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The Headlines

Inside Trump’s Deportation Push, and the U.S. Holds Talks With Hamas

Thu, 6 Mar 2025

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Plus, Dolly Parton’s love story.On Today’s Episode:Frustration Grows Inside the White House Over Pace of Deportations, by Hamed Aleaziz and Zolan Kanno-YoungsTrump to Pause Auto Tariffs for One Month as Other Levies Continue, by Ana Swanson and Jack EwingSupreme Court Rejects Trump’s Bid to Freeze Foreign Aid, by Adam LiptakVeterans Are Caught Up in Trump’s and Musk’s Work Force Overhaul, by Eileen Sullivan and Maya C. MillerU.S. and Hamas Hold Direct Talks on Hostages in Gaza, Officials Say, by Adam Rasgon, Aaron Boxerman and Ronen BergmanWhy Some Schools Are Rethinking ‘College for All’, by Dana GoldsteinHow Dolly Parton’s Husband, Carl Dean, Inspired ‘Jolene’, by Mike IvesTune in every weekday morning. To get our full audio journalism and storytelling experience, download the New York Times Audio app — available to Times news subscribers on iOS — and sign up for our weekly newsletter.Tell us what you think at: [email protected]

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Chapter 1: What is today's main news coverage on The Headlines?

2.929 - 8.883 Tracy Mumford

From The New York Times, it's The Headlines. I'm Tracy Mumford. Today's Thursday, March 6th. Here's what we're covering.

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13.874 - 19.697 Vice President J.D. Vance

It turns out we didn't need new laws. We didn't need fancy legislation. We just needed a new president of the United States.

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Chapter 2: How is the Trump administration handling immigration and deportations?

20.558 - 39.868 Tracy Mumford

Vice President J.D. Vance was at the U.S.-Mexico border yesterday to highlight a drop in border crossings. The number of migrants apprehended at the border is now the lowest in more than two decades. But Vance was on the defensive about another part of the administration's hardline immigration policies, the rate of deportations.

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40.348 - 43.35 Vice President J.D. Vance

So let me say a few things about that. So first of all, Rome wasn't built in a day.

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44.048 - 54.733 Tracy Mumford

Trump campaigned on the promise of the largest deportation operation in U.S. history. But despite a spike in arrests, the U.S. government has been deporting fewer people than last year.

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54.753 - 63.437 Vice President J.D. Vance

I guarantee it is a part of the president's priorities. We'll keep on working on it. We've made a lot of progress, but we're going to keep on working on it over the remainder of the president's term.

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64.281 - 75.589 Zolan Kanno-Youngs

This lag in the pace of deportations has already caused concern, even frustration, among some of President Trump's top immigration advisors.

76.189 - 84.555 Tracy Mumford

My colleague Zolan Kano-Youngs has been reporting on how there's increasing pressure on Trump's immigration team to follow through on the president's campaign promises.

85.163 - 107.069 Zolan Kanno-Youngs

Our reporting has found that Tom Homan, the czar of this deportation effort, and Stephen Beller, the architect of Trump's immigration agenda, are meeting each morning, sometimes in their office in the White House, sometimes in the Situation Room, and are studying these numbers, deportations, detentions, trying to strategize on ways to ramp up these deportation numbers.

Chapter 3: What obstacles are slowing down deportations under Trump's presidency?

107.731 - 126.107 Tracy Mumford

Zolan says Homan and others have run into several obstacles. Finding, arresting, and detaining migrants is expensive and time-consuming, and the Department of Homeland Security has long said it's short on resources. There's also been a recent push in immigrant communities for undocumented people to keep a low profile and avoid authorities.

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126.928 - 131.632 Tracy Mumford

Amid these challenges, Zolan says the administration is discussing new tactics.

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132.212 - 159.044 Zolan Kanno-Youngs

We've discovered what some of these proposals are. DHS has gone to the IRS and asked them to turn over addresses of hundreds of thousands of people it wants to deport. At this point, it does not seem the IRS has agreed to that request. And then also the administration is considering reinstating the practice of detaining immigrant families.

