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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: The Cowboy Hat Made of Bacon (feat. Roy Wood Jr.)

Wed, 09 Apr 2025

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"Dan, it's like if you were on 'Celebrity Jeopardy!' and the category was 'Cuban Stuff.'" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: Where did the story of tequila begin?

00:01 - 00:09 Unidentified

Now's a good time to remember where tequila's story truly began. In 1795, Cuervo invented tequila. Cuervo. What are you doing here?

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00:09 - 00:11 Dan Le Batard

Cuervo. Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.

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00:29 - 00:29 Dan Le Batard

Cuervo.

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00:34 - 00:34 Roy

Cuervo.

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00:00 - 00:00 Unidentified

This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast.

Chapter 2: What is Roy Wood Jr.'s latest project?

00:43 - 01:04 Dan Le Batard

This man is always doing a lot of exceptional work. Lonely Flowers is his special. It's on Hulu. It's a hit. You should watch it. A lot of people are saying it's perfect, that he and Bill Burr have the best comedy specials going at the moment. He also has a fun show, a news show, Have I Got News For You, on CNN and Max.

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01:05 - 01:29 Dan Le Batard

And now he's doing Celebrity Jeopardy, and he's sitting courtside at a Knicks game with his idol, Tom Joyner. So there's a lot to talk to him about. He's sitting opposite a very bitter Grandpa Shaq as he just takes out everyone in the league for some reason. By just sitting across from Roy and then all of a sudden Shaq is just crucifying everybody.

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01:30 - 01:40 Dan Le Batard

So you sat there, Roy Wood Jr., across from Shaq and you thought what as he just let everyone in the league have it for some reason when you sat down opposite him.

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Chapter 3: What was Roy Wood Jr.'s experience on Shaq's podcast?

01:41 - 02:03 Roy

Here's the crazy thing about my episode on Shaq's podcast. That was the last 10 minutes of the podcast. We talked about everything but basketball for an hour. And then just at the end, hey, do you think Biggs will evolve? I'll elbow Wimby in the mouth and knock his teeth out and make him quit. And I was just like, hey, he played. I didn't. I just need to be quiet on this one.

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02:04 - 02:17 Roy

Like, I'm not sure if I completely agree, but this is not the place to disagree. I'll just put it that way. Like, you know, Shaq earned the right to take these shots. I don't know why he does it all the time. I will say that.

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02:17 - 02:26 Roy

But, you know, it was fun to sit with him in his element, but you could tell just being right across from him that he really is annoyed with the way the game is being played currently.

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02:26 - 02:33 Dan Le Batard

I think that you probably, I don't know how many times you've been around Shaq, but this happens all the time around Shaq.

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00:00 - 00:00 Roy

That was my first time meeting him.

00:00 - 00:00 Dan Le Batard

Okay, so did you do what everyone does about Shaq? Because you know going in, there's a thing you know about Shaq, that he's giant. And yet still, when people get next to him, they're like, God, he's big. Like, you know it going in and you still don't, you don't really actually know it.

00:00 - 00:00 Roy

Yeah, no, it was cool to just talk basketball with him for a second, but my question that I didn't get to in the room with him would have been like, everybody wants 90s basketball, but if you got 90s basketball without 90s referees, you're still like Shaq would be teed up and tossed before the second quarter. If you're talking about...

00:00 - 00:00 Roy

elbowing Wimby in the mouth and then taking Chet Holmgren to the hole every time. I don't know if we're going to ever be able to play like that again. I wonder if aggression to a degree has been kind of legislated out. And to everybody else's point on that podcast, these kids now, there's no benefit to being the murderous, killer, death stare college basketball player anymore.

00:00 - 00:00 Roy

That's going to mess up your NIL money. Nobody's going to let you do Experian tax app commercials. If you're the mean, growling person. So I don't know if that mentality will even exist in basketball at the lower levels in another five years.

Chapter 4: How has the transfer portal changed college basketball?

04:18 - 04:35 Dan Le Batard

I was afraid that was going to happen. I saw the little hiccup. I was afraid that was going to happen. He was coughing. As I was going to him, he was coughing, and I saw on his face that he was about to cough. He was trying to muffle the cough, and it just became clear that he was not going to win that fight.

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04:35 - 04:53 Greg Cote

I want to ask Roy that as much as it benefits the good teams, the rich get richer now because of the transfer portal. But it's been bad for the sport, I think, because it's just it's chaotic now. You had players transferring from teams that made the Sweet 16 this year during the tournament. It just seems ridiculous to me.

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04:53 - 05:14 Roy

I think I think I don't know how you salary cap it per se, but I think that there's a very good way to keep this down. I think it was Carmelo Anthony on his podcast that said two year minimums. But, you know, Mello was also talking about just take the student part out of it and just let these schools hire, basically, athletic mercenaries to play for them, to represent the school.

