Investing, Sales, Selling, Psychology, Productivity, Entrepreneurs, AI, Artificial Intelligence, Technology, Marketing, Negotiation, Money, Finance, Side Hustle, Mental Health, Career, Leadership, Mindset, Health, Growth Mindset, Positivity, Critical Thinking, Robert Greene, Chris Voss, Robert Cialdini, Mark Manson

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Chapter 1: How did traveling shape Mark Manson's mindset?

01:41 - 01:55 Mark Manson

I write self-help for people who hate self-help. My book, The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck, it sold a million copies, I think, within six or eight months. I never planned for anything after this in my life, and I'm only 32 years old, so what the hell am I supposed to do next?

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01:55 - 01:57 Hala Taha

What have you learned about happiness over the years?

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01:58 - 02:13 Mark Manson

Happiness is overrated. The more you think about and worry about happiness, the more you remove it from yourself. People get causation backwards. So the assumption is like, well, if I just find what I love, then I'll get really good at that thing. It's actually the other way around. People tend to fall in love with the thing they're really good at.

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02:13 - 02:16 Hala Taha

What is your advice for all the single people out there?

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00:00 - 00:00 Mark Manson

The only real dating advice is self-improvement. Marriage is supposed to limit your freedom, right? But I found that it was completely liberating because that's the magic sign. That's the sign of like, this has legs. This is going to last for a long time.

00:00 - 00:00 Hala Taha

Young Improfiters, what is the key to a fulfilling life lies not in chasing happiness, but embracing discomfort. Today, I'm sitting down with Mark Manson. He's the best-selling author of The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck and the host of the podcast of the same name. Mark was on the show on episode number 65. This was during the early days of the pandemic.

00:00 - 00:00 Hala Taha

And in that conversation, we talked about adulting and his book, Everything is Fucked. Today, I'm so excited to have him back on the pod because we're not in lockdown and we get a chance to explore some of his transformative rules for living.

00:00 - 00:00 Hala Taha

In this episode, Mark is gonna share his always refreshingly blunt insights and give us some actionable strategies that challenge conventional wisdom and will help you redefine your past to a more meaningful life. Mark, welcome back to Young and Profiting. Mark, welcome to Young and Profiting podcast.

00:00 - 00:00 Mark Manson

It's great to be here. Thanks for having me.

Chapter 2: What is the story behind Mark Manson's first bestselling book?

Chapter 3: Why does Mark Manson believe happiness is overrated?

01:55 - 01:57 Hala Taha

What have you learned about happiness over the years?

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01:58 - 02:13 Mark Manson

Happiness is overrated. The more you think about and worry about happiness, the more you remove it from yourself. People get causation backwards. So the assumption is like, well, if I just find what I love, then I'll get really good at that thing. It's actually the other way around. People tend to fall in love with the thing they're really good at.

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Chapter 4: How did rapid success impact Mark Manson's career?

02:13 - 02:16 Hala Taha

What is your advice for all the single people out there?

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02:16 - 02:30 Mark Manson

The only real dating advice is self-improvement. Marriage is supposed to limit your freedom, right? But I found that it was completely liberating because that's the magic sign. That's the sign of like, this has legs. This is going to last for a long time.

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02:46 - 03:07 Hala Taha

Young Improfiters, what is the key to a fulfilling life lies not in chasing happiness, but embracing discomfort. Today, I'm sitting down with Mark Manson. He's the best-selling author of The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck and the host of the podcast of the same name. Mark was on the show on episode number 65. This was during the early days of the pandemic.

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03:07 - 03:19 Hala Taha

And in that conversation, we talked about adulting and his book, Everything is Fucked. Today, I'm so excited to have him back on the pod because we're not in lockdown and we get a chance to explore some of his transformative rules for living.

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00:00 - 00:00 Hala Taha

In this episode, Mark is gonna share his always refreshingly blunt insights and give us some actionable strategies that challenge conventional wisdom and will help you redefine your past to a more meaningful life. Mark, welcome back to Young and Profiting. Mark, welcome to Young and Profiting podcast.

00:00 - 00:00 Mark Manson

It's great to be here. Thanks for having me.

00:00 - 00:00 Hala Taha

So you last came back on the show in 2020, and we were actually in the thick of the pandemic. We talked about your views on adulting, your book, Everything is F'd. And today, I'd love to just get your advice on a whole slew of topics. So let's get right into it. You turned 40 last year.

00:00 - 00:00 Hala Taha

And something that I love that you do is that every decade, you share your life lessons over what you've learned in the past decade. 10 years. So you did an article about surviving your 20s, excelling in your 30s, and now you just did a blog about 40 lessons that you learned about now that you're 40.

