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PTFO - We Fact-Checked Stephen A.'s LeBron and Kobe Story — and Polled 1,000+ Voters on His Presidential Campaign
Fri, 04 Apr 2025
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Chapter 1: Did LeBron attend Kobe's memorial service?
Chapter 2: What claims did Stephen A. Smith make about LeBron and Kobe?
Had she had more time?
Yeah. Because I also feel like that's the one weird thing that when we're looking at this, we're looking at it with an asterisk of, okay, yeah, you ran a shortened campaign and still it was close in the popular vote. For sure.
For sure. Joe Biden couldn't talk at all.
Right.
Literally couldn't speak. So that wasn't great. Hillary, not exactly a dynamic talker, really. We'll put it back to my people, Jeb. And I love Jeb, like, personally. You put the exclamation point there. I did. I didn't, actually. But, you know, I emotionally put it in there.
Howard Dean did it.
Jeb! But, like, he was a terrible talker. And, you know, I do think we convince ourselves because there's this thing that, like, we want to believe it's about more than that. You know, we want to think, we want to, you know... pull people's higher angels, think about people's better angels, and think about all the serious problems that the country faces, and we need a person of depth.
And it's kind of like, I don't think the people really want a person of depth unless they're a good talker. Maybe we just need to accept that talking is a pretty key part of the job, and that the Democrats should probably orient themselves to finding somebody who's really, really good at talking, and then all the other skills are kind of secondary.
Yeah, I mean, I will see that, that yes, there is an element of it that feels like, as president, you are America's spokesmodel. And so with that in mind... America's next top spokesmodel? Yeah, you are Vanna White just turning the letters on democracy. And with that in mind, though, I think that's also... There is that part of it that is both domestically and internationally.
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Chapter 3: How did the community and media react to Stephen A.'s comments?
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