The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
Raging Moderates: Newsom's Centrist Approach and Kamala’s Political Future
Tue, 11 Mar 2025
Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov break down Trump’s tariff whiplash and the chaos it’s causing for businesses. Then, they dig into Rep. Al Green’s censure after protesting Trump’s Joint Address and what it says about divisions within the Democratic Party. Plus, Governor Gavin Newsom stirs controversy over transgender athletes, and James Carville urges Democrats to sit back and let Republicans self-destruct. Follow Jessica Tarlov, @JessicaTarlov. Follow Prof G, @profgalloway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?
Welcome to Raging Moderates. I'm Scott Galloway.
And I'm Jessica Darla.
Jess, how are you?
I'm great.
How are you? I'm good. I'm in the great state of Texas at South by Southwest.
I've been seeing on social. You're all over. Really? Well, your own social. Your team's doing a great job.
I'm all over. I just love me. I did a big, when I went on stage yesterday for Pivot, I danced around with my belly hanging out, screaming. That was a big hit.
Yeah?
That was a big hit. Yeah, no, mockery is always, the algorithms love mockery.
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Chapter 2: How are Trump's tariffs affecting global markets?
We were wondering the whole time if there were other people around, and there was a happy hour, which saw like 20 people at, and that was the max the whole time. So it was very cool and secluded. And my best friend has the same birthday as me. We met in preschool and she came with her husband. They live in Florida now. So it was cool.
In your 37, 38?
No, the big four ones. So seven years until my midlife crisis, according to you, right? Where I started traveling only with my girlfriends and dancing with my belly out.
But the good news is, is that for men, 50 is the new 30 and for women, 40 is the new 80. I hadn't heard that one before.
That's good. It's not really. It's upsetting. But thank you.
That's good. Yeah, that's, that's. Es gibt einen Begriff für das, New York. Okay, genug davon. Lass uns da rein. Präsident Trump hat die finanziellen Märkte in einen Halsspin gesetzt letzte Woche. Heute werden wir darüber sprechen, dass Trump auf den Terror zurücktritt. Repräsentant Val Green wird für die Proteste, die Trump versucht, zu beurteilen, zensiert.
What Governor Newsom really thinks about trans rights. And James Carville's surprising advice to Democrats. Do nothing. So, markets kind of very volatile this week or last week with this ever-changing trade policy. On Thursday, he delayed tariffs on goods from Canada and Mexico, giving industries a brief bit of relief.
But on Friday, he was back on offense, threatening new tariffs on Canadian lumber and dairy, claiming Canada has been ripping us off for years. The back and forth has left businesses scrambling and critics warning of economic fallout. Just How do these sudden shifts in trade policy impact businesses and global markets?
Really badly. And the strangest part to me has been how little he seems to care. Because he was totally like live by the market, die by the market. And he's taking a very laissez-faire attitude towards it. He was interviewed by Maria Bartiromo. And she was asking about this because, you know, business anchors, no matter their partisan affiliations, have been freaking out.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of Newsom’s stance on transgender rights?
Ich meine, das hat so viele Ripple-Effekte auf der Wirtschaft, dass ihre Advertiservereinigungen runtergehen, weil einige der größten Advertiservereinigungen sind Automobilunternehmen und sie sind literal nur, wir wissen nicht, was zu tun, wir haben alle Marketing und Spenden aufgehoben, weil wir wissen, dass wir nicht viele Autos haben werden und wir sind einfach nicht sicher, was passieren wird.
Also können sie nicht mal planen, wenn die Tarife absolut rein geht, würden sie sagen, okay, wir müssen unser Geschäftsmodell planen, wir werden Preise erhöhen, alternative Routen oder Supply Chain finden, Aber sie hätten einen Geschäftsplan. Jetzt ist das das Schlimmste der Welt. Ich denke, das ist, was Eisenhower gesagt hat.
Die falsche Entscheidung ist schlecht, aber keine Entscheidung ist schlimmer. Es gibt ganze Unternehmen, die keine Entscheidung machen müssen, weil sie nicht wissen, in welchem Umfeld sie arbeiten werden.
Ja, Trump hat sich von diesem Rundum von Tarifen ausgedrückt, weil die CEOs von den großen Fahrzeugunternehmen zu ihm gerufen haben und gesagt haben, dass sie das nicht tun können. Ich meine, es sind 8.000 bis 12.000 Dollar extra für eine normale Fahrt, es sind 20.000 Dollar für einen Truck. So anyone who is actually using their car for work is facing an extra 20k, which is obviously unaffordable.
I agree with what you're saying. I don't think that it means that tariffs aren't going to end up being a tax on the consumer. A majority of Americans know that. I think it could go up to $1,800 actually per annum per family. The cost of these if they're implemented in the way that they're being posed or pitched. But the result that I'm seeing most clearly from
Do you know of any world leader with an 85% approval rating who isn't like Vladimir Putin and has fake polling?
Oh, the queen. I don't know. You're right.
That's insane. It's remarkable. And also for a female head of state, right, on top of it, which I wouldn't expect.
A Jewish climate scientist.
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Chapter 4: Why did Rep. Al Green face censure and what does it mean for Democrats?
You were good before that. I was good. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. I am who I am. Aber ja, ich stimme mit dir. Am Anfang dachte ich, es ist gut, dass sie ihn zentriert haben. Und dann dachte ich, warum entscheiden wir immer, uns selbst zu essen und uns zu halten? Wie du gesagt hast, wir schießen uns selbst in den Fuß. Und ich bin mir nicht sicher, dass wir uns zerstören sollten.
