The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
550. Broken, Blacklisted, and Saved by Comedy | Tyler Fischer
Mon, 26 May 2025
Actor and comedian Tyler Fischer joins Dr. Jordan B. Peterson to unpack a wild, raw, and brutally honest life story—from drinking at age ten to getting banned from Gutfeld and blacklisted by Hollywood. They dive deep into family trauma, addiction, therapy, racism in casting, and finding success amidst broken systems. Tyler and Jordan reflect on Kill Tony, the uncanny impersonation Joe Rogan forbade, and what it really means to go all in on a dream. Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacy This episode was filmed on May 14th, 2025. | Links | For Tyler Fischer: See Tyler on tour! https://www.tylerfischer.com/tickets On YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@tythefisch/videos On X https://x.com/TyTheFisch
Chapter 1: What was Tyler Fischer's upbringing like?
I will, but I'm not going to Russell Brand you.
Manipulation of the condensation of the retriculation of the mastication of the masturbation. You know, and that's what I think about oat milk. How many impressions can you do?
Upwards of 50. By the way, I love RFK Jr., but I said, why does every woman under 30 sound like RFK Jr.?
And then I started doing this whole thing about, you know, this is how women sound in bed. You know, I want you to joke me. Yeah.
Hello, everybody. So, a lighter podcast today, given that I'm speaking with a comedian, Tyler Fisher. Tyler's in the midst of a lengthy multi-city tour. He's got 100 venues lined up before the end of the year, before the end of 2025, and It's light, of course, because it's comedy, but there's a dark edge to it too, and that's also not so uncommon in comedy.
And the dark edge is, ah, he's probably one of the most well-cancelled comedians that are still staggering around, so to speak, today. And we delve into that, and we also investigated the relationship between acting, entertaining, being truthful... and being genuine.
Tyler told me that when he was a kid, he used his acting ability, his comedic ability, as a defense in a way, as a mode of coping, and that it wasn't until he was in his 30s that a more genuine approach to his thoughts melded with his acting ability.
So we delved into that, his familial background, the trouble he encountered as a kid, his encounter over a decade or more with cancel culture, his acting career, and then his reemergence, really, on the comedic stage. prior to the tour that is going on now until the end of 2025. So join us for that. So I think you deserve all this attention. Three cameras, like 10 people, all focused on you.
This is for you, come on. Though I did wear this.
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Chapter 2: How did Tyler Fischer's career in comedy begin?
Sure. I stole this from Gap Kids. I was very tiny, and I was hanging out with kids four or five years older than me. And parents would- You could fit into places they couldn't go? They would send me over the counter and into a little, there'd be a little space in a car window and I would slip through and come out with the disc man and all that stuff.
And so that's how I started getting attention was doing these pretty extreme kind of, but somewhat funny behaviors. And all these kids loved it. And my parents had just gone through a divorce. So I was probably seeking, you know, some father trouble and maybe a father figure as well. Yeah. I'm a good dad, but, you know, divorce is messy.
And you're the first person I heard probably really criticize it properly. Which divorce? Yeah. I've never heard anyone say that before. Tell me what you remember. From what you said? Yeah. You said maybe not that it should be banned, but that it should be very rarely used.
Just like abortion.
Just like abortion.
Safe, legal, and rare. Yeah, that reminds me. I guess the Democrats kind of mucked up on the rare side, eh? I don't fancy that. Well, with.
Yeah, with the abortion, their time is limited because look what's happening. Most, they're pro-abortion. They love getting rid of those kids. If they do have kids, they're chopping their genitals off. Now they're blowing each other's Teslas up. They can't even make it to the abortion clinic. So I tell the conservatives, like, just give it 10 years.
Just quiet down and sit back and they'll, you know, they're killing themselves.
So what's it like being a, are you a conservative comic? Is that a reasonable thing to say no?
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Chapter 3: What challenges did Tyler face with addiction?
It is definitely a rocket ship version of success compared to when I started. There was no viral clips. You had to spend 10 years in basements in New York City just getting brutalized. But imagine Kill Tony, but in a basement with six or seven comedians, no real audience. And we beat the shit out of each other.
