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Chapter 1: What are the feelings surrounding family estrangement during the holidays?
The holidays are basically here. It's the happiest time of the year for some, and for others, the opposite.
Life for me at the Halloween is literally downhill.
I picked up a snow globe the other day and just wanted to cry. Nobody wants to go home and see their Republican family members.
There's an increasingly popular option for all the people who don't love seeing their parents during the holidays or any other time of the year. You can peace out.
So I cut my dad off like a couple weeks ago. I fully believe in protecting my own energy.
This is my polite reminder that if you are no contact with your parents, that is okay. So one thing I really did not expect when I became estranged from my parents was that I was going to have to be consoling other people about it like semi-frequently.
We're going to take a deep breath and then we're going to talk about parental estrangement on Today Explained.
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Chapter 2: How can cutting off toxic family members be a form of self-care?
And I think that the taboos against estrangement really push people to justify cutting ties in ways that aren't really healthy. You know, there's no estrangement police. There shouldn't be an estrangement police. And this is America. We have the right to never speak to our parents again. Really, like, if you're like, oh, duty, obligation, it's like, that is not American.
I love that. You make it sound patriotic.
Just think of all the people at Ellis Island holding a suitcase, thinking, I'm never going to see my family again, and being overjoyed that that's the case. Yeah. Back then, you really got a clean break. And now you almost have to estrange yourself because the person you don't want to talk to can text you all day, every day.
Yeah.
No, it's true because people talk about estrangement like it's a technology problem as if like TikTok and Instagram are just infecting everybody's minds with this idea. I think it's a technology problem in the other way where we're way too accessible and there's no more etiquette anymore.
So all we have left is boundaries and sometimes the ultimate boundary of saying I will never speak to you again.
Let's say in like 15 years, you know, God forbid, I'm not wishing this upon you, but I'm just asking, if your daughter maybe now has this idea that estrangement is kind of normal because you did it, if she decided, for example, she didn't want to talk to you anymore, how would you react? Do you think because you've had this experience, you'd try to understand it?
I mean, I would be heartbroken, and I definitely think I would try to understand it. What I hope is that parents focus way more on how do I build a relationship of reciprocal affection, kindness, respect with my kids. Because there's a lot of people who are like, you owe your parents. They say your parents raised you.
The least you can do is suck it up and stay in this relationship that's making you really unhappy. And I just don't think that that tracks with the modern world or with modern life. People point out this breakdown between the generations. And I actually think that there's truth to that.
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