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Trump Witnesses Collapse Under Cross-Exam at Hearing

Thu, 15 May 2025

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Democratic Senators and Congressman conducting brilliant cross-exams of RFK Jr. and others in live tv at major hearings. Trade: Get 50% off your one-month trial at https://drinktrade.com/MEIDAS Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What was the outcome of the cross-examination of Trump cabinet members?

0.129 - 23.676 Ben Meiselas

Them Dems are at it again, some scathing cross-examination of these MAGA Republican witnesses, and particularly these Trump cabinet members, one by one, testifying, and Democratic senators smacking them down, Democratic House members smacking them down. Let's talk about what went down. Democratic Senator Chris Murphy, who's just been

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24.236 - 37.824 Ben Meiselas

crushing it lately on a tear of MAGA frauds, liars, and grifters. Here's Senator Murphy laying down the law with RFK Jr. Watch what goes down. Play this clip.

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38.08 - 63.274 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

APPROPRIATED BY CONGRESS FOR THE PURPOSE OF VACCINATION PROGRAMS. THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED. YOU'VE DONE THE OPPOSITE. YOU CANCELLED $12 BILLION IN GRANTS TO THE STATES, INCLUDING MY STATE, THAT ARE USED TO ADMINISTER AND TRACK VACCINES. YOU PROMISED CHAIRMAN CASSIDY WHEN DID I DO THAT? MADAM CHAIR, WOULD YOU ALLOW ME TO FINISH MY QUESTION? Let me finish my question.

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63.314 - 67.557 RFK Jr.

Just tell me when I did it so I can understand what the question is.

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67.697 - 94.234 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

You have canceled $12 billion in public health grants to states, whether you know this or not. That funding is used by the states in part to be able to administer and dispense information about vaccines. Mr. Secretary, let me give you the full panoply of the things you said before this committee that didn't turn out to be true.

94.795 - 117.589 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

You also promised Chairman Cassidy that the FDA would not change vaccine standards from quote, historical norms. But what happened as soon as you were sworn in? You announced new standards for vaccine approvals that you proudly referred to in your own press release as a radical departure from current practice. And experts say that that departure will delay approvals.

118.049 - 139.913 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

You also said specific to the measles vaccine that you support the measles vaccine, but you have consistently been undermining the measles vaccine. You told the public that the vaccine wanes very quickly. You went on the Dr. Phil show and said that the measles vaccine was never fully tested for safety. You said there's fetal debris in the measles vaccine. And this morning. All true. All true.

140.274 - 147.18 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

This morning. Do you want me to lie to the public? That's not none of that. Of course, it's true. Of course, it's true.

147.2 - 151.945 RFK Jr.

Senator, I'm begging your pardon. I do not know what you're talking about.

Chapter 2: How did Senator Chris Murphy challenge RFK Jr. on vaccine policies?

299.434 - 306.463 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

This is a very important agency, prevents babies from dying. This is the same one you fired every single person in this office as of April the 1st.

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307.183 - 315.474 Ben Meiselas

You see, he doesn't even know the most basic, basic things. Let's take a look at Democratic Senator Murray. Let's play this clip.

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316.496 - 340.412 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

but to delay her treatment by an additional four weeks. Now, an extra four weeks may not sound like a long time, but I will tell you, for stage four cancer patients like Natalie, this could mean the difference between life and death. Secretary Kennedy, how many staff have been cut from the NIH's clinical center? I want a specific number.

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341.733 - 349.683 RFK Jr.

I can't tell you that now, Senator Marbury, but I can tell you that is that if you contact my office tomorrow, I'll look specifically into that.

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349.783 - 357.365 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

Well, that is not acceptable. I want an answer back by that. She deserves it. I do it. She doesn't have much time. She deserves an answer back.

357.605 - 362.386 RFK Jr.

Wouldn't you rather get her into that clinical trial as fast as you can?

362.686 - 363.226 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

Absolutely.

363.346 - 365.907 RFK Jr.

All right. So if you contact my office tomorrow.

368.08 - 375.129 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

You are here to defend your budget. I'm here to ask you questions about the impact of that. That's how you do it.

