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The MeidasTouch Podcast

Gov. Wes Moore on Trump's Economic Chaos

Thu, 20 Mar 2025

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell delivering a bleak economic outlook due to Trump’s mishandling of the economy. Meiselas also interviews Maryland Governor Wes Moore on how he has successfully guided Maryland through challenging times for America. For more content, visit MeidasPlus.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: How is Trump's economic policy affecting inflation?

0.209 - 12.617 Jerome Powell

I do think with the arrival of the tariff inflation, further progress may be delayed. The SEP doesn't really show further downward progress on inflation this year, and that's really due to the tariffs coming in.

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13.057 - 34.882 Ben Meiselas

That was the announcement by the chairman of the Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell, saying that because of the Trump tariff stuff, and all of the Trump economic kind of disaster. They wanted to cut interest rates, but they just don't see inflation coming down. Governor, I want to chat with you about what you're doing in your state because you actually got a good report in Maryland.

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34.942 - 53.874 Ben Meiselas

Governor Westmore, you're governor of Maryland. Governor, I want to play one more clip from you for what went down today at this press conference with the chairman of the Federal Reserve, Powell. They are lowering their projections now on what the GDP growth was supposed to be. It was supposed to soar. And here's what's happening right now. Let's play.

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Chapter 2: What did Jerome Powell announce about the GDP projections?

54.094 - 66.975 Jerome Powell

In our summary of economic projections, the median participant projects GDP to rise 1.7 percent this year, somewhat lower than projected in December. and to rise a bit below 2% over the next two years.

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67.675 - 87.108 Ben Meiselas

It's somewhat lower, but it's significantly lower than if Trump just put this on overdrive, let the economy just kind of rock and roll and not interfere with it every day. I want to talk about what you're doing in your state, but first let's just get your reaction to Trump's policies. It almost feels like you have to fight against this tide right now.

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87.268 - 109.483 Governor Josh Shapiro

Yeah, the only certainty we've gotten from this new administration is uncertainty. Right. And I think people are just looking for basic predictability. They're just like, tell me what the situation is and we can find ways to adapt and to adjust on it. But when it changes every day and when you are using tools like tariffs, which are tools and using it as an ideology.

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Chapter 3: How is Governor Wes Moore guiding Maryland through economic challenges?

109.963 - 128.692 Governor Josh Shapiro

the way this administration does and changing numbers every day. And I mean, that leads to a level of uncertainty that I think drives not just markets crazy, but drives all business influence crazy. I mean, the thing that we are trying to do in our state is we have really been focusing on focusing on economic growth.

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129.492 - 147.604 Governor Josh Shapiro

on giving certainty to industries because that can lead to greater levels of employment, it leads to greater levels of economic growth, and also it allows us to diversify our economy off of Washington. And if you're looking at what's happening in the state of Maryland, it's actually working, even contrary to the headwinds that we're getting from Washington.

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148.064 - 163.289 Governor Josh Shapiro

where we just announced, if you look at the most recent job numbers, we have now added more jobs in Maryland over the past two years since I've been the governor than the previous administration and the previous governor got during eight years, during two terms. Right.

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163.529 - 178.752 Governor Josh Shapiro

So our focus on things like investing in child care, our focusing on things like investing in apprenticeship programs and trade programs, our focus on the service year option, which is getting more young people into the workforce. Like these things are actually working to drive growth, particularly private sector growth.

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Chapter 4: What are the impacts of Trump's tariffs on Maryland?

179.212 - 190.915 Governor Josh Shapiro

But it is without a shadow of a doubt, the kind of craziness that we have seen from this new administration is definitely making it harder for our nation's chief executives and not easier at all.

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191.075 - 213.7 Ben Meiselas

You know, and now what's he saying that he goes, April 2nd is going to be Liberation Day. He says Liberation Day. And this is for real what they're saying. They say they're going to give every country is going to get an envelope. But I'm not making this up. And in the envelope, it's going to have. their tariff number on it. And so like a game show, right? For real.

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213.72 - 232.81 Ben Meiselas

And then the countries are going to open it up. He goes, not April 1st because that's April Fool's Day, April 2nd. And then depending on how the countries treat Donald Trump from now until then, they get a number and that's what their tariff is. And then we make a whole kind of show of it. And to your point, it's just like, why? Why? Why?

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233.991 - 257.025 Governor Josh Shapiro

For what? This is not a game. And you're playing with people's lives. And I think about where our largest trade partner is Canada, for example. We've got $3 billion of exports that we do with Canada every single year. This past weekend, I was speaking with a Canadian ambassador and almost doing essentially my own independent diplomacy.

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257.825 - 277.36 Governor Josh Shapiro

With our trade partner, because that level of diplomacy coming from the federal government is now non-existent and it's now almost playful. This is serious stuff because this is impacting our businesses, which turns around and impacts our neighborhoods, which turn around and impact our families, which turn around and impact our children. This is not a game.

Chapter 5: How is Maryland's relationship with Canada affected by U.S. policies?

277.941 - 295.189 Governor Josh Shapiro

And the really frustrating thing about it for me is we have people who are in very serious positions who are not serious people. And this has very real consequences on the states that we run and in the communities that we are vowed to protect and that we will protect.

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295.349 - 310.561 Ben Meiselas

Tell me what you can about that conversation with your Canadian counterpart or with the Canadian ambassador who you were speaking to. Because as Donald Trump keeps on talking about annexing the country, which, by the way, they're taking that not just as a joke.

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311.041 - 335.264 Ben Meiselas

And not just as a trade war, like their view in that, what they've told me is as like words of actual war on the sovereignty of the country. And we got headlines like this. Canadian airline cancels flights to Tennessee and other U.S. routes. I've seen some reports that travel is down as much as 50 to 60%. You know, I saw some reports, 85 percent leisure travel down.

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335.624 - 343.569 Ben Meiselas

First, I guess, what are you seeing in your state regarding that Canadian boycott and what were you hearing from that ambassador that you spoke to?

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343.709 - 362.342 Governor Josh Shapiro

Well, a lot of what we're seeing is you're seeing some of the direct impacts on things like the port of Baltimore. which is one of our nation's largest ports. And also you're seeing how trade, where the Port of Baltimore really serves as a real vessel for larger trade all across the country, which has been directly impacted.

362.682 - 378.844 Governor Josh Shapiro

But who we're also hearing it from is things like chicken farmers on the Eastern Shore. who rely on trade from Canada and Mexico, and both import and export. We're also hearing it from people who are like developers who are working on housing.

379.004 - 395.035 Governor Josh Shapiro

I'm very aggressive when it comes to the opportunities to create more housing inventory, because I believe that creating more housing inventory will also drive down housing costs. And so we've been very aggressive on things like transit oriented development and density bonuses and creating incentives for more housing.

395.355 - 417.57 Governor Josh Shapiro

But when materials are more expensive now because of these arbitrary trade wars we're putting on board, it makes it more complicated for our developers to be able to predict what becomes the cost that we're going to have for our trade. And so the thing that we're just continuing to lean on our partners and our international partners is basically showing them that here you have consistency.

417.93 - 430.299 Governor Josh Shapiro

Here you have a measure of soberness in the way that we think about the work. And here you have people who are going to put together policies that actually defend our people and not policies that end up actually impacting and hurting

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