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The Jordan Harbinger Show

1105: DNA | Skeptical Sunday

19 Jan 2025

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From criminal cases to designer babies, DNA is reshaping humanity's future. Michael Regilio unravels this double helix of discovery on Skeptical Sunday! Welcome to Skeptical Sunday, a special edition of The Jordan Harbinger Show where Jordan and a guest break down a topic that you may have never thought about, open things up, and debunk common misconceptions. This time around, we’re joined by skeptic, comedian, and podcaster Michael Regilio! On This Week's Skeptical Sunday, We Discuss: DNA is simultaneously microscopic and massive in scale — while coiled up tightly in each cell's nucleus, if you unraveled all the DNA in a single human body and laid it end-to-end, it would stretch to the sun not once, but 600 times! This mind-bending fact perfectly illustrates how we're all walking around with an astronomical amount of genetic information packed into our cells. The ethical implications of DNA databases are more complex than a double helix — even if you never take a genetic test yourself, your relatives' DNA decisions can expose your genetic information. It's like playing genetic poker where someone else can accidentally show your hand. This raises serious concerns about privacy, insurance discrimination, and how genetic information could be weaponized by bad actors. CRISPR technology has opened Pandora's genetic toolbox — while it offers incredible potential for treating diseases like sickle cell anemia, it also enables the possibility of "designer babies" and genetic enhancements that could create new forms of social inequality. We're essentially writing code for humans now, but without a clear user manual for the consequences. DNA evidence has revolutionized criminal justice — but it took decades to establish proper standards and protocols. From its first use in catching Colin Pitchfork (whose villainous name seems almost too on-the-nose) to modern genetic genealogy solving cold cases, DNA has become the ultimate witness that never forgets and never lies. Understanding and working with DNA is becoming increasingly accessible and beneficial — from personalized medicine to ancestry exploration to crop improvements, we all have opportunities to engage with and benefit from DNA science. By staying informed about genetic advances while thoughtfully considering their implications, we can help shape a future where this powerful technology serves humanity's best interests rather than our darker impulses. Connect with Jordan on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube. If you have something you'd like us to tackle here on Skeptical Sunday, drop Jordan a line at [email protected] and let him know! Connect with Michael Regilio at Twitter, Instagram, and  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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3.621 - 19.372 Jordan Harbinger

Welcome to Skeptical Sunday. I'm your host, Jordan Harbinger. Today I'm here with Skeptical Sunday co-host Michael Regilio. On the Jordan Harbinger Show, we decode the stories, secrets, and skills of the world's most fascinating people and turn their wisdom into practical advice that you can use to impact your own life and those around you.

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19.552 - 30.36 Jordan Harbinger

Our mission is to help you become a better informed, more critical thinker. And during the week, we have long-form conversations with a variety of amazing folks from spies to CEOs, athletes, authors, thinkers, and performers.

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30.74 - 45.671 Jordan Harbinger

On Sundays, though, we do Skeptical Sunday, where a rotating guest co-host and I break down a topic you may have never thought about and debunk common misconceptions about that topic. Topics such as fast fashion, weddings, the death industry, homeopathy, hypnosis, diet pills, and more.

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45.951 - 61.321 Jordan Harbinger

And if you're new to the show or you want to tell your friends about the show, I suggest our episode starter packs. These are collections of our favorite episodes on persuasion, negotiation, disinformation, psychology, cyber warfare, crime and cults, and more. That'll help new listeners get a taste of everything we do here on the show, or almost everything.

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61.781 - 73.825 Jordan Harbinger

Just visit jordanharbinger.com slash start, or search for us in your Spotify app to get started. Today, DNA and genes are everywhere, both figuratively and literally. Get your mind out of the gutter, folks.

74.206 - 89.483 Jordan Harbinger

Not only are they the building blocks of every living thing, but they also hold the secrets to our ancestry, unlock the mysteries of unsolved crimes, and help doctors predict and treat potential health conditions. Even Maury Povich famously used DNA to determine if somebody is or is not the father.

90.004 - 91.709 Michael Regilio

You are not the father.

94.107 - 116.355 Jordan Harbinger

But as technology advances, we're now capable of manipulating DNA, raising profound questions about what it means to be human. Are we on the brink of a beautiful new age or stepping into a dystopian sci-fi nightmare? To help us navigate this microscopic landscape, skeptic Michael Rogelio is here to help us unravel the double helix of ethical dilemmas and excitement around DNA. Hey, Jordan.

116.375 - 135.127 Michael Regilio

If I may lay a quick compliment on you, you seem quite healthy and smart. Thank you. I do what I can. Sure, it's important to stay fit and sharp, but the fact of the matter is you had little to do with being healthy and smart. In fact, you had no say in the matter at all. You were predetermined to be those things. You just made the most of it.

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