Verdict with Ted Cruz
Attorney General Pam Bondi-Exclusive One-on-One LIVE Interview at CPAC
Fri, 21 Feb 2025
This podcast is an exclusive one-on-one live interview with Attorney General #PamBondi at #CPAC 2025. The interview is conducted by #TedCruz and covers a range of topics related to Bondi's role and actions as Attorney General. Here are the key points discussed: 1. Introduction and Context - Bondi has been the Attorney General for 15 days and discusses her immediate actions and priorities. 2. Restoring Integrity to the #DOJ - Bondi emphasizes her mission to restore integrity to the Department of Justice (DOJ) and end its politicization. - She mentions issuing 14 executive orders on her first day, with the primary focus on ending the #weaponization of the DOJ. 3. Support from DOJ Employees - Bondi notes that many DOJ employees have expressed relief and gratitude for the changes she is implementing. 4. #LawEnforcement and #Crime - The interview highlights Bondi's efforts to refocus law enforcement agencies on fighting violent crime. - She discusses the importance of returning to core functions and stopping politicized actions like the raid on Mar-a-Lago. 5. #Immigration and #BorderSecurity - Bondi addresses the issue of illegal immigration and the actions taken to combat it. - She mentions the arrest of criminals involved in human smuggling and the designation of cartels as terrorist organizations. 6. #Fentanyl Crisis - The interview covers the fentanyl crisis and the administration's efforts to stop the flow of drugs into the country. - Bondi expresses anger at the previous administration's inaction on this issue. 7. #SanctuaryCities and Legal Actions - Bondi discusses lawsuits against sanctuary cities like New York and Chicago for not complying with federal immigration laws. - She emphasizes the danger these cities pose to law enforcement and public safety. 8. Challenges and Deep State - Bondi describes the challenges of dealing with the "deep state" and the resistance within the DOJ. - She mentions finding large portraits of Joe Biden, Merrick Garland, and Kamala Harris still hanging in her office. 9. Human Trafficking and Child Protection - The interview highlights efforts to combat human trafficking and protect children. - Bondi shares a disturbing story about a "rape tree" and the exploitation of children at the border. 10. Anti-Semitism on College Campuses - Bondi addresses the rise of anti-Semitism on college campuses and the DOJ's commitment to protecting students. - She mentions the creation of an October 7th task force to tackle this issue. 11. Pardons and Accountability - The interview touches on the issue of pardons given by Joe Biden and the lack of accountability for his actions. - Bondi asserts that no one is above the law and emphasizes the importance of prosecuting violent criminals. 12. Personal Reflections - Bondi shares her personal commitment to making America safe and her dedication to her role. - She describes the intense workload and the support from her team and President Trump.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@VerdictwithTedCruzSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chapter 1: What is the significance of Pam Bondi's role as Attorney General?
So these guys never invite me to be on their podcast. They finally did, and I get to do it in front of all of you. So this is awesome.
Well, Pam, I will tell you that there is some good karma to being on this podcast at CPAC with someone named J.D. Vance. He's done all right for himself.
He's a great man.
So, welcome.
Thank you.
You have been Attorney General 15 days.
It feels like 15 years.
I believe you. And by the way, you just got some help. An hour ago, the Senate just finished confirming.
Yes, isn't that great? Been on the phone with him nonstop.
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Chapter 2: How is Pam Bondi addressing the politicization of the DOJ?
I talked to him on the ride over here. He is going to do fantastic. He sure is. All right, let's start. 15 days. You've come into what I think is the single most important cabinet position in this administration. Because we went through four years of Biden weaponizing the Department of Justice, using it to attack his enemies and to support his friends.
So let me ask you, come into DOJ, you've got a mission. You've got a mission to restore integrity to the department, to end the weaponization and politicization. How do you do that? How do you get that done?
You know, the volume, Senator, what concerned me the most, it's the volume. of how bad it was. And it still is. We're working on it. It's day by day by day. But we've got a team of great people. And on day one, I issued 14 executive orders. And number one is the weaponization ends, and it ends now. And that's what we did.
Let me ask you something. In the 15 days you've been there, how many DOJ employees have said something to the effect of, thank God?
A lot of them.
