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The Daily

Zohran Mamdani Explains His Rise

16 Oct 2025

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Assemblyman Zohran Mamdani’s come-from-behind victory in this summer’s Democratic primary for New York City mayor is already the stuff of political legend. But in many ways, the most intriguing phase of his campaign has been the period since then, as he has labored, painstakingly, to win over his skeptics. How, exactly, would a 33-year-old member of the Democratic Socialists of America, with little management experience and a record of polarizing pronouncements, win over enough voters to prevail in the general election?So far, the polls suggest he’s doing just that.And so, a few days ago, “The Daily” sat down Mr. Mamdani for an extended conversation about his campaign, the forces and ideas that have animated it and his plans, if elected on Nov. 4, to deliver on his campaign promises and contend with a Republican president who has promised to treat him as an enemy from his first day in office.Guest: Zohran Mamdani, the Democratic candidate for mayor of New York City.Background reading: Inside the improbable, audacious and (so far) unstoppable rise of Zohran Mamdani.Photo: Vincent Alban/The New York TimesFor more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

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2.883 - 32.738 Michael Barbaro (host)

Who has already signed up to Canvas? So what I am staring at is a line of people waiting to get inside Zoran Mamdani's campaign rally here in Washington Heights. It's now 6 p.m. on Monday night, October 13th. It's hard to explain just how big this line is. It literally spans three and a half blocks, and it is dense. And we are going to talk to people in this line and inside this rally

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33.072 - 50.302 Michael Barbaro (host)

about what it is Mamdani means to them. Let's go. We're from the show called The Daily. Oh, hello. Hi. And we're just going to ask people, in a word, what Mamdani means to you, what he represents. In one word?

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51.364 - 51.644 The Daily announcer / outro voice

Yeah, why not?

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51.704 - 53.027 Michael Barbaro (host)

Compassion. Honest person.

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53.247 - 60.158 Audience member (rally attendee)

He's real. He's brown and I'm brown. It's that simple. That simple, yeah. Hope. Hope. My first choice would be hope and then the future.

60.478 - 64.024 Zohran Mamdani (guest)

I think he is a fresh and actual change in the party.

64.004 - 87.053 Audience member (rally attendee)

I'm 16 years old, and from what I've heard, no, I can't. But I've been volunteering under Zoran, and apparently, according to adults, it's really rare to be happy or excited about a politician. So, you know, this is kind of a once-in-a-lifetime thing. I'm here because actually my son turned me to Thorheim. I didn't know anything about him. I was talking to him one day.

87.073 - 105.3 Audience member (rally attendee)

I said, you know, I may just vote for Cuomo because I thought it was Cuomo and Adam. Yeah. He's like, you didn't hear about Thorheim? And I said, no. He sent me a couple of videos and I like what he had to offer. So much so that you're here at his rally. And I've been canvassing for him actually the past three weeks, so...

105.415 - 111.123 Unknown

We're also very excited about his position about Palestine and what's going on.

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