The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
America’s Demographic Problem, Why Scott Became a Professor, and The Lazy Person’s Guide to Productivity
Wed, 19 Mar 2025
Scott discusses how declining birth rates could impact Disney and other businesses that rely on younger consumers. He then reflects on his journey in academia and offers advice to a listener navigating a teaching career. Finally, he shares strategies for managing energy and overcoming laziness to stay productive and achieve success. Subscribe to No Mercy / No Malice Buy "The Algebra of Wealth," out now. Follow the podcast across socials @profgpod: Instagram Threads X Reddit Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: How are declining birth rates affecting businesses like Disney?
Hi, Prof G and Ed. Love the show. I was wondering if the same demographic trends affecting higher ed will affect companies like Disney, who rely upon a younger demographic for their streaming content, venues, and other products. In other words, with fewer babies being born and as people age, they will drop their Disney subscriptions, forcing Disney to find new subscribers from a smaller pool.
What other companies might face this demographic challenge?
It's a really interesting question. I think about this through the lens of I have a son who will be applying to college. And actually, for the first time, the demographics are on his side. Fewer boys are applying to a college and just fewer people are applying to college. Although what's against him is because I'm a narcissist and want him to go to a quote-unquote prestige or elite school.
Chapter 2: What demographic challenges do companies face?
Is that true? You know, it's sort of true. I kind of come to the conclusion I just want them to be happy. But anyways, what you see is a crowding effect into the best universities. But on the whole, you're going to see tier two universities. go out of business like no tomorrow. People under the age of 18 represent roughly 21% of the total American population, down from 36% in the 60s.
Jesus Christ. You want to worry about Social Security? Who's going to pay for this goddamn thing? It's young people paying for it right now, and they used to be like... you know, 12 to one working age people to seniors. Now it's something like three to one. In the next 20 years, it's projected that American share of children will fall by an additional three percentage points.
The Census Bureau estimates that by 2060, America will add over 8 million children in comparison They estimate Americans over the age of 65 will increase by about 37 million. Okay, get this. 8 million new kids, 37 million more old people. The falling birth rate will likely have significant impacts on business, including baby product manufacturers, childcare services, and education providers.
Additionally, There'll be an enormous increase in demand for products and services aimed at the elderly population, including senior care and retirement communities. Yeah, no doubt some of the companies catering to kids will suffer. But coming like Disney, I think they're fine because, one, it's so fucking crowded as it is, and it's become a rite of passage.
Chapter 3: How does the aging population impact the economy?
People, you know, you're likely going to have child services called on you if you don't take your kids to Disney for what is the seventh circle of hell for a weekend of overpriced hotels and shitty food and two hour lines to get on the Avatar ride. I think Disney is going to be fine because there's a flight to quality and people will stop.
you know, go one level down, Six Flags, Magic Mountain or Bush Gardens or whatever it is now, I think they'll suffer. But I think what people will do is end up spending more money across fewer.
There's going to be a flight to quality just the same way that despite there being fewer young people, the elite colleges are booming because there's a kind of a rush to quality and they create this illusion of scarcity. They get more capital, trade at a higher multiple, reinvest in the new, you know, the new Star Wars land or Rogue Nine or whatever it is. And they kind of pull ahead.
from the competition. By the way, Disney for kids and Universal for the teenagers is what I've discovered as I've gotten older. The problems here are bigger than consumer companies. And that is now about 40% of our budget goes to services, Medicare, Social Security for people over the age of 65.
65?
People aren't even getting elected to the Senate. They're like the hot young thing when they show up to the Senate at 65. We absolutely need to address... There's not only this aging, but the fact that we continue to cram more money into the pockets of the old people.
I believe you could reverse engineer all of the biggest issues in our society, income inequality, polarization, extremism, to one thing, one stat, and that is for the first time in our nation's history, a 30-year-old isn't doing as well as his or her parents were at 30. That is a breakdown in the social compact. It doesn't mean a fucking thing that the S&P is touching new highs.
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Chapter 4: Why did Scott Galloway choose a career in academia?
It doesn't mean anything what GDP growth is if your kids aren't doing as well as you. So this connotes a bigger problem, specifically not only what it means for consumer brands with a population dearth, but what it means for our society when people no longer have the money or the confidence to have their own children. Thanks for the question.