I believe you. Look, I spent four years hearing from AUSAs, assistant U.S. attorneys, hearing from FBI agents, hearing from men and women who believe in the rule of law and were horrified. at the politicization of the FBI and the DOJ. And so I know for a lot of good, honorable men and women who've devoted their careers to defending the Constitution, there's a lot of gratitude
that they can get back to doing their job.
Their core function. And that's thanks to Donald J. Trump getting back in office. And he gave us a clear directive. Make America safe. And that's what we're going to do. You know, to start with, the law enforcement agencies talking about cash. These men and women didn't go to Quantico. They're not risking their lives to waste their time on all this politicization. And raiding Mar-a-Lago, really?
Stopping. All of that is stopping. And we are returning them to their core function, fighting violent crime. And that's what the great majority of men and women in law enforcement, DEA, ATF, U.S. Marshals, FBI, as well as the incredible legal team at the Justice Department, that's what they want to do.
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Chapter 3: What steps are being taken to combat illegal immigration?
That's why we do what we do every day. That's why these agents risk their lives every single day. It's human smuggling, and a lot of children, a lot of children, they're saying, are safer because of this.
Let me ask you a question. President Trump, and this has made headlines on what you were just talking about, we've designated these cartels as terrorist organizations. What does that allow you to do in your job? And Kash Patel now is the head of the FBI. What is that going to give you the ability to do and to go after them?
Well, Stephen Miller is doing a great job as we are, right? Leading this effort with all of us, Mike Waltz at DOD, we all work so well together, and it gives us the ability, they are a terrorist group, and it gives us the ability to go after them more ability anywhere in the world and treat them as terrorists. They are terrorists.
If you're bringing fentanyl into this country and killing our kids, you're a terrorist, and we're coming after you.
300 a day is the average that are dying in this country right now. When you took this job and you hear that number and you saw the inaction from the last administration, how angry did that make you?
So angry. You know, I was state AG before I became United States Attorney General. And fentanyl was really just coming on the market. And now with this horrible open border policy just flowing, flowing across our borders, and killing kids, killing adults every single day. And it's criminal that no one was doing anything to stop it.
I can't comprehend how any administration, progressive nor conservative, how any administration could tolerate that and let that happen. And it ended day one with Donald Trump when he shut that border. I was at the border back in September. I went with Laura Trump and Morgan Ortegas. And we were in Yuma, Arizona, and I saw firsthand there is nothing humanitarian that was happening at that border.
Nothing, nothing. They have a rape tree where they're raping women as they're coming into this country. I saw firsthand piles and piles of passports just thrown from every country you can imagine because the Biden administration was letting you walk right in the country. If you didn't have a passport, they said they saw Asian Chinese individuals saying, oh, we're from Cuba.
So they wrote down there from Cuba and had to let them legally walk right in under that administration. But the drugs, the trafficking, I learned a new term, disposable child. The Customs, the Border Patrol agents told me that they saw a little boy and they kept recognizing the same little boy over and over and over coming in.
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Chapter 4: How is the fentanyl crisis being addressed?
And you'll find a tree down on the southern border with 10, 20 pairs of underwear as they're mocking law enforcement, saying we can do whatever we want. And for four years, the Biden Justice Department, they just they just turned a blind eye and they facilitated it. You know, you talked about the kids. So they had a policy. If you arrive with a kid, it's essentially a get out of jail free card.
And so you started seeing a phenomenon that we've never seen in immigration before. which is single young men showing up with little kids.
Now, that's not a normal pattern of migration, but we started seeing military-age men showing up with little boys and little girls, many of whom are physically and sexually assaulted in transit, and the same kid the cartels would recycle over and over and over again to bring in gang members, to bring in criminals. Now, let me ask this.
What is most effective stopping the invasion at the southern border?
The border, closing our borders, which is what we've done. Donald Trump has closed our border. But now, of course, we all know we have so many of these illegal aliens, fighting-age men, ages 18 to 35, in our country, walking around our country. And President Trump has given a strong directive on that.
How concerned are you right now about the 12 million illegal aliens who came in under Joe Biden, and about the risk of terrorism of Hamas, of Hezbollah, of Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the risk of terrorism targeting Americans across this country?
