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Darius Mirshahzadeh: How Core Values Unlock Massive Business Growth | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
Fri, 04 Apr 2025
How do you make the best decisions, maintain company culture as your business grows, and attract and retain incredible talent? Serial entrepreneur, business founder, and bestselling author Darius Mirshahzadeh believes the answer lies in core values. By properly leveraging and implementing core values within your company, your teams will speak the same language, make better decisions, build a thriving culture, and scale to incredible success. In this episode, Hala and Darius discuss his unique journey into entrepreneurship, how to build a core value-driven organization, Darius’s six core values, the difference between good and bad core values, and the Scale M.A.P. Method for business growth. In this episode, Hala and Darius will discuss: (00:00) Introduction (01:12) Meet Darius: Entrepreneurial Beginnings (02:48) Lessons from a Hardworking Father (04:49) A Life-Changing Loss (08:01) Interning at the White House (17:48) The Birth of Twin Capital Brokerage (21:39) Struggles and Resilience in Business (25:01) Building The Money Source (29:41) Stepping Down as CEO (35:09) Travel Plans Disrupted by COVID-19 (35:50) The Accidental Personal Brand (36:05) Introduction to Core Values (38:16) The Importance of Core Values in Business (41:52) Personal Core Values (45:30) Creating a Core Value Driven Organization (50:11) Developing Core Values for Startups (52:12 The Scale Map Method (01:01:09 Bootcamp and Mastermind Programs Darius Mirshahzadeh is a high-growth CEO, serial entrepreneur, and culture-building mad scientist who was ranked #9 on Glassdoor’s list of Top CEOs of Small and Medium Companies in the US. He is the author of the bestselling book, The Core Value Equation, and the host of The Greatness Machine podcast. Darius has led organizations that have won numerous Stevie awards, been named “#3 Best Place to Work” by the San Francisco Business Times, and have landed at #40 on the Inc. 500 list of fastest-growing companies. Sponsored By: Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at youngandprofiting.co/shopify OpenPhone: Streamline and scale your customer communications with OpenPhone. Get 20% off your first 6 months at openphone.com/profiting Airbnb - Find yourself a co-host at airbnb.com/host Indeed - Get a $75 sponsored job credit at indeed.com/profiting RobinHood - Receive your 3% boost on annual IRA contributions, sign up at robinhood.com/gold Factor - Get 50% off your first box plus free shipping at factormeals.com/factorpodcast Rakuten - Save while shopping at rakuten.com Microsoft Teams - Stop paying for tools. Get everything you need, for free, at aka.ms/profiting LinkedIn Marketing Solutions - Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at linkedin.com/profiting Active Deals - youngandprofiting.com/deals Key YAP Links Reviews - ratethispodcast.com/yap Youtube - youtube.com/c/YoungandProfiting LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/htaha/ Instagram - instagram.com/yapwithhala/ Social + Podcast Services - yapmedia.com Transcripts - youngandprofiting.com/episodes-new Entrepreneurship, entrepreneurship podcast, Business, Business podcast, Entrepreneurs, side hustle, Startup, Starting a business, Passive income, Online business, Solopreneur, Founder, Networking, Entrepreneurship, entrepreneurship podcast, Business, Business podcast, Self Improvement, Self-Improvement, Personal development, Starting a business, Strategy, Investing, Sales, Selling, Psychology, Productivity, Entrepreneurs, AI, Artificial Intelligence, Technology, Marketing, Negotiation, Money, Finance, Side hustle, Startup, mental health, Career, Leadership, Mindset, Health, Growth mindset.
Chapter 1: Who is Darius Mirshahzadeh and how did he begin his entrepreneurial journey?
Hey, Hella.
Super hyped to be here. You're my good friend. Always happy to have my friends on the show. You are a serious serial entrepreneur. You have so much to say about the peaks and pitfalls of entrepreneurship. And I can't wait to get your core value insights and more information about your scale map methodology. So
Chapter 2: What lessons did Darius learn from his father's entrepreneurial experiences?
From my research, I found out that you've had an entrepreneurial spirit from the very beginning. Your dad was an immigrant from Iran, literally the epitome of the American dream. He was an entrepreneur. He had many gas stations, real estate businesses. Did you always know you were going to follow in his footsteps and become an entrepreneur?