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05:14 - 05:36 Roy

I do think that's the eventuality of where NIL is headed in another 10 years if we don't rein it in. But the idea of locking a student in for at least two years If you transfer, I think it's something that's fair. I don't think... We're never going to go back to the old days. So this idea of Mount St. Mary's punching up and beating... Done. That stuff's gone. Mount St.

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00:00 - 00:00 Roy

Mary's got to get their money up and figure out how to sell cocaine on the side of the university. I do feel like...

00:00 - 00:00 Roy

you have to keep the money in the sport that's fair to the kids what's happening with nil is that it's all of the outside cash and all the outside influences that are changing all of this when you got kids hawking carter here's a bigger question about nil has anybody been influenced to buy anything from any of these children you've seen on tv

00:00 - 00:00 Roy

I'm not here to mess up your bag, but seeing Flage Johnson tell me I can get my credit straight, I know my credit bad, Flage. Get your money, girl. But also, you weren't going to influence me any more than the next person was to buy the thing. Nine times out of ten, it's word of mouth.

00:00 - 00:00 Roy

I think that College Hoops is going to become D1 and D2 in a sense, where you're going to have have and have nots, and that's just what you got to get used to. You just got to hope that one school has a loyal dummy who doesn't transfer because his daddy went there or something stupid.

00:00 - 00:00 Dan Le Batard

Put it on the poll, please, at Levitard Show. Does Mount St. Mary need to sell cocaine on the side to keep up in the NIL game at Levitard Show? Celebrity Jeopardy here. How do you prepare for it? How scared were you or not scared were you?

Chapter 5: How did Roy Wood Jr. prepare for Celebrity Jeopardy?

09:13 - 09:30 Roy

so you were with the strippers and you're like what is it ah so you were like no you didn't give me a chance to and it's too late you should have just said were you strip club yes or no but they don't frame the question that way they frame it in a way where your brain can't process it and then you look dumb and then strangers heckle you

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09:31 - 09:37 Dan Le Batard

I'll choke in those circumstances because you're not wrong that the pressure will get to you. You will know an answer and you will freeze up.

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09:37 - 09:58 Roy

Yeah, yeah, but it's fine. I was happy to do it. I had more fun at Jeopardy than I did Will of Fortune or Pyramid. No, I had the most fun at Jeopardy because Will of Fortune, you're just setting up the next person to win, and it's luck. You've got to hope they screw up and then you get to solve the puzzle. It's got to kind of fall in your lap.

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09:59 - 10:18 Roy

pyramid if you lose you're sitting across from the stranger who you cost 50k and they're a little mad and you know like that that i feel kind of bad about because that's not for charity that's like a regular person who needs that money. So I didn't like the pressure of that.

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00:00 - 00:00 Dan Le Batard

Is anything that you crammed for? Did any single thing, uh, help you?

00:00 - 00:00 Roy

Um, no, but in the first round, they had historically black colleges as one of the categories. Oh brother. I was licking my chops.

00:00 - 00:00 Dan Le Batard

It was Rosie Perez in White Man Can't Jump. All the questions were coming up that she started. You must have been so happy.

00:00 - 00:00 Roy

Dan, it would be like if you were on Celebrity Jeopardy and the category was Cuban stuff. Just a layup. Just, oh, my God, it was beautiful. Then the next category was chess. And all I do is play chess with my son. And I was just like, yes. I ran that damn, I ran those two categories back to back. Start doubling and tripling down in double jeopardy. And that's how I won, man.

00:00 - 00:00 Roy

Because I went to a black college. Both of my parents graduated from a black college. If I don't get these questions right, I have to leave the black race immediately.

Chapter 6: What was the controversy over Amber Ruffin's Correspondents' Dinner appearance?

14:37 - 14:48 Dan Le Batard

But you hosted that event, though. So what was your level of disappointment and her level of disappointment? Because, you know, what a that that event's a giant event for a comedian.

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14:48 - 15:06 Roy

Yeah, but keep in mind, I did the event under Biden, so that was a little bit easier in terms of, is this a room that's ready to laugh and can you attack both sides? It's like, yeah, I could. I mean, there were still kids in cages, but other than that, you can still find the laughs around the chaos.

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15:06 - 15:25 Roy

and that administration, there was... It's a room where, at best, you only go and get half the room at any given time because the other half can't laugh because they don't think you're funny or they're sitting with their boss that you made the joke about. So it's already a weird room to begin with. And I think, also,

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15:26 - 15:41 Roy

I think part of why the correspondence dinner works is because Republicans and elected officials all show up from both sides. So also keep in mind, when Amber stepped out, when they rescinded the offer from Amber, Trump was talking about doing his own competing event the same night.