00:00 - 00:00 Hala Taha

So now that it's the new year, I thought it'd be the perfect time to unpack some of these life lessons. So first of all, why do you do this every 10 years? Why is that so meaningful for you?

Chapter 5: What is Mark Manson's perspective on purpose and meaning?

04:43 - 04:55 Mark Manson

I don't think there's anything necessarily special about them, but I don't know, it's switching over to a new decade, so it makes sense to take a little bit of extra time, take stock of your life, and consider what's changed.

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04:55 - 05:12 Hala Taha

So I learned that you believe that you hit all your career goals, or at least the ones that you had, by age 32. So that means you must have been doing something right in your 20s, and you say that your 20s were especially dramatic. So why were your 20s so dramatic? What were your 20s like for you?

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05:13 - 05:18 Hala Taha

And what were some of the things that you did to ensure that you would hit all these career goals by your early 30s?

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05:19 - 05:43 Mark Manson

My 20s, I very much optimized for novelty, experimentation, and self-discovery, which I think are good things for young people in general to optimize for. I probably went a little bit too hard on all that stuff. So I spent most of my 20s living as a nomad. I spent most of those years living abroad. I was never nailed down in a specific city, country, relationship.

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Chapter 6: How did Mark Manson redefine his career and personal goals?

05:44 - 06:08 Mark Manson

So I was traveling around the world, partying a lot. And that had both benefits and drawbacks. The benefits was that it exposed me to a very wide variety of experiences and people at a very young age. So I think I probably got ahead of the curve in terms of understanding myself and understanding people and understanding culture. And I think that will play into some of the success of the books.

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06:08 - 06:29 Mark Manson

It got me a little bit behind the curve in terms of I was out drinking and partying and a lot. And I wasted a lot of time on some silly and stupid things and probably didn't work as hard as I could have or should have at certain points. So it's one of these weird things. It's impossible to know if that trade-off was worth it.

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06:29 - 06:41 Mark Manson

But as a 40-year-old now, I think back, I look back at my 25, 26-year-old self and I'm like, bring it down a notch, right? Do you really need to go out on a Wednesday night? Like, there's probably better things you could have done.

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06:42 - 07:05 Mark Manson

But ultimately, I think because of the nature of the industry that I'm in, which essentially is observing and commenting on human nature, noticing psychological concepts, cultural trends, being able to appeal and address a wide international audience, I do think that lifestyle ended up kind of inadvertently helping me quite a bit in my career for those reasons.

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00:00 - 00:00 Mark Manson

I did technically meet all my career goals at 32. Part of that is that I think the success of my book, The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck, just vastly outstripped any expectation I ever had. And part of that too is that I was probably thinking too small at the time. And I guess we could get into each of those things individually if you want. But that's my 20s in a nutshell, I think.

Chapter 7: What insights does Mark Manson share about passion and skill?

07:30 - 07:36 Hala Taha

Why don't you take us to the story of writing your first book? What expectations did you have and how did it surprise you?

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07:37 - 08:06 Mark Manson

It was a very different time back then. So just to give a little background, I started blogging in 2007. By 2009, I'd eked out a very small full-time income. And by 2012 or 13, I'd grown a pretty significant audience online. So by the time my stuff really started to take off, I was five or six years in. I'd been scraping by. I'd been living in a lot of countries that were very cheap to live in.

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08:07 - 08:19 Mark Manson

And suddenly I find myself, I have a bunch of articles going viral on Facebook and Twitter at the time. And I find myself with millions of readers. And back then, what's known today as the creator economy didn't really exist back then.

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08:19 - 08:31 Mark Manson

So back then, the roadmap was just build an audience online and then that can get your foot in the door to go make a TV show or get a book published or make an album, right?

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00:00 - 00:00 Hala Taha

And how old were you at this point?

00:00 - 00:00 Mark Manson

I was 27.

00:00 - 00:00 Hala Taha

So young, I didn't realize that.

00:00 - 00:00 Mark Manson

So when the agents and editors started coming knocking, right? And they're like, hey, some of these articles are great. We think we could get you a book deal. What do you think about that? It was very exciting. And as somebody who never studied writing or journalism in school,

00:00 - 00:00 Mark Manson

who had never held down a real job in his life, who didn't even do well in English class as a student, the idea of me publishing a book was just so, oh my God, I can't believe this is happening. So when I entered into that world, I set what I thought at the time were pretty ambitious goals, which was I want to be a New York Times bestseller at some point in my life.

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