Adrien Brody does a lot of research for his roles, but his performance in the new movie The Brutalist was shaped largely by his family’s immigrant experience and it aligned with his desire to play characters who are outsiders. Adrien also talks with Marc about becoming the youngest winner of the Best Actor Oscar for The Pianist and how it was a little too much to take. But on the flip side, he explains why he revels in the joy and camaraderie of making Wes Anderson’s films. Sign up here for WTF+ to get the full show archives and weekly bonus material! https://plus.acast.com/s/wtf-with-marc-maron-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Chapter 1: What does Adrien Brody say about his immigrant experience?
I saw that, yeah.
It was a long time ago and I booked it. And so I worked with... So, that was your first gig? That was, I think, my first gig. I thought I'd turn this off. It's on silence. Got a problem with my phone. I have no idea who that is, but they keep calling. It's an unknown, but... But it's not spam? I don't know who it is, but I've seen that number enough that I don't pick it up.
I don't know who it is.
Ich bekomme die nicht, außer wenn sie lokal sind, weil dann weiß ich, was neben mir passiert. Aber wenn es ein Privatnummer ist, dann ist es so.
Ja, ich habe einen Reggae-Song, den ich mag, und der Typ sagt, Gangster, keine Antwort, kein unbekanntes Nummer. Und ich bin immer so, jedes Mal, wenn ich es sehe, bin ich so, ja, du wirst es nie wissen. Du wirst es nie wissen. Also du arbeitest mit Coppola, du warst zwölf? Ja, ja, das war großartig. Erinnerst du dich an ihn? Oh, ich erinnere mich an ihn, ja, ich erinnere mich an ihn.
Und, du weißt, ich bin... Ich bin freundlich mit Roman Coppola, seinem Sohn. Und auch mit seinem Bruder. Und mit seinem Bruder. Und ich bin freundlich mit Nick Cage. Aber ich liebte das. Es war bemerkenswert. Er hat mir einen Kaffee-Kolonnen-Bottel über mir gepresst, weil die Mädchen in der Szene zu meinem Charakter reagierten, die in diese Party-Szene kamen.
I joke because it was like he forced me to do some method acting. So the girls weren't having to act. They could just literally smell me waft across. So they didn't know it was coming? They knew it, but he had the understanding that that can only help. And he didn't give a shit if it humiliated me as a 12-year-old boy walking with a bunch of girls smelling like a bottle of perfume broke on me.
Findest du, dass der Effekt der Direktoren, mit denen du gearbeitet hast, die Art und Weise, wie du Dinge anschaust, verändert hat? Oh, absolut.
Mein ganzes Verständnis von Film und Aktivität. Hopefully, if I ever direct, I have so much, so much that I've learned from Masters. Yeah, I mean, what, you got Polanski, Malick, Spike. Barry Levinson, Ken Loach. Oh, yeah. Yeah, many, many, many really amazing filmmakers. What was it like to be on that Malick movie? That was crazy. Yeah, it was crazy. It was... It was... I learned a lot.
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Chapter 2: How did winning an Oscar at a young age affect Adrien Brody?
Es war wirklich sehr erstaunlich, ja. Aber es ist alles so, wie, aber über die, weil, du weißt, ich muss versuchen, wie, war es ein Punkt, weil ich fühle, als ob ich dich nicht sehe, wie, ich, dieses Film ist das erste Mal, das ich es gesehen habe, seit Succession. Aber bevor das, ich meine, wie, war es ein Punkt, wo du genug davon hattest? Oh, yeah, definitely.
A lot of people have, I mean, we can all relate. If we're going to be honest, sure. I also have been doing this my entire life. I have my own expectations and criteria. What are they? Well, you have to give everything you can give to any role, I think, as an actor. I mean, you, you know... Du musst bereit sein, all das, was du hast, zu geben. Es war wundervoll, dieses Spiel zu spielen.
Und bevor wir losgingen, waren es wundervolle Akteure, die ganze Gruppe von Leuten. Meine Kollegen, die auf dem Spiel waren, waren wirklich wundervolle, wundervolle Leute und sehr talentiert. Und Michael Fox, einer der Akteure, würde immer sagen, lasst es alles auf der Bühne. Und
I do that in every movie I do and in some movies it's less apparent or less, it's not held up in the same way that Brady does. die Möglichkeit für mich dargestellt hat. Und die Größe des Charakters und der Menschlichkeit ist offensichtlich. Wir chronizieren 30 Jahre seines Lebens. Und ich habe viel zu bieten. Und es ist zu bieten. Es ist nicht nur für mich, um...
