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1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

11 Feb 2025

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Psychiatrist Dr. Alok Kanojia discusses the hidden psychology of modern tech addiction and shares evidence-based strategies for breaking free! What We Discuss with Dr. Alok Kanojia: Digital addiction, particularly to pornography, has reached unprecedented levels (49-75% self-reported addiction rates), largely due to technology's ability to hijack multiple brain circuits simultaneously. Trauma creates hypervigilance through the brain's survival mechanisms, which weigh negative experiences more heavily than positive ones. This explains why one bad experience can override many good ones. Mental illness is increasing partly due to better diagnosis, but also because modern technology and social media distort our sense of self and relationship with reality, particularly through filtered images and curated content. Traditional therapy approaches may not work for everyone, especially men, as the field has inherent biases toward verbal processing. Alternative approaches like exercise, body-focused work, or other methodologies can be equally effective. You can rewire your brain and change who you are by first accepting your authentic self and desires, then building positive habits around them. Start by asking "Do I wish I were someone who wanted to change?" rather than forcing change through willpower alone. Small, consistent steps toward your genuine goals lead to lasting transformation. And much more... Full show notes and resources can be found here: jordanharbinger.com/1114 And if you're still game to support us, please leave a review here — even one sentence helps! Consider including your Twitter handle so we can thank you personally! This Episode Is Brought To You By Our Fine Sponsors: jordanharbinger.com/deals Sign up for Six-Minute Networking — our free networking and relationship development mini course — at jordanharbinger.com/course! Subscribe to our once-a-week Wee Bit Wiser newsletter today and start filling your Wednesdays with wisdom! Do you even Reddit, bro? Join us at r/JordanHarbinger!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0.149 - 16.438 Dr. Alok Kanojia

Coming up next on The Jordan Harbinger Show. A lot of people think that by avoiding things, okay, I'm feeling anxious. Let me do something to make myself less anxious. When you feel that negative fear and anxiety and you engage in an avoidance strategy, you're actually strengthening the anxiety's control over you.

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21.004 - 32.566 Jordan Harbinger

Welcome to the show. I'm Jordan Harbinger. On the Jordan Harbinger Show, we decode the stories, secrets, and skills of the world's most fascinating people and turn their wisdom into practical advice that you can use to impact your own life and those around you.

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33.027 - 50.611 Jordan Harbinger

Our mission is to help you become a better informed, more critical thinker through long-form conversations with a variety of amazing folks, from spies to CEOs, athletes, authors, thinkers, performers, even the occasional extreme athlete, Emmy-nominated comedian, hacker, pirate, or special operator. Apparently they're still pirates. Or search for us in your Spotify app to get started.

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74.713 - 95.667 Jordan Harbinger

Today, back by popular demand, Dr. Allo Kunoja is here for round two. We dive into trauma and our response to trauma. Something called OnlyFans addiction, which honestly I did not know was a real thing, and it's crazier than you'd think. Also, porn addiction, ADHD, therapy and psychedelics, and more. Dr. K was a huge hit last time. I really enjoyed my conversation with him.

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95.887 - 115.007 Jordan Harbinger

So here we go, round two with Dr. Allo Kunoja. I got to get my energy going, man. It's one of those mornings where I'm just like under caffeinated slash I have a thousand unread emails because I just got back from a trip and I'm like vibrating with. It's not actual anxiety because it's not like there's anything actually going on.

115.147 - 123.816 Jordan Harbinger

It's anxiety that feels real, but is ridiculous because half of that email is like, I'd like to pitch this financial planner for your show. And it's like delete. But it still feels real.

124.901 - 146.09 Dr. Alok Kanojia

Yes. It's a great point. We restrict our definition of anxiety quite a bit. Yeah. So we think that I'm not allowed to feel anxious unless I'm afraid of something. Yes. But what I'm hearing is that certain parts of your brain, like especially your frontal lobes, recognize that there is a lot of work that needs to be done and is starting to think through.

146.11 - 155.655 Dr. Alok Kanojia

It's sort of like mentally loading responsibility. Yes. which is not exactly anxiety, but I think a lot of the circuits are the same or the experience of it is the same.

155.975 - 173.327 Jordan Harbinger

It is. Everybody in the developed world has this feeling. They call it the Sunday scaries. Have you heard of this? Yeah. For people who don't know what this is, Sunday night comes around and you're like, oh, I got work on Monday. Oh, the Turner account. The boss is going to, oh, we have that meeting. I've got to like make sure my... PowerPoint slides are good. I got to do that at 8 a.m.

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