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Molly Jong-Fast reacts to Trump’s Attacks On Americans

Sat, 24 May 2025

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on 2017 JD Vance predicting that Trump’s policies would destroy the lives of his supporters and Meiselas interviews Molly Jong-Fast about Trump’s inhumane policies. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What are Donald Trump's inhumane policies?

0.149 - 13.285 Ben Meiselas

Donald Trump is brutally screwing over his own voters. Those in the red states are going to be hit the hardest based on Donald Trump's schemes and scams. Don't trust me. How about 2017 J.D. Vance? Play the clip.

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14.238 - 32.051 Molly Jong-Fast

And as we've been talking about, this is not just a policy problem. There's obviously a significant issue of folks potentially losing access to their health care. But if you think of the political problem, you know, folks have always asked, what is it that's going to drive Donald Trump's voters away from them? Well, losing their health care may actually be the answer to that question.

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32.432 - 50.483 Molly Jong-Fast

And unfortunately, the Republicans, who I think have been very smart and frankly correct in the fact that Obamacare hasn't solved a lot of the core problems of the American health care market, now own the problem. They're going to learn very quickly, unless they craft a better bill, that it's not just enough to critique the bill that has failed in the past.

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50.803 - 56.386 Molly Jong-Fast

You have to actually offer a better alternative. And we're going to see if the Senate is able to actually put forward that alternative.

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56.586 - 82.227 Ben Meiselas

Democrats have also been. We all know under the new GOP budget scam, 13, 14 million Americans are going to lose their health care. They're going to lose access to supplemental nutrition assistance program food stamps. They're going to lose access to programs that provide cost of living and rental assistance. But. There's no longer regulation on silencers and silencers get tax exemption.

82.247 - 103.72 Ben Meiselas

So I guess silencers were a big winner. Also, of course, billionaires and oligarchs were a big winner, getting trillions of dollars in tax cuts from stealing from the poor. Then you've got these like Trump officials like Jeanine Pirro. making these like selfie videos of herself, like Jeanine Pirro, that yes, the Fox host is now the top federal prosecutor in Washington, DC.

104.18 - 115.346 Ben Meiselas

And she's like making selfie videos, whining over water and that she has to pay $7 for what, I don't even know what she's whining about, but let them eat cake, huh? Here, play this clip.

116.823 - 135.454 Judge Susan Crawford

Hi everyone, it's Judge Jeanine. I'm at the water cooler in the United States Attorney's Office in Washington, D.C. And you may recall that the United States gave something like $44 billion a year through USAID for things like dance classes in Wuhan, China, and Sesame Street in Iraq.

135.814 - 157.851 Judge Susan Crawford

But here in the United States, in the United States Attorney's Office, where we prosecute crime on behalf of the victims, On behalf of the people who are targeted by criminals, the U.S. attorneys, as well as the staff, in order to get water, they have to join a water club. And they have to pay. It's a dues-paying membership. And today they asked for our patience. Why?

Chapter 2: How will Trump's policies affect healthcare access?

214.52 - 230.111 Ben Meiselas

Well, as you know, Garrett, this question has been raised with the president. I have also addressed the dinner tonight. The president is attending it in his personal time. It is not a White House dinner. It's not taking place here at the White House. But certainly I can raise that question and try to get you an answer for it.

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230.171 - 234.154 Garrett Haake

OK. And on the Qatari aircraft, the Air Force has said they're going to classify.

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235.199 - 255.386 Ben Meiselas

Let's bring in Molly Jungfest, friend of the Midas Touch Network. And Molly actually gave the introduction to the Webby Award that we won. It was a beautiful introduction. Thank you, Molly. Molly, you've been a writer. You've been covering different administrations. What I just showed you, let them eat cake. Let them eat cake.

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256.4 - 281.568 Molly Jong-Fast

You know, what's so interesting about this administration is at every point, they're sort of rediscovering government, like they're learning how government works. You know, Judge Pirro, Judge Jeanine, Judge Box of Wine, as she's called, she has this, you know, here she is, you know, learning about government. It's not fancy, right? There is money that's spent for foreign aid.

