Gary Brecka is a human biologist, biohacker, longevity expert, and host of the "Ultimate Human" podcast. www.theultimatehuman.com/ www.instagram.com/garybrecka/ This episode is brought to you by Visible. Live in the know with wireless that can keep up. One-line plans starting at $25/mo. Join now at visible.com/rogan. Save 20% off sitewide with code ROGAN at checkout http://meundies.com/rogan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: How did Gary Brecka get involved with Bobby Kennedy's movement?
I actually, you know what? I normally don't bring notes, but I was talking to Cali Means on the way over here. And, you know, we're really supporting Bobby Kennedy's whole Maha movement and trying to officially put a committee together to really give him some great talking points and then bring some of the big influencers together to help him message. You know, around the media.
And I was like, what are some of the wins that we've had in the last week that I don't know about? And so he just rattled them off and I just jotted them down. What are the wins? Well, I mean, you know, so Trump formed this strong kids commission. And if you remember when he first got into office, he actually by executive order, he authorized Bobby to.
to do a study with Health and Human Services to look into the genesis of chronic disease. Because nobody's talking about it at the National Institute of Health or National Library of Medicine or in our public health policy. Nobody's talking about what's causing this pandemic.
Gee, I wonder why they're not talking about it.
Well, I could give you a couple of clues.
You think money has anything to do with it? No way.
You're a conspiracy theorist, dude. You're down the rabbit hole.
That's my problem. You think that just because people get paid, they do things that are shady.
Yeah, I know. That's a weird thing to think. I should stop thinking that way.
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Chapter 2: Why are seed oils considered harmful?
We went over that and we found out that they're paid by Pepsi and by Coca-Cola. Wow. It's just so dark. Yeah. It's so crazy. It is. The American Heart Association gets money from Coca-Cola and Pepsi.
Yeah, you know, I checked into my Airbnb here in Austin, which, by the way, love Austin, man. I see why you came here. We covered it all on my podcast, so I won't go down that rabbit hole. But it truly is, man. People are amazing. Food is amazing. Went to this little restaurant called The Well, which I love, and they catered all my food. But there's like a serious wellness vibe here.
A lot of healthy people.
Yeah, a lot of healthy people. So I check into the Airbnb and I go into the closet, like the owner's closet wasn't locked. And I went into the owner's closet. Of course, it's like all Cheerios and cookies and crackers. And I pulled a couple of bottles of these seed oils out. And I did a little post about it because I was like, look at all the heart healthy labels on this. Right. And and.
We talked about seed oils last time, but it's, you know, and I get attacked a lot for it, for saying that these polyunsaturated fatty acids are bad for you. But a lot of times it's actually not the plant itself. It's the distance from the plant to the table.
Right. Can you explain, because you were explaining the other day to us the process that it takes to turn rapeseed oil, which is what canola is. First of all, it's called canola oil, Joe, if you know what I mean. They decided that rapeseed was problematic, so they changed it to canola oil. I always thought it was corn oil. Corn's good for you. Corn oil must be great for you.
Oh, we're using canola oil. Cool. Ah, peanuts. Please explain, though, the process, because it's so vile.
It's insane. So rapeseed, canola, is a plant. Essentially, you put it in a commercial press, and it will come out gummy. And so to degum it, you use something called hexane. And hexane, if you go to the National Institute of Health or National Library of Medicine, you'll see that that is a known neurotoxin. It's classified as a neurotoxin. Same as fluoride, right?
Which is actually fluorosilicic acid. We'll get to that later. But so we degum it with hexane. And then you take this degummed oil and you heat it to 405 degrees, which turns it rancid. I mean, there's no mechanism on earth for temperatures to reach that much, especially plants to encounter this kind of temperature. So Now it denatures, it turns rancid. So now it's putrefied and it smells.
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Chapter 3: Can regenerative farming replace industrial practices?