You know, like half of me wanted to do that. And the other half of me wanted to like become an actor and a comedian on Saturday Night Live. Like if you had asked me when I was 18, I was like, actually, I wanted to be Howard Stern. So like, which is not ironic that now I love podcasting. But yeah, no, I was like business and like enjoying experiences with people were like my two things. So yeah.
Yeah, I know. I always felt like an affinity towards I love making money and I love selling. I was always like the kid that would win the candy selling competitions. I mean, crush those competitions. So for me, like starting a business or was not like this far out idea that was kind of a natural next step for sure.
Yeah. And I think that's a lot different from a lot of the immigrants that grew up in America. A lot of their parents, you know, had regular jobs or were doctors or engineers or and kind of were told to follow in that traditional path. And so your father, he taught you that you don't make the money selling the gas, you make the money selling the gas station.
So talk to us about some of the entrepreneurial lessons that your father taught you.
So my dad was old school, born in 1939 in Esfahan, Iran. His father was a business person, was a really successful business person. He was kind of like ADD business guy. I mean, some of it was a victim of circumstances. There was a revolution in Iran. He moved here. He had to support his family. Didn't have a great speaking of the language, although he did get his MBA in the United States.
He came here late in life. So for him, that's how he had to support his family. And again, he grew up around entrepreneurs. So for him to start gas stations and do real estate and stuff like that was not unusual. My mom was a social worker, which is the other end of the spectrum, who worked for the county.
Smart lady, social worker, father that's getting up and building his own businesses every day. When you see that, you're like, oh, that's an option. Like going to college. I mean, both my parents had their master's degree. So going to college was not that was definitely an expectation as well. But I remember my dad would always say, like, I'm building these for you guys.
And now I had to go to work in the gas station at a young age, too. He was like, hey, you're 10. Great. You're going to work. So my summer vacations and I grew up in upper middle class, Southern California. So all my friends were like going to summer camp and, you know, having fun and going to like the water parks and the magic mountain and six flags and stuff like that.
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Chapter 3: How did Darius's internship at the White House influence his career path?
And we didn't even tell him he had it because he had such bad dementia at that point. And he passed away in August of that same year. So yeah, it was hard. And there was mixed emotions. I had a pretty complicated relationship with my dad because of how I was describing our background together. And some people would say, my dad was my best friend. And I was like, yeah, not me and my dad.
I respected him. He was a hard guy and he was hardcore. And so to lose your dad at that young of an age is hard for anybody. But it just gave me an insight into life's short. And I had lost my grandmother when I was 14. She was 62. My dad was 60 when he passed away. My mom was 48 when my dad passed away. She got diagnosed with cancer right after that.
So by the time I was 22, I had lost my grandmother, my dad, and my mom was a survivor of cancer. And so I had set a really different perspective, which was, I don't want to live a life that I just go work my ass off, and then 20 years, 30, 40 years from now, I'm done. And it was, hey, how can I live a much more engaged life? And I didn't really understand that then.
It wasn't until much later that I realized that that's why I kind of got into some of the things that we're going to talk about around
values and purpose and how do you be live and engage life but for me that was a lesson taught at a young age which is hey life's short and you need to go and like make it happen and really make the most of your time because you're gonna blink and it's gonna be over with
Yeah, and we'll definitely get more into your purpose and all of your core values and things later on to learn more about your philosophy on life, basically. Your later years in college, you ended up working at the White House. You worked as an intern for the Bill Clinton administration. And so you've got some amazing stories with this internship.
It was right up your alley considering you were involved in student government. It should have been your dream job, I think. I could have imagined you taking that path all the way, but it turns out it taught you that you weren't cut out for typical employment and it solidified for you that you would never again have a regular job. So I'd love to hear more about that experience.
Yeah, so when I was in college, I had to work a lot. So again, my dad being kind of a hard ass was like, yeah, I'm not paying for your college, you got to pay for your own college. And so I was always working. And I was always, again, ambitious. So I always had internships. And I had a really good friend from student government in high school. Her name is Prita Shah.
And she ended up her sophomore year working for the Clinton administration. And I'm kind of like you, I'm like a networker. So I'm like, hey, I want to work at the White House. I literally like there was a conversation she and I had. And she said, well, all right, let's do it. And so she had a friend that came into town in LA. We were on the Sunset Strip.