Aber ich dachte, es war ein schrecklicher Blick auf die Demokraten. But what really pissed me off was seeing progressives criticizing Elisa Slotkin, who gave the democratic response. So Bernie did his own thing, as usual, and he did great. He had millions of social media impressions. He is a viral machine in the best possible way. But Elisa Slotkin gave the Democratic response.
She did an amazing job. There were conservatives all over social media saying she did a great job. She talked about being called to service. In New York on 9-11, went and joined the CIA, did three tours. She just won a swing state that Donald Trump won. She managed to pull that off. She talked about growing up in a household...
mit einer Mutter, die für Demokraten gewählt hat, und einem Vater, der für Republikaner gewählt hat. Sie hat darüber gesprochen, wie glücklich sie war, dass wir Reagan während der Koldauer und nicht Trump hatten, weil er die Welt an die USSR schieben würde. Und die Progressivisten schlagen auf sie, weil sie sagte, dass George Bush ein Patriot war. und dass sie etwas Gutes über Reagan gesagt hat.
Und ich habe viele Kommentare gesehen, wie, oh, warum spricht sie nicht über die FDR? Die FDR ist nicht ein Touchpoint für viele Menschen, die gerade wach sind. Ich verstehe auf historischer Ebene, warum das Sinn macht. Aber wenn Sie denken, dass das Reden über Reagan und Bush als gute Charaktere ist,
Das ist nicht witzig, wenn du versuchen willst, Wettbewerber, moderatische Wettbewerber, linksflächige Independenten, sogar einige rechtsflächige Independenten, für dich zu wählen. Oder sogar nur, dass sie uns erzählt, wie sie ihre Wahl gewonnen hat. Ich meine, wir sollten nur immer Tutorials von Demokraten haben, die diese Wunder in diesem Umfeld entfernt haben. Es hat mich wirklich verärgert.
Ich dachte, wenn du denkst, dass sie zu konservativ ist, dass du nicht magst, dass sie für den Lake-and-Riley-Akt votiert hat, dass du dich interessierst, wie sie auf Trans-Issuen, etc. sein wird, das ist in Ordnung. Es gibt einen Zeitpunkt für das. Aber wenn du jemanden siehst, der sich aufhört,
After Trump's speech, which had a very high approval rating in terms of the audience, which was skewed Republican, of course, but still, like, he did well in terms of his delivery.
She gets up there, she gives a succinct response to it that talks about what really should matter to the party, like the economy, our national security, making sure that the day-to-day lives of Americans is improved and better. And you want to shit on her? Like, I have no time for that at all.
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Chapter 5: How does the Democratic Party's internal division impact its strategy?
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Welcome back. Before we go, California Governor Gavin Newsom is under fire from LGBTQ plus activists after saying it's deeply unfair for transgender girls to compete in high school girls sports. He made the comments on the debut episode of his new podcast while chatting with right wing provocateur Charlie Kirk. Newsom wants a trailblazer for LGBTQ rights.
also agreed that a Trump-Campaign ad attacking Kamala Harris over gender-affirming care was politically devastating. Speaking of Harris, she's reportedly considering a run for California governor in 2026. And she's told allies she'll decide by the end of the summer. One could cement her leadership in the Democratic Party, but take her out of the running for president in 2028.
Meanwhile, Democratic strategist James Carville has a message for the party. Do nothing. He argues that Republicans are so bad at governing, their own chaos will sink them. Jess, does Newsom's stance on trans athletes hurt his 2028 chances, especially with progressives?
I mean, they're not gonna like it. It's... Es ist ein 80-20-Issue. Like across the general public against it. But it's also 67 to 31 percent of self-identified Democrats do not think that transgender women should be playing in women's sports. So this is the common sense position, right? This is the stuff that we've been talking about.
Since the Charlemagne the God ad came out, but really for several years, right? Like what Bill Maher has been going on and on and on about. Just say the normal thing, which this is biologically unfair. We are not trying to tamp down on someone's civil rights.
It's hard to make an argument that it is the civil rights issue of our time that transgender women get to compete on a collegiate level against women. We're not talking about... having equal access to all the amenities of society, being treated equally under the law. We're talking about a very specific test case of this.
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Chapter 6: What role does synchronicity play in Republican and Democratic strategies?
On the left, it's more nuanced in the sense that if you don't sign up to the narrative in this kind of certain ideology, you're treated like an apostate. And the blowback on this, if you didn't sign up for the narrative, and there was just no critical thinking, this kind of seemed like an easy one. But I think we lost a lot of credibility.
Anyways, what do you think of the idea of a Governor Harris?
I don't think we're going to have a President Harris. So I think that it is a much more reasonable idea for her to run for Governor if she wants to continue to serve the country. I know that she's technically the frontrunner in the early polls for 2028, which is what happens. The last nominee is always the person that's furthest ahead. And she did save us from... Ja, genau.
You know, I assume that people would line up for her in California and that there are a lot of people who are considering running who would kind of bow down to the idea of Kamala getting in. And perhaps that's the right route for her. But I just I feel strongly that the national stage is not going to be where she ends up again.
I'm really split on this because she's a competent person, right? And I think she was a good Attorney General, good Senator. And she'd probably be, I'd like to think, a competent Governor. The problem is, I think when you run for President and you lose against Donald Trump, quite frankly, I think you go away for a while. I don't think...
I think she'll be a talking point for Republicans and their races if she maintains her national profile. I think when you lose your president, quite frankly, I think the best thing for the party would be if she just went dark until we have a Democratic president and she's appointed to the Supreme Court. I think she'd be an outstanding justice.
Really?
Yeah, I think she'd be an outstanding justice.
Yeah, I hadn't thought about that, actually. I mean, I know people say things like Obama, but I hadn't thought about it for Kamala.
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