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Verdict with Ted Cruz

Ukraine MELTDOWN plus Trump's first State of the Union Address of the 2nd Term

Mon, 03 Mar 2025

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1. Ukraine-Russia Conflict:   - The discussion includes analysis of the ongoing war between Ukraine and Russia.   - The hosts criticize Zelensky's handling of the situation and his interactions with international leaders. 2. European Leaders' Response:   - The podcast covers the response of European leaders to the Ukraine crisis, including a proposed peace plan and financial support.  3. State of the Union Address:   - The episode previews the upcoming State of the Union address by President Trump.   - The hosts speculate on the themes and topics Trump will cover, including immigration, border security, and the administration's achievements. 4. Legislation on Non-Consensual Intimate Images:   - Ted Cruz talks about his legislation aimed at combating non-consensual intimate images and deepfakes.   - The bill seeks to make it a crime to post such images and requires social media platforms to remove them when notified by victims. Please Hit Subscribe to this podcast Right Now. Also Please Subscribe to the 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson and the Ben Ferguson Show Podcast Wherever You get You're PodcastsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@VerdictwithTedCruzSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: What were the consequences of the Zelensky-Trump meeting?

40.973 - 61.932 Senator Ted Cruz

Well, the fallout continues from the epic meeting last week between President Zelensky and Donald Trump. The consequences have been massive. As you mentioned, we did an emergency podcast Friday afternoon within hours of the meeting. We put it out. Normally, we put out pods Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. We put out two pods on Friday, one Friday morning and one Friday afternoon.

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62.332 - 83.753 Senator Ted Cruz

We did it because we wanted to cover what was happening then because it was that consequential. So I will say... As Ben just mentioned a minute ago, if you didn't listen to Friday afternoon's pod, I'd encourage you to go back and listen to it. I believe this will go down in history as the most disastrous Oval Office meeting that has ever occurred. We're going to break that down.

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Chapter 2: What themes will Trump cover in his State of the Union address?

83.773 - 101.771 Senator Ted Cruz

We're going to break down the fallout that has happened in three days since that meeting. We're also going to talk about the fact that tomorrow is the first State of the Union address for the second Donald Trump term. We're going to talk about what President Trump is likely going to say tomorrow and how it's going to be received. All on today's pod.

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102.031 - 119.024 Ben Ferguson

Yeah, you've got to love the Oscars. Every year it gets more and more woke. And every time when you think they're done, nope, they'll double down on it. Want to talk to you real quick about an incredible organization called the IFCJ and the work that they're doing for the people in Israel.

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119.204 - 140.873 Ben Ferguson

If you want to help, then listen to me for the next minute, because after more than a year of war, terror and pain in Israel, all of Israel is broken hearted. after learning of the tragic deaths of the Beavis children who were held hostage in Gaza. And so many are still hurting throughout the Holy Land where the need for aid continues to actually grow.

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141.513 - 164.304 Ben Ferguson

The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has supported and continues to support the families of hostages and other victims of the October 7th terror attacks. And with your help, IFCJ has provided financial and emotional help to hostages and their families and to those healing and rebuilding their broken homes and broken bodies. But the real work is just beginning.

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164.725 - 190.968 Ben Ferguson

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Chapter 3: How are European leaders responding to the Ukraine crisis?

195.572 - 225.674 Ben Ferguson

488-IFCJ, 888-488-IFCJ, or all online at supportifcj.org. All right, so let's give a quick recap of what you mentioned a second ago, but you think this is going to go down in history, this meeting at the Oval Office is maybe the worst Oval Office meeting in history. It seems that Zelensky may be agreeing with you at this point by the amount of backtracking he's done. He's done some interviews.

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225.714 - 244.43 Ben Ferguson

He's saying we can get this done with America. He ran to Europe begging for aid, support, help, money. And now there's basically the UK and France are like, you screwed up big. We're going to try to help you put this deal back together and we'll be the liaison with the United States of America since you screwed it up so badly.

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Chapter 4: Why was Zelensky's Oval Office meeting with Trump so controversial?

245.069 - 270.526 Senator Ted Cruz

Well, Zelensky's Oval Office performance was disastrous. And listen, at some level, it's not complicated what he had to do. He was there to come to President Trump and seek his help. Seek his help, seek the United States to stand with him in some way, shape, and form in their war with Russia. And Zelensky is beleaguered. He is a wartime leader. He feels desperate.

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271.306 - 299.274 Senator Ted Cruz

But to be clear, the United States is also his principal patron, his funder, the person who has paid for the war for years, has sent hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine. And so in any sane and rational world, Zelensky would come into the Oval Office, hat in hand, would come into the Oval Office angry. Being grateful for the support that the United States has given.