It's a huge risk, and we all know how bad it is now. And that's what Donald Trump is committed to do, is to take these people out of our country, to prosecute them, to deport them, to get them off our streets. And that's what all of these law enforcement agencies are doing.
You know, Lake and Riley, of course, that beautiful young woman, University of Georgia, Lake and Riley is probably the most prominent name. But look how many Lake and Riley's are out there. One victim is too many. Jocelyn Numbury, Rachel Moran. Right, right.
I mean, the numbers every day. Mm-hmm. And I've got to say, so already in the first two weeks, you've sued New York, you've sued Chicago. You can clap for that. These sanctuary cities that are fighting, and I've got to say, Massachusetts in particular, actually in our last podcast we talked about this, how Massachusetts continues to this day to have violent child rapists, illegal immigrants,
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Chapter 5: What actions are being taken against sanctuary cities?
So one of the most shocking statistics from the prior administration is the number 300,000. 300,000 children. that the prior administration had in custody and that they lost, that they do not know where they are. We know that many of those children are being abused right now.
Tell me about the efforts you and Homeland Security and the Trump administration, the efforts you are doing to find those children and to get them out of harm's way.
That's top priority, and that's Donald Trump's top priority, to find these victims and to save them. And that's what I don't, I truly can't comprehend how any administration would let that happen and not care. And that's what we're all fighting for. You know, you say, when you take a job with this incredible volume, you think, How do you do it? How do you focus every day?
And you do it by saying, if I can save one life, it's worth it.
Well, it's a lot more than one.
But it compounds. That's how you start off. One life.
And it is thousands and ultimately more. So I want to say something to the folks here at CPAC. which is, as many of y'all know, Ben and I do this podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz. We do it three days a week. We do it Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. We've got roughly a million unique listeners all over the country.
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Chapter 6: What challenges does Pam Bondi face with the deep state?
Should this be something that is looked at to see what he did while he was president?
Don't you find it very interesting that they attempted to prosecute the president for having documents in the most secure place in the world other than the White House, Mar-a-Lago, and he had the security clearance to take them. Yet Joe Biden, who had no security clearance to take them at the time, had them in his garage with his drug addict son going in and out of his garage.
Yet what did they say about him?
Too old to prosecute.
Frail, frail old man. But listen, Donald Trump and I have not talked about that at all. This is not about targeting. This is what they do to us. This is not about targeting. This is not about weaponization. This is about keeping America safe and going forward and prosecuting violent criminals. If you committed a crime in this country, no one is above the law. I will say that.
No one is above the law.
So, Pam, the media are going crazy about New York Mayor Eric Adams and the charges that were dismissed against him.
So glad you brought that up.
Tell us what the story is, what happened there, and why were the charges dismissed?
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Chapter 7: How is human trafficking and child protection prioritized?
There's a lot I can't talk about now. But very publicly, I think you've seen a lot happen. A lot is happening every day. Our great men and women in law enforcement are out there. It's a joint effort with our office and with Kristi Noem. And again, we all work so well together, whether it's Mike Walsh.
Y'all are friends.
I think people don't understand this.
Like this is a group and this administration and you and I have talked about this on the show. You guys are friends. Like y'all know each other before you got here. How important are those relationships that you say, hey, I trust, excuse me, I trust you. I trust you. I trust you. I got your back. Let's go to work.
Vital and crucial. And Mike Watts and Christy, we're on the phone with each other all the time. And to change the topic just a little bit, just to give you an example, Lee Zeldin, a dear friend of mine.
Great guy.
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Chapter 8: How can listeners stay informed through the Verdict podcast?
On President's Day.
Running the EPA now.
EPA, Lee Zeldin, great administrator of EPA. I'm on the phone hours with Scott Besson, our Secretary of Treasury, and Lee Zeldin. And, you know, we've seen, thanks to Elon Musk, my buddy's great work.
Yep.
And it's been reported, look what they're doing at EPA, I'm changing the subject a little bit, but they're giving out billions of dollars after Joe Biden lost the election, trying to push this money out the door.
Virtually shoveling cash out the windows.
As I said, gold bars.
Yeah.
Let's throw all the gold bars off the ship.
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