Chapter 5: What was RFK Jr.'s response to accusations about vaccine misinformation?

795.479 - 797.362 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

I don't want the choice to be uninsured.

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798.745 - 807.167 RFK Jr.

But they don't want the choice to die because they don't get to a doctor. Americans prefer private insurance to other insurance sources.

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807.467 - 814.249 Ben Meiselas

Now, our friend here at the Midas Touch Network, Senator Tammy Baldwin, got her shot at questioning RFK Jr. Play this clip.

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814.449 - 843.175 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

The request for federal assistance was denied because of lack of staff. The entire childhood lead poisoning branch has been fired. In the words of a Milwaukee mom, it really sends a message of, you don't matter. I don't know what you would say to parents who must now test their children for lead and deal with school closures, but do you intend to eliminate this branch at CDC, yes or no?

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843.515 - 844.656 RFK Jr.

No, we do not.

844.836 - 872.957 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

Okay. because you cannot tell us that you want to make America healthy again when you are willfully destroying programs that keep children safe and healthy from lead poisoning. Congress dedicated $51 million in funding for this particular program. But when a community asks for help to prevent lifelong complications for children, and there was no one there to pick up the phone,

874.178 - 884.147 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

And it's not because this program is ineffective. It's because you fired the entire team whose job it is to support communities like Milwaukee.

887.35 - 896.178 RFK Jr.

If that money has been appropriated, we will spend that money. If it's been appropriated to Milwaukee, we will spend it in Milwaukee. I've spent a lot of time in Milwaukee.

896.298 - 901.389 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

It's to provide expert support. And the entire staff has been fired.

Chapter 8: Who are the main speakers in this hearing and what roles do they play?

0.129 - 23.676 Ben Meiselas

Them Dems are at it again, some scathing cross-examination of these MAGA Republican witnesses, and particularly these Trump cabinet members, one by one, testifying, and Democratic senators smacking them down, Democratic House members smacking them down. Let's talk about what went down. Democratic Senator Chris Murphy, who's just been

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24.236 - 37.824 Ben Meiselas

crushing it lately on a tear of MAGA frauds, liars, and grifters. Here's Senator Murphy laying down the law with RFK Jr. Watch what goes down. Play this clip.

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38.08 - 63.274 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

APPROPRIATED BY CONGRESS FOR THE PURPOSE OF VACCINATION PROGRAMS. THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED. YOU'VE DONE THE OPPOSITE. YOU CANCELLED $12 BILLION IN GRANTS TO THE STATES, INCLUDING MY STATE, THAT ARE USED TO ADMINISTER AND TRACK VACCINES. YOU PROMISED CHAIRMAN CASSIDY WHEN DID I DO THAT? MADAM CHAIR, WOULD YOU ALLOW ME TO FINISH MY QUESTION? Let me finish my question.

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63.314 - 67.557 RFK Jr.

Just tell me when I did it so I can understand what the question is.

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67.697 - 94.234 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

You have canceled $12 billion in public health grants to states, whether you know this or not. That funding is used by the states in part to be able to administer and dispense information about vaccines. Mr. Secretary, let me give you the full panoply of the things you said before this committee that didn't turn out to be true.

94.795 - 117.589 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

You also promised Chairman Cassidy that the FDA would not change vaccine standards from quote, historical norms. But what happened as soon as you were sworn in? You announced new standards for vaccine approvals that you proudly referred to in your own press release as a radical departure from current practice. And experts say that that departure will delay approvals.

118.049 - 139.913 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

You also said specific to the measles vaccine that you support the measles vaccine, but you have consistently been undermining the measles vaccine. You told the public that the vaccine wanes very quickly. You went on the Dr. Phil show and said that the measles vaccine was never fully tested for safety. You said there's fetal debris in the measles vaccine. And this morning. All true. All true.

140.274 - 147.18 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse

This morning. Do you want me to lie to the public? That's not none of that. Of course, it's true. Of course, it's true.

147.2 - 151.945 RFK Jr.

Senator, I'm begging your pardon. I do not know what you're talking about.

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