I don't choose work for any other reason than I think I have something to give. And I have something on that journey would be very enlightening in some respect or has some social relevance or has, you know... It could be just comedic and fun and whatever, but I have something to give. I won't take it just because, hey, that's a great job. I'm very fortunate and I'm fortunate.
I've been working long enough that I don't have to do that, but I... Anyhow, so I had not found something like this in just so long. What, since like the pianist? I would say on this level, yes. Yeah, for sure. And that's not a lack of interest on my part. Sure. And it's not a lack of interest on other people's parts. It's just the nature of things. And even this movie. Hat several iterations.
It was possibly going to be with another cast. It took Brady seven years from its inception. I read this five and a half years ago. It's just not easy to get there. And then when you get there, it is very...
Yeah, and it's not like these movies are made that often.
Right. Right? No, they're not. And that's part of Brady's struggle and part of the storytelling of the film about the quest of an artist and this relationship. But you do choose to do, like, you like to work with Wes. Oh, well, Wes is, first of all, he's a genius and he's... Sehr lustig zu arbeiten. Und ja, diese Sets sind fantastisch.
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Chapter 3: What insights does Adrien Brody share about The Brutalist?
Es war wahnsinnig anders. Aber es hat mir große Freude und Perspektive gegeben und ich habe viele tolle Möglichkeiten und Rollen bekommen. Ich habe so viele tolle kreative Leute kennengelernt, die ich niemals hätte kennenlernen können. Ich bin sehr dankbar, oh mein Gott.
Siehst du dich als Charakter-Aktor?
I don't know what that means. You know what that means? I feel like there's a... I'm an actor. And my responsibility is to bring a unique sensibility to all the roles that I play. And I feel that to call someone a character actor somehow diminishes their... Ihr Wert oder Potenzial als Filmstar, als Protagonist, weil der Charakteraktor nicht der Protagonist ist.
Und ich denke, der Protagonist sollte sehr viel ein Charakter sein und definitiv so interessant und so viel ein Charakter als der Nemesis. Ich habe immer gesagt, ich fühle mich, als hätte ich...
They hold equal spaces for me.
Well, that's good. Sure, but you don't get hired, you know. So tell me a name of some people or an actor or two that you think are great character actors, like what comes to mind.
Ned Beatty.
Okay, wonderful.
Harry Dean. Yeah, okay. Like I can picture many in my head. Is Gary Oldman a character actor? Now? Es wird ein bisschen anders. Es ist eine interessante Sache, weil manche Leute interessierter werden, als sie älter werden. Weil die Rollen anders sind. Ich habe De Niro in dem Film Ezra ein bisschen gespielt. Und De Niro in einem Supporting Role ist das beste fucking Ding im Welt.
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Chapter 4: How does Adrien Brody prepare for his roles?
Is it a
In your career? I mean, is it something that... It's a part of the journey. Look, there's in excess of 100,000 talented people in the union alone that are desperate to have opportunity. That's a big number. Yeah, yeah. And there's a lot of hardship, a lot of sacrifice. So for me to sit here and talk about my frustrations isn't important or relevant. I've been kicking around a long time.
I've paid a lot of dues. And I don't really have to prove much to myself. And I'm so grateful that I've earned that. And so whether others see me clearly or not, isn't as frustrating as it used to be. But it was a source of frustration, because look how long it's taken even to get this role. And this role is remarkable. But, you know, it's not like... It's not like... Genau. Genau. Genau. Genau.
It quenches the thirst.
Ja.
Ja.
Ja.
Ja.
Ja.
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Chapter 5: What is the significance of outsider characters in Adrien Brody's work?
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A year ago this week we had our 1500th episode of WTF and I had one of the best conversations of the year with Paul Giamatti. The thing about those books is like, oh, look at these books. Oh. And I'll underline, dude. Oh. I'll underline.
Sure.
But I retain nothing.
Nothing. And it's almost like just having the thing itself. I'm somehow going to absorb something from it. Well, that's what I realized, is that when you're reading it, it feels like you're thinking it.
Yes, that's true. And then... And then it's over.
But you're not. No, totally. Then it's gone. It's gone. It's gone. And I have that. I have a ton of science books. Oh. Physics and all of the quantum. But I understand. And I try. And talk about a bookmark at about 10 pages in. And I'm done. You try with physics. Oh, I try with all kinds of science. I remember when I was younger, when chaos theory was. Yes, exactly. Exactly.
Genau, all that kind of shit. I gotta get that. Love it. Oh, this is fascinating. And I get the gist of it and that's sort of good enough. I have the gist of a lot of things.
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