Right, so Kill Tony's probably no more brutal than it was before, and it's a lot faster.
It's just in front of the world, which is, to me, I feel fortunate that didn't happen to me. I had about 15 years of really getting dirty before any...
So tell me, how did your career start? So you said you were a terrible delinquent, and you were drinking when you were 10. Did you become an alcoholic?
Yeah, I'd say so. I mean, I was addicted to it, but luckily it didn't stick. I think finding performing, it set me free.
Oh, yeah. How come?
Well, I was failing out of high school, and I was friends with the acting teacher. And we would hang out.
Oh, yeah.
We would do drugs together. That's definitely hanging out with the acting teacher. Public school. And I thought, well, if I take his class, I'll pass. I needed the class. And so I went and I got on stage. So you were friends with him before you took the class?
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Chapter 4: How does Tyler view cancel culture?
Okay, so it was on from that to the art teacher.
Yeah, and getting on stage and it all just, people were laughing and I was doing impressions and voices, all of which I, me and my brothers, that was our coping mechanism as kids. So we would watch Saturday Night Live and we would watch comedy in South Park and, you know, that was our healing process.
So you had competitive humor with your brothers.
Yes, and very extreme, very physical, very extreme humor.
types a type of humor so so once that hit on stage he said you have to do this for your living okay so you you took the acting course in high school and then you went to Rhode Island went to Rhode Island how long were you there I was there for three years was it was it useful it was very useful okay tell me why what'd you do I had some teachers you know and again this was before
You know, the political correctness stuff got out of control.
What year?
The wokeness. This was 2005.
Right. I would have pegged you younger than 38, by the way. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I guess that's a compliment.
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Chapter 5: What role does humor play in Tyler's life?
Well, you have that long drawn out, you know, pause because again, we're not, We're not expecting the laugh. And so I saw you milk things, and maybe you didn't know the line was coming, but you got a couple huge pops in that theater.
Yeah, it's fun.
Yeah.
It's fun. It's great fun to manage that. Yeah, well, and the set is actually... The lecture has a comedic structure in a way because... the whole lecture, if it works right, has a punchline. That punchline isn't necessarily one that will elicit laughs, but that's also something that's extremely entertaining is to try to juggle a number of balls and then land them.
Well, that's what you do if you land a joke, and that's great. And then the audience is very appreciative of that, and the whole evening concludes in a satisfactory manner. You know, the weird thing is, the same thing often happens in a podcast.
You know, I've noticed that if you pay enough attention, which you always should do, by the way, I figured out this week that everything is a burning bush if you pay enough attention to it. That's what that story in the Old Testament means, is that if you get to the bottom of something by paying attention to it, you see God. That's right. That's right.
That's what happens with hallucinogens, is you get that experience. But if you pay enough attention to anything, it's capable of revealing everything. In any case, if you pay enough attention in a podcast, there'll be a natural narrative arc. And then there'll be a landing, you know, where the guest says something that really concludes things nicely.
And all that depends on is paying enough attention to. So that's fun to track.
And it's why you have to also get everything in your life straightened out the way you've encouraged people to, because you can't... you you can't uh have that type of focus if you have all of these other things yeah that's right so it's it's it's worth nearly killing yourself to do which yeah you know and that that's when i so how do you figure that out
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Chapter 6: How did Tyler cope with family trauma?
By the way, I was going to say everything you just said word for word. You were going to say that? And I scooped you?
You took it.
Yeah, literally, the whole thing.
But I'm going to let you have that. Well, you did allude to it, though, because you talked about something that happened to you when you found your mother. Okay, so what happened?
Well, what happened in that moment was, oh, I can't save anybody. That was it for me. My childhood was trying to please everybody and save everybody because it was such chaos in my house. So I used love and compassion and jokes and, you know, putting on show, you know, I would put on these shows. It was just, you know, my mom will die if I don't make her laugh. And who was it?
Eugene, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Who was that that played? Gene, Gene. Heyman? No, no.
Curly hair.
