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Best of the Program | Guests: Sen. Mike Lee & Vivek Ramaswamy | 2/26/25
Wed, 26 Feb 2025
Glenn reacts to radical leftist Washington Democrat Rep. Pramila Jayapal's recent meltdown about President Trump cracking down on illegal immigration. "If we don't have this labor, our way of life will crumble." Where have you heard that argument used before? The Left's view on immigration is exploitation masked by progressive "compassion." Former presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy joins to discuss his campaign for Ohio governor and the policies he plans to implement. Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) joins to discuss why we must pass the REINS Act. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is Glenn Beck's view on immigration and labor?
Are we on the wrong side of deportations? Representative Jayapal from Seattle. Normally, I don't agree with her, but she makes a case that's very appealing to keep our slaves. I mean, our undocumented workers. Also, Vivek Ramaswamy, he's now running for governor of Ohio. We talked to him about that and the future. What does the future look like with AI and how do states prepare?
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You know, I heard something yesterday that I wanted to share with you because I thought, you know, I'm from Seattle. Representative Jayapal is from Seattle. She can't be totally bat crap crazy, right? Maybe, maybe I just haven't thought of things yet. in the correct fashion. So here's what she said yesterday.
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Chapter 2: Why does Glenn Beck criticize Representative Jayapal's stance?
We can't let them deport the millions of families across this country who have been doing the work that keeps our economy going every day. We can't let them scapegoat and criminalize immigrants who contribute, who are our neighbors, our friends, our churchgoers. If you look at the food that's on your table, think about who picked it. If you look at your homes, think about who built them.
Oh, my God. If you look at your vulnerable elders and your kids, think about who's taking care of them.
Who's caring for them? Boy, you know, I heard that case, and that just struck right to my heart. You know, I thought to myself, my gosh, maybe we're wrong. She could be correct. Let's look at her side of the argument. I mean, just for a minute. I don't expect you to change, but I want you to listen with compassion.
You sons of... You people who just don't... You just hate people of other colors for no apparent reason. That's the only reason why you want these illegals, as you might call them, out. Have some compassion, man.
So let me just, I want you to, unless you're driving, close your eyes for just a minute, and I want you to imagine a twilight world, shadowed and stilled, where the hum of life is faded to a whisper. Picture the sprawling farmland, its fields once ablaze with golden wheat and beautiful verdant rows of produce. Just, it's a painting. Except now it's desolate.
Stocks are brittle, fruit rotting where it falls on the ground. Zoom closer in. A construction site. Skeletal beams rising like bones of some forgotten beast abandoned mid-creation. A restaurant. A restaurant. There, on Main Street, in your own hometown, its windows dark, its tables bare. The aroma simmering spices replaced now just by the dust of neglect.
Oh, you might say, I'm finding that hard to imagine. But it is the precipice which we teeter upon when we contemplate casting out the undocumented souls who breathe life into our nation's veins. Let's really look at her case. These workers, vilified, yet so rarely beheld, are the unseen architects of our own prosperity. Yes. Consider the ledger here of reality.
Over 70% of those who tend our fields are foreign born. And of that number, nearly half lack the papers we demand. They're not peripheral. They're foundational. In 2023, their labor fueled an economy that extracted $128 billion in taxes from their sweat. And these are funds that they will never recover from Social Security or Medicare.
Their unemployment rate stands at 3.2%, outpacing the native-born, right? You might say, well, that's not really good. That means jobs aren't... No! They're just willing to work. These are not the idle... They are the relentless, filling the chasms in our agriculture and construction and hospitality.
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Chapter 3: How does Glenn Beck compare historical labor exploitation to today's immigration?
These jobs are theirs because no one else will do these jobs. And the data concurs. In states like Texas and Florida, native-born workers shun the fields, leaving 80% of crop labor to the immigrants, documented or undocumented. They don't displace. They sustain. quote, without this labor, our way of life will crumble. Quote, this is a necessary good. Look where they came from.
