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Why Harvard is fighting back

Wed, 16 Apr 2025

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Harvard is refusing to play along with the Trump administration's demands of elite universities, whereas at least 10 Florida public universities are openly cooperating with ICE. This episode was produced by Miles Bryan and Devan Schwartz, edited by Miranda Kennedy, fact checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Andrea Kristinsdottir and Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram. Listen to Today, Explained ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast. Harvard University's unofficial turkey mascot during a February college basketball game. Photo by Erica Denhoff/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What is Harvard's stance against the Trump administration's demands?

2.386 - 11.06 Sean Rameswaram

Harvard University, birthplace of napalm, setting of Legally Blonde, currently fighting back against the president in his war on higher education.

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12.542 - 13.284 Unknown Speaker

What, like it's hard?

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16.365 - 18.946 Sean Rameswaram

You've surely heard about Harvard's showdown with President Trump.

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19.326 - 23.126 Unknown Speaker

He also wants to see Harvard apologize, and Harvard should apologize.

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23.306 - 43.733 Sean Rameswaram

Just like you've probably heard about the president's wins over at Columbia. But on the far other side of the spectrum, we've got at least 10 Florida state universities. These schools aren't fighting the president. They're going in the complete opposite direction. They're raising their hands up and waving them at ICE, saying... Come on in. Here's our roster of students.

44.193 - 56.089 Sean Rameswaram

See anything you don't like? Question. Detain. Go to town. On Today Explained, we're going to take a look at the two extremes in this fight, fight, fight at American universities.

60.714 - 77.246 Unknown Speaker

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77.646 - 81.829 Unknown Speaker

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83.683 - 104.413 Cam Hayward

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