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New York Attorney General Letitia James on Cases Against Trump

Wed, 12 Mar 2025

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas interviews New York Attorney General Letitia James on the cases filed against Trump and her efforts to stop his violations of the law. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: How did Letitia James successfully prosecute Donald Trump for civil fraud?

0.109 - 26.287 Ben Meiselas

I'm joined by New York Attorney General Letitia James. New York Attorney General James, you've successfully prosecuted Donald Trump in a civil fraud case, $486 million judgment. So you understand how at least he operates his businesses. Can you apply that to what he's doing right now with the government? Are you seeing similar patterns in how he's operating things?

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27.54 - 50.348 Letitia James

Yeah, so first of all, thank you so much for allowing me to be on your podcast. I really appreciate it. You know, listen, we brought the case against Donald Trump, who was then a civilian, because he inflated his assets for the purposes of taking advantage of low interest rates and insurance rates. You know, he engaged in this pattern and practice of illegality.

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51.549 - 73.137 Letitia James

And it was following a two-year investigation after hearing individuals' witnesses before a hearing. And so he would like to allege that it was politics, but it really wasn't. It was based on facts and the rule of law. And so we were able to secure a summary judgment. And then after a hearing, we secured a judgment and the interest rate continued to go up

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74.237 - 91.042 Letitia James

And we are awaiting at this point in time a decision from the appellate division of the state of New York. And now what he is doing is causing more chaos, confusion and contempt, contempt for the law, contempt for individuals who work each and every day to serve our government, contempt for Congress.

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91.642 - 113.758 Letitia James

Republican members have just rolled over and allowed Elon Dusk and his musketeers, obviously, to gain access to our private and personal information. He's throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks. And it's basically a brazen attack on a democratic system of government. And so I've got a duty and obligation to defend the rule of law.

113.818 - 127.731 Letitia James

I took an oath to the constitution and not to the king. And that's what we are doing each and every day. It was not my intention to resist.

128.951 - 153.236 Letitia James

But it is my intention, obviously, to ensure that the rights and privileges of New Yorkers are respected and to use the law both as a sword and as a shield, particularly to protect vulnerable and marginalized populations and individuals who tell me their stories each and every day about losing their job, individuals who are afraid about Social Security, individuals who are veterans, law enforcement individuals, and people who are afraid

153.676 - 175.153 Ben Meiselas

about their loved ones being deported and separated i want to talk about some of the specific cases that your attorney general's office is involved in but in that case against trump as you mentioned inflating assets there would be certain assets that would be x and he would just say they are y just put kind of a bunch of fraudulent and fake numbers to those assets now

175.874 - 193.401 Ben Meiselas

You kind of see the same playbook, though, with this administration. I mean, you know, you had Trump and Elon Musk saying that somewhere between 400 billion and 600 billion dollars of Social Security payments are like, quote unquote, they're saying incorrect or fraudulent payments. And then.

Chapter 2: What are the patterns of illegality Letitia James sees in Trump's actions?

580.336 - 594.964 Letitia James

A number of agencies, including USAID, including Department of Defense, all of the federal agencies, we were able to get a preliminary injunction with respect to those cases. NIH, the National Institute of Health, was his other executive order, going after

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595.624 - 616.04 Letitia James

um these institutions here in the state of new york some suny colleges who engage in groundbreaking groundbreaking expertise and groundbreaking scientific research to find cures to cancer and to find cures to parkinson's and heart disease and these

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616.9 - 634.331 Letitia James

agencies, National Institute of Health gives grants to the University of Albany, the University of Buffalo, Stony Brook, and these are economic engines within these respective towns. We were able to get an executive order, we were able to get a temporary restraining order, and then we were able to get a preliminary injunction.

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634.892 - 654.494 Letitia James

Then he filed an action against employees, probationary employees, and the law requires that the states be given 60 days notice, and they violated that. Again, executive order, and they dismissed, and they fired all these individuals. Again, we were successful. in court and getting a temporary restraining order and a hearing on that case is on Thursday.

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656.676 - 684.046 Letitia James

There was a case with regards to grants for teachers to teach underserved communities and rural communities all throughout the state of New York and all around this country. And we, again, were able to seek a TRO, and that hearing is also on Thursday as well. We've also issued guidances to law enforcement and to hospitals that serve the LGBTQ community, again, focusing on gender-affirming care.

685.828 - 709.711 Letitia James

So the list goes on and on and on. Whenever he issues an executive order, it's the blue wall of defense, the attorneys general all across this country who responded in record time defending the rights of individuals, defending the rule of law and standing up for our democracy and for our freedom. And we'll continue to do that even with their threats and even

710.752 - 733.466 Letitia James

you know with all of their um you know the fact that they throw everything against the wall and see what's going to stick you know attorneys general um we're prepared to respond in record time what do you think of when uh you know given all of your legal experience and leading the top legal office in the state of new york when uh trump's doj lawyers

733.991 - 754.526 Ben Meiselas

are going into court and they're not able to answer these very basic questions by the judges of who's running a specific entity. And then the judge says, you don't know the answer. And then some of these DOJ lawyers are there saying, well, look, we're working as hard as we can. We're understaffed. We don't have the same amount of people that we do.

755.007 - 778.538 Ben Meiselas

I mean, as a lawyer, a former practicing lawyer, I'm thinking to myself, can I ever imagine going in front of a federal judge and saying that I don't have the staff to get the answers or being asked who runs the organization and I go, you know what? It's above my pay grade, I can't answer. What's your perspective when you hear transcripts and you see that? It's like sloppy and company.

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