
The Science of Flipping
The Leadership Mistake That’s Killing Your Business (And How to Fix It) | Cody Hofhine
Fri, 14 Mar 2025
In this episode, I sit down with real estate powerhouse Cody Hofhine to break down exactly what it takes to scale from hustling investor to CEO of an 80+ franchise empire. We dive deep into the real reason most investors stay stuck—spoiler: it’s not marketing, it’s mindset and leadership. Cody shares his journey from selling vinyl fences to co-owning Joe Homebuyer, the power of personal development in business growth, and the negotiation tactics that will transform your deal flow. We also discuss why most investors fail to scale, the biggest leadership mistakes entrepreneurs make, and how to build a business that doesn’t just make money but also gives you freedom. If you’re ready to stop making excuses, level up your mindset, and lead like a CEO, this episode is a must-listen! -- Cody Hofhine is a successful real estate investor, mentor, and entrepreneur, known for his expertise in wholesaling and real estate investing. He is the co-founder of Wholesaling Inc., founder of Utah Sell Now, LLC, and creator of the Real Estate Freedom Formula, where he helps others build profitable real estate businesses. After struggling in insurance sales, Cody discovered wholesaling in 2015 and closed his first deal in just 39 days, making $24,000. Since then, he has scaled multiple businesses, landed on the Inc. 5000 list, and helped thousands of investors succeed through coaching and mentorship. Website: joehomebuyer.com Instagram: @codyhofhine Facebook: Cody Hofhine LinkedIn: Cody Hofhine -- Thank you to our partners for supporting today's episode! Empowered Investor LIVE! - Take control of your financial future with top real estate experts, builders, lenders, and investors. Join Us at Empowered Investor Live – April 4-6, 2025, in Irvine, CA! Spots are limited – grab your ticket now! 👉 Get Tickets Joe Homebuyer – Want to scale your real estate business fast? Get expert training, weekly coaching, and a proven system to close more deals. High achievers even qualify for luxury rewards! Learn more at joehomebuyer.com. 📊 Quality Skip – More accurate data means more deals! Get premium skip tracing for just 6 cents per match and connect with the right sellers every time. Use code "SOF" for 10% off at qualityskip.com! Mando Whole Body Deodorant – Stay fresh and confident with Mando's doctor-developed, aluminum-free deodorant. Clinically proven to block odor for up to 72 hours, it's safe for use anywhere on your body. Use code 'COLBY' for $5 off a Starter Pack! -- About Justin: After investing in real estate for over 17 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and focusing on lead generation which allows him to not just wholesale and fix & flip, but also accumulate wealth through long term holds. His success in real estate led him to start The Entrepreneur DNA podcast and The Science Of Flipping podcast and education company, and REI LIVE where he’s actively doing deals with members. He has coached and mentored thousands of aspiring and active investors over the last decade. Connect with Justin: Instagram: @thejustincolby YouTube: Justin Colby TikTok: @justincolbytsof LinkedIn: Justin Colby
Chapter 1: What mindset shifts are crucial for business growth?
So let's talk about how you bring that to the table for Joe Holm by our franchisees.
Okay. So example, last Thursday. So every Thursday I get to do a call with our franchisees and it's always built around personal development. So they know my call is just going to be personal development. It's like the, we call it the chocolate covered broccoli, right? Like no one wants broccoli. So you got to, you just got to hide the broccoli in the chocolate, right?
Give them what they think they want, but give them what you know they need, right? Yeah. And so last week we went over five daily non-negotiables. Some of those are, for example, read 10 pages daily. There's so many great people out there. In fact, I would assume you read a ton. And if not, you're probably doing a ton of audio.
Audiobooks are my thing. Like on the way here, I will tell you I listened to two just because I want to highlight this. Right. Brand it like Serhant. Yeah. Because I think he is our generational branding genius. Okay. Okay. So I'm like, what does he have to say about this? Brilliant book, by the way, if you guys care about brand. Yeah. Brilliant book. And then the, what was it? Undo.
I'll look at it right now. But basically, if things aren't working, how do you change? Yeah. I think it's called Undo. Okay. I'll get it on my book. Anyways, because I'm always looking to...
Get better. Yes. And the great people have already lived an incredible life, have left success clues for us all along the way. And they write them in these books. That's right. And it's available to everyone. Elon Musk. Yeah. He read 10 hours a day as a kid. Look what he's doing in the world today. Totally.
Like he read the Britannica, the whole encyclopedia Britannica before he was nine years old.
reset is another book reset reset and things aren't going the way you're trying to make them go how do you actually press reset so you can achieve what you want yeah by dan heath he's already a three-time best-selling author right like yeah the great people are always trying to learn always trying to learn warren buffett i would consider him already a great a great a great still spends eight hours a day reading isn't that well now it's because you have nothing else to do
He's on a whole different planet of what he's doing. Yeah. But it's just... That's some of the daily non-negotiables. Working out. Like bringing your body to a sweat. Working out 45 minutes a day. Make that a daily non-negotiable. And so they're not coming to me to say, hey, my marketing's out of sync. What do you think I should do? I'm like... I don't know, but have you moved your body today?
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Chapter 2: How did Cody Hofhine transition into real estate?
I don't have any significant interest in you flipping that home. I want you to flip it and win. That's right. Let me tell you why you aren't.
That's exactly right. So we've had experiences, and Mark knows, like, if there's a hard message that has to be delivered, That's you. I get to deliver it.
Okay, so how do you deliver that? Let's talk to the leaders of the group or wannabe leaders.
Yeah.
How do you take a really hard message that you have to deliver to anybody?
Yeah. How do you frame it? Okay, so there's a book out there, first and foremost, to kind of reference to this. Crucial Conversations. It's one of the greatest books around this.
Okay.
And it just talks about these conversations have to be had. You just have to have them. They're not going to be fun. They're going to be awkward. But something changed when I really loved the individual. Because I asked for their permission. Hey, are you okay that I'm going to tell you things?
And it may be things that you may not like to hear, but are you okay if I tell you the honest truth right now? And they're like, yeah, tell me. And so I get their permission first and foremost. And then I tell them it. And I don't mince words. I don't think, well... What I kind of noticed is like, no, it's like you just say it and you just have to say it. Here's what I noticed.
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