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Chapter 1: What is the context of President Trump's Middle East trip?
Donald Trump's in the Middle East doing the kinds of things you might expect a U.S. president to do while in the Middle East. He's been shaking hands with leaders, posing for photos. Here's some Fox News coverage. Donald's been doing diplomacy. He made a big announcement on Tuesday.
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And on Wednesday, Trump met with Syria's new president, Ahmed al-Sharra, a former al-Qaeda leader who used to be on the U.S. terror list, I might add.
Young, attractive guy. Tough guy.
But while in the Middle East, and before he even got there, the president and his family have also been doing things you'd never expect a U.S. president and his family to do. Making hotel deals, golf course deals, plane gift deals, crypto deals. All the president's side hustles on Today Explained.
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Chapter 2: What side hustles is the Trump family involved in during this trip?
And ethical quandaries be damned? I mean, just to bring this back to where we started, his kids show up first, make a bunch of deals. You're saying some of those deals are pretty close to, if not involving, foreign governments. And then the president rolls in, makes a bunch more deals, and also is dealing with those same actors. Yeah. in the process.
Right. It's like, any questions? Any questions? Like, you summed it up. That's right. I mean, these different things, I mean, look, the LIV Golf, we haven't even talked about LIV Golf, but that's the Saudi-backed golf league that's a real competitor to the PGA Tour. And it's run by the head of Saudi Arabia's Sovereign Wealth Fund. You know, and what did they do? He hosted a tournament.
He hosted a tournament for them at Doral in Florida. And frankly...
What they're doing for golf is so great. What they're doing for the players is so great. The salaries are going to go way up.
And what happened? All of these people came to Doral, filled up the hotel, ate in the restaurant, sat out there on the golf course, right? So he has benefited from that. is clearly an ally of the Saudis as they, you know, the government is sort of working in this private space, but it's still the government, right?
There's investors, Qatari investors, who have invested in some of the Trump Corporation projects over there. So they are working together in the sort of official space, and then they are working together in the private space as well. And that's just how he's going to run foreign policy. The ethical watchdogs can howl at the moon, but it's not going to stop him from operating this way.
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