They're better off in our fields and in the shadows than where they were when they came here. Look at where they came from. Gee, is there an echo in here? Maybe it's just the ghost of arguments past that I hear. I'm not sure, but it seemed without this labor, we will starve. Our way of life will collapse. This is a necessary good. It's necessary for us and good for them.
Look at where they came from. They're better off in our fields than where they came from. The prosperity of the superior depends on the toil of the inferior. Oh, wait a minute. I have heard these phrases before. Seems as though they've just been rinsed out and repurposed. Without this labor, our way of life crumbles. That's a mirror, gang. The words aren't new.
They're borrowed from a time when men in frock coats deemed human bondage a necessary good. Because if we don't have these slaves in the field, our very way of life will crumble. You won't be able to afford any products. It's a pillar of economic order. James Henry Hammond, 1858. In all social systems, there must be a class to perform the drudgery, freeing the refined for higher purposes.
Wow, that almost sounds like Harari, doesn't it, from the World Economic Forum? There will be a permanent underclass of useless people who just need to keep busy doing stuff. Oh my gosh, the compassion. You're right. He's speaking right from the heart. John Calhoun, 1837. It's a positive good. It's good for them and it's good for us.
It's an institution that if we don't have it, civilization falters, end quote. Then it was cotton and tobacco. Now it's lettuce and drywall. But it's the same damn thing. Then it was chains. Now it's fear. The fear of ice raids. Fractured families. A life uprooted. It's still fear, isn't it? Both rest on the same calculus.
look, they're going to have to do this because it's good for the rest of us. All we've done is we've polished the rhetoric. We've swapped shackles for shadows, but it's exactly the same. Other than that, an underclass, indispensable, yet discarded. But it's vital. Although we can't really give them dignity. I mean, they got to live in the shadows here. Is the left this stupid?
Do they really think we don't see the parallels here? Are they so naive to think that a costume change can absolve us? Why is it so many people just swallow this? Why do we let our politicians, and I mean this literally, the heirs to the same voices of the 19th century that were defending slavery, those heirs, why do we listen to them? This isn't mercy.
It's cowardice masked as practicality, masked again as compassion. There's no compassion in the shadows. The left joins the chorus. This is exploitation, all just dressed in progressive crap. as if calling it essential washes the stain clean, but it doesn't.
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Chapter 4: What solutions does Glenn Beck propose for immigration issues?
1860.
You're walking around going, I don't know. I mean, this cotton, this shirt, it's fantastic. It breathes. I mean, how are we going to get all that cotton picked in the field if we don't have slaves? You know, this is necessary. Our whole society collapses without the slave. You really would have been on the other side back then. And yet somehow or another, you're not on that side now.
My guess is you would have been sitting someplace in maybe in Charleston in a parlor sipping tea. Why? I just don't understand why all these people don't understand why we need to have these slaves. I mean, they're really not good for much else. They're not really like us. I mean, they can make my tea and wash my dishes and pick the cotton in the fields and grow our food.
I'm going to have my son do that? I don't think so. I think you would have been sitting in the parlor out front having a nice cool iced tea. This is a house built on sand. Its contradictions are almost hysterical if it didn't involve, I don't know, real people. But just remember this. History doesn't forgive repetition. It condemns it. We've read this script before.
Its ending is pretty ugly, but it's not inevitable. We can rewrite it. We can make it easier for the hard worker to come here legally. We can invest in machines to lighten the load. We can demand a system where no one's humanity is a bargaining chip for lower prices. That's not charity. That's justice. But equal justice, not social justice.
You know, everything in the fields, it doesn't grow in shadow. It only grows in sunlight. You want to end corruption? Here's a place we could start. Because I can't believe how loud the echo of history is getting. I'm just, you know, I say this all the time. It's going to be interesting to see how all this works out.
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Chapter 5: What is Senator Mike Lee's perspective on the REINS Act?