And the reason why that's important is I think that people don't realize that we are actually being isolated in plain sight. Right. I mean, we are trying to create connection through our phones. We're trying to create connection through social media. And these are not human connections. In fact, you know, if you look at the rates of depression, suicide, suicidal ideation, obesity.
chronic mental illness. And I think we actually have a chronic lack of mental fitness, not necessarily a mental illness crisis in this country. And if you look at the skyrocketing rates of these conditions and how they are creeping into younger and younger and younger generations, you've got nine-year-olds being treated for depression now. All right. So what's happening?
What's happening is isolation in plain sight. You know, we don't problem solve anymore. We don't have communities with our friends anymore. We actually don't build social connections. We've lost our connection to Mother Nature. You know, that's why I like going out to my place in Colorado. It's probably like you like bow hunting and just old school connection to Mother Nature.
And how freaking good do you feel?
Yeah, it's very, very good. I really wish I lived in nature. Yeah. I'd really like to be living in the woods again.
I'm working on it, man. You said you were trying to get something outside of town, like a ranch.
I think that's the move. Yeah, I think nature is a vitamin. I really do. I think it's a mental health vitamin. I think there's something about being in nature. There's a feeling you get, especially when your phone doesn't work, when you get out there and you look at your phone like zero bars.
Oh, yeah.
And you're out there in real woods. It's just like... you just feel better. You just feel like more tuned in. You hear birds and branches snapping and things going on, coyotes. And it's like, God damn, it feels good.
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Chapter 4: What is the role of hydrogen gas in health?
Maybe it's a sign of love. I don't know.
It's definitely pissed off. He doesn't love you. Somebody probably hunted one of his family. Take a sidearm. People do hunt squirrels. They eat them.
But in any case, man, I feel amazing. But you're right. At some point, we have the capacity to replace these oils. We actually have a way to get back away from industrial farming and get back to local farming. I have a very good friend named Alfie Oaks. And he owns one of the more profitable grocery stores in America. It's in Naples, Florida called Seed to Table.
And he took me out by helicopter one time and we hopped around to a bunch of his organic fields. He's got thousands of acres in the middle of the state of Florida. And he showed me how he's not only able to grow produce organically for less money than he would grow it if he had to use herbicides and pesticides and chemicals.
He's able to pick it at 9 o'clock in the morning and have it on the grocery store shelf by 2 o'clock in the afternoon. And I watched the whole process go down, thousands and thousands of these acres. And, you know, white flies are the pest flies they're trying to avoid. Instead of spraying for these white flies, what they do is they just use this reflective cellophane.
They run it down the rows of crops, and it creates this reflection. And it scatters them to the woods. And so now the white flies are not eating the crops. There's no herbicide. There's no pesticide sprayed on these. There's no preservatives. His team picks this stuff by 9 o'clock in the morning. It goes into a processing center. And by processing, I mean it gets washed. That's it.
And then it's on a truck and it's on the shelf by 2 o'clock in the afternoon. So you can grab a strawberry in this grocery store and eat it. And it was growing at 9 a.m. that morning. And there are mechanisms for us to do that. Yes, I get some stuff needs to be shipped and stored.
But most regenerative farming practices are not only green and good for the environment, they're economically feasible. They actually make economic sense. And, you know, when he talks about the fact that we've been spraying some of these fields for so many decades... With or so many years with these herbicides and insecticides that there is not a pest for, in some cases, hundreds of miles.
But we are still spraying for those pests. So you've got to start to question what the motivation is.
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Chapter 5: What is the debate around cholesterol and statins?
And very often, in order to do that, it needs to manufacture an antibody to this cell. If you look, for example, at Hashimoto's, which a lot of people have, these people have Hashimoto's and they're told, okay, well, You woke up one day and your immune system decided to attack the thyroid. You know, you're manufacturing antibodies to your thyroid. And so, well, why is it attacking my thyroid?
Well, we don't know. Let's look at your family history. Oh, your mom's sister had it and your dad's brother had it. Oh, you have familial Hashimoto's. Even though there is no gene... for Hashimoto's. So you couldn't have inherited it from your ancestor because it now runs in your family.