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159.665 - 181.84 Zolan Kanno-Youngs

That's a tactic that came under fire because of concerns around detaining particularly immigrant children and the conditions of some of those facilities. All of these are measures not just to ramp up deportations, but in some case, create an environment that's so uncomfortable that immigrants decide to self-deport.

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182.7 - 190.982 Zolan Kanno-Youngs

And it's also a sign of sort of a sense of urgency, the sense of, you know, some might even say desperation on this administration to get these numbers up.

195.082 - 197.203 Tracy Mumford

Now, three other updates on the Trump administration.

Chapter 4: How is the Trump administration responding to tariff concerns from automakers?

197.912 - 202.935 Automaker Representative

They requested the call, they made the ask, and the president is happy to do it. It's a one-month exemption.

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203.335 - 226.327 Tracy Mumford

Just a day after President Trump's sweeping tariffs against Canada and Mexico kicked in, he gave automakers a one-month reprieve. The temporary exemption to the 25% surcharge came after the heads of GM, Ford, and Stellantis all got on the phone with Trump and told him that the new tariffs would effectively erase all of their company's profits.

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Chapter 5: What was the Supreme Court's recent decision on Trump's foreign aid freeze?

228.976 - 248.169 Tracy Mumford

Also yesterday, the Supreme Court, in a 5-4 vote, blocked Trump's effort to freeze $2 billion in foreign aid. The narrow decision suggests that the court may be more skeptical of Trump's attempts to reshape the government than some expected, considering its conservative majority. It's less clear what will happen to the aid itself.

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248.709 - 255.414 Tracy Mumford

The court sent the issue back down to a district court, which will hold a hearing today about how much of the funding needs to start flowing again.

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258.536 - 263.057 Government Official

And... The federal government does not exist to employ people. It exists to serve people.

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263.377 - 269.379 Tracy Mumford

More federal workers are set to lose their jobs as the Trump administration's firing spree continues.

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Chapter 6: What are the implications of workforce changes in the federal government?

269.659 - 272.2 Government Official

We'll be making major changes, so get used to it.

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272.46 - 305.075 Tracy Mumford

The Department of Veterans Affairs says it's planning to reduce its workforce by 80,000 people. Democratic lawmakers and some of their Republican colleagues are warning that could force cutbacks to VA services. Overall, the administration's mass layoffs have disproportionately affected veterans, who make up 30 percent of civil service employees. In the Middle East, the U.S.

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305.115 - 327.682 Tracy Mumford

has broken with its own longstanding policy and held talks directly with Hamas to discuss the release of hostages from Gaza. For decades, American officials had refused to engage directly with groups that the government labeled terrorist organizations. But this week, a representative from the White House has been quietly meeting, face-to-face, with Hamas members in Qatar.

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328.343 - 358.347 Tracy Mumford

They've been negotiating the release of five Israeli-Americans, only one of whom is still believed to be alive. It's not clear whether the talks have been successful, or what they'll mean for the ongoing discussions between Hamas and Israel about extending the ceasefire. In American education, there's been a longtime rallying cry. College for all. The idea that everyone should get a degree.

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359.107 - 377.099 Tracy Mumford

Schools, educators, and politicians from both sides of the aisle pushed it. Billions of dollars were funneled into the effort. It was driven in part by data that shows people with bachelor's degrees have a higher median salary than those with just a high school diploma. But 40% of those who start college never finish.

377.679 - 387.186 Tracy Mumford

And over the years, concerns about those dropout rates and about ballooning student debt and a changing job market have tempered the view that college is the only path.

387.666 - 398.573 Automaker Representative

I wanted to see how this shift is actually playing out. So I visited schools that are really focused on expanding the options they talk about and prepare students for beyond four-year colleges.

399.053 - 409.36 Tracy Mumford

Dana Goldstein covers education for The Times. She went to schools that had once been focused on getting as many of their students into college as possible and have since changed their approach.

410.161 - 431.075 Automaker Representative

Now there's a lot more research on careers. So, for example, students will choose three career options that interest them and they will research what is the educational path to get there. How many jobs are actually available? Is this a growing or a shrinking field? And students are encouraged to look into jobs that might not require four years of college.

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