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281.648 - 298.702 Molly Jong-Fast

I mean, I thought that was bizarre, very specious, you know, that somehow millions of dollars of foreign aid should be sort of spent on government workers. And the funny thing that government workers' offices, what I think is the funniest part of this whole thing is that

299.603 - 323.758 Molly Jong-Fast

These people actually they do, in fact, like they made this whole case to their people that somehow government workers were making all this money and government was filled with fraud, waste and abuse. And here is Judge Pirro going like, oh, actually, there's not even bottled water here. So it turns out the federal government is not as fancy as a Fox News green room.

325.27 - 350.228 Ben Meiselas

you talk about the people who are going to be hit the hardest from this budget bill or frankly, everything that Trump does, you know, the, the people who feel we all are feeling pain, but it's often people, even in the red States though, who are dependent on Medicaid, who are dependent on food stamps, who are dependent, not to say it's just unique to that. But if you look at it yet, uh,

351.704 - 372.058 Ben Meiselas

The propaganda, whether it's the racism, the propaganda, the hate, you know, the lies seem to still kind of permeate. Don't get me wrong. We're seeing polls right now showing that Donald Trump's the least popular at this point in presidential history, but still his support, depending on poll to poll, is 37 percent to 42 percent.

372.318 - 375.28 Ben Meiselas

That's still a lot of millions of people who are suffering who vote for this guy.

Chapter 7: How is the GOP handling healthcare criticism?

578.672 - 600.628 Molly Jong-Fast

And it's foreign investors saying, like, is the U.S. credit good or bad? Do we even really want to be in this thing? And the bond market is freaked out by this as well. It should be because this is a budget of sort of. It's just a very, you know, it shows a certain lack of responsibility that the Republican Party doesn't they are not worried about the deficit.

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600.668 - 605.095 Molly Jong-Fast

And they're also not worried about serving children, which these are two things they should be worried about.

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606.095 - 626.049 Ben Meiselas

A lack of responsibility is Trump being Trumpy, right? You go back and just look at everything this guy's done in his life. When he went into Atlantic City with daddy's money, three casinos he bought right next to each other, and everybody's saying, the amount of debt you're taking on with three of your own casinos that are going to compete against each other.

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626.41 - 642.465 Ben Meiselas

You're going to cannibalize your own casinos. So you may have this flashy opening with Michael Jackson and fake gold plated this. You're going to bankrupt it. What does Trump do? Threatens the whistleblowers. They get fired. They sue him. He settled at least with one big prominent case.

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642.885 - 664.756 Ben Meiselas

the atlantic city casinos go bankrupt over and over again he makes money but the contractors there and the workers uh lost their life savings in atlantic city was destroyed we see this with a lot of his endeavors and now he's doing this with the united states of america now one of the things that i've talked about to combat all of this is i try to say

665.396 - 682.652 Ben Meiselas

let's not get too political and let's focus on the people. I said, politics has a way of gamifying humanity and people. And sometimes you just have to listen and hear the life stories of just what people are going through. And every dot comma period period,

683.624 - 708.459 Ben Meiselas

red line of a budget bill is actually impacting families and all families have stories to tell you know which is why i find it interesting also that you know your latest book is a personal memoir it's a daughter's memoir where you at this moment want to tell a story about just your own family um you call it how to lose your mother a daughter's memoir it's a great book and i just think that um what's important about this is that

709.279 - 738.419 Ben Meiselas

we have to always reflect on, we all have unique and interesting family dynamics with complexities and drama and love and all of these issues. And not to use a cliche, but nothing gold can stay. We're all here for a fleeting moment of time with our families and we just want what's best for them as we struggle through complex worlds. So I wonder if you wrote this book also now because of,

739.259 - 747.403 Ben Meiselas

kind of the uncertainty? I guess I should just ask you rather than telling my hypothesis for why you write it. Why now for a book like this?

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