How do I not remember? Yeah, yeah. Wilder. Wilder. So we had a similar experience. His mom was sick. I think she had cancer. And the doctor said, if you don't make your mom, if she cries, she's going to die. Oh, that's a good thing too. And so my mom told me the same thing. She said, I'm gonna die. And here's the lock box and here's where all this stuff is.
She just sat me and my brothers and I said, I'm dying. She didn't say why or how. I said, was it a joke? Am I bombing over here? And so that was it. If she's not laughing, she's going to die. So that's how serious it was for me with humor and entertainment. And so when I saw her trying to take her life, She had walked into a lake and there was pills lined up on the edge of the lake.
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Chapter 7: What insights does Tyler share about political labels in comedy?
Mom's going to die. Friends are going to leave. I was dating a girl at the time who got back with her ex-boyfriend. And so I was flattened out. I mean, I barely made it through that. But that's when I started seeing your videos, and it was mind-blowing. I would see you say something, and it would just be explosive. And then I was gotten to therapy. So that forced me into therapy.
And it was a shitty therapist. She was a social worker.
Oh yeah, that's dangerous.
Oh, yeah. Yep, yep. However, and she saw everything through the lens of patriarchy. And I remember I said, my girlfriend cheated on me. She said, well, did she really cheat on? I mean, she really... You know, so that was, but it got me there, got me into therapy. And that was helpful? It was helpful to just be there and start vomiting stuff out. Yeah, right, right, right.
You know, you got to do it. It's going to come out. Yeah. And then she said, I think you should go to 12-step meetings. because I was with this girl who was cheating on me and I couldn't get away from her. And so I started going to all sorts of 12 step meetings. There was no specific thing.
Some people said it was, she said it might be love addiction or, you know, I went to the children of alcoholics meetings and I went there and I just listened. And I did this for two years. I locked myself in base because there was no other way out. I had to go into the fire. So what did you find compelling about these meetings?
If you go to those meetings, and I recommend it for anyone that has any addiction, and that could be a slew of things, you go and you listen to people and you're going to, you're just, bombs are going to go off because you're going to go, holy shit. That's what I thought. That's what I felt. And I started putting the pieces together.
Right, so you were seeing yourself reflected in these other people.
Yes, every meeting. And, you know, everyone's sitting there sobbing and at their absolute lowest. And this guy just lost his kids for having an affair. And this, you know, there was some for people that were grieving from deaths. So that helped with my mom's suicidal, you know, fits. But I slowly started... you know, listening and just putting my story together.
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Chapter 8: What has Tyler learned from his experiences in therapy?
So again, I watched you go through that and just hearing you say, no, I'm not budging, period. And that was my decision.
Well, you're going to break one way or another. Sure. You can maybe choose what you're going to break over. That's your choice. Yeah.
And so I decided I'm going to have my cake and I'm going to eat it too. I lost my Hollywood career. It's tough being at comedy clubs now because there's still quite a bit of... of tension from me putting my foot down with COVID, fighting the mandates, you know, couldn't perform at the comedy clubs. Right. So me putting my hand up, that was, that was shocking for a lot of people. Yeah.
I go out and I tour and I put my videos online.
Good, let's talk about your career. Okay, so now you mentioned that you started changing the way that you were approaching things when you realized that you couldn't interfere with your mother's destiny, so to speak, that you couldn't save her. You couldn't save her with your act, let's say. But you didn't stop acting. You didn't stop comedy. You said you started telling the truth more.
You started really saying what you... what you had to say, what did that do to your career?
Well, when I made the decision, I'm going to say what I want, when I want, not without consequence. You know, there's this area of, oh, these unfiltered comedians are just going and, you know, making millions of dollars and surrounded by strippers and stuff. No, you still, you know, if it doesn't work, the crowd isn't going to reward it.
Even if you're a conservative comedian with a conservative crowd, you don't get rewarded. But it's a freedom that is imperative for an artist. You know, you can't say to a painter, you can't use blue. There's no difference than that. Getting every painter going, you can't use the color blue anymore. It's offensive. And they would go, well, no, I have to. So you just make the decision.
I'm going to use blue. I'm going to say what I want. I'm going to make the jokes I want. You know, I mean, I'm banned.
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