You're told that you have a genetically inherited disease and now you have to subscribe to a lifetime of medication instead of taking a step back and saying, well, what would have called my immune system to that site? Look at the incidence of heavy metal toxicity, mercury poisoning in Hashimoto's.
Look at the amount of lead and mercury poisoning in Hashimoto's because the thyroid has an affinity for heavy metals. And very often when they retreat into the thyroid, the immune system will chase them there. And look at the genesis of a lot of Crohn's disease.
I mean, a lot of Crohn's disease has to do with the disruption of the single cell layer in your gut that allows bacteria and other pathogenic contents that should stay inside your The luminal wall of your gut, they leak out and they're in an area that they don't belong and the immune system is attacking them there.
And then we want to hold the immune system responsible for the crime and say, hey, we're going to arrest the police officer for what this criminal did. I mean – Those contents are in areas of the body where they don't belong. And so we're going to put you on an immunosuppressant or we're going to put you on an anti-inflammatory.
And we're actually going to stop the immune system from protecting you. Instead of saying, what contents could be leaking from my gut that are causing the immune system to light up? And you could just keep going through lots of autoimmune diseases like this, you know, multiple sclerosis, a lot of these conditions. But mold, mycotoxins, metals, parasites, I mean...
If I was ever told that I had an autoimmune disease, I would not accept it until I'd done those kinds of tests.
Interesting. So back to the narrative of HDL and LDL, how did it get formed that LDL is the bad cholesterol?
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Chapter 6: How do mold and toxins affect health?
And why would you have 100% O2 chamber versus what you're talking about?
Those make sense in a supervised hospital environment with, you know, someone standing right outside the chamber the entire time. I've been in one one time in a place called BioAccelerator in Medellín, Colombia. And but the. The home use chambers where you get a prescription from your doctor and you actually get it, probably what you have. Is yours a soft shell?
No.
Chamber? It's a hard shell? Oh, okay. So that'll probably go to two atmospheres of pressure.
That's really good.
So Dr. Jason Saunders, who wrote the book Hyperbaric Medicine with Dr. Dimitri. We'll tell you there's a lot of benefits at low pressures, like 1.3 atmospheres, which you can get in a soft chamber. And there are a lot of benefits at higher pressures, like 2 atmospheres. So I never go above 2 atmospheres, twice the atmospheric pressure.
If you think about what's happening at twice the atmospheric pressure, you're taking the oxygen from the air, which is about 21% sea level, what we're breathing right now, and you're doubling that. Because you're doubling the pressure. So every 33 feet you go below sea level, you double the atmospheric pressure.
So when you get to two atmospheres of pressure, you're essentially taking in twice as much oxygen. The oxygen concentration hasn't increased, but the size of the gas has gotten smaller. So now you're perfusing tissues with oxygen that normally wouldn't be as perfused with oxygen. You can also put on the nasal cannulas and get 92%, 93% O2, but that's also not flammable.
If you took a nasal cannulas from an oxygen concentrator, like one that works for your EWOD or something, and you lit a lighter in front of it, that gas is not going to catch fire.
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Chapter 7: What misconceptions exist about autoimmune diseases?
Yeah, the body's going to send more blood flow, more amino acids, more oxygen to those muscles. It's going to pull inflammatory factors like creatinine, you know, the breakdown of muscle, the byproduct of muscle breakdown. It's going to pull that out. So why would you want to stop? How do you say it? It's creatinine? Creatinine.
Okay. Creatine is what you take for- Right, right, right. I never knew how to say that word, though. I've seen it.
Yeah, which is actually very good.
Creatinine. Yeah. Because I know there was a fighter that was actually pulled from a fight once because he had high creatinine levels.
Yeah, that's a kidney issue. It's actually a sign of rhabdomyolytis, right, of overtraining.
That makes sense because he was a psycho.
Yeah, you start to break down. So creatinine is a byproduct of muscle breakdown. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.
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