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Chapter 4: What challenges did Darius face with Twin Capital Brokerage?
And I ended up spending the whole summer putting on throwing parties for interns and social events and organizing them. And it was, it made a really boring job, a really fun job. The part that answer your question though, is, is I realized I was doing this admin work. This is my third internship that I had. And I called my mom up and I go, mom, I had a realization. She said, what's that?
I said, I am never going to have a job as long as I live. And I said, the only way I will ever have a job where I'm not the boss, and let's use the White House, for example, is if I was president of the United States. So it was this epiphany that like, I have to be the boss.
And literally in this job in the White House, I said, I would never work for the White House again, unless I was president of the United States. Now I'm 22. Maybe I'd take an advisor role now if they wanted me. But yeah, it was a really eye-opening experience to be at this top-of-the-game, best internship that you could have in the whole world and to say, I don't want to do this.
I want to work for myself. But yeah, it was a cool experience.
But there was something else that kind of triggered you to want to work for yourself. It was something that you did. You almost got fired, Darius. So don't skip out on that part of the story. Yeah.
All right, look, while this is going on, my dad's sick at home. It was a complicated situation. I had chosen to do this. My dad's sick at home. My family was not stoked that I was at this thing. By the way, they don't pay. Maybe they change now. Back then, they don't pay you. So I'm using my money I'd saved to go to Europe for graduating college. I'm using that to go live in D.C.
and work for free for the White House. So I was already a little pissed off about that. And the one thing you get when you work at the White House as an intern is you get a picture with the President of the United States in front of the White House on the steps of the South Lawn. So it's like a picture that commemorates that you worked at the White House.
And it's got to be in front of the White House. Well, they had some sort of staff picnic. And they're like, yeah, you're not doing the picture in front of the White House. What most people don't know is next to the White House is a building called the Old Executive Office Building, which is actually where almost everyone that works for the White House works inside of this office building.
So we're going to do the picture in front of the steps of the OEOB, the old executive office building. I was like, fuck that. So I was pissed. And I pulled a straight Jerry Maguire. I wrote this really long email that said, this is unfair. The White House is lucky to have us. We're not lucky to have them. I demand that we either cancel the picture or they reschedule us in front of the White House.
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Chapter 5: How did Darius overcome failures to build The Money Source?
Wow.
So three quarters of the industry went away. I always said it would be kind of like, most people don't know this, but I said it would be like if I said, hey, Uber, Twitter, Meta, Google, they all go out of business. That's what happened to that industry all at once. So it was brutal. I pivoted. I pivoted for almost five years.
I literally showed up to work for five years straight, 07, 08, 09, 010, 011, and literally did not get a paycheck. I just cut checks and went to work. Now, I'd made a lot of money in the previous year. So we used that to survive. But most of it, we spent a lot of it and just trying to rebuild. And it just took a long time. And I was young. Mind you, I started the business in 03 when I was 25.
So by 07, I was 27, 28. So this all happened before I was 30 years old. And then I spent my late 20s, early 30s rebuilding, figuring out what was next. And I have a friend... Ryan Levesque, who owns a company called The Ass Method, he called me Tenacious D. He said, you just don't have any quitting you.
And I was like, man, I wish I did because that it was probably the most painful five years I've ever lived in business. And I wouldn't do it over again. If I had to do it, I wouldn't.
You're saying that you wish that you shut down that company earlier that you just were beating a dead horse basically for five years?
So Naval Ramakant says, you need to pick the right space to be in. And that space was a dead space and it was broken and I just couldn't win in it. But I just didn't have any quit. So I just kept fighting for it. I was standing on a broken foundation.
So knowing what I know now, it was, there was a lot of time and anguish spent and there was opportunities all around me that I was, I was living in San Francisco. So what was happening in 09, 10, and 11 in San Francisco? Airbnb, Uber. You go down the list of all these amazing companies that were born then, and I'm over here getting my teeth kicked in in this space that's just demolished.
And so was it the right thing to do? I don't know. Hindsight's always 20-20. But yeah, the pain sucked. Like it just wasn't worth it. I had some amazing things happen to me during that time. I had my first child and I got married and I did live in a great city. But professionally, I struggled so badly for so long that it just it wasn't fun. And I think that there's an element of grit to win.
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Chapter 6: What role do core values play in business success according to Darius?
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