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00:00 - 00:00 Roy

So if you have no Republicans in the room and you have someone on stage that's only bashing Republicans, then they're going to be able to flip and use that politically to do whatever they want to, you know, control the narrative about what the media, the messaging in media. You know, it's a slippery thing, man. So how do you do both sides if both sides aren't even in the room?

00:00 - 00:00 Roy

You know, that kind of removes the roast. The roast element of it requires you to be here because I have to do this to your face.

00:00 - 00:00 Dan Le Batard

Put us next to you at the Knicks game where you're courtside with your idol, Tom Joyner, or one of your idols. What was happening here? Where does this rank in terms of honors and privileges that you have gotten as a perk in your career?

00:00 - 00:00 Roy

I grew up on the school bus listening to the Tom Joyner morning show and, you know,

00:00 - 00:00 Roy

for what tom joiner did over his 30 years in syndicated radio just taking money from his foundation putting kids through college i think when he retired in 2016 2017 i think the number was like 30 or 40 000 like you could take every person that received money for college from tom joiner and fill a professional sports stadium with like

Chapter 7: What was it like for Roy Wood Jr. to sit courtside with Tom Joyner?

21:50 - 22:09 Roy

Let's wait until next time. I will say that I like what the Cubs have been doing in spite of their record. There are a couple games above 500. It's a little early, but they're third in the league in runs scored per average right now. And I think that they're doing that without the torpedo bats. Like, if I'm not mistaken, the Cubs, yeah, there we go. The Cubs got 84 runs.

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22:10 - 22:22 Roy

Most runs scored, not average. Most runs scored. Yankees 78, Cardinals 66. So the Cubs are hitting the ball good. You just need the pitching to come together a little bit. So just put your money on them right now.

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22:22 - 22:46 Dan Le Batard

All right. So it'll have to wait until next time, but you gave us a little sweetener you gave us. Lonely Flowers is streaming now on Hulu. Have I Got News for you. You should watch it. It's CNN and Max. It's streaming the next day on Max after it's on CNN. You should go to RoyWoodJr.com for his latest tour dates and information. Thank you, sir. It's always good seeing you.

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22:47 - 22:47 Roy

Love y'all.

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00:00 - 00:00 Dan Le Batard

Thank you, Roy.

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Chapter 8: How did society react to Tracy Morgan's courtside incident?

26:35 - 26:41 Unidentified

That kind of swing, that kind of thing. This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugats.

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26:53 - 27:19 Dan Le Batard

I want to get to a couple of sounds here real quick. I am told that we have a gas bag of the week, and I'm very excited for the return of gas bag of the week. And it needs some context here, Stugatz, because you love your New York sports radio. And Jameis Winston did a fairly benign thing of thanking Stugatz. Cleveland for his time there.

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27:19 - 27:49 Unidentified

So the Giants currently have Russell Wilson and Jameis on their roster. And Jameis, weeks after being signed with the Giants, decided, I'm going to thank Cleveland. He wrote a nice letter. The part that people got a little up in arms about, he says, a harmless paragraph. Is it benign?

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27:49 - 27:49 Unidentified

Really?

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00:00 - 00:00 Unidentified

Or is it disrespecting NFL history? There's one snow game. Giants radio. I think it's Evan and Tiki in New York. They have a producer, Sean Marash. They let the producers talk. That's crazy. Sean Marash, a producer for that show, was not happy with Jameis Winston for that letter.

00:00 - 00:00 Unidentified

If you like the idea that Jameis Winston makes you laugh, that's all good and plenty. Jameis Winston stinks, okay? And I've been adamant about this. The idea that now you know the situation. He could have penned this letter to Cleveland for the Yankees. The Giants even signed Russell Wilson. He's so good, man. He puts it in there because he knows anybody reading that is good.

00:00 - 00:00 Unidentified

There's going to be light bulbs that go off in people's heads that he beat Russell Wilson head-to-head, all while lying and calling it the most iconic game. So now here we go. You already start to divide a fan base a little bit. And like you said, what was the lead yesterday?

00:00 - 00:00 Unidentified

The lead on this show yesterday was Evan Roberts turning to Tiki Barber saying, is there a chance a locker room rallies around Jameis Winston? This guy is an unintentional cancer. Cut him today. Oh, come on. Caught him today. He's not better than Russell Wilson. The team should be taking a quarterback in the draft. And Tommy DeVito still exists. Why is he here?

00:00 - 00:00 Unidentified

He's here to throw interceptions and God rescues from pick sixes. I'm glad everybody thinks the Giants can be the chuckle hut. I'm tired of being a joke. And Jameis Winston is causing this team to be more of a goddamn joke.

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