Secondly, you have to present that to the president, who can then sign it, veto it, or acquiesce to it. Now, that should be simple, right? Because Article I, Sections 1 and 7 make that clear. And yet, for the last 85 years or so, Congress has been in this death spiral of delegating its lawmaking powers.
In short, we will say things like, well, we shall have good law in Area X, and we hereby delegate to Agency Y the power to make good law in that area. That's nonsense. That makes the work easier for members of Congress, and it insulates members of Congress from political accountability in all the wrong ways.
But even more, does it not violate my right to representation? No taxation without representation.
100% because these people who make most of your laws measured by weight, volume, regulatory compliance costs, you name it, are now made by men and women, not of our own choosing. This is a real problem. Remember what Madison said in Federalist 62? Of course I do. He said in effect, he said, it'll be of little avail to the American people that their laws may be written by men of their own choosing.
If those laws be so voluminous, complex, and ever-changing, they can't know from one day to the next what the law says and what it requires. We don't live in that dystopian nightmare. That's exactly what I remember. 100,000 pages a year is what these bureaucratic pinheads put out every year. And not only are they so ever-changing, you can't know what the law says from one day to the next.
They're not even written by men and women of our own choosing. This is tyranny of the sort that would have made King George III blush with envy. These guys are tyrants, and we've got to take it back. It is Congress's fault. Congress must fix that. Congress may fix it and must fix it by passing the range act.
Okay. So give me four things that these four things that are now in the rains act, it includes, uh, the new defense for individuals, which means, uh, yeah.
Okay. So the affirmative defense for individuals, if you are sued, remember these laws put out by the beer credit print heads, if you violate them, they can put you in prison. They can find you millions of dollars. They can shut down your business.
The new provision of the RAINS Act that I inserted last year would allow an individual who had one of these enforced against him or her to raise as an affirmative defense, hey, I wasn't on notice. You have to be adequately placed on notice. It's one of the hallmark characteristics of due process. You're placed adequately on notice as to what your obligation is.
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Chapter 6: How could the REINS Act impact U.S. governance?
But unbeknownst to them, some bureaucratic pinhead had designated that a wetland area, even though it didn't have any visible wetland characteristics, and they went to prison for it. This is exactly the kind of thing the RAINS Act would protect you from.
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Vivek Ramaswamy, the Ohio gubernatorial candidate, Strive asset manager, co-founder. Also, I would say the co-founder or co-designer of Doge and a good friend of the program. Vivek, how are you? Good to talk to you, Glenn. How you been? Really good. Really good. So I got a lot to talk to you about. First of all, why do you want to be the governor of Ohio?
Well, look, I think that Donald Trump is doing a great job as U.S. president, but that means that a lot of federal programs are going to come down from Washington, D.C., from education to health care, back to the states and to the people where they belong. That's one of the things I saw in my early effort in helping get Doge off the ground is the same thing.
Federalism is the way forward to our golden age, and that is going to require strong governors to actually step up and do their job in leading and managing education, for example, in the right way. And so I was born and raised in Ohio. It's where I'm raising my two sons today.
I think it's one of the better states in the Midwest, but I want to lead Ohio to be the top state in the country to raise a young family, to grow a business. and to live the American dream that I have. That's why I'm in it. Yeah.
I mean, he's, I don't know. I mean, it's kind of like conservative porn here. He's talking about returning the power to the states and cutting all those federal programs. Oh, yeah. So, Vague, the way the government is going, I mean, I hope that Doge actually does the job and I hope we finish the job here. We've got so much we have to cut.
I mean, trillions of dollars we have to cut and return that power to the state. Everybody's saying this is going to be chaos. As the governor of Ohio, how do you prepare for what is coming so it's not chaos? What has to be done?
I have to admit, I think the job is going to be far easier for me at the state level than it is doing it at the federal level, which is a gargantuan project. But I do think that giving taxpayers the transparency, first of all, how their money is being spent, fixing the regulatory state, all that's required. At the level of Ohio, I think this is actually –
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