The David Pakman Show
10/3/25: Trump is getting ignored as pollsters drop brutal warning
03 Oct 2025
-- On the Show: -- Governors Josh Shapiro, Gavin Newsom, Kathy Hochul, and J.B. Pritzker defy Donald Trump on healthcare, climate, abortion, and immigration -- Eric Trump repeatedly blames everything on an undefined 'they' during a rambling viral video -- David cancels an appearance on Jubilee’s Surrounded citing safety, editing concerns, and doubts about debate culture -- Some Democrats are failing to connect with voters, while Zoran Mamdani excites supporters -- Donald Trump’s tariffs, bailouts, and trade wars raise everyday costs for Americans and act as a hidden tax -- A new poll shows nearly half of swing-district voters support impeaching Trump less than a year into his second term -- The Friday Feedback segment -- On the Bonus Show: Right-wing reactions to the government shutdown, right-wing reactions to Bad Bunny being announced as the Super Bowl halftime performer, and much more... 🛡️ Incogni lets you control your personal data! Get 60% off their annual plan: http://incogni.com/pakman 👩❤️👨 Try the Paired App FREE for 7 days and get 25% OFF at https://paired.com/pakman ⚠️ Ground News: Get 40% OFF their unlimited access Vantage plan at https://ground.news/pakman -- Become a Member: https://davidpakman.com/membership -- Subscribe to our (FREE) Substack newsletter: https://davidpakman.substack.com -- Get David's Books: https://davidpakman.com/echo -- TDPS Subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/thedavidpakmanshow -- David on Bluesky: https://davidpakman.com/bluesky -- David on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow (00:00) Governors defy Trump on key issues (07:09) Eric Trump’s “they” rant goes viral (14:32) Jubilee debate appearance canceled (22:05) Democrats struggle with messaging (31:29) Trump’s tariffs hit Americans’ wallets (35:12) Poll shows impeachment support rising (40:05) Friday Feedback
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The governors are increasingly ignoring Donald Trump. I love it. This is a form of resistance that makes a lot of sense and has the potential to have a huge impact. I want to talk about it with you. Trump's back in the White House, but there are governors across the country that are starting to act like he's really not. The latest example comes from Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro.
Josh Shapiro makes it very clear he is not going to take orders from Washington when it comes to issues of health care, like, for example, Donald Trump's secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Junior. Now, you might be asking yourself, what about the federal supremacy clause? Isn't it the law? that the federal government decides and supersedes state law?
And the answer is sometimes, but only on some issues. So we're going to delve into that because that is really at the core of this. But first, let's listen to what Governor Josh Shapiro had to say about this making a lot of sense, folks.
That could happen.
Yeah, absolutely. Well, RFK Jr. doesn't run health care here in Pennsylvania. Dr. Bogan does as the health secretary. I would like nothing more than to have a good working relationship with the federal government where they relied on facts and science. But in the absence of that, we're able to set our own rules and regulations and laws here in the Commonwealth.
The 10th Amendment of the US Constitution allows us to do that. So I'm exercising my authority as governor These secretaries are utilizing the authority they have that comes from the people of Pennsylvania. And so we are not going to let those who do not believe in science, those who instead push conspiracy theories, dictate health care here in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
There are a lot of other governors that are going in the same direction and they are saying we're just not going to listen to the federal government. California Governor Gavin Newsom has said California is going to keep their emission standards. They're going to keep their climate rules. It doesn't matter if Trump rips up the federal protections. California doesn't care.
They're going to keep doing their thing. New York Governor Kathy Hochul has said no matter what the federal government does, we're going to keep doing our gun safety laws. We're going to protect access to abortion. It doesn't matter what Donald Trump says or does. You go to Illinois. Governor J.B.
Pritzker is preparing to shield immigrants from Donald Trump's deportation push and has already done so to some degree. So this is now becoming a pattern which is blue state governors saying we don't care, Donny boy, on health care, on climate, on civil rights. We're going to go our own way. Trump may be president. He doesn't control the states.
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