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Quick talk. What a turn of events. This is absolutely incredible, Joe. Absolutely. A series of unexpected things have led to this day.
So you were supposed to do Duncan's podcast, and then Duncan and I got on the phone, and he was saying, you know, trying to move tickets for the psychedelic event. Yeah. And then Duncan said, you know, hey, man, you can have him on your show. And I said, well, why don't you come on, too? It would be really fun. Then this morning, Duncan has a root canal, like an unexpected emergency root canal.
So it was just a crazy turn of events, and fortunately, you're here.
Yeah, I just came in from Ukraine, actually.
Oh, wow.
Yeah. Ooh, what are we doing over there? Training therapists and psychiatrists. Wow. So Ukraine has enormous amounts of trauma. And so what I'm trying to do is to go to high trauma areas and try to talk about MDMA-assisted therapy and how that could be helpful.
What is the legality of it over there?
Wow.
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