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Chapter 1: What is the current political and social climate discussed in the episode?
So that right there was MAGA Republican Congress member Brian Mast at a town hall that he held in, get this, Jupiter, Florida, red area, MAGA Republican Congress member. And those people weren't paid to be there. They were booing because they recognize that the tariff policies by Donald Trump, like most of the policies by this Trump regime themselves, have been just bad for the people.
Set politics aside. These are bad policies. As I saw Claude Taylor post this morning, I just hate the United States being the bad guys. We're better than this. You see these posts of these migrants who are being sent to these camps in El Salvador. Andrew Romero, a gay makeup artist sent to El Salvador, sobbing and praying as guards shave his head.
Chapter 2: How are Trump's policies affecting American citizens?
And the United States government is making videos gloating over the people suffering. And, you know, when you go back to to Trump speeches, we tried to point this out as well during the campaign campaign. You know, when Donald Trump would continually echo the types of language that we heard from authoritarian leaders of the past. I mean, take a look at this video that we did.
Here's Trump echoing what sounded like Adolf Hitler during his rally during the campaign. Play this clip.
Chapter 3: What are the dangers of authoritarian language and actions in politics?
Today, especially in honor of our great veterans on Veterans Day. We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections and will do anything possible.
They'll do anything, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America and to destroy the American dream.
Legally or illegally, when they do things legally, you're going to do. I mean, he was saying that during the campaign. I mean, now you're seeing right wing papers like the New York Post say, Mr. Trump, save my business. Small companies plead, plead for relief from crushing tariff costs. We see this Trump. This is from a right wing writer, Rich Lowry.
who would post things during the election, like Joe Biden will never be normal again. And on August 26th, 2024, this guy wrote, Trump can win on character. This right-wing writer goes, Trump will destroy a world economy that has us at the apex and only getting stronger. We see Trump denying FEMA aid in North Carolina from Hurricane Helene. He did the same thing in Georgia. Farmers are suffering.
You get it. There's a lot of suffering taking place. So I want to do this differently right now because we all know the suffering taking place. I want to talk about... the mindset right now, though, about moving outside of this pain and suffering and resisting in a mindful way. Let's bring in Deepak Chopra right here. Deepak, they used to be bringing in politicians. You're not a politician.
You're not a political guy. But you're someone who certainly doesn't like to see people suffering. That's not a political thing. So, you know, just just People who are going through this, what are you seeing right now? What's your guidance to people?
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Chapter 4: How does Deepak Chopra view human suffering and empathy?
Well, first of all, thanks for acknowledging that I'm not a political guy, even though I've had and continue to have political opinions. And I am enormously affected by the suffering that's happening. And I have great empathy for people who are suffering. Empathy simply means you feel what they feel.
And when you feel what they feel, and empathy is a natural human response to suffering, every child reacts viscerally. Even if you hurt an animal, you hurt a pet dog or a cat, and the child will start to cry because it feels viscerally. the suffering of the other.
And that suffering leads to compassion, which is the desire to alleviate that suffering, because when you alleviate the suffering of another person, you feel better. And then that compassion ultimately leads to love and kindness and joy and peace and equanimity. and healing for yourself and for the other. So that's been my life's goal, I would say mission, pursuit, whatever you can.
Now, having said that, looking at the current situation in the world and in America, but also in the world, and having, you know, I'm 78 years old now, plus, how old are you, by the way? I am 39. Okay, so when I was 39, I was actually even ahead of where you are now. So when I came to this country, I was 22. I'm now 78. So, you know, I came to the United States when I was 22 in 1970.
In the midst of Watergate, in the midst of the women's movement, in the midst of Greenpeace, in the midst of the anti-Vietnam War. And I participated in all of that. You know, I was the most ardent activist there.
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Chapter 5: What historical context does Deepak Chopra provide about activism and societal change?
at the age of 22 23 and i marched the streets of cambridge massachusetts i campaigned for governor dukakis the only state he won was in massachusetts and he lost in every other state and i went through all that where you are angry activism But I used to talk to my dad and my dad was a very well-known cardiologist from England before he came back to India. And he used to talk about the Holocaust.
He used to talk about the Second World War. He used to talk about the immense suffering that was happening. My grandfather used to talk about World War One, the pandemic, the Great Depression. And so I realized this is part of humanity. We have not moved from being medieval minds. And now we have modern capacities. Our minds are still medieval, which means driven by fear, greed,
The need for relevance, power, influence peddling, corruption, cronyism, and money. And it hasn't changed. But what has changed is modern capacities. We have nuclear weapons. We have biological warfare. We have internet cyber warfare. The Houthis have the same capacities, almost, as we have. And soon everybody will have. So those medieval...