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300.175 - 324.111 Senator Ted Cruz

And to be honest, kissing Trump's ass. I mean, this is not a complicated dynamic. And by the way, it's also not a new dynamic. I've been in a lot of Oval Office meetings. Just about every foreign leader comes in and treats the President of the United States with respect. That is incumbent on the office.

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324.791 - 344.857 Senator Ted Cruz

The United States is the world's leading superpower, and so foreign leaders, foreign heads of state, whether they like the President or not, they treat the President with respect. I will tell you, Any president, if there were a foreign leader who treated them the way Zelensky treated Trump, would have been pissed off and the consequences would have been bad.

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345.457 - 370.82 Senator Ted Cruz

With Trump, the consequences were spectacularly bad. And listen, one needn't be a forensic psychologist to understand that it is a really dumb idea. to go into a meeting with Donald Trump and insult him and condescend him and attack him. If you do that, Ben, I can actually give out the probabilities to amazing precision.

371.641 - 376.606 Senator Ted Cruz

If you attack and insult Donald Trump, the chances that he will punch back are 100.000%.

379.6 - 383.281 Ben Ferguson

Especially in every instance. I mean, yeah, exactly.

383.301 - 386.282 Senator Ted Cruz

I mean, behind closed doors on global TV.

386.742 - 403.786 Ben Ferguson

Yeah. Like and that's the part where it was like such shocking tone death. And you and I mentioned this in the pod on Friday. But the ambassador from the Ukraine, I think she summed up perfectly holding her head in her hands like this is a disaster that no one knows how to fix.

Chapter 5: What is the UK and Europe's role in the Ukraine peace plan?

445.376 - 465.355 Senator Ted Cruz

And it was I think he felt I think Zelensky went into the Oval performing for The New York Times and believing that the world be like, oh, Zelensky stands up and puts Trump in his place. Ha ha ha. And it was truly absurd. It backfired completely.

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466.44 - 491.041 Senator Ted Cruz

And by the way, this is the same political idiocy that led Zelensky last fall to go and effectively do a campaign event with Kamala Harris in Pennsylvania and to come to the United States in the middle of the presidential campaign, to come to the United States and do a New York Times interview attacking Donald Trump a month out from the election. And you and I did a whole pot at the time.

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491.821 - 510.625 Senator Ted Cruz

What the hell is wrong with this guy? Is he just an idiot? Look, I don't know who's going to win the race. Both you and I thought Trump was going to win, but nobody knew for sure. At a minimum, Zelensky knew there was some real possibility that Trump was going to be the president. Did he think it made sense? Like what foreign leader comes?

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511.045 - 522.111 Senator Ted Cruz

By the way, I wouldn't have advocated Zelensky should come campaign for Trump either. He's the president of Ukraine. He ought to be focused on Ukraine and stay the hell out of our elections like like it was an idiotic idea.

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522.131 - 542.802 Ben Ferguson

There's no upside to this. And then whoever wins, that's who you work with. And that's how it is. So why would you risk it? But this goes back to one of two things. Is this because he is not a he's a fake politician in the sense where he's an actor that, you know, figure out a way to get this job and there's no elections happening there right now.

543.282 - 565.012 Ben Ferguson

And he feels like he believes the international press, which, by the way, did turn him into a rock star. I mean, he became the Taylor Swift of of dudes and in politics and was successful. piped into the award shows like we had on Sunday night. I mean, this is a guy that I think started maybe believing the press that he's untouchable, he's amazing, he's this incredible leader.

565.613 - 578.678 Senator Ted Cruz

Look, he thinks he's George Washington, he thinks he's Winston Churchill, he thinks he is larger than life, and everyone around him, and particularly Donald Trump, are just beneath him. And that arrogance and condescension

579.398 - 604.745 Senator Ted Cruz

came out and and it really is i i think it's it's the danger of believing your own pr like believing your own bs listen i've met zielinski multiple times um you know people ask me all right is is the guy totally and utterly corrupt and look i want to urge our verdict listeners there is a danger in in talking about ukraine and foreign policy to fall into extremes

606.108 - 633.761 Senator Ted Cruz

And to say either, Zelensky is a glorious hero defending liberty and everyone with morality will stand against him, against the worst scourge humanity has ever seen, Vladimir Putin. That's one view. I don't think that view is right. There is another view, which if you spend your time on Twitter, you could see as the sort of countervailing view. which is Zelensky is a corrupt, evil autocrat.

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