Question number two. Hey, Scott. This is Sean calling from the Sunshine State of Florida. I'm a huge fan of you and all of your shows. While I've heard you speak about many, many things, and this show is called Office Hours, I've somehow missed you discuss your life working in academia. I began adjunct teaching on the side while working in the clinical world of healthcare.
I realized I absolutely love teaching, and more importantly, I loved helping students discover their potential career path in healthcare, despite the fact that I still have much to learn in my mid-30s. This year, I accepted a full-time position as a teaching professor at a university in Florida, which has been an amazing experience thus far.
My question for you is, what originally got you motivated to teach? And did your feelings change about teaching as the years went on? Like you, I'm not coming from a PhD background, but rather from working in the clinical world. I fear there will eventually be some sort of ceiling effect for me, both financially and just the idea of teaching the same thing year after year.
I'm grateful for what I'm doing and I'm enjoying what I'm doing, but I also like looking at the crystal ball and I'm just eager to continuously grow as both a person and a professional, which is why I love all your shows. Thanks for your answer and thanks for all that you do.
wow, Sean from Florida, we're going to need a bigger boat. So let's bring this back to me. My whole life, I've wanted to be a teacher. I thought I would really enjoy it and I'd be good at it. And I contemplated when I was in business school, applying to the PhD program and getting my PhD and pursuing a career in academia. And a couple of things happened.
One, my mom got very sick and I knew that I would need to start making money, that I just didn't have the kind of the capacity to take on another three years of student debt or not be making money. in a PhD program. And also some of it is less noble. I just thought I'd really like to get out there and start making real bank.
And I didn't see how I was going to do that as a prof, at least initially. So I went out, I gave myself 10 years before I would go back to teaching. And exactly 10 years later in 2002, after graduating from Haas in 1992, I joined the faculty at NYU. And one of the motivations for joining was I thought I was going to be rich and that I could leave and just go focus on teaching.
And I took a job paying $12,000 a year as an adjunct professor at NYU. And as you have your plans, then God laughs. My company, Red Envelope, did go public and on paper I was worth a lot of money. And then I wasn't when the dot-bomb implosion happened. So I kind of woke up and realized I was an adjunct professor making $12,000 a year. Now, having said that, I think academia is a wonderful career.
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Chapter 5: What is Scott Galloway's advice for a teaching career?
They can get tenure, which is guaranteed lifetime employment, which translates to student debt, as two-thirds of these individuals within 20 years are totally unproductive and overpaid.
And tenure is this kind of this grift where because Galileo said the world might be round and we thought we need to protect academics, we've decided that the guy who came up with Gap One Accounting in 1985 deserves lifetime employment. It's just fucking stupid.
The result is a crowding at the top of the pyramid and young academics who are really outstanding have trouble moving up because these people will not leave. And most of this quote unquote tenure is nothing but a guilt and a tax on young people. It translates to student debt. The administrative state is out of control at universities.
My department chair, or one of my department chairs in marketing was essentially a pretty weak academic who was a functioning or semi-functioning alcoholic. So I know, let's give her an administrative role. Look, you're going in as a practicing professor. Here are some tips. One, this is a business. And the way you increase your compensation is by putting butts in seats.
You're probably not going to do great peer-reviewed research. I was thinking about doing peer-reviewed research, and then I read it. I'm like, this is stupid. None of this shit has any relevance to anything. And so I started doing a lot of research, but I did it on the guise of a private company called L2.
And I got way more press and kind of private sector impact than almost any of the peer-reviewed research, maybe with the exception of some of the peer-reviewed research that the finance department does, which bubbles up guys like David Yermack and Aswathamotor and his imperial research, but it's just so powerful.
But anyways, what I found is that the key to a currency, and there's four or five of these people, essentially at NYU Stern, we have four or five ringers. And that is someone, a professor that everyone feels like they got to take, Glenn Okun or Sonia Marciano at NYU. There are clinicals. They don't have PhDs. They're practicing professors, but they're outstanding teachers.
And because it's a business, they have to have a certain number of classes that everyone, if they take three or four of these, they feel like they got their money's worth. Those people have real currency and power. I became one of those people. I became one of the ringers.
And so I could put 500 butts in seats every year, which at $7,000 per class, which is what we charge at NYU Stern, you're technically generating $3.5 million in income. They're paying you a lot less than that, but you have some currency. So the key for you, my friend, is just becoming outstanding at teaching and getting more butts in seats.
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