And, This Is Charlie Kirk
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Who are the hosts and guests of this episode?
This is Gavin Newsom. And this is Charlie Kirk.
By the way, what brings you to California, your favorite state? It is my, ooh, this thing's falling. It is my favorite state in the union. You're doing such a great job here, by the way. No, I'm honored to be on the show. Thank you.
Why is Charlie Kirk visiting California?
You were just down at USC?
I was at USC yesterday, drew a big crowd.
By the way, I knew you were at USC early because my niece, who's graduating- She was the one with the MAGA hat on. She was, by the way, I do have to watch, but she was down there and she was like- You never know.
These kids are going to the right.
I'm aware. She said, this crowd's crazy. And the only reason she said it, she would have said it perhaps otherwise, but she knew you were coming on. The worst part though, Charlie, no BS, true story. Literally last night, trying to put my son to bed. He's like, no, dad. I just, what time? What time's Charlie going to be here? What time? And I'm like, dude, you're in school tomorrow. He's 13. He's like, no, no. This morning, wakes up at six something. He's like, I'm coming. I'm like, he literally would not leave the house. Did you let him to take off school? No, he didn't. Of course not. He's not here for a good reason. But the point is the point.
You canceled school for like two years. Once one took one day.
The point is the point, which is you are making a damn dent.
Thank you. I'm kidding.
No, but I know. And I, but I appreciate that. I mean, it's the reason you're here because I think people need to understand your success, your influence, what you've been up to, and the fact that you're on these college campus doors. And to your point, man, you just open up. I mean, you're like, ask me anything. Anything. Challenge me? Challenge me, whatever.
What is Charlie Kirk's influence on college campuses?
When did this whole thing, when did you start putting this together?
I've been at this for 13 years, and it's been a wild movement, really accelerated once President Trump kind of came on the scene. Right around, I'd say, 2021, we had a goal. Could we move the youth vote 10 points over 10 years?
And was it literally you sat down and put that numerical together?
Yeah, like, can we move it 10 points over 10 years? Ish, you know, approximate. Because our whole hypothesis was, and we, you know, we did this alongside President Trump and his great team, was that this demographic is disproportionately to the Democrat side. We believe Democrats were taking them for granted. We think that your side had no message whatsoever and an ideological monopoly. We saw some of the fault lines there. And to President Trump's credit, he also harmonized with the strategy by going on podcasting and using TikTok. But yeah, I mean, we did it in four years, not 10, large in part, thanks to you guys.
And we'll get to that, and sincerely get to that, because I want to stress test some of those fault lines as it relates to the reality of our party and where we are today, vis-a-vis your ascendancy, not just individually as an organization. But where was that sort of moment for you? Because it's interesting. I mean, you're such a young guy, so it's not like deep biography here. It's not like 20 years in the wilderness, writing his first book, getting a TV show that was canceled, coming back. It's more just this immediacy of ascendancy. Was it, I mean, were you sort of born and bred with an ideological mindset or were you more open-minded and you started to realize a lot of BS was out there?
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
Who are the hosts and guests of this episode?
0:46–1:04
2
Why is Charlie Kirk visiting California?
1:04–2:18
3
What is Charlie Kirk's influence on college campuses?
2:18–8:18
4
How did Charlie Kirk's movement grow?
8:18–20:40
5
What role did Donald Trump play in Charlie Kirk's rise?
20:40–38:58
6
How does Charlie Kirk view higher education?
38:58–55:23
7
What are the key political differences discussed in the episode?
55:23–1:15:08
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