Chapter 6: What is Deepak Chopra's perspective on the modern world's risks and human mindset?
emotional and lack of spiritual development, coupled with modern capacities for destruction, we are sleepwalking to extinction. And that's a fact. We can't deny it. Either we jumpstart into a new mindset, be the change we want to see in the world, Or we can walk to extinction. We're now told there are 2 trillion galaxies, 706 trillion stars, uncountable trillions of planets.
Our planet is not even a grain of sand in all the beaches of the world. So maybe nature might say to itself, the human species was an interesting experiment in evolution. Didn't work. Let's try something else. Dinosaurs were wiped out. We emerged and we might get wiped out. Something maybe better will emerge. I don't know.
Well, let's see if something better will emerge. You know, it's interesting because when we built this network, we actually didn't build the Midas Touch Network on politics, which is a surprise for a lot of people. We built it on values and principles. And in the hierarchy of values and principles, empathy, respect, equality, decency, compassion was number one.
My philosophy was always, if you start from there, the
politics then fall in place because you go who's fighting more for those things and who's fighting against those things and people can decide so when people see my perspectives they'll go well you seem to be supporting certain types of candidates and i go well because they seem to be the most aligned with the hierarchy of values that this network stands for versus us kind of chasing politicians so so look
You've had an incredible career. I mean, 95 books that you've written. Time magazine named you one of the top 100 influencers over the past century. Your latest book, Digital Dharma, analyzing how AI can actually revolutionize spirituality and vice versa. Yeah. Tell us for people, though, who are struggling in this moment right now, who are scared. What do you suggest people do?
I mean, it's rare that they get to ask Deepak Chopra, what should I do right now? I'm scared. I'm nervous. You know, I don't know what this guy is going to post on any given day and if that's going to impact me. What do I do in my day? It's a big existential question, but what do I do?
So, you know, I'm a fan of your show. I enjoy your show. I enjoy your perspective. And I share your values. Now, having said that... does activism, particularly strident activism, or what I should say, angry activism, even for peace. It's kind of a contradiction, angry peace activists, and they end up getting Nobel prizes.
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Chapter 7: How does the MeidasTouch Network approach politics and values?
The angry peace activists end up getting Nobel prizes for peace, and they are totally not at peace with themselves. So I question whether that kind of activism actually works. And I'm not sure. It does to some extent. I mean, had we not had the anti-Vietnam war movement, the peace movement, the green movement and all of that,
we would not be in the place we are now, notwithstanding all the, you know, the backward trend we've taken recently. So it does work. It does bring more awareness. But in the long term, for those who are listening, I'm not at peace. Okay. And I will share with them this very simple idea that you will never be at peace if you are
Chapter 8: What advice does Deepak Chopra give for individuals feeling scared and uncertain today?
if you're wedded to your ideology as the only right thing, because we are all part of a conditioned mind and we're conditioned by religion, we are conditioned by politics, we're conditioned by our parents, we are conditioned by economics, we are conditioned by our tribe, and it's very difficult to get past that conditioning to a creative solution. I don't even like, The phrase, how do we fight?
Because, you know, that's another phrase that's very common in our society. The fight against war, the war against war, the war against cancer, the war against, you know, whatever. It's always a war, Star Wars now. Why don't we fight?
engage in creative solutions and that's why today i think we have an opportunity and that's why i'm such a big fan of what we call artificial intelligence so actually i as you just mentioned the book ai for spiritual intelligence
and personal well-being i frequently go and use ai which has access to all the creativity of humanity in fact ai has more access to the knowledge and database and information and even wisdom of the ages than any single human being can ever access so why not access
our current technologies for creative solutions instead of saying we have to fight this what is a creative solution for gaza what is a creative solution for climate change what is a creative solution for social economic justice i believe that if we are creative as a collective with shared vision
Maximum diversity, I know diversity is not a good word these days, but shared vision, maximum diversity, ethnic diversity, racial diversity, gender diversity, diversity of talent, diversity of storytellers. And then if we complement each other's strengths and we create a spiritual or emotional connection with each other, we can solve any problem.
And it's always been my dream to see a world that is more peaceful, more just, more sustainable, and more healthy and more joyful. And I think we have creative solutions for all of that. But the problem is that those that we call leaders in the world today, without naming any names, but those that we call leaders in the world are basically interested in their power and cronyism and
and influence peddling and enrichment monetarily. So you want to know what's going on, follow the money. There's a war going on. Lots of people are going to make money. You know, climate change, the only reason we are against it is there are special interest groups that are making money without addressing
uh these big issues so without taking sides and i know i you know ideologically i'm on your side but i think we need creative solutions and conversations like this can help us say how can i participate in a creative solution that with me being the change that I want to see in the world. If I want peace, how can I be peaceful?
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